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Hey guys remember the pile of wasted potential that was Lilith's Throne? Here's a spiritual successor made by someone else that is basically the same game, but with better writing and more cohesive gameplay. I wanted to post it in the LT thread but that's dead and gone, so if anyone wants a LT-like experience without the drama and lack of updates this is an alternative.

In terms of story it's basically the same premise as LT, fantasy, monstergirls, random isekai MC powerup, and so on. You are a mook who obtains ownership of a dungeon in a fantasy-modern world, and you have to try to stay alive while everyone tries to kill you because the dungeon had a big reputation in the past.

Pros:
>tight story, no waffling around like in LT
>characters are varied and much more tolerable
>dev isn't as much of a cunt
>doesn't take itself super seriously so the humour is pretty good
>harem, no NTR
>dressup
>you can have children

Cons:
<art is a little janky
<characters are flat outside of their introduction, not much new to do with them after you recruit them
<UI can be confusing and tedious
<plays a lot like a beta, gameplay has a lot of redundancy

Neutral:
>combat is weird, divided into overworld battles and traditional turn based "sex battles"
>a lot of clothing options and drops, way too many in fact, and drops never despawn so your maps will forever be littered unless you pick them up
>plenty of sex, male, female, and some things inbetween

https://nranchs.itch.io/rogschard-lords-and-loyalty
Is the skip function still useless, having shit happen regardless?
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>>62810
Nah, every sexual encounter in the game that the PC encounters can be skipped and nothing happens.
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>characters are flat outside of their introduction
So, literally another throne.
this is even worse than lilith's throne because all male characters are gay and it feels like all women want to peg you
also the sex mechanic is garbage
>>62818
>it feels like all women want to peg you
Feels like the Monster Girl Quest or Violated Hero series. Comes with the territory, I guess.
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>>62818
>>62826
So it's a femdom game?
Meh, femdom is for closet homos, bottom bitches
>>62814
Last I played it still acted like shit did. Don't want the bug girl to fill you with eggs? SKip it. The event won't happen, but she'll still act like you got them eggs, iirc
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Some questions. Does it have loli/shota content, can you fuck your kids, and is it really like >>62818 says?
>it feels like all women want to peg you
At least tell me you can avoid it and dominate them instead, I can't stand games where the MC is a pushover.
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>>62809 (OP) 
It still looks like absolute trash though
also
>patreon
So its basically no fun allowed
>>62809 (OP) 
>>no harem
>he thinks this is a pro
Are you a faggot by any chance?
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>>62845
of course it doesn't have loli, it's a furry faggot game
shota on the otherhand, maybe. it has so many faggot pieces of shit (known as "femboys") that maybe one is a closer to a real boy
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>>62847
>harem, no NTR
Are you Illiterate by any chance?
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bait detected
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>>62862
Oh they got this all wrong, let me fix that
<harem? no, NTR!
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>>62866
So the game -doesn't- work on a harem basis?
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>>62874
The game assumes that you are both genders
at all times
The game knows this because it knows where it isn't
>>62818
All characters in the game are bi, you can fuck or get fucked by whoever you want.

>>62843
In the most recent ver that doesn't happen. Saying no means nothing happens at all.

>>62874
That anon is just shitposting, it's basically a harem in the sense that you, as the guildmaster, are entitled to fuck everyone in your guild as you please.
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>game starts character as "Tint 2" in creation
>check Tint 1
>it's Indian
>>62859
This game sounds terrible
>>62881
Don't lie to me anon, the male dog co-worker is only intrested in fucking you
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>>62991
Well yeah, but I'm pretty sure that if you play as a female that doggo is going to fuck you too.
recently i played "The Fixer", it's probably the best little western game that came out in a while 
please recommend some more, i get very bored at work
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>>63018
oh and like always they somehow made it worse by updating it with bloat like traits
"Dear Reader

Part of the appeal of this work is the fantasy of being chased by nefarious monsters. Ones who want you so bad they would construct devious plots and shady schemes to spend the night with you. The strange and wondrous creatures in this story will occasionally neglect to establish a level of consent that would be appropriate in real life. But, the player always has the option to refuse the other character's advances when push comes to shove. I hope you can enjoy this work for what it is, a piece of indulgent fiction, a story about the things we cannot experience in reality.

Once you step away from this game, please remember to treat your fellow humans with the utmost decency and respect. Always ask other people for full consent before engaging in any form of sexualized speech or actions. Love other people in all their glorious forms, sizes, ethnicities, sexualities, and gender expressions. May the future be safe, diverse, and kind."

Yeah, if this bullshit is in your game I'm not playing it
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>>63024
It is not bullshit to treat your fellow human with respect and to have consent before sex, motherfucker.
Now suck Tyrone's dick, undiverse bigot.
>>63030
This. The sad part is that people need that reminder, because some faggots can't distinguish reality from fiction.
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>>62809 (OP) 
Wait, you play as a girl?
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>>63034
playing as a girl in this game is less gay than playing as a guy, because all characters want to fuck you in the ass
in fact the quest you get from the first male character you encounter is to help him get a twink femboy to fuck
the game is quite literally hot garbage
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>>63039
If you played a little longer you'd realize that 90% of the characters you encounter you can choose who gets to fuck who. The one advantage of playing a female character is that you can get preggo. 

That said it's definitely geared towards female/feminized characters. Even your PC sprite reflects that.
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>>63030
Even if sex without your nebulous "consent" mumbo-jumbo was disrespectful, what does disrespecting a woman have to do with people?
>>63041
nope, it's geared towards being a femboy, reflected how changing genders to be a woman in character creation screen requires more than 1 click 
this game is hot tranny garbage, kys
Any incest content?
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>>62809 (OP) 
I'm not sure why, but this game never really "clicked" for me the same way CoC and LT did. I'm gonna blame it on the UI.
>>63050
>patreon funded
Haha, no
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>>62809 (OP) 
Will try it out. I appreciate that you're trying to post Lilith's Throne-esque games that aren't as shit as LT, regardless of whether this is actually better or worse. Otherwise, I wouldn't even know it existed. If it's a miss this time, oh well, but the next LT-esque game might not be. 

One of the most baffling things about LT--& I was literally in the first thread posted for it on 8ch, so I'm well aware of all the shit over the years--is that they decided to turn it into what basically amounts to what I can only describe as a VN mixed with a smut novella. The dev entirely abandoned the base groundwork sex. I unironically don't get it. The OC established characters that're placed around in LT & your interactions with them could effectively exist outside the game as their own little 4, 5 or 6 page program. Could take all of them, make a HTML grid menu that gives you the name of the character and lists the tags of the fetish/s they railroad you on, and you could just click on one, the text would load, and then you could click 'Next Page' for the next scene. Only difference is that in LT, you have to e.g click 5 extra times or whatever to loiter for a bit before you can see the next page. Doesn't the point of that sort of game (when it hasn't been turned into a VN and/or book with rare CYOA parts) inherently rely on the quality & variation in the description of base generic sex? Like okay, you fuck or get fucked by the cop wolf furry, but the sex options & the descriptions you get are just the same as any random gen NPC, & again, these generic sex scenes are abandoned & have next to no variations. 
I'm just ranting for the sake of ranting, honestly. To be fair, this seems like it actually, from the start, is saying that it's a character-focused thing, although
<characters are flat outside of their introduction
Already is making me think that I'm gonna find the same issue with bland & repeating generic-menu sex. Although, even if it has no replayability in regards to chars you've already fucked before, I haven't played it, & so that still might carry me for a few nuts. 
Basically, good to know it exists at the very least, and I appreciate being informed.
This game sucks
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>>63920
Someone would do that? go on the internet and lie? Nooo
>>63041
>The one advantage of playing a female character is that you can get preggo. 
The game has MPreg content
this shit is absolute tranny garbage

why is this even here
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>>63030
Anon this is a pron gaem. Relax. There are no babes to impress here. Only fellow coomers.
Are there any console commands/cheats/whatever?
>>62809 (OP) 
>and much more tolerable
good fucking joke my guy.
I played it through because it seemed like a fun little game despite all the gay shit, the quality fell off pretty fast but still saw it through to the end and my takeaway is I wanted to execute everyone involved in the finale. everyone involved gets away with a slap on the wrist despite everything they've done. just fucking kill them. they're irredeemable pieces of shit and the pussy mc goes haha no worries.
The UX is ass I can't get into it no matter how many times I try
This is shit. Like someone saw CoC and decided the world needed a shounen version with 1% of the content
>>62809 (OP) 
>actually made it to 1.0
>dev appears to have learned something and to be coding the sequel in a saner fashion
Neat.
With that said, both this game and the sequel don't have much in common with LT, they're CoC-lites.
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