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The embassy for /robowaifu/, the board of developing IRL robowives
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My project, the Galatea Multipurpose Companion Maid Robot. It is designed to be an IRL robo-maid girl. Local AI means you can talk with her, and she has actual practical uses. She's also very customizable, you can choose the color, dress, head, hair, and even which AI you use.
I intentionally designed her to be easy to build with the instructions.
I intend this to be the Model T of humanoid robots and robotic companions, while it is not the most complex, it is easy to mass produce and cheap. She's basically an open-source humanoid robot platform that's affordable for most hobbyists, with near-infinite possibilities and uses.
https://greertech.neocities.org/Galatea%20v3.0

Current version as of this post is version 3.0.8
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Hello /mecha/ , welcome to Trashchan! We're all very happy to see your board back on it's feet again. Please feel free to advertise your board over on /robowaifu/ -- we'd welcome community interchange between us. Cheers!
>>1012
Interesting
>>1011 (OP) 
It's interesting how a lot of people are really sympathetic to fictional androids, but have a strong gut reaction against LLMs.
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>>1019
How so, anon?
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>>1020
From what I saw, a lot of people widely sympathised with the robots in media like The Second Renaissance from the Animatrix, but when neural networks began actually taking peoples' jobs and making shitty art, said people freaked out a lot.
I think a lot of the difference is that fictional robots either actually think or ambigiously do, whereas my understanding of most artificial neural networks is that they're closer to Frieren's demons. In Frieren's world, the latter are a hyper-advanced version of folklore monsters which imitate human speech or appearance without understanding it to feed off people. Frieren demons fundamentally do not think like humans, feel human emotions (maybe outside a form of pride), or understand human language: they perceive human language and interaction as a sort of bullshitting game for getting what they want out of their prey. Said demons are difficult to talk about without anthromorphizing them too much, and their output from their training data is passably "human" enough that it fools a lot of lefty viewers into thinking they're actually just like us instead of deeply alien, hostile lifeforms.
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>>1022
I used to work for a big financial firm, around 2019 they started implementing OCR AI into their lockbox operations (local AI to do data entry for financial data). As they explained it, it is like asking for the statistically most likely answer based on the user input and the training set. The AI goes "based on my data, I am 90% sure this is the letter 'a'" and so on.  As I understand it LLMs work similarly, but instead of letters it is a statistical probability of the most likely sentence chunk (token).  The models are collections of statistical probabilities based upon the training set along with a bit of random noise so you don't get the same result every time.

You know what happened? In early 2020 the firm laid of a bunch of people.  Now in 2026 they're begging for people to come back.

As I like to say: AI is Actually Sophisticated Statistics, or ASS.  It is pretty much pretending to think, which is why lefties think it is intelligent: just like them, it just gives the most likely answer based upon what it knows.  This is assuming a raw, unmodified AI.  Of course, most of the commercial AIs want you to keep using them, so they're automated simps.

True human innovation, however, comes from the statistically unlikely.  Accidents and imperfection can discover something new.
>>1019
I think it's for several reasons

1. Competition.
It's easy to support AI when it doesn't do anything better than you. There are many times where I see basically "Council of Horses find the Model T to be dangerous and bad"

2. Legitimate concerns
AI has been misued and shoved into our lives. Like some sort of techno-rapist, they don't care about our consent when they shove it in things we don't want. Just ask any Windows 11 user. I remember the story where the cops were called because an AI camera thought a bag of chips was a gun. Plus, frankly, there is a lot of bad AI products and outputs out there. ChatGPT writing genuinely pisses me off.

3. Lack of Anthropomorphizing
Most corporate AI is bland and inhuman, and talks like a University DEI statement. It's much easier to empathize with WALL-E than ChatGPT. Anthropomorphizing is very powerful. Imagine instead of Hatsune Miku, it was a plain software called something like "Synth Voice Modulator". Most young people didn't a single shit about horse racing until the release of Umamusume Global.
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>>1052
>1. Competition.
>It's easy to support AI when it doesn't do anything better than you. There are many times where I see basically "Council of Horses find the Model T to be dangerous and bad"
I think there is a legitimate issue where AI "competes" good enough to put people out of a job (or good enough to replace a feature/product that a customer wants) but not actually good enough to be truly GOOD. As in is cheaper or more convenient for corporate sort of thing. This isn't something that's exclusive to AI by any means, it's just good old ENSHITTIFICATION. So happens that AI Enshitification is so prevalent and particularly odious and it's happened so suddenly.
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>>1053
True. I kinda mentioned that in point two, but you clearly explained it
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