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When is the last time an anime or manga prompted you to research a topic? Have you ever found that your personal reading brought additional depths out of either?
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>>115905 (OP) 
I remember trying to read a book that apparently inspired the name of one of the god hand in Berserk. Never got far in it though.
I think Trigun was at least partially why I was interested in revolvers. Rewatching it years later, now knowing the revolver anatomy I really appreciated the details in the anime (e.g. grabbing the cylinder to stop it from spinning thus preventing someone from firing it).
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>>115906
Trigun is one of my favorite-ever Ayylmao series, tbh.
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>>115907
>Ayylmao series
????
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>>115908
They're ayyleums.
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>>115905 (OP) 
I do that a fair bit, actually, though it really depends on the premise of a work and if it has clear real world relevance.

Watched Ankoku Shinwa/The Dark Myth recently. Definitely a work that requires some more knowledge of eastern mythology and religions to get the most out of than an English speaker will have (though I think I've also heard it said that it's rather obtuse even to Japanese viewers unless they've also got the knowledge to make more sense of it). Issue though is, the OVAs have enough dialogue to subtitle as is, and topics that warrant more description dense enough that on-screen translation notes would be pretty unfeasible. While I had some knowledge of certain things already, I still wound up looking up further information as it came up. Apparently ADV did include some sort of notes file on their DVD of it back in the day, but uploaded rips don't seem to bother with those, even as some sort of PDF of screenshots if they were more of a slideshow glossary than something rippable as another video file.
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>>115906
Which book was it, if you don't mind my asking?
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>>115909
Are you talking about the art style or is there some sort of ebin conspiracy lore surrounding it?
>>115912
Lol. Never watched the series? They're Aryan aliens.
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>>115912
>inspired by aliens
I think they're more like different visions of idealized humans. Anime is a secular meeting of more iconographic eastern art with western portraiture and cartooning. It shares some proportional similarities with some other iconographic art traditions (such as the enlarged eyes, and similar treatments of noses and mouth proportions), and in trying to talk about anime and 2D vs 3DPD, people intuitively reach for flat out Platonic concepts. IIRC either Socrates or Plato was a sort of eastern-western encounter as well, as somewhere in the dialogues Socrates alluded to being initiated into the Egyptian mysteries and framed the more symbolic Egyptian artwork as superior to Greek art's imitation of the 3D world. Medieval art and the Eastern iconographic tradition also grew out of Greco-Egyptian funerary art, and were themselves, you guessed it, an attempt to portray the higher "2D" reality, but as perceived by the soul of a saint.
Greys, on the other hand, appear in UFO encounter stories as weird, manipulative creeps that flatter what they hope is your modern normalfag worldview before they stick stuff up your butt. They show up in what look to normalfags like science fiction starcraft, and physically appear like superficially more advanced and rational beings: huge eyes, big heads for big brains, atrophied noses, small mouths, de-emphasised bodies in general, and no outdated evolutionary leftovers such as hair. Sometimes they'll tell you fashionable stories mixing biological, intellectual, or spiritual evolution with the oneness of all religions, or pretend to be whatever religious figure they think you'll like most, yet they also have a reputation for quickly screwing off if you start invoking divine help around them. On that note, various ufologists have also noted that a lot of the phenomena around their appearances are either highly similar or outright identical to ones reported in stories of things like fey encounters, ancient sorcerers, and monastic encounters with demons.

Even if you believe greys were completely made up by people fabricating false memories under hypnosis (as a side note, it's common knowledge that Crowley bumped into something very close to one before they began appearing to normalfags), it's noteworthy that they kind of look like a naive normalfag's idea of what an "advanced" being would be, and disguise mythological patterns under science fiction tropes. They're kind of inherently frauds and normalfag bait, if you will.
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>>115911
Ubik
https://www.nothuman.net/images/files/discussion/1/e865ccfafb682b18979e9ca5c712b8db.pdf
Its another very vague memory, but I remember not really liking Philip K Dick in general. Before him I read some classic russian sci fi books and short stories (as well as one book of dune), and in comparison he was ok, but lacked subtlety or smth. It was ages ago. Back then I thought that child killing isn't actually child killing and disliked his anti-abortion short story "pre-persons", nowadays... I'd probably still dislike it because it has subtlety of a nail bat to the face. At that point I think it's better to just write a short essay "against abortion" rather than bother with fictional metaphors that barely work in the first place. Just describing what actually happens would be more graphic, gruesome and absurd than whatever was written there. But other anti-child-killing people liked it, so I dunno. Maybe I should re-read it.

Speaking of politics and subtlety of a nail bat (or not?), but back to anime: watching Kill la Kill after learning some Japanese history made me realize just how dense that story is with references to history. But for some reason nobody seems to write about it, at least not in english. The only thing I can remember off the bat is the scene where the blind guy says "the enemy waits at Honnouji!" and everyone else cringes and says there were holding it in, trying not to say it. That one was actually subtle (for foreigners at least), because its utterly meaningless if you don't know what it's about. There was also something with the DTR robo and Dotonbori. And I think Satsuki's conquest mirrors some conquest in jap history, maybe the unification during sengoku. And there's probably way more that I forgot, and more still that I never recognized.
But this reminded me of one anime that DID make me look up something, Hyouge Mono. At some point I was watching it with a wikipedia open in other tab, checking every other character in it. And good thing I did, because it gets pretty "creative" with how it portrays the history of that era. I can't remember the name of that one guy from the anime, but after looking him, his family name survived from sengoku to like... 1900s I think. It was pretty impressive, I have to find him.
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>>115913
Vash and his brother are "plants", which the other guy calls aliens. But reading online some people say that plants were originally made by humans, and Vash and Knives were just weird offspring from them. I'd have to re-watch/re-read to see if there were any specifics about what exactly plants were. Personally I don't remember them being called aliens. But they're definitely not humans.
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>>115916
They're actually shown going in and out of their giant ayylmao spaceship.
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>>115917
Really? Where, I don't remember it.
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>>115918
Wait, are you not confusing the crashed human spaceship?
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>>115919
Its been a few years since I watched the whole thing, so yeah I could be mis-remembering it. But I still have a clear memory of it, so yeah.
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>>115920
Ubik's premise sounds neat, so it might end up being the next science fiction novel I read. The only Philip K. Dick book I've read so far was Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, and like you, enough has happened in my life since then that I'd likely have a different take on Dick's fiction if I revisited him.
Since you bring up Japanese history, are there any books on it that you'd recommend? All I know are isolated fragments that I struggle to recall in any useful way, as I used to be terrible at getting names into my head.
>Hyouge Mono
Yeah, that's definitely going onto the shortlist.
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For me it was actually somewhat inverted.  I had just finished reading this big scholarly book on the history of the Scientific Revolution.  Then along came this very well-researched manga and anime about the various philosophical and theological struggles of the time period.  I appreciated this in a way that few others could have.
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