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If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates or howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com
idlecanvas-wagmi.web.app

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi
Richard Smitheman

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life

If you got here, I just want to tell you WAGMI 💪
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Hello, I'm a noobie at drawing, I haven't really done it since middle school

I'm not good at drawing anything, and I want to start but I'm not sure where to start or what to learn, or what practices to do

Do you guys have any resources?

I'd prefer to draw things like landscapes or positions of the body without the details of the face, if that's okay

Pic related
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>>2034
Well, I'd say use Betty Edward's Drawing on the right side of the brain as a great place to start.

For simple relaxing enjoyment, I'd recommend watching Uncle Bob Ross on YT. Good ASMR, and about the comfy-est artist ever.
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I'm basically just tracing and subsequentially copying things for now, hoping this will eventually allow me to pivot to other things. But it's hard to even just, do this every day. Everything is kinda discouraging.
I posted in your other thread on another board, let's hope one of these manages to be somewhat active.
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>>2045
>I'm basically just tracing and subsequentially copying things
Why?
>hoping this will eventually allow me to pivot to other things
When?

Copying and tracing is for getting information that someone else has, drawing on your own is how you make it yours. If you only copy then you're not learning to do it yourself, you're just pouring information from one end and letting it fall off the other end. That, and it's harder to look at your own art if you get too used to looking at art that you copied from someone more skilled.
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>>2045
Don't trace, it's fine to use other's art as reference but don't copy it or trace it. I recommend looking at still life photography and using it as reference instead, it will greatly help you.
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>>2046
>>2047
Yeah, I keep wondering if this is even helpful. But like, it feels satisfying after I'm done and I'm having difficulties keeping up with even doing this. It has made my hand a bit more stable at least. But yeah I feel like actually drawing stuff on my own is really scary, I just don't know...
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>>2048
Of course it's going to look like shit at first but it's shit you drew.
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>>2049
I honestly don't have that much expectations on myself but it still feels so scary to just draw from scratch, I just hope I'll figure it out somehow.
Pic related: Some really amateurish art I found on DeviantArt that I just find strangely inspiring. It's not that good yet I like it.
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>>2050
You are not going to merely draw from scratch, you are going to use reference because that's what literally everyone else does or has done before.
Here's Hirohiko Araki using reference while he draws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qM2vHahcqQ[Embed]
You don't have to be great to start but you have to start to ever be great. And yes that amateurish drawing is actually pretty cute, just draw inspiration from whatever you like too.
>>2048
The biggest advantage of tracing is that it allows you to break through problems that are stuck in your muscle memory. It can be very helpful, but I don't think it's that useful if it's the only thing you do.

Try copying a drawing without tracing first, and when it turns into an embarrassing failure, then start over and trace the drawing. That might help you develop an intuition for what the difference between yourself and the real drawing is and adjust yourself.

If you already expect that the first drawing will be bad and you'll be tracing a better version afterwards, it might be less scary.
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>>2045
>I posted in your other thread on another board
Yeah, I noticed, thanks! I really liked /beg/ and /fig/, and who knows how long it’ll take (if ever) for them to come back. The goal is to keep an anonymous, critique based art banter site. I’ve tried other sites, and honestly, not being anonymous and ephemeral really sucks.

About tracing, it’s just a tool. It’s great for finding proportions and angles when studying or when transferring your work to another medium, e.g., paper to canvas. If it's used to replicate finished art, I find it becomes too linear and lacks a real thinking process. When you draw organically, you jump all over the place, like starting with the chest and moving to the feet to keep the balance and proportions.

What I do is trace big shapes to analyze the work, in my example, check proportions then use that information to make a copy as fast as possible, compare it to the original, take notes, and do it again.

Keep up the good work, anon. Don’t get discouraged. I’d recommend drawing along with rodgon the artist. He streams, and his sessions are insightful and focused on quantity, you’ll get a lot of mileage.
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oh that's right halfchan is kill, i'm guessing most of you are from /ic/
welcome to the board, ya'll are welcome to stay
Merging with other beginner thread
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>>2053
Thank you so much. Finally got around to doing something. Is this the right way? I did it all using the line and circle tool, I felt a bit jittery.
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> /int/ermediate
how do you know when you advanced?
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>>2084
Amazing insight, are you some kind of genius?
>>2086
go back to your irony poisoned website for teenagers
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>>2078
You dont...
Its a leap of faith
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>>2076
>is this the right way?
yeah, analysis is important, try to find relationships and proportions, if you follow those you will most likely end up with something very reminescent of the artist you want to emulate. After that what's missing is actually copying the work. try this, recolor the skeleton to red or another bright color and use that to draw a copy. here's an example excuse the crudeness but I don't have time to refine it but I think it gives the general idea for a practice.

I will continue to check this board every other day.

Good luck drawing is fun.

>>2078
if you have to ask...
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>>2090
>Good luck drawing is fun.
Mmm when you manage to I guess. I don't want to disappoint you.
Anyway I've been off this for quite a while now but I managed to do something today. I picked a photo of a geometrically simple object that I find aesthetically interesting. This should be better than copying a drawing I think.
Anyway I have just made a skeleton but I keep messing up on some lines, mostly the arms and legs, and I keep redoing them. Is this what I'm supposed to do?
I eventually decided to just say fuck-it and try to go for quantity over quality. Just want to post this first one, I'll try to redo it a bunch of times. I think posting stuff will help me stay motivated.
I've also found a cheap scanner so if I decide to go back to doing actual pencil drawings I'll be able to scan them in.
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>>2099
You should look into studying form and the underlying/basic shapes that make up 3D objects. Proko has a few good lessons on this (I don't have them on hand, but I have this guide for drawing torsos which goes over the same principles of drawing a 3D object https://archive.fo/PNKex)
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>>2053
Doing terribly at keeping up, but just managed to make a full drawing using the skeleton method, and it looks ok I guess.
It feels really good to draw but I have to manage to do this way more frequently.
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>>2103
Good work anon, thats the way you keep drawing and find relationships and apply them, for example, where is the knife in relationship  to the shoulder, how far apart the eyes are. The order anon gave a good resource, proko has some good vids for beginners you can buy or pirate his beginners course too.
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>>2105
>for example, where is the knife in relationship  to the shoulder, how far apart the eyes are
When I was drawing this I felt like I kept screwing things up somewhat that ended up stacking up. He looks chubby, but only in the upper body which is weird, and he's leaning back a bit too. Also forgot to color in the knife handle.
Also I just realized I didn't even do the hair shininess, I just forgot.
I really like the look when I use a 2B pencil brush set to maximum opacity, it kinda looks like when you draw something in pencil, scan it and then up the contrast.
Still, I feel unsure how I will ever graduate to doing things from scratch. It almost felt like I was tracing while doing the copying part.
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>>2107
Well I liked it, 

>I feel unsure how I will ever graduate to doing things from scratch. It almost felt like I was tracing while doing the copying part.

one path is copying like you did then, try to do it from memory and to that many many times, each time you will find something new. you are at a stage were you focus should be on pen mileage
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