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This is a board for Mecha, Androids and Tokusatsu.
This means you can discuss about  video games, anime and manga relating to mechs and androids such as Gundam and Ghost in the Shell or live action stuff like Tokusatsu Superheroes and Kaiju flicks such as Kamen Rider and Godzilla.
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What mecha vidya have you been playing lately?
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>>1032
OK, sounds reasonable. Then how about on a fresh distro copy either on another box or inside a VM?
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>>1033
The meson install actually pulls in wlroots as a subproject and doesn't demand systemd as a mandatory dependency there. I installed every other optional dependency to be safe, but it still spits out the right output of >>1030 even after installing the non-systemd dependencies manually. The resulting binary attempts to run in a headless mode, complains about /tmp/.X11-unix not having the sticky bit, and segfaults mid-message about a missing screen.
Eh, you might be right. Even if you aren't, it's probably as good an excuse as any to set qemu up, as I imagine I need hardware-level virtualization working to mess around with Xbox mecha games on xemu anyways.
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>>1034
Understood. Good detective work, and good luck with this endeavor. Please let us all know how it goes for you, Anon! Cheers.
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>>1035
It isn't going anywhere at the moment because Wine (and Wine specifically, as Proton still works fine) has broken on my setup, and I cannot for the life of me figure out why. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and when it doesn't work it crashes on entirely different error messages when I run it several times in a row on the same programs. I'm most likely going to have to figure this out through their IRC or their bug tracker, as I can't tell whether this is a problem with Wine itself or one of its many dependencies.
>>1028
Anon, just download the GOG release, it's pre-patched.

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What are your favourite mecha pilot controls? Your least favourite? There's been a lot of variety over the decades, and it's always fun to see what mecha designers come up with.
On my end, it's gotta be the Escaflowne's setup. I've always been partial to anything that approximates pilot motion capture, and Escaflowne's controls are a sick, more visibly mechanical way of doing that than G Gundam strapping the pilot into a mocap suit.
>try to find my Escaflowne control gifs
>can't
>do a google image search
>find the tumblr blog that they came from
>they've been replaced with animated WEBPs which don't work here
Thanks Jewgle and webshits; you all suck.
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>>1043 (OP) 
>I've always been partial to anything that approximates pilot motion capture
That's probably a good solution. OTOH, the IRL F-16 joystick literally doesn't move over 1/4" during operation (it works by pressure sensing alone), and it's an incredibly responsive flight controller system, by all accounts.
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I think this is one of the areas where American mecha wins out, because they tend to subscribe to the philosphy of "There's a button, lever, and  screen for EVERYTHING! If one doesn't exist, we fucked up somewhere."
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>>1045
Lol. I think the F-15 and the older school 747 were both literal flying icons of just this philosophy!  :D

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Whatcha buildin'?
Whatcha buyin'?
Whatcha just fuck up?
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>>1015
I've only been posting the new one so far.  So here are some gifs before the retrofit.  Go far back enough it had zero computers and was propelled by a snowblower :D
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Kinda looks like shit atm, but got the basic controls for the mech arms worked out.  Just blind driving, no encoders in the joints yet, running at 50% power.
Also have yet to install the elbow controller and hands XD
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>>1038
So freakin' cool. What does the joystick do when it slides?
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>>1038
IT's HAPPENING
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>>1039
Sliding the whole joystick assembly forward swings the arm forward.  So when punching with the mech on manual its gonna be some gurren lagann shit.

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New Gundam
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>>1000
It sucks because I prefer what I've seen of G-Witch's suit designs, but what little I've heard otherwise doesn't sound great. Then again, yuritards in my experience are absolutely horrendous at actually talking about any media which features their fetish or sets off their yuri alarms somehow, so maybe I should just ignore them.
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>>1004
Every gundamfag I've talked to about it hates G-Witch with the fury of a thousand suns. Something to do with the setting being essentially cyberpunk (Anaheim in the UC comes close but otherwise unique in the franchise) but the series itself is like a high school slice of life with robots tacked on for most of its run. While it eventually does pick up from what I've heard the plot is still basically a string of woman moments until the MC gets gay married to the main rival at the end.
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>>1021
That sounds like ass in a boring way. At least a show like BNA is a big enough fuckup that you can laugh at it for accidentally inverting itself.
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>>1000
Man, does GQuuuuuuX feel like it needs another episode or two. The show has almost no breathing room after they leave the colony, and there's so much going on in the last episode that I want to rewatch it to take in a couple details better. The idea of some G-Witch newfag trying to watch this and getting completely lost because of how heavily it relies on UC callbacks and Evangelion crossreferences is pretty hilarious, but even if some of it is neat, this thing is a mess.
When do we get the MAN-03 Kikeroga gunpla? I love how retarded it looks.
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>>1027
Update: I'm glad I rewatched those last two episodes, as I was so tired the first time around that I somehow completely missed Amuro's presence within the GQuuuuuuX. It figures that I spent the entire show waiting for that and overlooked it through sheer exhaustion when it happened.

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Weird merges or general designs.
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Slave Zero really liked giving its mecha boobs for some reason.
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>>1029
Looking further into this game's art and history while I've been trying to get the PC version working has been sadder than I expected. The guys who made Slave Zero crammed the game full of Eva Unit-inspired biomecha designs, but were forced by the publisher to make the player's mecha a really bland design which didn't fit the rest of the game's art direction. Most of the attention was pushed towards a gimped Dreamcast port, with the team not being allowed to further improve the PC version at all for several months before launch, and said PC version was unceremoniously shat out with almost no launch coverage to tell players it had come out at all.
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>>1036
As he said in the previous post's first and second images, the mecha designer was so badly burned by the experience that he decided he would never put his heart into his commercial work again. By the looks of it, he made good on that promise. Everything else in his portolio past Slave Zero is really obviously the work of someone who's just clocking in for a job.
It hurts. I get why he gave up after Slave Zero, but it still hurts.

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>>1012
Interesting
>>1011 (OP) 
It's interesting how a lot of people are really sympathetic to fictional androids, but have a strong gut reaction against LLMs.
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>>1019
How so, anon?
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>>1020
From what I saw, a lot of people widely sympathised with the robots in media like The Second Renaissance from the Animatrix, but when neural networks began actually taking peoples' jobs and making shitty art, said people freaked out a lot.
I think a lot of the difference is that fictional robots either actually think or ambigiously do, whereas my understanding of most artificial neural networks is that they're closer to Frieren's demons. In Frieren's world, the latter are a hyper-advanced version of folklore monsters which imitate human speech or appearance without understanding it to feed off people. Frieren demons fundamentally do not think like humans, feel human emotions (maybe outside a form of pride), or understand human language: they perceive human language and interaction as a sort of bullshitting game for getting what they want out of their prey. Said demons are difficult to talk about without anthromorphizing them too much, and their output from their training data is passably "human" enough that it fools a lot of lefty viewers into thinking they're actually just like us instead of deeply alien, hostile lifeforms.
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>>1022
I used to work for a big financial firm, around 2019 they started implementing OCR AI into their lockbox operations (local AI to do data entry for financial data). As they explained it, it is like asking for the statistically most likely answer based on the user input and the training set. The AI goes "based on my data, I am 90% sure this is the letter 'a'" and so on.  As I understand it LLMs work similarly, but instead of letters it is a statistical probability of the most likely sentence chunk (token).  The models are collections of statistical probabilities based upon the training set along with a bit of random noise so you don't get the same result every time.

You know what happened? In early 2020 the firm laid of a bunch of people.  Now in 2026 they're begging for people to come back.

As I like to say: AI is Actually Sophisticated Statistics, or ASS.  It is pretty much pretending to think, which is why lefties think it is intelligent: just like them, it just gives the most likely answer based upon what it knows.  This is assuming a raw, unmodified AI.  Of course, most of the commercial AIs want you to keep using them, so they're automated simps.

True human innovation, however, comes from the statistically unlikely.  Accidents and imperfection can discover something new.

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Do it faggot
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>>988
That looks really cool, actually.
Welcome, /mecha/
>>988
What was the outcome of that competition again? I have a vague memory of it being rigged in the American chicken walker's favour and them still doing poorly.
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>>990
You referring to Megabots vs Kuratas?

Megabots went bankrupt and Suidobashi Heavy Industries (Kuratas) were a bunch of jerks including making Megabots sign an NDA about Kuratas.  But since Megabots went bankrupt the NDA doesn't apply and Matt told the truth about Kuratas.

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>>996
Yeah, seems I got mixed up.
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>>996
I don't know how often I'll be posting here, but I am happy that this place has come alive again. Welcome back to being online, /mecha/

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I get enough of just seeing humanoid robots and just prefer the overall wild aesthetics of animal shaped mechs.
One of the things that make Zoids unique is that it is one of the few types of Mecha in fiction that happen to be lifeforms, but with the only thing unique to them is that they can reproduce and are natural creatures that evolved on their world.
Not all Zoids are built from the ground up, some of them were caught in the wild, tamed and fitted with cockpits for the pilots.
Another thing is that there are also feral Zoids that were once piloted by humans but then escaped or released living freely in the wild.
Zoids are native to the Planet Zi, a world that is much like Earth but with two moons. Zi was originally populated by an extinct human-like race called the Zoidians which were the ones that tamed and rode the Zoids before humanity colonized their world. The Zoidians may have died out but they may have mixed their bloodlines into the human population.
"Fiona" Elisi Linette, an Ancient Zoidian pure blood was the last of her kind. Juno Hera is a human of Zoidian decent.
The Organoids are among my personal favorites. They are small Zoids that can fuse into the cores of large Zoids and give them ultimate power. Zeke, a little dinosaur fuses with Shield Liger and helped it evolve into the first ever Blade Liger. Liger Zero has an organoid but permanently fused to its core unlike the latter that can diffuse.
Organoids have a special connection with Zoidians as demonstra
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I remember enjoying New Century first, then seeing Chaotic Century and loving that too. But on rewatch some years ago I realized New Century was shit and I dropped it. I fucking love the dual audio Chaotic Century though. Watching it has made me want to build some model zoids again also.
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>>550
Chaotic Century was definitely the superior series with a good cast of characters and a nice storyline.
New Century is just "Tournament Arc" the anime.
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>>551
Is it at least a good tournament arc?
Rewatching the original now. Comfy.
My friends always thought I was crazy for preferring Chaotic Century to New Century Zero. Nice to see others that share my opinion for once.

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Just on the border of your waking mind
There lies another time
Where darkness and light are one
And as you tread the halls of sanity
You feel so glad to be
Unable to go beyond
I have a message from another time
WE'RE BACK
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>>984 (OP) 
Nice! I like the CSS, btw.

@BO
You'll want to uncheck the last two tick boxes under your Manage > Settings > General tab; this enables listing your board both in the Trashchan Overboard, as well as on the Webring. Cheers.
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>>985
Beat me to it, kek. Thanks to you lads for offering to host this place: I'm really glad /mecha/ gets to have a second chance.
The one change I've made to the rules so far was to remove the one about sticking to thread topics. I might try to reword it in the future, but staying on-topic isn't something I want to be too anal about, as being too rigid about that tends to stifle good conversation.
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>>986
Heh.  :)

>rules
The site rules are general. Beyond that, just as you yourself see fit!
>as being too rigid about that tends to stifle good conversation.
Totally understand.

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