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>>1733 (OP) 
The Fediverse has some good people (the "dark" side, not the Mastotranny side).
Other than that, though, I think you're just gonna have to fish in the normalfag sites like cuckchan and Twatter and use your janny powers and culture barriers to filter out the unwanted scum. Various factors have led to the internet becoming centralized and dedicated hobbyist forums dying off, replaced by cliques on mass social media sites which are going to have to be the raw material you build from.

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>>1733 (OP) 
That's a bit of a tough one. The standard way to advertise anything nowadays is to open up a couple social media accounts on different sites, most of which I don't believe are a good fit for this. Social media accounts have their place in advertising, but most attract algorithm-fried people with low attention spans, and these likely aren't a good fit for imageboards. You can see the effects of that on anthro.foo and its adjacent sites. They're active, but they're also filled with namefags and people who talk like twitter users.
I think it's better to ask yourself how and where you find lurkers and the better kinds of old-internet people so they can find you. Ideally you want fewer lame schizos and burnt-out social media users vs interesting, self-motivated people. A lot of smaller IBs just make ad threads on other sites and call it a day, which, as you've probably noticed, usually don't work and just annoy anons instead. I don't think the book has really been written on this beyond the basic advice of making a place that people want to talk about and make OC for (which is a bit of a chicken or egg problem on the modern web), so I'll spitball a couple suggestions.
>Get site mascots and board-tans. Commission them if you have to
>Upload higher-quality OC to general purpose boorus like Danbooru or Gelbooru, especially when it's site or board-specific enough to warrant dedicated tags
>If you make a social media account, try something which isn't algorithm driven ( >>1735 suggested the fediverse, which is a decent idea for this purpose despite not getting twitter's numbers by nature)
>The namefag internet is always going to exist, so try to be culturally upstream of social media and chatrooms instead of downstream
>Try to cater a little more towards creative and self-sufficient hobbies/lifestyles over purely consumptive ones
The last one is a bit difficult to apply to an anime board, but it's likely worth trying to work in somehow, even if it's just in how anons engage with and respond to anime.

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>>1736
Come to think of it, a homesteading board would be a good fit for a lot of this, although anons would have to take care to not dox themselves. I'd consider opening one if my hands weren't a bit full.

>>1735
>The Fediverse has some good people (the "dark" side, not the Mastotranny side).
I'm outta the loop on that one, mind elaborating? I only know that the faux-twitter mastodon exists, but I don't care about twatter's format to begin with, so mastodon never interested me either.
>Other than that, though, I think you're just gonna have to fish in the normalfag sites like cuckchan and Twatter and use your janny powers and culture barriers to filter out the unwanted scum.
Yeah, my initial idea was also 4um, and the webring in general. I'm constantly frustrated with smuglo.li's /a/, but that place has actual anons discussing things. Though the meidos there seem utterly un-interested or even hostile to any webring connections or OC from anons. One slip and entire chains of replies get nuked.
>>1736
>>The namefag internet is always going to exist, so try to be culturally upstream of social media and chatrooms instead of downstream
You mean being the source of culture that others imitate, instead of imitating already popular trends, yes? If so, I think it'd be rather doable.
>>Try to cater a little more towards creative and self-sufficient hobbies/lifestyles over purely consumptive ones
>The last one is a bit difficult to apply to an anime board, but it's likely worth trying to work in somehow, even if it's just in how anons engage with and respond to anime.
I agree, though taken to an extreme, self sufficiency means being alone and not interacting with people or culture at all, be it anime or anything else. Suffice to say, I'm not ready to go full uncle ted and live in the woods.

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>>1739
Fediverse sites which use the Mastodon server software tend to be run by leftist schizos who block massive lists of other Fediverse sites for really stupid reasons (a common one being the crime of not having a blocklist). Thus weebs, libertarians, right-leaning people in general, and anyone a leftist could conceivably get angry at are usually elsewhere, and they tend to congregate on sites running either Pleroma or Misskey. I find these are closer to the old days of StatusNet (later known as GNU Social), which was the main OStatus and ActivityPub implementation before Mastodon's dev showed up and shattered the network.
>I don't care about twatter's format to begin with, so mastodon never interested me either
Neither do I, hence why I almost never log in outside the rare time I'm looking for art on it.
Still, it's not a terrible idea if you're looking for potential board users. There's a much more relaxed pace to it than what I've seen of Twitter or Bluesky, as you can distinctly feel the lack of an algorithm messing with you or the kinds of posts others make. The lefties in their self-quarantine zones are often still very miserable, mind you, but if your account hangs around the non-lefty zones, you'll likely pick up some people who'll do well on a slower board.
>You mean being the source of culture that others imitate, instead of imitating already popular trends, yes? If so, I think it'd be rather doable.
Easier said than done, but still likely something worth shooting for. Honestly moreso than just being purely upstream, the idea is to be a place new people want to adapt themselves to instead of something they want to turn into another outlet for Twitter, Discord, and the Sharty.

>>1739
>I'm outta the loop on that one, mind elaborating?
The poster below already basically answered you, but Dark Fedi is called that because it's blocked by almost the entire other half of the Fediverse (the Mastotranny side). The latter go so far as to maintain entire blocklists of so-called "nazi/troll instances" which they spread around their peers and as a result the Fediverse is basically split down the middle between leftist and tranny instances and right-wing/free speech/weeb instances separated by the Great Fedi Wall. Here's just a couple examples of the blocklists they maintain. Note that just the smaller "general use" list has over 140 instances to block.

https://gardenfence.github.io/

https://seirdy.one/posts/2023/05/02/fediverse-blocklists/

>>1741
>Easier said than done, but still likely something worth shooting for.
True, true. In imageboards and life in general I often feel like I'm the one that cares the most about trying to actually build something independent. Most other creatives seem content with being fucked in the ass by twatter, jewtube or whatnot.
>>1742
Back to fediverse, what are some sites you'd actually recommend? I don't really feel like going through a lefty made list of "evil natzee sites to block".
Also, how do these federated things work in practice? Kinda like webrings, but with a shared index/catalog page (to put it in IB terms)?

>>1745
>Back to fediverse, what are some sites you'd actually recommend?
https://varishangout.net/main/public
<Primarily otaku-centric, they talk almost exclusively about Japanese and Asian media. Also basically lolicon central
https://shitposter.world
<Instance mainly composed of hobbyists, including anime fans and gamers.
https://detroitriotcity.com/
https://poa.st/
<Free speech instances that are a mixed bag of weebs, hobbyists and political polemicists. Poast is the largest instance on Dark Fedi, so there's a lot of people there. You'll probably want to pick and choose since some Poasters are very fond of bringing up Politics at the Anime Table if you have a problem with that.
>Also, how do these federated things work in practice? Kinda like webrings, but with a shared index/catalog page (to put it in IB terms)?
Yes. Instances have their own users and rules, but all users and content are interact-able from other instances as long as either instance does not block them. So if you have a problem with how one instance is run, you can just move to another or even set up your own and lose very little in the process. It's designed to be censorship-resistant and to have tools to allow you control over what you want your community to be.

>>1748
>registration is closed on shitposter.world and poa.st

>>1749
Most Fedi instances closed their registrations after one too many incidents where bad actors uploaded illegal content (fedposts) to try and get the sites taken down. You now need an invite for the majority of them.

>>1748
As someone who used to lurk the fediverse, all of these sites are genuinely terrible recommendations are surefire gateways into being miserable all the time.
Varis is filled with a bunch of obnoxious fagogts and poast is nothing but politisperging

>>1748
That's cool and all, but all of them except detroitriot don't have a "make account" option, or I just can't find it.
>>1750
>You now need an invite for the majority of them.
Kinda defeats the purpose of recommending them then, unless someone here is an insider.

>>1753
>>1748
Did my previous post get deleted?
Anyway, what I was trying to post is that if they're all interconnected and such, it should be possible to make an account on any random instance, and interact from there, no? How's the visibility compared to "native" posts?

>>1753
>Kinda defeats the purpose of recommending them then, unless someone here is an insider.
Well, DRC at least has registrations open, so you can sign up there and possibly move to your preferred instance that way.
>>1754
>How's the visibility compared to "native" posts?
Your posts along with everyone else's are visible on the "Whole Known Network" timeline, which collects post from all instances that yours federates with, while the "Public Timeline" compresses it to just posts from users of that specific instance. Someone can also click your profile from another instance and it will usually load most of your recent timeline (but not all your posts going back). And obviously those you follow and followers should be able to see all your posts.

>>1757
It's also worth remembering that, since fediverse posts aren't algorithmically recommended to people, you don't have to perform weird algorithm-baiting tricks to get people to see your posts. You just post things, and people respond to them if they feel like it.
This makes a bigger difference than you'd expect. The kinds of posts that get big on Twitter or Bluesky fall completely flat on the Fediverse, and the pace of everything is noticeably more relaxed. It's still not my thing, as I'm not a social media person at all, but it really does make you realise just how much of Twitter and Bluesky's cancer comes from users molding themselves to the algorithm vs the microblogging format per se.