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mr admin, the onion (trashchan2rvdng5zm7346sfxrrkjwvqzolw4lfdyldcsdpmsyj4dkid.onion) site appears to be down, with error code 0xF0 (Onion site not found)
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>>1065 (OP) 
Can confirm, Admin.
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>>1066
is there an eta on when it'll be back up?
[warn] Giving up on launching a rendezvous circuit to [scrubbed] for hidden service [scrubbed]
Shitloads of times in the log, thanks tor... But I restarted it and now it seems to work, maybe there was a change in the network (tor also dies on my notebook if I suspend it. It's hilariously bad).
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>>1068
working on my end, thank you for the prompt fix
>>1068
Thanks, Admin.

>It's hilariously bad
Heh, it certainly has room for growth!  :D

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This is a thread to give some background on the illegal porn spam with links. I've seen some false guesses and claims going around on various boards so I figured it's time I made a dedicated thread to explain it.

I have been a janny, mod or admin on a few imageboards for the past 10 years, and casually post on many, including anon.cafe for the last 4 (although less so recently). Those who use a few different sites at once, especially slower/understaffed boards, will soon begin to notice patterns. Posts which look out of place. Identical posts which look out of place on two different sites. Drop a quote from it into a search engine and it's on twenty different imageboards!
It turns out there are a few spammers on imageboards, who go down a list of boards reposting the same post. A few years ago I made a bot to regularly check for new threads on imageboards and highlight any duplicates, documenting imageboard spam to find patterns and learn how to combat it.
There are a few different main categories of this spam. One is imageboard spam (or sometimes forums or D#scord chats), many of you will have seen recent posts from two news imageboards, just posting a link to their site and leaving. Political spam is also big (almost always either generic /pol/ tripe, Christian evangelism or actual schizophrenic psychosis), and it's worth noting that politics spam was especially big around 2020 so there will probably be a heap later this year. This is easy to spot on hobby boards, although it often blends in unnoticed on politics boards and random (/b/) boards, where they're often taken seriously, and sometimes those spammers choose to just repost only on the dozen /pol/ boards online. There are some other smaller classes of spam, but we're here to talk about the biggest spam category by far:

The CP spam is commercial spam. That's why they have links in them.
They hit any imageboard they can find. Even test sites with no users.
Different CP site owners have been doing this for at least 10 years, and probably ever since the internet went public.

This isn't news to people who have been around for a while, but for fresh users on political sites it's easy to jump to the conclusion that its one person (some cryptic 'pedoposter' character), or their designated scapegoat or feds trying to take their site down. But this was happening before /pol/ was even a board on 4chan, and it was happening on even harmless niche hobby imageboards (which is where I started jannying ten years ago, to help delete the hourly CP spam until the admin programmed a hacky countermeasure). And they don't just target imageboards. This is commercial spam. They target any blog comment section or unsecured forum they can discover. You can verify this yourself by checking where the same ad link appears in a search engine. There are commercial/freeware tools made by organized crime companies for discovering and spamming unsecured forums, which brag about being able to break most captchas (and even 10 years ago you could pay $1 per 1000 Google reCAPTCHA solves by real humans in poorer countries, all plugged into your bot via an API).

But there's an important point. The current ones aren't bot posting. These are humans, fresh custom-made captchas don't stop them. Simple post filters don't stop them ('post blocked, please try again' won't stop someone who is financially motivated). Anything that wouldn't stop you, won't stop them. And I say 'them' for good reason, you can verify both through basic linguistic forensics (typing styles, filename choices, filter evasion techniques, etc.) and by fingerprinting their user-agents that the same link is being posted by multiple spammers. Specifically, the current one with a child model on a purple background has the same link being posted by three distinct people, all from East Siberia and far North East Asia. They each have a list of target sites (some use imageboard lists like (historically) cc0's list or AllChans, others use custom-made spam lists with all kinds of websites on them, this can sometimes be confirmed by checking their HTTP referrers) and they go down the list, one by one, often clearly in alphabetical order, posting their garbage. They usually post on the first board they see, usually the first alphabetically or the most active/bumped board (which is why anons here correctly pointed out /comfy/ and /k/ were disproportionately targeted on anon.cafe), although they may also just have a certain arbitrary board saved (like lainchan's /zzz/, apparently), maybe because it got listed in a search first. I've seen cases where an imageboard has just locked their /a/ board due to constant spam and most of it disappeared (/a/ is first in alphabetical order, so on their homepage it was the first a spammer would click, so this wouldn't work on lynxchan/jschan's boardlist where they're ordered by activity).

It's also important to keep in mind that CP sites come and go, and along with it, different spammers. There have been particularly nasty ones in the past which posted full nudes, link in the image only so the post couldn't be text filtered, random filename, and either no text or text copied from other posts. Phash techniques could be a useful approach there, and the Junkuchan admin has mentioned in the Cloudflare thread that phash filtering has worked well for them. 
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>>1035
Their thread is already gone, but a lot of it was people sharing individual peices of spam they left and asking each other how to get around bans. At some point they lost focus and diversified their attacks and started spaming soy on other boards at a lower intensity.  I know they also bled out into a few other parts of the ring. They have a surprising amount of traffic.
how autistic do u have to be to have this much discussion about muh cp spammer glower (TM)
i saw that shit 10 years ago and immediately knew it was a typical fake warez spammer retard trying to make passive income, and im sure whatever else you geniuses found out in the rest of this thread is stuff i already knew too, just after 5 seconds of seeing that spammer spam his shit once 15 years ago b4 it added itself 2 my mental spamlist
>thread gets linked elsewhere
>some Dunning-Kruger retard from the peanut gallery promptly arrives to spray diarrhea
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>>1053
You made me chuckle, anon.
The spammer hit /p/ and I've deleted and banned him but I'm not sure if I modded it correctly since it would only let me delete the post but not unlink and delete files so Admin should check that I've got everything gone. Thanks.

This is something I meant to write since some time, but now the impending doom of anon.cafe finally made me actually do this.

Originally this site was born as a tech demo after the demise of zchan, to modify jschan so it can run on multiple servers, for load balancing and maybe better ddos resistance. But the code never got merged upstream, so this site still runs a fork of jschan, originally on 3 servers, now on only two (and both of them at buyvm, so it's not much redundancy). On the other hand, zzzchan (probably the biggest imageboard running jschan) went with the original jschan and only using HTTP reverse proxies, so maybe this is overkill, after all. But anyway, whatever started as a tech demo pretty much stayed.
Which brings me to the current state of this site, it's pretty dead. There's /nep/, which is a copy of the old 8chan's /nep/, but at this point it pretty much functions only as an archive, it barely has any traffic. There's /quest/, it had some activity in the past, but now it has like 1 posts per week, one half-dead quest and a couple of dead ones. And /finance/, it also had some traffic initially, but now it's also pretty dead. I also have two BOs who never log in, so I have to delete the spam posted to their boards. (It's not that bad, filters catch most of the spam, and since the site is so dead, I can just open the global recent posts page, and delete any spam. I guess a dead site has some advantage too.)
In the past I didn't have any instructions on how to get a new board, because, to be honest, I didn't want to attract a lot of attention. I have better shit to do than dealing with courts and getting raided just because some anon said something on my site, or dealing with butthurt faggots ddosing my site. This site is not under cuckflare, and I'd very much like to keep it that way. On the other hand my gatekeeping was probably a bit too aggressive, even though I didn't do much (I think I only rejected one board). I guess just assuming that anons would randomly come here was a mistake. I'm also very bad at being proactive, if it's not already obvious.

So with that out of the way, I'd like to open an official board request thread. This is a free service, I reserve the right to reject any application or to shut down the service any time; don't expect 99.999999% uptime, blah blah blah. But unless you're one of those boards that are known to attract a lot of drama/shitstorm/lolcows/school shootings/etc, it's probably okay. I'd like to keep this site nice and comfy rather than having high PPH, there are better admins out there when it comes to dealing with that shit.
Required info:
>URI e.g. /uri/
>name of the board
>a short description/rationale
What is this board and why do you think I won't reject it, not the description that goes onto the board listing.
>planned rules
Include that global rules apply.
>what BO experience you have
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>>1051
How about you stop trying to shill your imageboard where it doesnt belong?
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>>1055
Who the fuck is ‘you,’ you dumbass? What, you think you’re chatting up just one person here? I ain’t shilling shit. I’m just here pointing out that you are a whiny little dramanigger, which you fucking are as evidenced  by your post, and telling you to piss off, which you damn well should do. Imagine waltzing this little corner of the internet like a clueless prick to stir up crap because you are bored mongoloid who gets a kick out of that. Get a life, dipshit.
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>>1056
There is no drama. Im only against you shilling your shitty imageboard. There is literally no reason for your boards to have "sister boards" with this site. Why is your site so different from any of the others in the webring? Why shouldnt trashchan be "sister boards" with any of them?
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>>1057
>There is no drama
>proceeds to incite further dramaniggering for his own amusement
>keeps accusing others of being the one person he was talking to days ago
>screenshots thins people said in the off chance of getting a "gotcha" moment because he wants to start cross site drama
Neck yourself my man
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>>1058
There is no drama. Im against shilling.

What's wrong with your webring? Doesn't seem to crawl, lots of sites are missing.
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Bumping, I can't get non-local boards to show.
Maybe ask Tom for troubleshooting help if this is a regular issue.
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>>851
Same. No other boards besides Trashchan seem to be showing up.
Hey Trashmin, webring seems to be broke again.
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>>1059
Fixed it for now
Thanks, Admin. Much appreciated.

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Merry Christmas, Trashmin!
I don't think I've thanked you properly before.
Thank you for letting anon.cafe's legacy live on.

I hope you have a good one.
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>>859 (OP) 
This.

Merry Christmas, Trashchan!!
Hello Admin. I'm not sure which is the proper thread for such a request, and this one was labled 'Meta', so yeah.

Back during anon.cafe days, if a special stream or other event (iCup, for example) was occurring, a request  could be made for the site admin to make a special announcement banner and link to whatever was going on.

As you may know, David Lynch recently passed away. He's very popular among Anons, and one of the webring boards ( /digi/ ) is planning special airings of some of his films during streams. Can we possibly get a site announcement made here, once the details have been set?
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>>891
Sorry for the late reply, feel free to bump the thread if I miss a message again.
About sitewide announcements, there could be if it's something that concerns multiple boards and not too frequent.
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>>894
Thanks Admin. Let's see what /digi/ says about schedules then.
@Admin
Just a quick headsup that I've temporarily re-indexed /robowaifu/ here. It seems there are some networking issues with our main board at alogs.space . Cheers.

update:
Primary site back. Re-unlisted here.
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Hey Admin, I'm trying to set my custom CSS on /comfy/ but it says
'''
Bad Request
Custom CSS strict mode is enabled and does not allow the following: "@", "url("
'''

I believe it's because I link the background image in it, despites I uploaded it in the "Assets" settings of the board.
https://trashchan.xyz/asset/comfy/6c6f248c291c7e2674e510c6cdd3f33fb2564164176ab322109fe8788c9abcbb.png
and here is the line of the CSS file :
'''
background-image: url(/asset/comfy/6c6f248c291c7e2674e510c6cdd3f33fb2564164176ab322109fe8788c9abcbb.png);
,,,

It works well when I test my CSS in the "on the fly" settings though so I believe it may be a permission problem that prevent me to put anURL in my CSS. Please halp !
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>>919
Firefox just say "unable to connect" or "connection has timed out". I've tested with multiple servers based in NL.
It works when I'm connecting through a server based in Germany from the same VPN provider.
>path.net
maybe as the VPN I'm using may be on a blacklist of some sort.
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>>920
Well, does this site load?
https://speedtest.lv.buyvm.net/
If yes, it's probably path.net doing something
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>>921
The site loads yes.
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>>922
Well, I received no useful reply from them other than they might be using stopforumspam's database. Can you check your ip there?
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>>924
I checked some IPs from NL sevrers and none of them are listed on their site. Still cannot connect to Trashchan with them.
It's not a major issue for myself as I can just use some different country server or just don't use my VPN. Just to let you know this and hope it's not blocking some legitimate  NL anons.

Sorry if the answer to this is buried somewhere in jschan's docs, I'm a bit lazy. Is there a way to exclude a whole board from the overboard view in the user settings? I can't read French and I don't care about vtubers but I otherwise do like to check on the pulse of the whole site.
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>>893
>Should be a customization dropdown now there.
Ohh! That's very cool, thanks Admin! Should be handy for some Anons.
>
>>892 (OP) 
>I can't read French
Just learn, you're missing some high quality discussion xD
>>893
Nice setting, thanks.
Ayei, just realized that it's just a way to automatically generate a query string for the overboard URL and not a cookie like the user settings, so it's not persistent. Sad! I wonder if I should submit a pull request to Tom. Back on 8chan this would be handled by the Multiboard function, but there's nothing like that on jschan as far as I know.
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>>917
Can't you just bookmark the url?
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>>918
NTA, but this seems like a useful idea actually.
>block different boards during some kind of shitfest or other going on

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Hey! >>>/late/ has been dead for days because the captchas broke. It gets stuck and doesn't provide the option to reload. I thought it was my browser acting up or that my address was blacklisted, but I tried different devices as well as Tor and something serverside is definitely malfunctioning.
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>>880
It's going to be hard to protect against that, since tor (especially if you use it together with something like tor browser) is designed to hide as much identity as possible. But the same thing is true if someone has a large enough botnet, and starts bombarding you from millions of IP addresses, no IP rate limiting will save you.
>>880
>Security through obscurity is illusory and fallacious. I was taught to always assume my adversary knows every detail of how my system works.
It's a good point, Anon (and one I personally follow, since we literally release everything open-source as MIT).

OTOH, there are such things as skiddies, and reducing your attack surface as a form of defense is a military concept going back to pre-history, I'm sure. Some things are commonsense, and this seems one of them to me personally.

OTOOH board Admin is clearly aware of this thread, so it should rightly be in his hands now. Cheers.
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>>882
Off-topic, but why choose MIT over GPL, Apache, BSD, etc...? It's something I wonder every six months or so because I can never remember the key differences between them.
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>>883
We actually have a thread on just this topic. [1]  I'm personally a bit dogmatic on this topic, b/c I want a super-flourishing robowaifu ecosystem to develop for all men everywhere. But I can assure you, that not all our regular Anons on our board are in full agreement with me on this.

My personal >tl;dr on this is:
< BSD/MIT -alikes are simply the single best way to ensure an explosion of new businesses can form (if they will) around your platform. If this happens, then it will literally transform the planet (in our specific case).

Hope that gives you our take on this question, Anon. Cheers.  :)

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1.  https://alogs.space/robowaifu/res/4451.html
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>>884
Additional, tangentially-related topical thread:
https://alogs.space/robowaifu/res/10000.html

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Trashmin, blacklist indiachan. They've not set up their webring correctly. I doubt they intend to.
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>>720
https://gitgud.io/fatchan/jschan/-/commit/5477701887bb0b8b3895bca9e008f7a87c7caa8c
Whoops, mashed enter too quickly and expected captcha on Tor, eheheh.
Piggybacking: can admin please remove anon.cafe (RIP) and sportschan.org (disabled their broken webring altogether) from their list? They replicate to any sites following this one.

>>720 et al.
Someone contacted the jschan dev and figured it out: https://smuglo.li/support/res/1.html#13323
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>>724
I am really surprised that anyone wanted to buy indiachan in the first place.
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>>724
Seconding this
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>>725
>>729
Oops, I missed this in the heaps of posts. Should be fixed now...

Can we please get a /sci/ board?


Thank you!
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>>663 (OP) 
I'd love a /his/ board on the ring, but I think it would be DOA.
I wonder if we combined /sci/ /his/ and /math/ into a polymath board if it would be able to get some activity.

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