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#XXX2 - Short hair suits sweltering summer

This thread is for general (shit)posting of Neptunia and Compile Heart-related topics, similar to /nepgen/ in 4Chan's /vg/. Discussion of Neptunia and other Compile Heart IPs such as Mary Skelter, Fairy Fencer, Death end;re Quest, Mugen Souls and Genkai Tokki is permitted. Discussion of Idea Factory's otomes is discouraged. If you wish to discuss a specific Neptunia or Compile Heart-related topic in-depth, it is encouraged for you to make a thread for it on the board. Remember, you have an entire board for yourselves. Use it.

Previous: https://trashchan.xyz/nep/thread/7517.html

Upcoming Compile Heart games and release dates:

Hyperdevotion Noire (Switch) - Out now in Japan.
Tokyo Clanpool (Switch/PC) - Out now in Asia (Hong Kong e-shop and Playasia) and on GOG
Neptunia Riders VS Dogoos localization - Out now on PS4/PS5/Switch. Switch version is missing DLC
Touhou Spell Carnival localization - Out Now
Neptunia GameMaker R:Evolution - Out Now Xbox Series and PC (MS Store)
Todokero! Tatakae! Calamity Angels (Summer 2025) - PS4/PS5/Switch/PC
Untitled M2 Shoot'em Up (Summer 2025) - PS4/PS5/Switch
Madou Monogatari 4 - Out Now in Japan PS4/PS5/Switch, Out 2025 in the west
Death end re;Quest Code Z (PS4/PS5) - May 13 for western release
Scar-Lead Salvation (PS4/PS5/PC) - May 29 2025, PC and PS4/PS5 versions will launch worldwide same day.
Calamity Angels: Special Delivery (PS4/PS5/Switch) - Summer 2025 for both Japanese and western versions
Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1-3 (PS4) -TBA 2025 for western release

>Hyperdimension Neptunia Downloads (Skins, Artbooks, Manga, Guides, Soundtracks, etc.):
https://rentry.org/rrbfs

>Folder containing all the 4koma and Nepnokai raws:
https://mega.nz/#F!shkAGDaK!-X8nObRihU5EqP5Zx8yVMA
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>>8356 (OP) 
So 700 is the reply limit here. I'll have to make a note of that. Didn't expect you to make a new thread, Unifag. Also, you should have updated the OP, because the PS4 Re;Births just got a release date.
https://www.gematsu.com/2025/07/hyperdimension-neptunia-rebirth-trilogy-for-ps4-launches-september-30-in-the-west
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>>8356 (OP) 
For that poster from the last thread that wanted my Neptastic setup, here it is. For the Mesa files, I just extracted the folder and copy pasted the two files into the Birth3 folder as well as the base game folder (because Neptastic doesn't work on Re;Birth 3 unless the files are in both folders for some reason). I then changed the Opengl override settings to Opengl32.dll and deleted the Neptastic version. As I said, it didn't work out well. Did I do something wrong?
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>>8356 (OP) 
I wish Uni actually wore boots in her default outfit.
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>>8359
You want to keep neptastic's opengl32.dll, rename Mesa DLL to opengl32_nep.dll and place it in the same folder.
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>>8361
if there are more than one dll in the mesa download, you need to copy all of them. you still need to rename mesa's opengl32 to opengl32_nep (or whatever override you have configured)
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>>8360
It was always socks and shoes for her even with prototype designs. Boots look great on her, but I've always liked her regular shoes too. They look light, comfortable, and sturdy while still being adorable. She carefully curls her hair, does a lot of makeup, and clearly has fitted clothes, so no surprise her shoes are overtly cutesy.
I think she might want a pair of blue-bottom boots that matches her dress for the cooler months, but then, we haven't seen an autumn/winter version of her dress either. Not even when she goes to Lowee - that's a bit of a missed opportunity for alternate costumes.
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>>8363
When I first played Re;Birth 2 I thought she had boots since I could not really tell all that well when she becomes playable. Was quite happy since I thought all of them wore boots.
Would love to see it officially, preferably by Tsunako.
The loafers are fine but I love girls in boots.
>Lowee
Honestly that is a huge missed oppurtunity, I would have loved winter outfits for the ones not from Lowee, more boots for me.
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I love my wife Neptune! 
So 700 posts is a hard limit, huh. I hope no old thread got bumped of the catalog, but I guess ultimately new activity is the important thing...
>>8363
Shame Compa is too lazy. In Nep's case, I wish there was a costume with tights, they're the best.
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>>8366
If this is anything like 8chan moe, the catalog probably supports like 20+ pages before threads start getting deleted/archived, and the current oldest thread is on page 11. I think it'll be a while before anything starts getting bumped off. Perhaps it would be worth discussing with the admin or BO what to do when that happens, but I think the BO is MIA again. I hope Blancbro hasn't stopped looking here. Damn it, I forgot that this place uses asterisks for spoilers again.
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Another day of being called a menace to society because I like smol anime girls and moe fanservice games and defend them on their own merits instead of falling in line with people that want them erased from existence.
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>>8369
Looking around at the weeb stuff I missed, and maybe at the world in general, it always feels like arriving at a party that has just ended. Standing among the few hangover bums who haven't left yet and broken bottles in the floor. Well, at least I'll always be able to look back and drink the bottles that are left.
In any case, maybe it's healthier to believe that this too shall pass, and that if nothing else, helping in whatever way you can is the least you can do.
>>8371
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Oh shit, first time I see my art reposted anywhere.
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>>8374
Even though you were late to the party, you were still the life of it.
>>8369
Don't take what they say to heart. You're a nice person.
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Would Blanc overcompensate for her small size by driving an enormous car?
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>>8376
The Queen's chariot..
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>>8375
I mean, I wouldn't change Neptunia for anything. I'd change some things about it sure but over all I'm glad I played it all those years ago.
>>8376
Going by her consoles, she'd probably want something reliable and strong, and it just so happens to be that it's a car twice as tall as her (cute)
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>>8378
What are the things you would change?
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>>8378
>Going by her consoles, she'd probably want something reliable and strong, and it just so happens to be that it's a car twice as tall as her (cute)

Blanc's massive hummer that she needs a step-stool to get into.
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>>8378
>>8380
You're also forgetting that it would have to be a vehicle of an older design that has stood the tests of time and will last.
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It took me this long to realize the old thread wasn't being posted in because it actually reached a hard post limit. That's new to me. I thought everyone had abandoned attempts to post on this site.

Also I suspect my poster ID will be different since I recently had to switch web browsers.

>>8380
That's a cute idea, but I've heard hummers lean to the high maintenance side of things. Maybe a big pickup truck would be better.
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>>8382
>It took me this long to realize the old thread wasn't being posted in because it actually reached a hard post limit.
I thought the same.
>>8379
I think the series would benefit a lot from better worldbuilding. Gamindustri basically encapsulates the whole concept, so having more solid rules and stuff could only make the games better I think.
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Ate another 3-day ban from a 4Cuck jannigger for addressing political shills in what was obviously a political shitflinging thread.
>>8374
I have had this exact feeling constantly for what seems like a decade now. In general, I hate that I became an otaku in what seems to be the twilight of otaku culture.
>>8376
Unless you count her choice of weapon, Blanc doesn't really seem to try to "overcompensate", rather she tries to emphasize the appeal of what she has. She's surprisingly modest that way. In general, Blanc seems to be the most humble and modest of the four goddesses. Both Vert and especially Whoire are arrogant and pretentious as hell, and while Neptune is more sensible, she does have the whole "I'm the protagonist" shtick. Then again, it might just because Blanc (wrongly) believes she has nothing worth boasting of. As such, while I greatly appreciate her modesty, I enjoy seeing the rare moments where she gets to confidently flaunt. It really saddens me to see her think so little of herself sometimes.
>>8384
>Ate another 3-day ban from a 4Cuck jannigger for addressing political shills in what was obviously a political shitflinging thread.
This is most of /v/ now. There's no way its' organic. I've found a good way to address it: When a thread turns to polshit, I leave. This has meant that I've had to leave several Nep threads and SK threads but it's worth it in the long run because the only reason people drag that shit to threads I'm interested in is to derail them and then bait the janitor into carpet-banning the thread.

Which happens a bunch because the Janny has an IQ of chewing gum, and the original troll/bot ban evades and does it all over again.
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>>8384
>Ate another 3-day ban from a 4Cuck jannigger for addressing political shills in what was obviously a political shitflinging thread.
This has happened to me enough times that I've just stopped replying to political topics altogether on /v/. Which is some bullshit because people still post them all the fucking time.

>Blanc doesn't really seem to try to "overcompensate"
In 4GO she admits that she typically makes her characters with very large chests, and that she only held back in that game because she knew she'd be playing with the other goddesses and they'd never let her hear the end of it. Even then her chest size is still slightly bigger ingame than IRL. I suspect Blanc knows full well she'd be called out if she tried overcompensating at all.

My reply didn't get lost, did it?
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>>8383
It absolutely would, though going too far would end up being a negative. On that note, did you have anything specific in mind?
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>>8385
This is the post I got banned for.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/716352963/#716354418
For one, as you can see, this thread is nothing but political shitflinging, so it's awfully rich that my post is the only one banned for some reason. For two, the shitflinging in particular is DNC shills using this case to try and paint themselves as pro-anime/loli because blue states don't have age verification bills. This pisses me off to no end because I've dealt with at least a fucking decade of them and their subhuman footsoldiers shitting on the things I love, but they act like none of it counts because they don't pass heavy-handed legislation like establishment conservatives do. That is not their strategy, their strategy is the "long march" codified by activists in the 60s. They pressured and took over institutions and corporations on the ground and acted through them, not the government. Fuck you retards, I remember what you did to Senran Kagura after you pozzed Soyny! But now they're shilling themselves to weebs who don't know better. So I just called them out and told them in no uncertain terms that it was the insufferable gay race communism and open hatred of normal straight male sexuality that pushed weebs and normal people to the right and that it'll take more than just not having anti-porn/age verification bills for anyone to give them the time of day, knowing full well they're not going to repudiate what's been the core of their ideology for decades if not longer, but I just wanted to see them squirm because they know they've rightfully earned the contempt of everyone who isn't biotrash by being the party of subhumans tyrannizing everyone. No matter what team red does, pic related is eternal and they know it.
>>8384
You can kind of imagine why the goddesses picked the weapons they use.
>Neptune found the katana, plus she's a huge otaku so it's a good fit.
>Vert is a minmaxer, IRL spears are meta due to reach
>Noire wants to look cool ig?
>Blanc is strong and her consoles have a reputation for durability
>>8387
At least more refined rules so the stakes can feel well defined and real. Nothing too serious, just some more tension.
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>>8386
>In 4GO she admits that she typically makes her characters with very large chests, and that she only held back in that game because she knew she'd be playing with the other goddesses and they'd never let her hear the end of it.
So do you think she'd be less modest or even arrogant if she didn't have (or feel she has) the other goddesses constantly judging her? Blanc comes off as pretty modest to me, when she's not being provoked at least. I've said before that in all honesty she has plenty of things to flaunt at Vert in retaliation (and that Vert's constant prodding of her comes off as veiled jealousy to me), but she doesn't. Is it just because she feels too insecure to try?

>spoiler
The e-mail? It was the one from last Sunday, right? No, it's there. I don't expect such issues on my end. The whole issue seems to stem from Google not recognizing my e-mail as a "trusted provider", thus it's predisposed to treat all incoming messages from it as potential spam.
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>>8390
What I'm saying is I suspect she'd be more open to artificially boosting her self image if she thought she could get away with it. There's another drama CD where she's Nepgear's older sister. She's bothered enough by Nepgear being taller than her that she wears a tall chef's hat to compensate.

I know what the issue has been so far, but I got hit with a week long reminder and I didn't trust Google not to mishandle my reply somehow.
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>>8389
Fair, low stakes and tension is a problem a lot of media suffers from since you almost always know the good guys are going to win.
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janny only ever seems to ban from SK threads for telling resident schizos to fuck off but never seems to ban the resident schizo, so let's hear it for a new ID.
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>>8392
>since you almost always know the good guys are going to win
A lot of the interest comes from seeing the twists that come as a result of their actions. For example, newer TV shows here in America like Blue Ridge and Almost Paradise ride upon the same exact cliches you've seen for the past 40 years in everything from 80's TV like A-Team and The Incredible Hulk to series from little over a decade ago like Burn Notice and White Collar. However they're entertaining to watch because of seeing how the characters play off each other or what crazy antics they get up to.
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Honestly, I don't know why Histybro doesn't move or at least post here. The IFnigger has been harassing him constantly for the past few months. How does he put up with being called a pedophile over and over?

>>8391
That's a bit different than what I was thinking of, but I get it. It makes me want to imagine if it was her daughter instead. I think we touched on that last thread. I really ought to watch/listen to these drama CDs, but watching them on Youtube feels cheap for some reason, like I'm cheating. Why weren't these CDs included in any of the recent Re;Birth reissues, damn it!?

>>8393
>SK threads
Senran Kagura threads? Stop Killing Games threads? Or something else?
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>>8395
You'd be consuming them the same way I did. These drama CDs are in Japanese only, so watching fan translations on youtube really is the only way for gaijin like us. At least there were people around who could translate them.
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>>8395
>Senran Kagura threads? 
This one. I avoid the SKG threads because I'm aware most people are just there to troll from the 'ecker and are intentionally trying to get the thread carpet-banned. 
The SK one surprised me because it was me telling a very specific schizo to stop attempting to get the thread deleted by derailing into political garbage that SK is too dead to be a part of anyway.
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>>8394
>the past 40 years
I do not think I am ever going to get used to the 70s and 80s being fifty and forty years ago instead of thirty and twenty...
That aside though, I completely understand watching stuff for character interactions and antics, both tend to be what I want to see the most these days. When I still watched TV my favourite American show was Two & A Half Men as well, so I guess it was inevitable I was drawn to slice of life anime.
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A great horror game that I was playing got banned off Steam today. I can't even imagine what kind of chaos would unfold if a new Nep game came out right now with all its fanservice.
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>>8399
>A great horror game that I was playing got banned off Steam today
What game?
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>>8400
Vile: Exhumed. Ironically I only found it because it was banned and I got curious. It's just a found-footage point-and-click adventure. Nothing sexual in the game at all, only the implication that the psychopath is... a psychopath. You can still buy it off their site but that's a grim future where we're sending crypto to random wallets online to play video games because of content that's less extreme than the original Resident Evil.
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>>8402
>Nothing sexual in the game at all, only the implication that the psychopath is... a psychopath.
According to the dev, it is because of "sexual content": https://archive.ph/D4mIi
But who even know what that means anymore.
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>>8403
The dev says the ban is because of "sexual content", but there's nothing sexual in the game at all. It's about a psychopath stalker following this one woman around and the lengths he goes to in order to justify a parasocial relationship in his head. No sex, no romance, nothing. There is one implied rape scene that is never shown on-screen. Just a blurry video of him breaking into her house, and ending just after he opens her bedroom door. You don't even see her face. 

If the standard is now "Implied sexual content" then literally every game is at risk.
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>>8404
>literally every game
..Okay maybe not /literally/ every game, but you could use this backwards logic to get close to anything banned. Especially a game like Neptunia where the "Needs rape correction" meme came from.
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>>8405
>Especially a game like Neptunia where the "Needs rape correction" meme came from.
It did?
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>>8396
It still feels cheap to me. Those drama CDs are a collection of "special moments" with the goddesses. It doesn't feel right to watch them publicly with dozens of other people. I want to have them for myself. But I'm probably just being autistic, and as you said, they're not officially translated. I don't know why they're not. They've translated other supplemental material before, and I doubt these would cost much. Unless it's a VA problem. From what you've told me of her, I doubt Wendee Lee would take issue, but I don't know about the others. As I've said, the English VA/dubbing industry is rather sketchy in general and many of its members have displayed open ignorance or even contempt of the material they deal with. I'll forever remember when Skye Bennett (Pyra/Mythra's VA) grandstanded on Twitter about how problematic the Rex harem photo from Xenoblade 3 was and how Mythra was a totally stronk independent woman with skibidi sigma rizz who don't need no man and being in Rex's harem was somehow disrespectful to her, completely and utterly misinterpreting her entire character and arc, seriously I could not believe that a VA who voices the character could get her so fucking wrong. It completely destroyed any respect I had for her, and I wasn't even one of the ones who thought her voice work was bad.

>>8397
It wasn't LunaticSoda (AKA scribbleschizo) or maybe Boco the annoying tripfag who thinks Senran Kagura needs to be more normalfag-friendly? Those are the two problem posters that I've seen commonly shit up Senran threads on /v/. But from what you're describing, evidently SK threads now have a THIRD schizo that I'm not aware of.
>that SK is too dead to be a part of anyway.
With all this shit going on, though, I can't discount the possibility that the Senran games on Steam may get delisted. They're already rife with material that Steam would never accept past 2021.
>>8399
At this point, Compile Heart is probably going to have to adopt the "off-site patch/DLC" method to get the fanservice in at least the Steam/PC version. They'd have to stop being lazy, though, and actually make an effort to get the fanservice in instead of just neutering across the board like they've been. That hasn't been going well for them; more and more people are getting fed up with how tame their games are now. This new Neptunia mainline coming up is really the last card they have to play, so they NEED to make it count.
>>8406
No, Neptunia predates that meme by a decade. It came from Twitter, from a translated post by a Japanese lolicon artist called Dorontabi. The original tweet has long since been deleted as his accounts have been banned numerous times.
>>8407
>off-site patch/DLC
Do many Japanese players play these games on pc? I would assume most are still on PlayStation and I cannot imagine them giving us that content back but screwing over the players back home.
>actually make an effort to get the fanservice in
For what it is worth, I mentioned that foreign fans miss the light ecchi the series used to have in the questionnaire. Whether anyone else mentioned something along those lines or if themy actually start bringing it back is another thing though.
>Dorontabi
That lines up with what I know about the origin, I was thinking Ram could have been the cause if that anon was right. It could not really be anyone else if it was a Nep thing.
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Speaking of, Compile Heart made a Twitter account for the Neptunia 15th anniversary

https://xcancel.com/NepCompileHeart

Clearly they're planning something. They've already said that the new mainline will be announced this year. I think this is it, and if not, they're even more foolish than I thought possible.
>>8408
>Do many Japanese players play these games on pc? I would assume most are still on PlayStation
Japan has all but completely abandoned Fagstation, as GayBearStation has more or less abandoned them. Concurrent with AIDStation's decline, PC gaming has been growing rapidly over there. However, it still pales to the near complete stranglehold Nintendo now holds in Japan over all non-mobile phone gaming (read: gachashit). Blanc and Lowee stand triumphant at last, but at what cost? Anything that isn't a scrimblo bimblo or backed by a big publisher is getting blocked from western releases on Switch, and all three of the Re;Birth games fell victim to this last year. Even Neptunia Riders with a fucking E10 rating (lowest in the franchise) couldn't escape censorship on Switch. Posts by other publishers who have had run into issues indicate Nintendo's problem is not merely the ecchi, but the very character designs themselves. So it's safe to say Neptunia is basically soft-banned from Nintendo consoles, which is why they're refocusing on Playstation and PC, and those are the two platforms I think the new mainline will release on.
>I was thinking Ram could have been the cause if that anon was right. It could not really be anyone else if it was a Nep thing.
It was not a Nep thing. He was reacting to a completely different character, I think maybe some Idolm@ster character.
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>>8409
No mention of any new game(s) yet, just the questionnaire, that video and the figure stuff.
>PC gaming has been growing rapidly over there.
Honestly quite surprising but a pleasant one. Hopefully there are enough players for them to release the new game on pc, would be nice having JP Nep without having to emulate it.
Shame Nintendo are still big there but I cannot imagine them going down in any market any time soon.
>E10
What are Neptune games usually rated in the US? Most, if not all of them in the UK are 12, at least out of the ones I own. I would have to check that bike one. I wonder if it was rated lower in Japan as well.
What can you even censor in an anime styled bike game anyway? Do you know if this is this a similar case to SvS' post release censorship or is it more than names?
>some Idolm@ster character.
Probably Miria, I seem to remember him being quite into her.
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>>8410
>Shame Nintendo are still big there
Hey, you're talking to someone who was a staunch loyalist for twenty years.
>What are Neptune games usually rated in the US?
T/Teen.
>What can you even censor in an anime styled bike game anyway?
The whole swimsuit set DLC got canned from the western Switch version. Pics related. Same reason was given as for the Re;Birth bans, "does not comply with Nintendo guidelines", so yes, Nintendo is literally banning bikinis now if the characters are "underage-coded".
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>>8411
What was it that kept you that loyal for so long? Twenty years is a lot of time. Was there really nothing that made you think it was not worth sticking around before "recent" events and policy changes?
>swimsuits
I should have expected that, these are not worth censoring at all but then I am not of the same mindset as those implementing these bans, so I never would see any issue with them outside of personal preference. It is weird that Vert is covering up her chest though.
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Is Nepgear around in games after SvS? If so did they bring her stripes back or is she going pure white again? Was that an oversight? Not sure how that got missed.
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>>8413
I've heard so many people mention that. TBH I'm ok with Nepgear owning more than one pair of underwear. But you'll be pleased to know her shimapan are back in GMRE
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>>8407
I feel like if they don't want to do them because then they'd have people asking questions about the other ones.
There's some which aren't at all fanservicey (or at least, not in an intimate fashion) but stories like Hot Spring murder mystery or the ones where the sisters get mixed up. I believe the anime even contains a prequel to itself which would be really great to see because I want to see more of the CPU's early days.
>>8414
I can only speak for myself but I would honestly not mind if she had a new outfit or was wearing Blanc or Noire's outfit. That said, I prefer her in her current stripes.
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>>8416
What is the reason why Nepgear changes her underwear occasionally? The world may never know.
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>>8417
That only makes me want to know more. Does the same apply to Neptune's underwear as well? Assuming they are actually missing in this, I would very much like to see what she is hiding. That cute embarrassed face is far too enticing. Though even if they are not missing I still want to see...
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>>8418
Neptune has a huge closet full of striped stockings and shimapan
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>>8419
I was asking about its holy status in Planeptune but good to know Neptune likes them as much as I do.
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>>8420
Well there's apparently a museum where stuff like spoons and tissues used by Blanc and the twins are kept as relics, so yes.
I like to keep a monopoly on Neptune pantsu however.
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>>8421
So do people sneak in then? I cannot imagine Blanc or either twin being up for that arrangement at all lol
I am very curious about how that even came to be.
>I like to keep a monopoly on Neptune pantsu
Unfortunate for me but completely understandable.
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>>8412
For all my life I've pretty much only gamed on Nintendo consoles. When I was very young I had a SNES and a Playstation but I lost both of them. One time, my dad's cousin brought in a Nintendo 64 and gave it to us along with a bunch of games. I played Super Mario 64 and Banjo Tooie and was hooked. I got a Gamecube with Super Mario Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion and Taz Wanted soon after that. From that point on, aside from a few exceptions, I played mostly Nintendo (first-party) games. It took until the 3DS for me to start getting interested in branching out to third-parties and that's when I got into anime-style "otaku" games after enjoying Fire Emblem Awakening and deciding to pick a few similar-looking games from Gamestop, those being Tales of the Abyss, Lord of Magna Maiden Heaven, and I think one or two others. But I credit Stella Glow with really selling me on the whole thing. I still hold that game in high regard, it charmed me in a way I didn't think it would. I immediately went and got the Luminous Arc games after it too. Imageepoch were real ones, and I miss them.
Anyway, so after I became a weeb gamer and was now actively looking for such games, two things happened just at the right time; the Switch, and Soyny shooting themselves in the foot and driving a significant migration of anime and otaku-style games to the Switch. On top of Nintendo being happy to provide themselves with Xenoblade 2, which to this day is a serious contender for my favorite game ever, and Fire Emblem Three Houses which completely satisfied my desire for both Fire Emblem and anime-style stories and character drama, on top of all the other first-party offerings like a new 3D Mario and Kirby and a new 2D Metroid. I literally could not ask for much more, Nintendo with the Switch had provided me basically everything I could have wanted. Why would I ever consider anything else? 
...Well, unless Nintendo began to actively repudiate and destroy those same things around me. Xenoblade 3 presented clear signs of DEI infection which put me off of it, such as a conspicuously increased amount of brownskins including one in the main cast, and obvious desexualization of the characters, especially compared to 2, but even compare to 1. Fire Emblem Engage was utterly butchered by Treehouse which me off from it as well. Then Mario's longtime VA was replaced by a random pronounfag from Xitter. The whole situation stunk to me, and it got worse when Daisy's new VA was announced as a "non-binary" fag. Then the Paper Mario TTYD remake trooned out Vivian. And yet I was willing to overlook all of this if the first-party games were still reasonably good and not super-pozzed like Soyny's and if they continued letting me have my weeb games from other devs. And then they dropped the bombshell on me with the Re;Birth bans and the censorship of Tokyo Clanpool, both of which were among my most anticipated games of 2024. At that point, the betrayal was complete and total. I now understood exactly how otaku PSfags felt in 2018. And after harshly judging Sony for their actions, I was not about to give Nintendo a pass for the same. Especially as they explicitly stated they wouldn't do the very thing they're doing now in 2019. So I've refused to buy a Switch 2 and will likely settle on the Switch as my last Nintendo console.
>>8413
I think they put her stripes back in the Switch version of SvS. It may have been an oversight, it may have been Snoy (as stupid as that sounds). But she's also in Game;Maker. As far as I know, she's not in Neptunia Riders, though.
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>>8412
>Was there really nothing that made you think it was not worth sticking around before "recent" events and policy changes?
most of their consoles, switch and arguably switch 2 included, all have a diverse library of pretty fun games, i don't see why the thought of someone sticking to nintendo stuff, especially the handhelds, would be so unbelievable...
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>>8423
>but I lost both of them.
Sad times.
That aside though it does make sense that you stuck around for so long, not much reason to go looking elsewhere if you are consistently content with what you have been given over a long period of time.
>brownskins
I must admit, it makes me chuckle when you say stuff like this but given the reason why it is done I do understand the dislike, dare I say disdain?
>utterly butchered by Treehouse
Going off of what I know of their "work" on Fire Emblem it is safe to assume they ruin everything they touch, I know every Fire Emblem game they had their filthy hands on is ruined if nothing else. To be fair though, as far as I have seen, Nintendo localisation was always shit, just for different reasons back then.
>And yet I was willing to overlook all of this
You were more patient than I would have been in that situation. The voice changes would have been negatives, especially given the politics behind them but I probably could have tolerated that. An established character becoming mentally ill like that though is where I bow out no matter what.
>I've refused to buy a Switch 2
It is a shame the number of people that are willing to do so is as small as it is. I doubt it will make much of a difference to them, at least not any time soon. I know at least two people that bought one.
>it may have been Snoy
I had considered it too to be honest but if it was them, would they even allow pantyshots at all? You can still look up the rest of them and quite easily at that.

>>8424
It is not that it was unbelievable, I was just curious about it. Nintendo were barely a speck on my radar for a long time. I had a GBA SP for some time but no first party games, it was all third party stuff.
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>>8407
>It still feels cheap to me. Those drama CDs are a collection of "special moments" with the goddesses. It doesn't feel right to watch them publicly with dozens of other people
Don't look at the comments. Don't think about it. That's a mindset you're choosing to have. Put on some headphones, focus on the subtitles, trust me, it'll feel very private. The CDs are purposefully designed to sound close and intimate.
>They've translated other supplemental material before
All I can recall is the anime and one artbook that saw a relatively limited release. The TV series' translation was done when NISA still had the license. Under IFI, the OVAs have all been sub only with super limited releases. Like being available for only a few days on Steam or some stupid shit like that. Oh, right, I guess there's the Nep & Friends app, too, but that was abandoned real quick. Most of the other supplementary material in this franchise had to be fan translated. The manga, the light novels, the drama CDs, etc. There's a whole lot of content we'd never see if not for the efforts of passionate fans.
>I'll forever remember when Skye Bennett (Pyra/Mythra's VA) grandstanded on Twitter about how problematic the Rex harem photo from Xenoblade 3 was
Forgive me for going there, but if you really care about the girls then there's reason to be bothered by the harem picture. There was a Nia waifufag that was completely broken by that reveal. And it's put the fear in me that one day CH might pull a stunt like that somehow since they love to use controversy to generate buzz when they think they can get away with it.

I mean, okay, I'm sure Pyra/Mythra's VA honestly didn't give a shit about the characters and I'm just rambling here.

>>8423
Getting into otaku oriented stuff came really natural to me. At one point I realized Japanese media had permeated my life since early childhood. ESPECIALLY with video games. Sure I've played stuff like Doom, Mortal Kombat, or Shaq Fu, but the vast majority of games I played growing up came from Japan and I find that I overwhelmingly prefer games from Japan.
>Then the Paper Mario TTYD remake trooned out Vivian
Vivian was always a trap in the Japanese script, any excuse is a cope. Treehouse still butchered it, of course. By boiling it down to one throwaway line that just happens to destroy her entire character arc. All they had to do was make the villain character Beldam say mean and disparaging shit about Vivian being a boy. But I guess that'd be too real for trannies.
>So I've refused to buy a Switch 2 and will likely settle on the Switch as my last Nintendo console.
Buy used. DKB was great, and if that's any indicator then Switch 2 will have some amazing exclusives. Just buy used. You won't be financially supporting the censors that way.
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>>8423
>And then they dropped the bombshell on me with the Re;Birth bans and the censorship of Tokyo Clanpool, both of which were among my most anticipated games of 2024. At that point, the betrayal was complete and total. I now understood exactly how otaku PSfags felt in 2018. And after harshly judging Sony for their actions, I was not about to give Nintendo a pass for the same. Especially as they explicitly stated they wouldn't do the very thing they're doing now in 2019. So I've refused to buy a Switch 2 and will likely settle on the Switch as my last Nintendo console.
The "final betrayal" for me was Xenoblade X back in 2016. After everything that went down with the Wii U and 3DS, seeing that happened with TMS#FE and FF5 and Devil's Third on the former system, then Three Houses and Bravely Default on the latter, the topper of Treehouse effectively lying and making far more extensive censorship changes than they had originally declared for XCX was the part where I lost interest in ever wishing to support Nintendo ever again.

>>8425
>It is a shame the number of people that are willing to do so is as small as it is.
Don't count anything out yet. As some people noted, the Wii U was selling out just before the Bloodborne Machine hit the shelves.

>>8426
>Just buy used. You won't be financially supporting the censors that way.
It sort of does because it shows that there is demand for the system.
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>>8427
>...then Three Houses and Bravely Default on the latter...
Excuse me, I meant FE Fates.
>>8384
>unironic angry sperg
<she's so modest!
Love really does blind a person
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>>8427
>Don't count anything out yet. As some people noted, the Wii U was selling out just before the Bloodborne Machine hit the shelves.
People are still clinging to this cope? Wii U sales fell off immediately after its first quarter on the market. PS4 didn't release until about a full year after the Wii U's launch. The Switch 2 has absolutely blown past the Wii U's first quarter sales and they remain strong so far. It's got two killer apps under its belt already. Even if interest starts to wane, we're not going to see another Wii U situation because Nintendo won't have to choose between two platforms to prop up. They'll give the Switch 2 their full focus. At the very worst it'll be another 3DS, but given how it's going right now that's extremely unlikely.

>It sort of does because it shows that there is demand for the system.
Talking out your ass. No one's gonna rush out and buy more Switch 2s or Switch 2 games just to sell them on the used market for less than they paid lol now if he started paying for the online service with it, that's a different story, but I assume he has little interest in any of that.

Besides, if he does go the used route, he'd be better off waiting a few years for the platform to mature and accrue some exclusives.
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>>8430
>The Switch 2 has absolutely blown past the Wii U's first quarter sales
How many territories did the Switch 2 launch in compared to the Wii U and the 3DS? Or even the original Switch, which took almost three years before it even reached regions like West Taiwan, Malaysia, and Brazil.
>No one's gonna rush out and buy more Switch 2s or Switch 2 games just to sell them on the used market for less
That's exactly what people do. That's how places like GameStop built their entire business model. New game comes out, people rush to buy it (And a console if they don't have it), beat the game or get tired of it, return the game (And sometimes the console) in exchange for some money back, then repeat the process all over again for the next "big hit".
>Besides, if he does go the used route, he'd be better off waiting a few years for the platform to mature and accrue some exclusives.
At that point, just advise him to wait until Nintendo releases the Switch 3 six or seven years down the line, then buy up the Switch 2 and all of it's "best" games on the cheap. I mean if the argument is that these games absolutely are "Must Plays" they're still going to be as good seven years down the road as they are today. No need to rush the process. Especially when you could be spending that time playing all the other exciting games that you missed out on.
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>>8431
>How many territories did the Switch 2 launch in compared to the Wii U and the 3DS? Or even the original Switch, which took almost three years before it even reached regions like West Taiwan, Malaysia, and Brazil.
I don't know for sure, but I do know with certainty that it doesn't matter. Because the main markets: North America, Europe, Australia, and Japan, all of them surpassed their respective launch sales for the Wii U. Switch as well, if I'm not mistaken. It's one of the most wildly successful hardware launches ever so far, and you're seriously trying to cling to the cope that it'll magically turn into another Wii U? Get real.
>That's exactly what people do.
No, it's not. Take it from someone who's lived in the trade-in life, you're not going to be buying brand fucking new game consoles regularly to feed your trade-in habit. You keep the hardware unless you're such a poorfag that you have to sell or pawn your shit regularly and it's just the software you're trading around. Even then you're not buying any more than what you already would have, you're not buying new games at every opportunity just to dump in them in the used market, in fact the trade-in life encourages you to buy used more because you'll save some money. The trade-in value will be the same regardless. The industry itself even views the used market as adversarial. They've been trying to kill it for decades with things like online passcodes packed in with retail games, the Xbone's infamous DRM, or even just the general push towards digital distribution. So no, buying used does not support the censors. It actually makes them quite booty blasted.
>At that point, just advise him to wait until Nintendo releases the Switch 3 six or seven years down the line, then buy up the Switch 2 and all of it's "best" games on the cheap.
Sure, they can do that, too. Depends on how long they wanna wait. I'm pretty confident that DKB will still be a pretty fucking good game 7 years from now.
>Especially when you could be spending that time playing all the other exciting games that you missed out on.
Some of those are already priced way out of reason, sadly. Hell, even certain Switch 1 games are priced ridiculously. I can't believe people are still asking well over $200 for Shantae and the Pirate's Curse. It's a great game and all but it's been released so many times...
>>8427
>the Wii U was selling out just before the Bloodborne Machine
I get the feeling the Switch 2 is a lot more popular than the Wii U ever was. It would be a nice surprise if it failed but I cannot really see it happening. Will gladly eat my words if it does though.
That new Neptune account just retweeted this White Heart clip, no idea if you guys are following either account so here you go;

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>>8407
>It wasn't LunaticSoda (AKA scribbleschizo) or maybe Boco the annoying tripfag who thinks Senran Kagura needs to be more normalfag-friendly? Those are the two problem posters that I've seen commonly shit up Senran threads on /v/. But from what you're describing, evidently SK threads now have a THIRD schizo that I'm not aware of.
It actually wasn't either, I've learned to tune that stuff out. (Though, I didn't know scribbleschizo had a name until just now). It was people trying to turn it into another Visa/Mastercard thread and thus inundate it with ((( them )))posting to get the thread deleted. It was clearly being done to make the thread off-topic and succeeded extremely well. 

Wish I could link the post, but the janny didn't even link my post so idgaf anymore. Just more chances to make more Nep and SK threads that maybe won't have schizos in them.
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Also I've had intense anxiety about the internet ID law shit even though I don't live where it's been currently passed, and I have the knowledge to evade all associated blocks and bans for effectively free. It's the thought of losing the cleartext internet that bothers me the most and the realization that all of the things I consumed once and discarded, thinking I could find them again if needed, are effectively gone or are being taken away and I am in no position to start saving it all now.

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>>8434
It's a combination alarm clock/Nep news tracker? The News portion must be pretty barren unless it's also flooded with things like limited-time cafes.
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>>8441
>I am in no position to start saving it all now.
I can unfortunately relate.
>It's a combination alarm clock/Nep news tracker?
The Compile Heart application? It is more of an alarm clock than anything else. It comes with a card minigame and a few lines of dialogue and outfits for the main Neps + Ai chan & Compa, Tiara from Fairy Fencer and some chick from Trillion and Moero Chronicle I think.
I did not really pay attention to the news when I used to use it, so take this with a grain of salt but I am pretty sure the updates were mostly for the app.
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>>8444
So it's a video of the old Alarm clock?
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>>8445
No, just the main page with White Heart selected. They have specific lines for the alarm. This was just advertising the new White Heart swimsuit with one of what I assume are the purchaseable lines for her. I do not have any of the transformed versions so I could not say. I cannot even preview anything besides outfits for them if I remember right.
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>>8426
>Put on some headphones, focus on the subtitles, trust me, it'll feel very private. The CDs are purposefully designed to sound close and intimate.
That seems like cope, but I guess it'll have to do. As you said, not like I have any better options.
>Under IFI, the OVAs have all been sub only with super limited releases. Like being available for only a few days on Steam or some stupid shit like that
Then there's no reason they can't sub these drama CDs and sell them  on their website or bundle them with one of these Re;Birth rereleases, isn't there?
>Forgive me for going there, but if you really care about the girls then there's reason to be bothered by the harem picture. There was a Nia waifufag that was completely broken by that reveal.
I'm aware of him. I've been lurking those threads for a while now. I sympathize, but while I would not say any of Pyra, Mythra or Nia were ever really in the running for my waifu (this is hardly to say I don't like them, though. I'm rather fond of Mythra and Nia), if I did, I'd probably just self-insert as Rex. I don't view it as that different from, say, Jack in Mary Skelter and how he can romance and marry any of the 10 original Blood Maidens. I might be a bit bothered by the other two girls intruding, though. Obviously, the way it would likely be done in Neptunia (through Player-san who is actually, literally you) is much more intimate, but I'm saying I don't generally have problems just self-inserting through game protagonists when it comes to waifuism.
>spoiler
I may be optimistic, but I don't think there's much, if any chance of this. If they were to do this, it would be through canonizing some yuri ship or multiple ships. Thing is, almost all of the yurifags already jumped ship from Neptunia and the yuribaiting has steadily decreased over time. Blanc has also made it pretty clear her interests are only in men. Neptunia is basically subsisting on waifufags nowadays, just look at /nepgen/ and how most regular posters are some form of waifufag. To pull a stunt like that would utterly destroy what's left of their base and they can't afford that, least of all now.

>Vivian was always a trap in the Japanese script
I know that, but the remake rewrote the lines to more obviously imply trannyism. Disgustingly enough, they did this under the guise of being "truer to the original", even though it could hardly be further, and almost nothing in the game's localization is true to the original, either. In fact, I think the original localization was actually more accurate in several aspects. Rewriting Vivian as a tranny was clearly politically motivated, and the cherry on the shit sundae was that the guy who apparently pushed the hardest for it was a literal furry diaperfag.
>Buy used. DKB was great, and if that's any indicator then Switch 2 will have some amazing exclusives. Just buy used. You won't be financially supporting the censors that way.
I don't think I'm ready to even consider this. Frankly, at the moment, it's hard to even look at my Switch, let alone play it after everything that's happened. I had such high hopes for Nintendo and their future. And I really, genuinely thought that the Switch 2 was going to be the golden ticket for the damage Sony did to the Japanese anime game industry to start being undone.
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>>8422
 That kind of thing will happen. Eat at a restaurant, the server pockets the utensil the goddess used and keeps it as a treasured heirloom or, if they really need the cash, they sell it. But the reverence is strong enough I think most people would keep it.
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>>8447
>That seems like cope
I don't think so. I think it's weird to think about the other people who have seen a video upload. People you will never interact with. Although I guess that's not 100% true if you watch the same ones I did... but it's still not something to even think about, because you're just engaging with the recording.
>Then there's no reason they can't sub these drama CDs and sell them  on their website or bundle them with one of these Re;Birth rereleases, isn't there?
IFI are cheap bastards as they've shown repeatedly. All the figures they sell are on ridiculous markup btw.
>I'd probably just self-insert as Rex
It's strange to me that you say focusing on the drama CDs sounds like cope, but this doesn't sound like cope at all. I mean, I'm not going to disparage those who can self insert into a well established character... but I have difficulty in that regard.
>spoiler 2
You don't mean Otsuu and Mermaid, do you? Because they're pretty much just for each other as far as I know.
>Obviously, the way it would likely be done in Neptunia (through Player-san who is actually, literally you)
My (irrational) fear is that it'd be done in any way but this. Like say if Umio became the harem protagonist, or god forbid... I cannot remember the name of that company, but there was one developer in Japan who decided to turn their very vanilla eroge series into NTR. The only good thing I can say about the incident is that it pissed off the fans so much it killed the company. Fucking deserved. But I just don't trust a company like Compile Heart with such a fascination for bad endings to not pull a stunt like that if they find that Neptunia is on the way out anyways.

>I know that, but the remake rewrote the lines to more obviously imply trannyism.
One line. Literally one line. Which makes no sense whatsoever. It's worded in such a milquetoast way it actually makes more sense to think maybe she's not a tranny but just an idiot who didn't realize what defined boys and girls until someone explained it to her. The entire trap/tranny aspect falls apart without Beldam disparaging her over it, and of course localizer trannies couldn't have that. It'd be too real for them. And give someone for normal people to rally behind. :^)
>almost nothing in the game's localization is true to the original, either. In fact, I think the original localization was actually more accurate in several aspects.
Such as? The only other egregious change I can recall are the cat calling goombas in the sewers. Pretty lame change but most of the game's charm remains intact. I enjoyed the remake a ton.
>I don't think I'm ready to even consider this. Frankly, at the moment, it's hard to even look at my Switch, let alone play it after everything that's happened.
That's perfectly fair. You have to grieve and adapt at your own pace, in your own way. Just remember you have options to not miss out if it ever bothers you.
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>>8448
I cannot imagine many people selling stuff like that either, given how citizens tend to be written. I recently saw the museum npcs too, they are not the type.
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>>8449
The script for TTYD Switch remake was changed in BOTH the Japanese and English versions, and it's not just Vivian's dialogue that was changed (Which vid related goes over). Here's someone covering a short list of it: https://archive.ph/jmpmW
>Tons of lines that could even slightly be construed as being sexist, homophobic, or shaming of fat or mentally ill people have been sanitized. Some examples off the top of my head:
<Goombas in underground no longer catcall Goombella
<all references to characters being "crazy", "lunatics", "nuts", etc. are rewritten
<Jerry the Bob-omb from Luigi's story is no longer disgusted by Luigi's crossdressing
<Peach no longer says she should "act more like a princess"
>...
>I noticed at the end of Chapter 1, Koops doesn't say, "We were all worried about you dad. We thought your game was over!".
>Instead he says the same thing but not the game over part/pun. I noticed that immediately.
>...
>And from watching the both of them side by side, I'm noticing Koops' dad says something completely new that wasn't in the Gamecube version. In the Switch version he said he was tricked into smelling Hooktail's feet and was trapped in her belly ever since while in Gamecube version he just said he was tricked, no details on how he was tricked.
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>>8451
>And from watching the both of them side by side, I'm noticing Koops' dad says something completely new that wasn't in the Gamecube version. In the Switch version he said he was tricked into smelling Hooktail's feet and was trapped in her belly ever since while in Gamecube version he just said he was tricked, no details on how he was tricked.
I would call this one a positive change since it calls back to dialogue during the Hooktail fight and shows that Koops' dad is enough of a weirdo to have fallen for it. Unless foot fetishism is common among koopas, which would be very strange in of itself.
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>>8449
Need a maidtunia game.
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>>8453
What would you even do in something like that?
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>>8454
Make it the dating/marriage sim that some of us want.
>you are the newly wealthy player-san
>you've hired a bunch of goddess maids that's how rich you are
>although for the goddesses in your staff all that really entails is just wearing a uniform and hanging out in your mansion while otherwise doing what they want
>maker characters more subservient
>also a murder mystery involving faceless NPCs just to give the whole thing a plot
>dating mechanics with the maids, marry your favorite at the end
It would fulfill both my desires to marry Blanc in-game AND see her wear a maid uniform.
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>>8455
You had me at dating sim. Still baffled that they decided not to do one for the rest of the goddesses after Noire's game.
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I would make my maids play video games with me
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Now somehow I got banned from 8Chan /v/ for being "GCfag". I literally don't even know who that is. This just off the heels of an IP range block for a day on 4cuck too. God damn it!
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>>8457
I doubt you would need to make these maids play video games, Neptune especially.
>>8458
You know, I got that too at one time.   It was only a two-day though.
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>>8458
>Now somehow I got banned from 8Chan /v/ for being "GCfag". I literally don't even know who that is.
>>8460
>You know, I got that too at one time.
Yeah, that would be me. If you wish to read about all the grievances the Cakelord has with your's truly, I suggest your examine the post provided here: https://archive.ph/CI9PT#140
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>>8461
>He apparently also shat on Nintendo, so Mark had him pegged as someone with an agenda to shit up the entire board with anti-nintendo posts, and deletes anything he thinks is GCfag as "spam" under the pretense of "preventing console war faggotry". This combined with Mark being a Nintendrone is the root cause of why anon was banned for talking about modern Nintendo censorship, why I was banned for talking about even slightly negatively about some features of a Nintendo emulator, and now why censorship discussion in general is prone to deletion as it's been "associated" with "GCfag behaviours".
Wow what a fucking loser, and this is the guy in charge of the *more free* halfchan? He'd be a schizo on any other board.
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Mark has always been a manchild who uses convenient boogeymen to censor on a whim, there were just certain periods of time where his autism wasn't flaring up as bad as it could be, since the Switch 2 was recently released, he's probably going to stay like this for the better part of a year.
well Gog is claiming to be anti censorship you think they will stick to it this time it would be great to see compile pull up from the nose dive they have been on since they started toneing down there games, also why is the reply box putting the text white on white i can to write this in note pad and copy it over?
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>>8464
They CLAIM to be anti-censorship, but remember what happened to Evenicle 2.

Also I'm not having that problem, but I keep this page open for days at a time.
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>>8465
>Also I'm not having that problem, but I keep this page open for days at a time.

Oh don't i know it gog do this all the time say something good then back down, they don't even have the balls to put say it on galaxy or the sites front page between this and the uk's online safety act I am getting very very fed up, I did fix the text colour i just have to view the site from the onion address for some reason.
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>>8464
I doubt it, it's just not worth for them to fight over games "nobody cares about". Maybe they'll let one or two slip by while it's convenient but then it will be back to business as usual.
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>>8466
Oh yeah, this has given me a ton of anxiety as well. Not just because of the concept of lewd games vanishing or even porn or even NSFW but because I can see the days of needing 3 forms of ID just to visit even this site looming on the horizon. It would just take a more willing group of bank onaholes to make it happen.

I could see a world in the near future where even posting this picture here gets logged past this site, past an online ID, and is logged as public knowledge to every public record with your face on it. Which I believe is the actual aim all along: make the private life of the internet into a life more public than your actual public life which at least has something resembling legal rights.
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>>8467
And realistically it's just this, notice that it's all a bunch of things that you can find on F95 with the devs posting about it because they, themselves, are just happy for any kind of publicity? It's an easy slam-dunk for GoG and for the people who get paid in Patreon exposure. Not to say it isn't important but it's not really a groundbreaking blow to the credit card companies as long as they still have crowdfunding.
I wonder how well a Drama-CD-turned-into-a-game dating sim would sell.
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>>8470
>I wonder how well a Drama-CD-turned-into-a-game dating sim would sell.
If they bring back the fanservice that made the early games sell so well, Very.
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>>8471
Dating sim mechanics are arguably a form of fanservice themselves.
>>8471
As much as I want it to sell well, I'm afraid there are not many Neptunia fans left to service in the first place, so my sights are set low and my predictions are rather pessimistic... if they did release it, though, I'd definitely try and find a way to pay for it with as little store fees as possible to support CH more.
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>>8462
Well, that's interesting. It is absolutely clear to me that video game graphical progression stagnated after the sixth and seventh generations. It's why I never put much stock in the people saying Nintendo needed to be competitive with Soyny in the graphics department. The Switch touts around PS3-level processing power, and the Switch 2 close to PS4, and Sony themselves have hardly progressed past those two eras. They were touting the PS5 Pro as some sort of major upgrade when the difference is hardly noticeable. Yet video game software sizes keep increasing and software becoming more bloated, forcing hardware developers to put out hardware to keep up, and this feeds a self-perpetuating cycle. I'm reminded of Starfield and its credits consisting almost entirely of outsourced pajeet software teams, and I think this is the root of the issue; all the competent nerdy white guys with coding skills got pushed out of the industry by HR suits and DEI initiatives, and now the industry is facing a massive competency crisis.
But I digress. It's funny to me that they apparently mistook me for you. Pic related is the post that got me banned. As you can see, it has nothing to do with any discussion of graphics. It seems they just associate you with "console warring" (I.E., shitting on Nintendo) and because my post had images and discussion of games banned/censored by Nintendo, someone got triggered. They've deleted my posts in the past for the same thing, and it made me generally avoid 8/v/ for a while. They got a thread going about the recent fiasco with VISA and Mastercard, and I figured I'd pitch in. I made several posts in the thread before this one, but whatever. I guess I'm "GCfag" now. Well, I was really big on the Gamecube and its games back as a kid/teen. Never thought I of all people would ever be "disciplined" for criticizing Nintendo.
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>>8473
>As much as I want it to sell well, I'm afraid there are not many Neptunia fans left to service in the first place, so my sights are set low and my predictions are rather pessimistic... if they did release it, though, I'd definitely try and find a way to pay for it with as little store fees as possible to support CH more.
If they went all in with toutching mechanics and lewd unlockable outfits i think they could get a very healthy sales number it would not be to the level the games sold in it's hayday their is a large amount of trust to regain befor that can happen but it would be the first steps to recovery.
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>>8434
I don't "follow" it since I don't have a Xitter account, but I am aware of it and the outfits (Blanc's at least). The sailor swimsuit is cute. If I had to pick an outfit out that I particularly like from it, I might say I really like this one (pic related). It's such a beautiful Japanese-style dress, it reminds me of her Ultradimension getup, especially the geta and the way her toes are visible through her socks/leggings. Also, her expression here is absolutely adorable. I always complain that these outfits never seem to make their way to the actual games. Alas, I don't use my phone for very much, I actively try to use it as little as possible because I hate how addicted a lot of this generation are to their phones, and besides, the English version of the app is abandoned and unfinished. A shame, I would like to have Blanc as a wake-up alarm.
>>8444
>It comes with a card minigame and a few lines of dialogue and outfits for the main Neps + Ai chan & Compa, Tiara from Fairy Fencer and some chick from Trillion and Moero Chronicle I think.
Another unexpected addition is Natsume Kannuki from Tokyo Clanpool. Was TC popular in Japan, I wonder? Makes it even more of a shame what happened to her game's eventual western English release.
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>>8474
>Well, I was really big on the Gamecube and its games back as a kid/teen.
I actually still play my GC to this day. And even tend to go out of my way to pick up the GC version of games over the PS2 and PC versions.
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>Never thought I of all people would ever be "disciplined" for criticizing Nintendo.
Genuinely I don't understand what has come over the internet or video games in general when it comes to occult behavior over plastic toys. It's way worse now than I remember it ever being during the Playstation/Xbox peak of console warring. This was when entire communities would ban you for criticizing Kaz Hirai. I would say it's worse now than even then. 

Strange state of affairs. It may be no more complex than the world simply being more stressful and people being more vicious over what little escape from it they have. The time around the 2008 crash had similar levels of vehement behavior around companies instead of enjoyment.

>>8476
Agreed on the sailor swimsuit, this comes from a well-fit bikini enjoyer.
>>8476
Women in outfits inspired by traditional Japanese clothes are always nice to see, yeah.
It is weird that none of these outfits ever got added to the games, seems like easy dlc sales to me. Outside of using mine as a second screen of sorts and for Japanese practice, I do not use my phone much either, no reason to. The CH application gave me one but it barely works on my phone now.
>the English version of the app is abandoned and unfinished
Was there even an English one on android? As far as I knew it only ever released on Apple devices.
>Natsume Kannuki
Turns out she was who I was thinking of and got things mixed up. The pink haired girl was Lilia from Moero Chronicle.
>Was TC popular in Japan, I wonder?
I could not say, I was only ever around for Neptune and never paid their other stuff much mind. What happened to the English version? Loads of censorship pre-release and an eventual cancellation?
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>I don't think so. I think it's weird to think about the other people who have seen a video upload. People you will never interact with
They're meant to be personal. Recordings of personal moments with the goddesses. And I feel it's not quite as personal if I'm not holding the recordings in my hands. You probably just don't get it.
>IFI are cheap bastards as they've shown repeatedly. All the figures they sell are on ridiculous markup btw.
Good thing I (almost) never buy figures then. Speaking of, you know a Chaos Purple Heart figure is being made? It almost blows my mind they're even still acknowledging the Chaos forms, let alone doing scale figures of them. You think a Chaos White Heart figure will come down the line? I might break and buy another figure if that happens. Honestly, the Chaos forms are a major source of curiosity in the fandom because there's so little information available on them. I wish they'd do something with them in a proper game already.
>You don't mean Otsuu and Mermaid, do you?
No, I meant the other two girls of Rex's harem in that case.
>My (irrational) fear is that it'd be done in any way but this
I'm not too worried. Neptunia by its nature tends to avoid going too far in either direction towards waifubaiting or yuribaiting so it can try and pull both. A lot of moe-flavored franchises with all-girl casts tend to do this. It unfortunately means that all waifu-pandering will likely remain restricted to supplemental material as it has been, but it at least means there is a sort of inherent safeguard against such a nightmare scenario.
I still wish a mainline or a game on par with a mainline would implement such or similar mechanics. I'll explain eventually when I describe my dream Neptunia game.

>Such as?
Changing Bowser's "AIRHEAD" to "LUNKHEAD" (what, is that even a word?) like he said a slur on par with nigger or something. Another instance where he says something along the lines of "the silent type has its perks too. I could get used to this." while mistaking that Koopa's Peach poster for the real deal. Completely removed in the new lolcalization because wanting women to stay quiet is muh soggy knees or something.
>>8455
I am not really that into maids or the associated fetishism that is quite prominent among otakus, but I would 100% play this just for the chance to see and marry Blanc.
>>8464
Nope. Notice that only one of the games in the bundle is (possibly) Japanese. The rest are all crappy WEGs. Someone said House Party is at least really funny. Eastasiasoft have also been very clear that GOG refused to host an uncensored version of Tokyo Clanpool, and that's a Vita game. They're also just straight up refusing business now from Kagura Games who publish Japanese H-games. None of MangaGamer/Alicesoft's recent releases have made it on there either. I've called them on this in the forums, too; GOG's "anti-censorship" stance evidently does not apply when the games are Japanese. And even if they were willing to stick up for these games, GOG is too niche of a storefront to have any impact on Compile Heart's direction alone. It would have to be Steam at minimum, and likely Playstation as well; Compa is WAY too attached to them. 
>>8465
Evenicle 2 is still on there. I bought it just a few weeks ago. What are you talking about?
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>>8481
>You probably just don't get it.
Gonna invoke "no u" here, you're not supposed to think of them as recordings. They're scenes to immerse yourself in. They're talking directly to (You), as if right in the same room with you. That's how it's framed, even. There's a reason my big criticism is towards the "listener" character, because they are a stand-in for the listener, someone who can interact with and reply to the goddesses, and when they make an asshat out of themselves it takes me out of the experience, much more than not having a recording in hand ever would. Again, the drama CDs are to be immersed into.

I'm also a little shocked that you would even think I just don't get physical autism. Come on now, think about who you're talking to. If you REALLY need to have these CDs in hand, they're not hard to get a hold of. Japanese Neptunia LEs are pretty inexpensive for the most part. You're still stuck reading subs for a translation, though.
>spoiler
I wish those forms stayed dead and buried. Yeah, I heard about the figure. No, I don't think WH will get one. But if she does, I will buy it.
>No, I meant the other two girls of Rex's harem in that case.
Right, sorry, the MS comparison confused me a bit. But that's just more the reason to be against harems, IMO.
>I'm not too worried
Look, I'm just saying it's happened before and CH seem like the kinda guys who'd burn bridges like that. It's hard to trust them with all the stupid bullshit they've pulled over the years.

>Changing Bowser's "AIRHEAD" to "LUNKHEAD" (what, is that even a word?) like he said a slur on par with nigger or something.
Yes, "Lunkhead" is a word. It's a strange change given it has the exact same meaning as "airhead" and the latter was much more appropriate for a character that flies around on a broom.
>Another instance where he says something along the lines of "the silent type has its perks too. I could get used to this." while mistaking that Koopa's Peach poster for the real deal. Completely removed in the new lolcalization because wanting women to stay quiet is muh soggy knees or something.
Actually, he says he could go for the "strong, silent type, too" in the remake... and then goes on to make the line much more misogynist by remarking that he's had enough "backseat bosses" as it is, alluding to Kammy. A baffling change compared to the original, obviously intended to make Peach sound stronger and less dainty, but immediately undercut by the next line. Which, is fine, hey, unambiguous bad guys should by every -ist in the book so make it obvious they're bad people.
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So now that the Cheetoh n' Chief has basically made it illegal for payment processors to continue their shenanigans, I wonder where that's going to leave platforms like Steam, GOG, and Itch now that they have ZERO excuses to censor and remove content.
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>>8485
I was going to post something about it when I saw the news, but thought 'Let me just wait a day, because this feels a bit too targeted to not come with any loopholes for either parties to wiggle through'.

I'd love for Itch to immediately reverse their bans and Gabe to start an Eroge category on Steam but I fear they may just smile and keep it removed because they didn't really disagree with the practice on principle. I think just yesterday Gabe blocked a vtuber VN from releasing on Steam named 'Okayu Nyumu' that wasn't even NSFW, it's rated Cero C. It's just an extension of Steam's ongoing 'Fuck Japan' policy enforced under-the-table. So one-step-forward-two-steps-back to where we were roughly 3 months ago.
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>>8486
>I think just yesterday Gabe blocked a vtuber VN from releasing on Steam named 'Okayu Nyumu' that wasn't even NSFW, it's rated Cero C.
Looking into it, that decision was made 23 hours before Trump's EO was signed. So Valve still has a scapegoat they can use. However every now announcement starting today will be the true test.
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>>8487
Ooh, good eye. Maybe Gaben will pull through for us, again. I'll buy a new Steam Deck in his honor if he does.
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bleh. it's been too long since i've posted in these threads. got busy with school, i haven't even really had too many chances to play and post about code z...
made two pretty cool compa-chan purchases recently, though!
i was planning on posting about some of the art in the mary skelter artbook elsewhere, and i wanted to know if any of you all had anything you wanted to see in it.
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>>8489
Nice art book! I wish I got special physical editions more often just for extras like that.
>>8489
I do plan to play the mary skelter games one day sadly compile or IF made the mistake of hiring ghostlight so i have been very leery of these games i would already buy the games but they where also too cheap to pay for the japanese script  so even the hope of replaying once my anki reps pay off would be a none starter, At least ghostlight are all but bust these days well deserved.
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>>8491
i'm afraid i don't understand what the part about the japanese script, are you saying you wanted a japanese langauge option in the game?

if PC is your only option, all of the games are on the switch, so you should be able to emulate them fine.
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>>8492
>are you saying you wanted a japanese langauge option in the game?

well most games get Japanese audio but Japanese script refers to the text there really is no reason not to have it included i will probably emulate eventually. checking gog the games are on a deep sale and ghostlight is dead so i brought them.
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>>8493
given that compa seemingly only does PC releases because they feel like they literally have to to get westerners to care, i think they just feel like it's not necessary. most people who speak japanese probably aren't on playing compile heart games on steam.

granted, no reason to not have alternate language options, but it strikes me as odd when that specifically is where pc gamers draw the line and don't play it. this isn't even the first time i've seen people have this issue with mary skelter specifically.
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I also experienced this problem with pirated releases of PC games. Where, in the name of optimization, they remove everything except for the English dub from the game. Which, yes, I can understand why they do that with all the video and audio files taking up space, but they also do it to the text files. And they do not offer people any way to re-download those files if they want to use another language for the game.
>>8495
Might it be a account region thing?
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>>8497
That reminds me of some people mentioning out that apparently some vidya voice actors in Japan have it in their contract that their voice cannot be used for releases of the game outside of the country. However, I don't know what games that has ever happened to, so take it as just hearsay as it could be another situation of English translators making themselves out to be "holier than though". Like how people still defend ADV to this day over their treatment of Ghost Stories despite the entire "excuse" for their abridged dub being an outright lie. Or how people still believe that myth about the Ghost In The Shell manga having it's lesbian censored in Japan, when the ONLY source for that claim is some retards blog from the late 90's. Or how people still demand to experience the original WD localizations of games, most recently being the Lunar Collection, despite WD making releasing of the worst video game translations in all of history (Even worse than Treehouse).
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>>8498
That does not sound too alien to me surprisingly but I honestly doubt that is something that happened back in the day. I cannot prove it mind you but if the only source is localisers then I am not all that willing to believe it.
>Even worse than Treehouse
Man that is really hard to believe. I have to say I am quite curious now.
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>>8499
>I have to say I am quite curious now.
Imagine taking a perfectly normal game from Japan and what you do is ramp the difficulty up to almost impossible levels, introducing game mechanics that didn't exist in the original and effectively break the experience, insert pop culture references and sex jokes where none previously existed, delay the Western releases for several years to the point that you're effectively releasing a launch title as a swan song for the system, release it in such limited quantities that it almost immediately becomes a collector's item or at least would if you ever marketed the game, but it's all "okay" because you included a music CD, a physical game map made out of high quality cloth, a brand new game cover displaying high quality clay models, voice acting, and giving people games that they would have "never" been able to play otherwise.

And while the company no longer exists materially, it still does in spirits as Gaijinworks, Victor Ireland's current company with him popping his head up every now and then. If anything, I'd say Working Design's influence is one of the biggest reasons why you see various translations groups, from "fan translations" to official companies, making completely bullshit localizations for video games, anime, and manga without any worry. Because people still defend that bullshit to this very day.
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>>8497
The Steam page doesn't list Japanese as a display language, so I doubt it. It might be possible to port the localization files over from the Switch version, but that's above my pay grade (and I don't speak jap either lol)
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>>8500
Jesus Christ, that is almost criminal. I was thinking these guys might have been the guys behind a bunch of DS games that got butchered in the West but it does not seem like it. It really is unfortunate that people are fine with shit like this. You might as well not even play the game at that point.
Sad times that he is still in business. Glad to know about this though, I was attributing most of it to early Nintendo localisations to be honest.

>>8501
I was thinking their version might have been a seperate version named in Japanese, I know there are some games on Steam like that, I have at least one too.
>>8500
Ah, 90s edge, where contrarianism back then was "We can swear in our video games so that makes it adult, right?" brought to you by people who watched snippets of VHS yellow sub tapes and thought this was what Japanese media was all like.
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>>8505
>Ah, 90s edge, where contrarianism back then was "We can swear in our video games so that makes it adult, right?" brought to you by people who watched snippets of VHS yellow sub tapes and thought this was what Japanese media was all like.
It's kind of funny really all this time and still people just cant let themselves say i like this thing without western window dressing and changiing things around because they are worries about what people will think of them.
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>>8484
>I'm also a little shocked that you would even think I just don't get physical autism
It's not the same thing as physicalfaggotry or collector autism. I'm tired of trying to explain it. You don't get it. But it doesn't matter anyway, because the uploaded ones are the only ones with translations, so again, it's not like I really have a choice.
>If you REALLY need to have these CDs in hand, they're not hard to get a hold of. Japanese Neptunia LEs are pretty inexpensive for the most part.
I think I'll pass on buying games for a console I don't have in a language I don't understand just for some drama CDs (also in a language I don't understand).
>I wish those forms stayed dead and buried
Is it just because they're too "slutty" for your tastes?

>Which, is fine, hey, unambiguous bad guys should by every -ist in the book so make it obvious they're bad people.
The trend lately has been to make villains as politically correct as the heroes, if not moreso. Probably because they hate it when chuds latch onto the non-PC villains and start making memes of them. The Joker movie is a standout example, and evidently it pissed someone off so much they made a sequel just to put him through a protracted humiliation ritual.
Anyway, as someone who's likely in the realm of chuddery himself and who is also probably repping every -ist in the book, I'm not fond of seeing my views vilified, but it's arguably even more annoying to see heinous villains who commit mass murder and rape on a daily basis virtue signal about how saying nigger and faggot is bad. At least Bowser is a entertaining and lovable goofball when he's not running another world conquest plot. RPG Bowser is great and the way they did him in Sticker Star onwards is fucking criminal.

>>8485
>>8486
There's conflicting reports on whether or not this Executive Order actually applies to credit card companies like VISA and Mastercard. And as it's merely an EO, it's not as good as passing an actual legislative bill and the next president could just easily revoke it as they often do. Regardless, I consider it a step in the right direction, especially as it directly sanctions actions in the name of "brand risk/reputation loss". This is the heart of the issue, and what virtually ALL of these corporate platforms, not simply VISA and Mastercard, use to justify their censorship, and it is that very concept that I believe people should be rallying against. I made a thread about this on /v/ a couple days ago (https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/717634436/#717634436%29, and the janniggers deleted it despite me not directly naming the cards and strictly talking about the major video game companies. Basically, I believe that if VISA and Mastercard can be sanctioned for abusing "muh brand" as an excuse to censor and deplatform anything they don't like, so should the major video game storefronts. There are only four (possibly even three) relevant storefronts for video game distribution, and not being able to distribute your game on any of them is essentially a market embargo in all but name. The core of the issue is that these vital distribution nodes are run by private corporations that have zero accountability to either developer or consumer. The only thing that can make them accountable is to put legal power in the hands of developers and restrict the right of the platform holders to ban or censor games for brand/reputation-related reasons. Essentially, video game storefronts, at least the four major ones, should be designated as gatekeepers and common carriers. Tokyo Clanpool's industry-scale deplatforming was an eye opener on this for me. I would not be advocating for such measures like these if even ONE significant storefront would have taken the game uncensored, but not one, not fucking ONE, did. Up until now, while it's hard to deny Soyny's actions were a major blow to the Japanese otaku game industry, as long as Nintendo and Steam were willing to take them, it wasn't the end of the world; as long as devs were willing to move their shit off Playstation hardware, the games could keep being made, and everyone who enjoyed those games was willing to migrate to the Switch or Steam. The Switch even enjoyed unprecedented success. Even when Steam turned increasingly hostile, I couldn't really complain as long as Nintendo were willing to take them. As long as ONE major store would still take them, you could still argue the market was functioning properly. But when NONE of them will take them, and all FOUR fucking platforms reject games with ESRB/PEGI/CERO ratings that were normal less than a decade ago for the most arbitrary and discriminatory reasons possible, it becomes clear the market is broken and measures need to be taken to discipline its actors for making it that way.
TL;DR If Steam/Nintendo/Sony don't back off the censorship after VISA and Mastercard are brought to heel, then we need to push for similar legislation for them specifically. I'm sick to death of innocuous Japanese anime girl games that were normal a decade ago and go through all the normal processes to release get cockblocked this hard. If they won't take these games, then it's time to use legal force to pry their goddamned mouths open and FORCE them to take the "icky" anime games they evidently hate so much. Your "brand" can go right to fucking Hell! The right of developers to make the content they wish and gamers to enjoy it matters more than whatever you think your "brand" means.
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>>8507
>It's not the same thing as physicalfaggotry or collector autism. I'm tired of trying to explain it. You don't get it.
I think I get it more than you think, but alas the lack of options makes the entire discussion moot. Have you listened to any of them, yet?
>I think I'll pass on buying games for a console I don't have in a language I don't understand just for some drama CDs (also in a language I don't understand).
That's mostly been my mindset, too. I do not buy many JP language only games. I've bought several Neptunias because it's Neptunia, including Blanc's game just for the figure in case it wasn't brought over to the west. But I don't understand a lick of Japanese so generally I don't buy Japanese language games. God bless those with English translations baked in, though, I'm grateful that's becoming more common.
>Is it just because they're too "slutty" for your tastes?
No. I may be a bit of a prude about speaking publicly about that stuff, but I can admire a good lewd outfit. It's because those forms visually invoke the concept of corruption, and I just don't like it. That's it. That's all there is to it. I hate seeing that shit in doujins, I hated seeing Kurome bring them stupidly close to that shit, hell I hated Arfoire turning into an unkillable body snatcher in part because of that shit. It's all tied to my love for Blanc and my desire to keep her as herself.

>The trend lately has been to make villains as politically correct as the heroes, if not moreso.
"Even evil has standards" is a trope that's been growing since at least the 00's, and that's just going by what I've observed growing up. Yes, in most applications it's extremely cringe and done exclusively for virtue signaling, and often nonsensical because it comes from the most mustache twirling, puppy kicking villains in their setting. So we have to be morally lectured on why it's so evil to be even mildly rude to a woman from a guy whose main hobby is burning down orphanages and listening to the screams of dying children.
>The Joker movie is a standout example
I think Senator Armstrong is a much better example. MGR makes it clear in no uncertain terms that he's a nutter and committed some seriously bad shit. Yet the ideology behind his actions is a very real one, expressed in real, relatable terms. Anyone with a modicum of common sense can at least see the appeal, even if they(I) don't agree with them. The Joker movie in contrast was given a bunch of labels and ideas attached to it just from a bunch of memes and stereotypes, before anyone even saw the fucking movie. It was assumed by the mainstream press to be the next school shooter manifesto... when instead, it was a tragic story of someone deep into mental illness in a callous world that simply does not care. Ironically many of the talking points touched upon in the movie were straight out of the leftist's playbook, but most of them didn't care. They just assumed the movie would be another incel manifesto. Honestly how one views the incel movement is a great litmus test for political honesty. So many "compassionate" people fail this test because they just can't get over the wrongthink and the nono words.
>and evidently it pissed someone off so much they made a sequel just to put him through a protracted humiliation ritual.
And all of that is why this shit is so painful. The original Joker movie was a heartfelt exploration of a guy going off the deep end and instead of letting the piece speak for itself... they listened to the critics who didn't even watch the fucking movie, and they tore it all down in the most spiteful way possible.
>Anyway, as someone who's likely in the realm of chuddery himself and who is also probably repping every -ist in the book
I've known too many people that buck the stereotypes of any given identity to really subscribe to any flavor of identity politics. The one exception would be trannies. I've known one or two cool trannies, the rest of them have been horrid people. I still try to be tolerant, but someone comes out as tranny I immediately trust them less.
>I'm not fond of seeing my views vilified, but it's arguably even more annoying to see heinous villains who commit mass murder and rape on a daily basis virtue signal about how saying nigger and faggot is bad.
See, that's some extremely cringe shit coming out of writers who've never known real strife if they honestly think some no-no words are worse than mass murder.
>the way they did him in Sticker Star onwards is fucking criminal
The way they did PM in Sticker Star onwards is fucking criminal.

>TL;DR If Steam/Nintendo/Sony don't back off the censorship after VISA and Mastercard are brought to heel, then we need to push for similar legislation for them specifically.
I agree with this so much, but I just don't see it happening. Hell, I'm shocked anything is being done about the banks. At least with finance, it's an absolute necessity you receive financial services just to function in modern society. Even then you still have reluctant parties hiding behind the excuse that it's your right to do business with whoever you want. Which I fundamentally disagree with on essential services.

Problem is, video games are not essential services. So while I'd like to slap these console manufacturers around for censorship, I don't see it happening.
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>>8513
>See, that's some extremely cringe shit coming out of writers who've never known real strife if they honestly think some no-no words are worse than mass murder.
Because for them, it is worse than murder. A lot of today's politics "make sense" when you stop looking at the politcal Left as an "ideological" movement and begin to see it as a religious cult. Because the problem ISN'T that you're saying the word "nigger", it's that you're effectively "casting a spell" by being a white person who says "nigger".
>I agree with this so much, but I just don't see it happening. Hell, I'm shocked anything is being done about the banks. At least with finance, it's an absolute necessity you receive financial services just to function in modern society. Even then you still have reluctant parties hiding behind the excuse that it's your right to do business with whoever you want. Which I fundamentally disagree with on essential services.
>Problem is, video games are not essential services. So while I'd like to slap these console manufacturers around for censorship, I don't see it happening.
There's also the problem that you stil "technically" have options. Companies can begin releasing on other PC storefronts outside of Steam and GOG, like DLsite and DMM in the case of Japanese games. Then there's also the fact that these companies "can" make games for previous platforms, like how Earthion is suppose to be releasing on the Genesis sometime in the next few months, and all those games still being developed on consoles like the Dreamcast. However that isn't really a viable option for studios who have employed dozens of people on staff, as is the case with Idea Factory. That is unless they spend a small fortune trying to shift all their fans over to those other platforms, but that also carries the risk that it could tank the entire company if it doesn't pay off.
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>>8514
>A lot of today's politics "make sense" when you stop looking at the politcal Left as an "ideological" movement and begin to see it as a religious cult.
Horseshoe theory. The further towards either extreme you get, the more cult-like their behavior becomes, no matter which side of the political spectrum they're supposed to be.
>it's that you're effectively "casting a spell" by being a white person who says "nigger".
What you're describing is simply another part of their ideology. The mainstream left have embraced power dynamics into their ideology. On paper it makes sense... the power one party has over another can drastically alter any situation. The problem is that it becomes inherently bigoted, as it begins to assume one party has more power than the other according to an arbitrary list of qualities. Oftentimes this manifests as "the progressive stack." It is therefor assumed that in any given social situation, a white person holds more power than a black person. Taken to its most logical extreme, this applies even if that white person is literally homeless and that black person is a billionaire. As nonsensical as the outcomes appear, there's still a logic behind it, still an ideology behind it.

Ironically much of this cancer is social policy. The left would be a lot more palatable if they focused on economic policy. The Democratic party's major wins in the last twenty years all focused on the economy. Making people's lives tangibly better, regardless of identity politics. Go figure, that's what gets votes. But then the banks and investment firms don't like left leaning economic policy. I'm sure you've heard it before, but a lot of the bullshit plaguing leftist politics can be traced back to the fallout of the occupy movement. Oligarchs found out they can destroy economic movements with social in-fighting and it's working like a charm.
>All the EU nations now have chat-scanning, internet ID laws 
Ok why now? what changed? Who got into power? Why all of this at once?
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>>8516
>Why all of this at once?
Because they need to be ready for the "next phase" of human developing by the year 2030 or we "doom the species" for the next millennia. I take it that you thought Agenda 2030 was a "conspiracy theory".
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>>8517
I wish all these rich fucks would stop trying to socially engineer the world.
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It seems today is Kana Asumi's (Blanc's seiyuu) birthday. Alas, I have not heard how she does Blanc yet, nor have I heard her in any of her other roles listed here, so I can's judge there, but happy birthday regardless to she who gives my beloved voice.
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>>8519
>Black Rock Shooter
>Monogatari
>Angel Beats
>Hidamari Sketch
all of these i've seen in their entirety, except Hidamari Sketch, but damn, i either don't remember the character at all, or i don't remember how the character sounded (except Yuno)
>>8519
Familiar with quite a few of these roles. Miya was very good, I need to get back to reading Amagami.
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>>8489
i'd meant to post this sooner, but i got busy again.
here're a couple of my favorite pieces from the mary skelter artbook! i find early concept art and the like to be incredibly cool and interesting, so i loved seeing these. i'm kind of sad that all of these are just on one page, though, and the girls themselves seemed to not go through as many changes, gretel doesn't have any early designs at all...
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>>8522
Kakkoi Arisu, and that looks like evil Red Riding Hood?
I watched Madoka recently, and I can't help but wonder if it was part of what inspired Mary Skelter, at least visually.
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>>8523
interestingly, red riding hood seemed to have gone through several revisions.
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Im surprised that Compile Heart didnt just give up on innovating on the neptunia formula and just made a dating sim. Would be more honest than the half hearted effort they make and their reputation for making kusoge.
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>>8525
Are there any beta designs for Rapunzel and Hameln?
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>>8527
for some reason it didn't occur to me to take a separate picture for hameln's revisions so i had to crop it from the picture i took of her full page so it's a bit scuffed for a few of these characters (i want to say alice, red riding hood, and hameln specifically), you can see that the *idea* for their designs were around for a while, since the page for all of the early concept art has a bunch of random designs and then ones that kind of resemble those three. apparently it took a while for the team to decide on theming the series around western fairy tales, so a lot of concepts got changed once that was settled on, which makes me wonder what the original intention was behind these three designs.

rapunzel is funny to me because it just looks someone, either nanameda-sensei himself or someone else, just kept going "make her younger" with each revision
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>>8518
>I wish all these rich fucks would stop trying to socially engineer the world.-t. samefagging sockpuppet niggers
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another thing i found interesting, apparently at one point they planned on having massacre mode be something that was remote-controlled?
Oh janny had a clitty melty because I posted in a wplace thread, that's a new ID for me

>>8529
Who are you quoting?
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>>8531
>soynigger lingo
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>>8532
Who are you quoting?
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>>8526
Isn't that Hyperdevotion?
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>>8534
Was there any choice in the matter for that game? As far as I know the Secretary just said stuff with no input from the player.
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>>8528
Thanks. I guess they zeroed in onto the overall vibe of the game pretty early on. Picture 1 is still pretty recognizably Hameln. I've always found the contrast between how serious she looks and how she acts to be pretty fun.
>rapunzel is funny to me because it just looks someone, either nanameda-sensei himself or someone else, just kept going "make her younger" with each revision
I'm glad someone did lol, she's probably my favorite design-wise. Nanameda draws girls with cute, squishable cheeks.
>>8535
You know, that's a good point.
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>>8538
That's a cute one
>>8537
I never played it myself, I just watched a bit of it, a while ago admittedly but I do not recall seeing any dialogue choices. Maybe if they did something like that with the better Noires or another goddess I would give it a shot but the gameplay never really appealed to me. If you have played it, is it at all comparable to Disgaea? I did enjoy the few of those I played.
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>>8513
>Have you listened to any of them, yet?
No. Honestly, another thing is I'm not sure HOW much of the series I should play beforehand. They're supplemental material after all, and so far I've only played two games.
>It's because those forms visually invoke the concept of corruption, and I just don't like it
I thought about it and figured that may be the case, the anxiety over the possibility of seeing her mind and personality become compromised to the point she becomes something other than herself. I hate it too. I stumbled upon a fanfic on Fanfiction.net once with this very concept, up to and including personality excretion and death. Blanc was even the first victim. I immediately clicked off and never read further. I despise Cru's doujins as well, they're just depraved to the core, and he portrays the goddesses as essentially disposable meat toilets. Why'd they have to be the majority of translated Nep doujins?
Anyway, while there is little information available in English on the Chaos forms, of what is there, Blanc was not brainwashed or corrupted by the Chaos energy and somehow retains her normal personality and alignment (at least mostly). How, I don't know, but I like to chalk it up to just her own strong will, especially considering NONE of the other main goddesses, even Neptune, could resist its effects. So you can lay that concern to rest.

>MGR 
That's on my GOG wishlist at the moment. Just waiting for a good sale, at least 50%. 
>The Joker movie in contrast was given a bunch of labels and ideas attached to it just from a bunch of memes and stereotypes, before anyone even saw the fucking movie.
A self-fulfilling prophecy if I ever saw one. They were told the Joker embodied the incel movement, so "incels" watched it and went "wow, he really is literally me". It probably helped that the movie even referenced the "society" meme in possibly the best way possible.
>I've known too many people that buck the stereotypes of any given identity to really subscribe to any flavor of identity politics.
Well, for me, even before we consider 13/56, gay bathhouse AIDS orgies, E.S.T., etc., I see a lot of shoneniggers disparaging anime fanservice and otaku games, I see a lot of fags joining in with them and also constantly demanding to be catered to in games with romance options, I see women constantly parrot Anita Sarkeesianisms, and most importantly, I see corporate media constantly bending over to cater to these crowds and allow them to shit up the things I enjoy. I can't have Rune Factory now without bara furries wanting to sodomize me, I can't have Xenoblade without DEI quotas and the aforementioned crowd screeching about the fanservice (I consider Xenoblade 2 to be one of the most unfairly smeared games in history. Were you there for the fuckhuge shitflinging fest that was the game's prerelease? Hell, one notorious /v/ shitposter made his whole name spamming this one webm of Kora's Blade Quest deriding it as immature "japanese humor". He spammed threads for YEARS!), and I've seen countless other franchises fall to the pozz virus. In fact, in large part it's what's responsible for driving me to these shameless otaku games to begin with. Here are games where cute anime girls are law and fanservice is paramount, driven by niche devs who exist solely to cater to their base of turboweebs. Here, the faggots and ugly browns (only cute anime browns allowed) cannot touch me, there is no space for them in these worlds. So what do they do? They just fucking kill them by denying them a platform using the typical roastie women and faggot justifications. I can't have FUCKING ANYTHING because of these subhumans! Do you have any idea how much resentment that breeds? 

>I agree with this so much, but I just don't see it happening. Hell, I'm shocked anything is being done about the banks.
I like to be at least a bit optimistic. The idea of "brand/reputational risk" is being attacked much more viciously now as THE excuse for corporate censorship, especially when wielded by monopolies or duopolies with near-total control over their domain, making alternatives non-existent or non-viable. And I don't think it's a long leap to go from "this payment processor duopoly with near-total control over online transactions should not have the right to police content" to "this storefront monopoly/duopoly with near-total control over distribution of an extremely popular media format should not be allowed to police content this strictly". Yeah, it's not ESSENTIAL like payment processors are, but video games are a huge industry, and many artists and developers make their livelihoods off it. Livelihoods which are dependent on Sony, Nintendo and Steam and their distribution platforms. If the government cannot police this content, why should they?

>>8514
>There's also the problem that you still "technically" have options
Yeah, "technically" being the keyword there. Much like with VISA/Mastercard, "technically" you still have other cards (that all have the same policies since they use VISA/MC's network) and crypto, but anyone can tell you that crypto doesn't scale and is not really a viable alternative. Video game storefronts are the same; "technically" you have options, but they are so minuscule compared to the major storefronts that they aren't really options. I do kinda wanna see them try to port the Re;Births to the Dreamcast just for the hell of it. Or even better, VII, since the whole story is essentially about rescuing the Dreamcast (Uzume) from oblivion. In all honesty, part of me wants to see SEGA reenter the console wars once Xbox drops out, but looking at them, I can tell they won't be much different from Sony and Nintendo these days.
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Hopefully after the great war is over, we'll all get 12 acres of land to build homes on, 15 passable robowaifus and SMRs. Future's gonna be so bright we'll need sunglasses
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How would your nep handle the great war?
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>>8543
Great War being the First World War?
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>>8544
Oh heavens no, she wouldn't last a day.
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>>8545
lol
Which one are you referring to then?
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Tomorrow is the 15th anniversary of the release of the first Hyperdimension Neptunia on the PS3, and thus the 15th anniversary of the series as a whole. I expect the new mainline game will be announced tomorrow or within the next few days. Honestly, I'm really anxious about it. Between how it has so much to make up for being the first mainline in a decade, Compile Heart's recent output being unimpressive in many ways, the environment just becoming more and more hostile to games like it, it all has me nervous about it. What will the story be like? Will they actually try to write a story addressing all the issues plaguing Gamindustri now? Will it be turn-based again instead of more real-time action? Will Blanc shine in it? Will any of the older characters like Plutia come back? Will they actually try with the fanservice again? Will I have to make a Steam account to get it when it doesn't release on Switch? If it doesn't do fantastically, is it the end of the road for Compile Heart? All these questions are weighing on me as I wait.

>>8543
Regardless of whatever war you're talking about, Blanc is remarkably resilient in both body and mind, and she and Lowee have withstood trials that have laid low many lesser goddesses only to rebound soon after. I can confidently say that Blanc will outlast all her current rivals. She's not going anywhere.
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>>8543
Well considering we technically had such a moment already, she'd take on whatever needed to be done and deal with the horror later
>>8546
Presumably the impending one I cheekily referred to
>>8547
Was SvS not mainline? I feel they could whip out Maho in future mainline without batting an eye. And they did say projects so there might be more than Nep5. I'd be happy with an Ultradimension spinoff, especially since if I recall SvS has the true ending gate closed. Did you make sure to do the survey before it closed? I thanked them for their hard work while also asking for more Ultradimension, costumes and processors.
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In before Nep1 remake
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>>8546
The 'great war' which I don't know what that is, but Uzume would probably be bad at it. 

>>8549
Wow! So what is it? A new game? 
A new remake?
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>>8550
Or.. a two minute advertisement for existing remakes..
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>>8551
Seems to be the trailer for the trailer with that ending. Unrelated but we also get the Xillia unreveal today
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>>8541
>Honestly, another thing is I'm not sure HOW much of the series I should play beforehand.
They don't really reference the games, so if that's your concern, you're good to go.
>spoiler
I wish I could hate that writer to death.
>I despise Cru's doujins as well
Never touched these. The art is hideous to me, and I've never seen Blanc featured in any of them so there's no point.
>Why'd they have to be the majority of translated Nep doujins?
Like I said before, a series centered around a very powerful group of young women will inevitably attract that kind of fan material.
>Anyway, while there is little information available in English on the Chaos forms, of what is there, Blanc was not brainwashed or corrupted by the Chaos energy and somehow retains her normal personality and alignment (at least mostly).
It's totally incomplete information. There are no records far as I know detailing where that entire story line even went. So I can't really set that concern aside.

>That's on my GOG wishlist at the moment. Just waiting for a good sale, at least 50%. 
I got my copy brand new on PS3 for $15 years ago and according to pricecharting that's still about the going price.
>A self-fulfilling prophecy if I ever saw one. They were told the Joker embodied the incel movement, so "incels" watched it and went "wow, he really is literally me". It probably helped that the movie even referenced the "society" meme in possibly the best way possible.
More accurately the movie was relatable to just about anyone who's mentally ill and felt ignored or tread on by society. I think invoking the society meme was pure accident and the writers just had genuine intentions to make real statements about society. But again, memes caused retards to see shit that wasn't there... and so the establishment demanded it be torn down and once again the mentally ill are told to go fuck themselves for a vague association to political wrongthink.
>gay bathhouse AIDS orgies
Of all the things to bring up for identity politics, lol. Orgies have just as much appeal among straight people as they do faggots, historically speaking. Since you mentioned AIDS, however, bug chasers/spreaders/whatever should be put to death as a matter of health concerns.
Anyways, you know a whole lot of that garbage is being driven by the investor class. A lot of it is to keep us fighting along social lines so they can keep assfucking us economically. Still, you're justified in being mad about the things you love being ruined by these people.
>Do you have any idea how much resentment that breeds? 
Absolutely, I'm just saying it's not as black and white as identity politics would have you believe. For every women regurgitating tired feminist talking points, you'll find another who rejects them. But the latter doesn't get the funding or the media attention. See how that works? It's the same for every "minority" or "marginalized" person who doesn't fit into the ideological box that's been laid out for them. Their voices get silenced, the activists get boosted, and it's all to convince people like you or I that we're alone in our camp, that the other factions are incapable of seeing it our way or relating to us in any way.

>I like to be at least a bit optimistic.
I lean more towards pessimism out of necessity. If I expect better, I get a lot more stressed and... let's just leave it at that.

Thing is, an entertainment company isn't a necessary service. And if they actually do muzzle the payment processors, then the argument resets back to "just make your own platform lol", which will be difficult but not impossible as long as said muzzles remain on the payment processors.
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>>8553
The biggest reason the "Just make your own X, Y, and Z" arguments are all disingenuous is because everyone realizes that building this infrastructure didn't happen overnight, nor did it involve one or even millions of people. It's simply a way of saying that you're no longer allowed to use the part of infrastructure you helped build with your tax dollars and should settle with being cast out of society as an untouchable and having to form a lesser, parallel version of it that you're allowed to use. When the premise itself is bullshit, there is zero reason you're not as entitled as anyone else to use infrastructure like the Internet, Money, Credit Cards, and Banks, especially since these things only exist because of the collective effort of everybody in society in the form of Taxes. 

tl;dr it's not that people should be angry that the line is coming toward them, people should be angry at the line, and the fact it was drawn in the first place by the same people who only exist because of the good will of society. And there are a LOT of lines being drawn exclusively around how profitable a singular person is toward the largest businesses who would have been broken up and destroyed if they existed anywhere else.
>>8548
>Was SvS not mainline? 
We're sure it's not now, lol. The original PS3 releases (plus VII) are what's considered main by Compile Heart, according to the video linked right under you. Still, nothing preventing spinoffs from being connected to the main timeline, I guess.
>>8548
What makes the next one so great? Are we going to see the deployment of futuristic weapons? New weapons entirely? If so I want to see a fleet of those Su-47 lookalikes.

>>8549
>spoiler
Part of me would not mind, assuming it is a faithful remake with better models, less stiff animations, more varied dungeons and the like. The original swimsuits, Neptune's especially would be a must. The rest of me would be quite.

>>8550
Yeah, she would put up a strong face but I cannot imagine her dealing with it very well.

>>8552
>today
That aside it is baffling that they are not putting both together.

>>8553
>will inevitably attract that kind of fan material.
I do not dislike that kind of stuff like you two but I would like some variety. Back in the day it was all yuri, futanari or rape and corruption. That or a combination of them. No idea if that was all that got scanned or if that is all that exists. I did not think to look when I was there unfortunately.

>ideological box
I do not really get invovled in stuff like this anymore but does get tiring seeing all that shit, as well as people getting more pissed at each other, you saying this is quite refreshing to see.

All that aside, nice picture.
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>>8548
>Was SvS not mainline?
It was an "orthodox spinoff".
>I'd be happy with an Ultradimension spinoff, especially since if I recall SvS has the true ending gate closed
I have been begging for the UD characters to come back for a while now. SvS bringing it up just to slam it shut was like salt in the wound. At least bring Plutia back, she's consistently been a top 10 character for years now. I know asking for Peashy too is probably too much.
>Did you make sure to do the survey before it closed?
No. It was all in Japanese and thus obviously intended for the domestic audience. Yeah, I probably could have used DeepL, but that would likely still out me as a gaijin anyway.

>>8553
>Like I said before, a series centered around a very powerful group of young women will inevitably attract that kind of fan material.
I don't get it. I just don't get why people feel the need to so flagrantly defile such beautiful things. It feels like something born out of jealousy and resentment, not love.
>It's totally incomplete information. There are no records far as I know detailing where that entire story line even went.
Nepnep Connect ended service pretty early, so it's possible the story didn't even progress beyond there. It's also likely a major reason why there's so little information.
Anyway, while I despise identity death and full-on sluttification, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least a little enticed by the idea of a more uninhibited and aggressive Blanc. I also like the idea of being an "anchor" for her to keep her from turning fully, as well as the general concept of taming and controlling one's "dark" side. Also, Ram apparently going full MSGK is funny. You know, I'm pretty sure we've had this conversation before. 

>Anyways, you know a whole lot of that garbage is being driven by the investor class. A lot of it is to keep us fighting along social lines so they can keep assfucking us economically.
Having gone through several threads last night and recently in general about the payment processor issue with people just throwing blame left and right at each other instead of actually taking any substantial action, I can see the merit to this point. But it aggravates me so much to see people prop up leftards and Democrats as the solution to this issue when the entire past decade of censorship was caused by rhetoric and institutions directly related to or affiliated with them. Like the Gelbooru admin, while I believe he means well, seems to think this one guy affiliated with the Trump admin is behind all of this (Russ Vought), and coupled with Denpasoft blocking red states, some posters are taking that idea and running with it, turning the whole thing into another "orange man bad" issue and openly going VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO even though Japanese vendors were getting definanced and deplatformed left and right during the Biden admin and arguably even before that. They also refuse to acknowledge the sheer extent of the damage Sony's policies and ESG/DEI initiatives have caused to the industry. And frankly, as a rightoid, acting like the right is uniformly anti-anime pisses me off when we for years have been championing anime and Japanese games as the alternative to the diseased and decrepit western industry with open contempt for its customer base. To top it all off, I'm not supporting demographic replacement and trannyfaggot parades even if they do promise to stop censoring my Japanese shit.
>For every women regurgitating tired feminist talking points, you'll find another who rejects them.
You're in a thread about a moe anime game series with a woman artist and (I think) a woman director. In fact, apparently Compile Heart's staff is like half women. Here's another mind-blower; would you believe one of the most controversial and "problematic" manga/anime series of all time, Kodomo no Jikan, was also written and illustrated by a woman? I am capable of making exemptions for people who warrant it. But it doesn't change that often the majority of them ARE like that. Like Japanese women in creative positions for anime or Japanese game-related work don't seem to be an adverse influence, but virtually every time you see a western woman (or even worse, a "woman") in a major position for a western game, it's a harbinger of disaster. Same for other "diversity" groups. And rarely do people from those groups actually address this, they seem content to benefit from it at others' expense. People on Bluesky were actually trying to rehabilitate Anita Sarkeesian, for fuck's sake, as if her rhetoric wasn't directly responsible for enabling so much of the modern "anti-fanservice, anti-male gaze" style censorship.
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>>8559
>out me as a gaijin
I do not think they would care so long as you did not enter the draw for the figures. Fans are fans.

>And rarely do people from those groups actually address this
To be fair, you just get ridiculed and mocked for trying to fix issues in these groups, I imagine most people just gave up after repeated failures. The people you are talking about are vile and sheep. Frankly I doubt most of them can be saved or fixed at this point, they are too invested in their hatred. Hard to help those who respond with hostility.
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>>8559
Excuse me if I get you angry, but I need to address some things you're posting:
>But it aggravates me so much to see people prop up leftards and Democrats as the solution to this issue when the entire past decade of censorship was caused by rhetoric and institutions directly related to or affiliated with them.
Don't you mean the past forty years? You had Hillary was leading a campaign to get Manhunt 2 cancelled, Lieberman going after MK and Night Trap, and Tipper Gore leading the committee calling for the censorship of music. The overhwleming majority of censorship efforts you can find are either start/created by the baizuo or includes people from "both sides" of the aisle. But also the big different is that the baizuo haven't done anything explicitely for the purposes of being unapoligetically censorous to regular content like the Comstock Laws.
>seems to think this one guy affiliated with the Trump admin is behind all of this (Russ Vought)
Project 2025 is a real thing, with people like Vought trying to push it, but it has nothing to do with Trump. In fact, Trump even disavowed it last year.
>turning the whole thing into another "orange man bad" issue and openly going VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO
Because Trump has made it very clear that he is not in favor the Distributist policies being pushed by the baizuo nor the Woke Right, so they have to make him irrelevent.
>They also refuse to acknowledge the sheer extent of the damage Sony's policies and ESG/DEI initiatives have caused to the industry
It's simply because they're not against those policies in practice, only who they're being "applied" to. It's best summed up as the phrase:
<No bad tactics, only bad targets.
>And frankly, as a rightoid, acting like the right is uniformly anti-anime pisses me off when we for years have been championing anime and Japanese games as the alternative to the diseased and decrepit western industry with open contempt for its customer base
Except for Kiwifarms. And "Right Wing commentators" like Razorfist. And almost everyone who is associated with ComicsGate. If you ask them about manga, or anything related to Japan, their response to go full blown "Two nukes wasn't enough".
>To top it all off, I'm not supporting demographic replacement and trannyfaggot parades even if they do promise to stop censoring my Japanese shit.
That's not the point. It's all a political game that exists for the sole reason of getting you to pick a side that will allow for them to further their agenda and The Revolution. And once they do get what they want, they'll toss it aside for the very next program that will allow them to continue the process, no matter how "hypocritical" their following policy is compared to what was previously said. In fact, Hegel, Marx's mentor, outright stated:
<History uses people and then discards them.
>Like Japanese women in creative positions for anime or Japanese game-related work don't seem to be an adverse influence, but virtually every time you see a western woman (or even worse, a "woman") in a major position for a western game, it's a harbinger of disaster
Because the Japanese haven't spent the past century being browbeaten by the Sex-Marxists, otherwise known as Feminists. Epsecially after the leader of Japan's Socialist Party was slaughtered on live TV. In fact, perhaps a grand irony of the situation, is that the only reason why these feminine baizuo can destroy Western media the way they do is because the West has yet to undergo through our own Cultural Revolution. You see this with West Taiwan, where MaoMao pushed through very similar policies during the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution, that men must stop "discriminating" against women, and then rescinded those policies a decade or two later, after he (re)gained power and control, to where the "official" leader of the Feminist movement in West Taiwan must answer directly to the CCP. I mean, just look at some of the games out out of West Taiwan, and you wouldn't know that the CCP was previously "Pro-Feminists".
>And rarely do people from those groups actually address this
For one, it's because they try to make dissidents within those classes "Irrelevent", like the delcaration of someone having "Interalized racism/sexism/homophobia/etc.". Have you heard something along the lines of:
<[Insert name] is a [Insert class] who doesn't want to be a voice for [Insert class].
Like how Larry Elder is the "black face" of "white supremacy"? Another reason is because they don't see a problem with these policies, they may even outright disagree with them, so long they get to be the ones to benefit from this.

>>8560
>Frankly I doubt most of them can be saved or fixed at this point, they are too invested in their hatred.
That's another massive problem with the modern political landscape, too. People are too focussed on getting revenge, even at the cost of everything. In fact, Socialism can be described as a revenge fantasy as it's entire justification can be boiled down to:
<Because we were taken advantage of in the past by the "oppressor class", reality cannot be fixed and history cannot progress unless we reverse the "oppressors" and the "oppressed".
Just look at how Feminism thinks that the "only" way to "end the Patriarchy" is by turning men into women (Literally) and women into men. Yes, trannies are an offshoot of Feminism. Or how CRT/"Colonial Theory" thinks that the "only" way to "end Racism" is to destroy the institutions and aspects of society that were established without the input, knowledge, and blessing of the "minoritized races". How many have you heard about how the Constitution should be abolished because it was made by "a bunch of old white slave owners"?
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>>8561
>all a political game
This is why I stopped interacting with that kind of content, it mostly exists to piss people off and keep us at each others throats.
>massive problem
It is incredibly obnoxious seeing all the tribalistic bullshit almost everywhere these days. I had not considered the revenge part to be honest but it does make sense. There is no way the people that buy into that do not realise that a mere reversal of positions changes very little, if anything at all.
>CRT/"Colonial Theory"
The only thing that comes to mind are the old monitors and tellies. I do not think I have heard about the theory either.
>Final spoiler
Despite being across the pond I have seen that around a few times actually. Editing it is one thing, completely getting rid of it is unnecessary. Is it a more common sentiment than I realise? Would not be surprised honestly.
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>>8562
>The only thing that comes to mind are the old monitors and tellies. I do not think I have heard about the theory either.
CRT stands for "Critical Race Theory". It's being pushed here in the U.S. and the argument behind why we need DEI here for companies. "Colonial Theory" is what Europe is mostly being hit with, that you guys have to destroy your own nations and build up your former colonies in order to attone for your past sins as "colonizers".
>Editing it is one thing, completely getting rid of it is unnecessary
It absolutely is if they want to follow through on their agenda. I'm not sure if you're aware, but they attempted this in America back in the 30's. That's what FDR's "New Deal" was, an endless list of Communist policies, and almost every single one struck down in court or made moot because it violated the Constitution. And it pretty much established that they only way Socialist policies can be instituted here is if we rewrite the entire Constitution.
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>>8563
Oh. I have heard of that a few times, never seen any details about it though, so thanks for the explanation.
>Colonial Theory
Nice to have a name for it I suppose. I cannot speak for the mainland but this country seems more focused on Afghanistan more than anywhere else, I do not think they were ever a colony but my Imperial history is not exactly up to snuff. Indians and Pakis have been here since before my time as well. I absolutely despise the mindset that makes people think and act like the current generations need to suffer for things they had no hand in, especially when it is so detrimental to the country.
>New Deal
Pretty sure I have heard of it before but I will not claim to know anything beyond the name. I am honestly quite surprised to see that communist policies were considered by the US at one point, given the Red Scare.
I do not know enough about socialism to say much on it since I never cared to look into it but if the constitution needs to be rewritten in its entirety for their implementation to be successful, I am surprised I did not see more people calling for rewriting or removing it.
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>>8565
ohh, awesome! excited to see what she draws!
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>>8561
>Don't you mean the past forty years?
I consider the period from the 2000s to the mid 2010s to be a period of very little censorship in games. Japanese games always had the problem of retarded loocalizers, but generally no platform or major regulatory body actively tried to fuck with them. As long as your game followed procedure and had a valid rating, it was good to go. The only exception I can think of at the moment was BMX XXX which got the Soyny censorship treatment years before it became endemic, but the Gamecube and Xbox versions were untouched. I have not heard of any campaign to cancel Manhunt 2, but evidently it didn't come to much. While Manhunt 2 had to be chopped down a bit to receive an M rating, it was otherwise fine and no platform tried to block its release like what you see constantly today with any risque Japanese game. And the end of that era coincided with the festering of Tumblr-style leftism and feminism and its eventual spillover into the greater internet to infect the cultural discourse, followed quickly by the explosion of transgenderism. This lead to GamerGate when that current clashed with the established gamer base of straight males, mostly white. And well, judging by the landscape today, it didn't go very well for the latter. 
Anyway, while I am hardly surprised leftoids were involved with the 90s censorship, popular consciousness holds that it was mainly the time of "soccer moms" and conservative Christian interest groups.
>It's simply because they're not against those policies in practice, only who they're being "applied" to
More or less what I was saying. It feels like they're trying to use this issue to springboard a blue wave in the midterms. In which case I have little doubt that they will just put the itch.io and indie fag games that the Bluesky crowd likes back to placate them while they turn the ESG/DEI machine back on at full speed and continue pozzing and censoring Japanese games, and once again weeb chuds will become the only ones speaking out against it. I want this issue to be used to push a final solution to the issue of privatized censorship, not just put team blue back so gay bear sex sims can keep being made while Senran Kagura and Gal*Gun remain dead because they dared to apologetically appeal to straight male otakus.
>Except for Kiwifarms
The core of the 'farms may be rightoid, but they attract individuals of many stripes. In general, the practice of making fun of lolcows attracts those who want someone or something to point to just to say "well at least I'm not that guy".
>And "Right Wing commentators" like Razorfist.
Funnily enough, the first video I ever watched from him (a long time ago) was about Mortal Kombat and him pointing out the desexualization of the female characters. He's also (or at least used to be) a staunch metalhead. I can only assume Christinsanity lobotomized him.
>For one, it's because they try to make dissidents within those classes "Irrelevent", like the delcaration of someone having "Interalized racism/sexism/homophobia/etc."
Indeed. I would argue the left is far more uniform than the right. They adhere strictly to the tenants of so-called (by the right) gay race communism and any disputation of it is grounds for excommunication. They don't even really care about economic policies as long as it implements the desired social outcomes. Meanwhile, the right is splintered between "establishment"/GOP conservative factions (if you can even call them right), trads, (former) Gamergaters, weeb chuds (the "Anime Right"), the "dissident right" (comprising hardline ethnic nationalists and Natsoc types), etc. There will always be some overlap between those groups, but there is also just as much friction. 

>Yes, trannies are an offshoot of Feminism
Ha, these retards actually think TERFs are right-wing, by the way. TERFs are just feminists that are in denial about the monster they've helped create. What did you think would happen as a result of "equalizing" men and women? If there is no substantial difference between the two, why can't men just be women and vice versa? They can't grasp this and, upset at how trannies are essentially "gaming" the system they set up, hope that reverting to an earlier version of feminism will solve it.

>>8565
>"whatever she wants" 
What, you mean like pics related? Not sure if I should spoiler these or not. They're official and technically PG (no genitals), but still... It still kind of blows my mind that this is official promo art. But then again, I should expect as much from Compile Heart considering all the rest of their output throughout the 10s. God, I miss that Compile Heart. I'm still hoping and praying deep in my heart against all odds that this new Neptunia mainline will finally be a return to form for them. No one else is really like Compa. No one else really specializes in these shamelessly otaku JRPGs. Except Imageepoch, but, well, they're dead. Stella Glow really does hold a special fondness with me.
 >"I hope we get accepted"
Don't tell me that Comiket might actually be stupid enough to turn away Tsunako of all people.
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Death end re;Quest Code Z launches on Steam in a week. Frankly, I wish they would start throwing bones to people who don't like or prefer non-Steam storefronts. They have perfectly good reason to after Tokyo Clanpool got banned. Honestly, it's kinda hard to take PCfags extolling the benefits of PC as an open platform seriously when Steam is this centralizing. Really, I don't know why so few publishers even attempt non-Steam releases. What do they think they have to lose from it? Everyone in the industry goes on now about how important being multiplat is, so why not multi-PC? Is it just because so many of the other storefronts are anti-DRM and they're afraid of piracy? Is there some trouble involved with producing a non-Steam port? You'd think it'd just be the storefront approval process after the port itself is done.
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>>8568
i've said it before here, but PC releases seem to be relatively low priority for a lot of JP devs
i get the impression, at least with compa and a couple of other companies, that they literally only do it because they feel like they have to in order to catch the attention of the western audience who usually swears by PC. and speaking of the western audience, most people, from what i've seen, anyway, will actively ignore a game if it's not on steam, assuming they're not like you or me who are aware of alternatives.
i do wish it wasn't the case. i sometimes dream of a japanese PC storefront or another big console manufacturer.
>it's kinda hard to take PCfags extolling the benefits of PC as an open platform seriously when Steam is this centralizing.
one of the reason why i genuinely despise a lot of PCfags is because they're really not any better than nintendo or sony fans. i've been actively mocked for preferring playing games on switch, for going out of my way to play games in the way i prefer (physically and on console/handheld), i get called a corporate shill or bootlicker or some insult for trying to explain my point of view on things or for pointing out how a lot of PCfags' grievances towards consoles and nintendo/sony are often misguided or misinformed (or really not even that different from valve, every digital game distribution storefront sucks), and then these people will turn around and worship literally everything steam does, while turning a blind to all of its (imo, very legitimate and apparent) flaws, or in some cases, actively cheer when games i like get rejected or delisted.

...i got really angry there. but yeah i wish physical PC releases were still a thing
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>>8569
>aware of alternatives.
What decent and reliable alternatives are there? Ideally something that actually lets me buy the game rather than a licence and best case being that they host pretty much everything. I have used GOG a few times, mostly for older games. I vaguely remember someone here or on 4chan mentioning that GOG were also going to get rid of games they did not like.
>>8570
i was thinking of stuff like mangagamer
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>>8571
Do they only sell visual novels? It looks like that is most if not their entire library.
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>>8572
i mean, not literally only mangagamer
my point was more that there are other storefronts that're more accepting of these kinds of games, it'd theoretically be possible for companies like compile heart to release on those storefronts (or just do direct downloads themselves), i don't know what'd be stopping them

and for what it's worth, mangagamer has every english rance release, and is also where i got dohna dohna from, alicesoft is a pretty big name in japan and their games are genuinely really good
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>>8573
I figured but since that was the only one mentioned I could only check them out.
It is weird that neither side seems to start the talks about hosting it though. The suits in Japan probably think Steam is all they need for pc. Honestly not sure what the issue would be with them just selling it themselves. I imagine it would be better, at least for digital copies.

>rance
I had considered playing these games, only heard good things about them but I never got around to it. *Him not being into lolis does not help.* I do have Dohna Dohna but I never actually played it, I think they were behind Evenicle. I played that for a bit but that was years ago and I have not touched it since.
>>8567
>these retards actually think TERFs are right-wing, by the way
When compared to trannies, they are. You forget about concepts like the overton window. And that they're tactic for a long time is to consistently move the modern politics to the "Left", establish that point as the "New Normal", and then repeat the process all over again by making calls for how things need to be pushed to the "Left". Many Communist exactly expressed that it's their tactic to achieve their utopia, and it's a neverending process because keeping things "just the same" is "Right Wing" and "evil". Ever hear Reagon's classic quote:
<I didn’t leave the Democratic party, the Democratic Party left me.
>What did you think would happen as a result of "equalizing" men and women?
That's where you misunderstand, it was NEVER about "equality". It is about concepts like "equity". In fact, the "true back-to-the-basics" beliefs of Feminism is that the current system actually "exploits" men just as much as it does women because it prevents men from being their "true selves".

>>8570
>What decent and reliable alternatives are there?
In the West, the "only" alternatives for such games are storefronts like JAST and Mangagamer. Japan also has platforms like DLsite, Booth.pm, and DMM.
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>>8575
>Mangagamer
Excuse me, meant Zoom-Platform.
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>>8575
>>8576
>Zoom-Platform
This has hit me with a huge wave of nostalgia, not seen some of these games since I was about three or four playing on my dad's computer.
Looks like DLsite is probably my best bet though given the variety of software on that site compared to the Western exclusive ones. Generally speaking, visual novels only appeal to me if they are like Tokyo School Life in the sense that I can get furigana in them. Despite this I do appriciate the additional recommendations. ZOOM especially.
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>>8567
I miss old Compile Heart, too. Really, I miss Old Japanese media in general, and it's weird to call it old when it really was just a decade ago before they started trying to sanitize everything. I know not everything can last forever, but it still stings that everyone chose to either bow or stand, and unanimously everyone chose to bow. 


I'm sure it's a complex web of inter-company politics but that doesn't make the fact that the stuff I like is virtually gone and what's left is being hunted down hurt any less.
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>>8575
>When compared to trannies, they are. You forget about concepts like the overton window. And that they're tactic for a long time is to consistently move the modern politics to the "Left", establish that point as the "New Normal", and then repeat the process all over again by making calls for how things need to be pushed to the "Left". 
I've heard this called the 'Ratchet Effect' before. Though, I've heard it from a known leftist youtuber who was applying it to the right, but the same principle applies. In truth, I think it's mostly saturation. What people feel passing through a certain age internalize as 'normal' because it's all they have ever known and is their baseline for political belief, but in reality it's such a short amount of time that it barely registers as an era to anyone else who experiences it. It only takes a few years to force a new generation to internalize something as 'normal'. Then that becomes their overton window regardless of how the rest of the world thinks or acts. 

This is part of why there's such a fight over what gets taught in schools. These are the next generation's political beliefs. If they go to school and see menacing resource officers surrounded by high-security checkpoints and chain link, bookended by specific flags, slogans, and social media figures, they're less likely to question if disobedience is even an option. Which I think is the actual end-goal of this hellscape we find ourselves in now.


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>>8569
It really hurts being one of the first people who used to think Steam was going to emerge from all of this relatively unscathed, years ago. Only now realizing that by shunning storefronts and not immediately jumping ship to handhelds the microsecond Steam bent the knee was going to result in PC having zero viable storefronts. 

>>8570
Thankfully, AFAIK: GoG hasn't bent, yet. Alicesoft is still safe there.
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>>8579
>These are the next generation's political beliefs. If they go to school and see menacing resource officers surrounded by high-security checkpoints and chain link, bookended by specific flags, slogans, and social media figures, they're less likely to question if disobedience is even an option. Which I think is the actual end-goal of this hellscape we find ourselves in now.
My dad ran into a hilarious example of that a couple years ago. He was looking for work and nabbed a job teaching wood shop at a high school, and left the moment the year was up. It wasn't the kids, it was the administration that he had MAJOR issues with and drove him nuts. However during the year, as he tells it, one time a kid explained that he would be gone the following day because there was going to be some protests happening for "something", that was going to happen at a certain time and had received approval from the school administration. When my dad heard this, he asked the kid how exactly this was a protests when it was effectively a "school sanctioned gathering". And when the kid asked what he meant, my dad suggested that he arrive 10 minutes earlier than the "protest" was "suppose" to start. And from what I understand, considering something as simple as this little act of defiance just completely broke the kid's mind. Because, apparently, modern protests are spontaneously PLANNED instead of being...well, spontaneous. Also the incident sort of pissed my dad off because he grew up in the 60's and was around that culture living in 70's California. He's a die-hard Republican to the core and always has been. So, no, the hippies and the protestors you hear about during those periods were not all baizuo and Progressives.
>Thankfully, AFAIK: GoG hasn't bent, yet. Alicesoft is still safe there.
I don't believe they've yanked anything post-launch, yet.
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>>8580
I'm very glad that my state has a proud history of protest for that exact reason. I can see why they would want to pry the idea from kids heads that protests only work specifically because the government can't simply demand they stop inconveniencing them, and they do it. Which one would think is a common sentiment but as seen in recent years: it's not.


>I don't believe they've yanked anything post-launch, yet.
Good! There's still hope, then. When they start pulling 20+ year old games for the actions of banks today, then I go live with the amish.
>>8579
It was not even something I considered until it was too late to be honest. I just assumed it would be console issue.
>GoG hasn't bent, yet.
I would not hold my breath, especially in this day and age.
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>>8578
>2036
>Yo, choom, got some contra in the back for ya if you're interested. Want some JRPG? OG Xbox? Ohhh, Neptunia? Got a taste for the preem stuff, huh? Gotta keep it tight in the safe in the back, never know when those ESRB corpos are gonna roll up.
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>>8568
>>8568
>They have perfectly good reason to after Tokyo Clanpool got banned. Honestly, it's kinda hard to take PCfags extolling the benefits of PC as an open platform seriously when Steam is this centralizing. 
That's the thing though there is no reason they cant go back to selling a game on disk or pen drive it's only stuborness that stops companys from going back to an older way of selling.
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>>8584
>it's only stuborness that stops companys from going back to an older way of selling.
i'd already call this short-sighted since digital quite literally just sells better in most places and some people have actual reasons for preferring digital storefronts
but in the case of compile heart, an unironically small AA company that can't even afford to hire more programmers, and is constantly selling less and less with each release, i can understand why they wouldn't want to risk doing physical PC releases, despite how badly i'd love them to, especially after considering most people don't even have disc drives in their PC builds or laptops
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>>8585
If they're going to make thumb drives and sell a few thousand copies,there's not much of a risk because each can be made to order. They just need some DVD cases or something like that to put the game into, perhaps a 3D printed insert, a printer and a paper slicer. You can get going on this for less than $1000.
>>8583
>A cursed pocket of time and space where Neptunia is illegal
I want to gehaburn it down
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>>8587
That would make a very fun Cyberpunk-like spinoff game, where Arfoire takes over a megacorp and Goddess worship of any kind is illegal. but I shouldn't give more spinoff ideas to this company.
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>>8587
After the ridiculous circumstances of the SvS censorship, I have no doubt such a thing will happen at some point. With the steam push, the sony and now Nintendo issues, and all these censorship laws, it's not too hard for me to imagine anime games either being banned, or so sanitized they might as well be. And to be a bit more realistic, if Sony or Nintendo could legally door breach every retro store and destroy their stock CoD style they DEFINITELY would. Microsoft would be less likely since they don't give two shits about gaming at this point.

On a related note, Tsunako's comments on Nep 5 being reboot themed worry me, but I'm willing to see where it goes. Ironically Neptune herself is the one I'm most worried for, since if they wanted to they have two avenues to replace her. I have faith that CH won't kill their golden goose though.
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>>8588
Arfoire harnessing the power of PC hardware and taking over the futuristic PC Continent would be a proper in-universe setup for such a spinoff game.
I would love a Nep Cyberpunk game. Or a proper Nep TPS game at the very least Vtune showed that it's possible while Dimension Breaker showed it's actually fun when done properly. 
I just hope CH isn't going to take the lazy approach and reskin SLS.
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>>8590
Heck, I'd be happy if it were just another turn-based RPG. Though a shooter would be nice.
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>>8589
>since if they wanted to they have two avenues to replace her. I have faith that CH won't kill their golden goose though.
I wish i shared your faith that is the reason i have so far refused to buy the new one staring big nep, i dont want them to get it in there head that they can get away with doing that forever.
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>>8591
the only nep shooter game i'm willing to acknowledge hasn't been translated so I have to play it with the auto translator and edit the translations manually
>>8592
It seems more likely that they'll just change her costume, so we'll see what happens. I think they'll see push back on even that though, people weren't even terribly fans of the Jersry dress change back in the day if I recall
So i am considering buying Death end re;Quest: Code Z but want to know if it has been toned down or worse censored before parting with my cash.
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>>8569
>that they literally only do it because they feel like they have to in order to catch the attention of the western audience who usually swears by PC.
> most people, from what i've seen, anyway, will actively ignore a game if it's not on steam
I do think you're exaggerating PC's prominence in western video gaming. A large portion of gamers still play on consoles, easily enough that a PC release is far from mandatory. Within PC itself, though, yes, people will often ignore a game if it isn't on Steam, or they'll just pirate it. Even when ignorance isn't a factor, there's this extreme autism about "keeping their library" and maintaining it all in one place. This despite there being applications to congregate all your downloaded games from multiple storefronts and sources in one place. 
>one of the reason why i genuinely despise a lot of PCfags is because they're really not any better than nintendo or sony fans.
They are really not, at least Steam/Valvefags. Far too invested in Steam over other storefronts, defeating the point of an "open platform", all too willing to excuse them and their misgivings. I will give PCfags credit in that there are legitimate benefits to PC over consoles. The ease of modding and the lack of "generations" and emulation allowing fairly easy and cheap access to older games are both significant benefits PC has over consoles. But all in all, when it comes to publishing and content restrictions for modern releases, PC is not much better than consoles because of Steam's iron grip.

>>8570
On the western side, JAST, MangaGamer, Kagura Games, and ZOOM Platform come to mind. DEG Mods who are extremely committed to anti-censorship to the point they built it into the very design of their mod host site is also apparently working on a storefront, although it's in the very early stages. On the eastern side, DLSite, DMM, and Johren come to mind. The former two restrict western purchases in various ways. DLSite implemented an auto-filter mechanism earlier this year which region-locks titles containing certain keywords to allow only Japanese IPs to view and purchase them. It is not limited to R18 works either as a 12+ title, Menhera Farm, was initially region-locked until the dev complained to DLSite directly. Meanwhile, DMM just straight up locks non-Japanese IPs out of their online PC game store. All of these were in response to pressures from credit card companies, which is part of why it's imperative that their "brand protection" actions are restricted as quickly as possible.
>>8572
MangaGamer mainly sells eroge, yes. They do host a few qureate games, most notably Duel Princess which got rejected from Steam. Kagura Games does as well. But it does still make one wonder if they would take something like Tokyo Clanpool.
You may notice a lot of these storefronts were put up by publishers themselves. Kagura Games, MangaGamer and JAST all mainly deal in publishing and releasing games, not selling third-party games. It's likely they just threw up these storefronts as a backup in case they get rejected from Steam (and also to host the patches for the content they have to remove to get their games on Steam to begin with). ZOOM Platform on the other hand was established for the purpose of being a storefront first and foremost, basically an American competitor to GOG. Speaking of...
>>8579
>Thankfully, AFAIK: GoG hasn't bent, yet
For all intents and purposes, they have. They refused an uncensored version of Tokyo Clanpool (when they have Moero Chronicle and Mary Skelter with the exact same "problematic" content right there on their store uncensored) (second pic related) and have been refusing new releases from Japanese eroge publishers like Kagura Games (third pic related). They haven't outright removed any of the titles, yet, but they're not taking new ones. Have you noticed none of Alicesoft/MangaGamer's new releases have been on GOG? It probably has something to do with this.

>>8583
I don't imagine it'll be the ESRB here, they've nothing but fair to these games for two decades. I'd imagine it'd be more likely to be Snoy/Nintendo/Valve PMCs covertly funded by the government.
>After the ridiculous circumstances of the SvS censorship
That's another thing; yes it was ridiculous and a significant contributing factor to my refusal to buy it (the others being that it's neutered and that it's a Shitgear game). How dare they censor Blanc's wonderfully irreverent verbiage! But still, it was largely IFI's fault for fucking up the process and then choosing to just censor everything instead of resubmit. They even censored the PC versions for "parity" when they could have just left those untouched since PC stores do not require ratings.
>>8595
It's Snoy-friendly, so that means minimal ecchi, and it uses the censored Glitch Mode designs from DERQ 2 as the basis for the new characters based on the DERQ 1 cast. So yes, it's been "toned down" like basically every post-2020 Compile Heart game. I wonder if upping the gore and horror to CERO Z levels (the previous games were D) was in part to compensate for this.
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Something interesting to note. TurretGirls, a game developed by former Shade devs, released this week. It's cheap, but it has significant ecchi elements unlike most modern Japanese games including Compile Heart. It opened to decent nmubers on Steam, and it's on GOG as well. Meanwhile, here are the numbers from the two most recent CH releases on Steam. It's enough to give one pause. Granted, this may at least partially be because the games released on console first, whereas TurretGirls is (currently) a PC-exclusive, but it still paints a dim picture when they get absolutely crushed by a 10$ indie game from a newbie studio. Personally, TurretGirls is in my GOG wishlist and I plan to get it eventually. I'm not expecting to be wowed, but I'm hoping these former Shade devs manage to go somewhere and eventually make something on par with Bullet Girls.
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Oh, and news on Tokyo Clanpool's situation. The uncensor patch is apparently complete as of about a week ago, but they're waiting to announce and release it alongside something else bigger. What that is is anyone's guess, but they're insisting that GOG will remain the only PC store for Tokyo Clanpool. I don't why they would insist on that; they already lost Steam, and there was basically no chance Steam was ever going to host the uncensored game (they've been removing these modes from Compile Heart games as early as 2022 with Mary Skelter 2 and possibly even much earlier with the Mugen Souls games and Agarest War 2, although those could have been on Ghostlight). They may as well spread the game on any storefront they can. I'd really hate to have to buy this from GOG after they (the store that hosts Rance and Evenicle 2) insisted on censorship of a fucking Vita game. Also, though it should come as no surprise, the Switch version is permanently fucked.
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>>8598
>Oh, and news on Tokyo Clanpool's situation. The uncensor patch is apparently complete as of about a week ago, but they're waiting to announce and release it alongside something else bigger. What that is is anyone's guess, but they're insisting that GOG will remain the only PC store for Tokyo Clanpool. I don't why they would insist on that; they already lost Steam, and there was basically no chance Steam was ever going to host the uncensored game 
There is a VERY Shitty Valve policy that if your game gets rejected from game review once, then it's over. There is no appeal process, it's never getting on Steam's store. This has only ever been overturned once officially, and that was due to a game being rejected which was not risqué at all combined with a massive fan outcry and backlash. 

If you believe the rumors and leakers, there is a malicious Valve employee named only as 'Mary' who knows this, and intentionally uses it to stifle Japanese releases on Steam's store. Since Valve does review on a per-employee basis, it's a coinflip if it rolls across 'her' desk or someone else's desk and 'she' thinks all Japanese games are rape and will instantly reject it if it shows even a hint of skin, anime humor, or big, doughy eyes. 

We don't know if Tokyo Clanpool has been rejected from review without them telling us, but at the same time if they're saying it's only coming to GoG then outlook isn't too good of it ever getting to Steam. Mary likely killed the version that's going on every other console in review and they're aware of the sales they're missing because of it.
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>>8600
This is also why many games that have no business getting through Mary's review end up getting through: They won the coinflip, or they syndicated with a Japanese publisher like Atlus or Sega who gets a VIP express lane through the review process and has the clout and pull to tell Mary to fuck 'her'self.
Oh right, the game that people got unbanned was Spike Chunsoft's Chaos;Head Noah. It was a huge petition and campaign that involved flooding every named valve employee's email with complaints. I don't see Tokyo Clanpool getting that kind of support.
>>8596
>a 12+ title
I had no idea it was also affecting non adult games as well. Fucking hell man. DMM have been blocking IPs from this country for a while now, though I alwasy assumed it was just the for porn. I do wonder if that is because the cunts at the card companies were fucking around back then as well. Would not be hard to believe.
DEG Mods seems like a solid platform too, thanks for the recommendation, will keep it in mind. I hope they maintain that stance.

>MangaGamer
If that is their main product it is not for me. I am fine with light ecchi but something like Senran is probably my limit. I need to be in a certain mood to go through eroge and a lot of them just do not appeal to me. Might use them for whatever Hachiroku was from though, been curious about that one. And Shoujo Ramune if anyone had that, I think that one is worth buying.
Given my lack of interest you might find it strange that I asked for stores that allow everything, I just do not want to be confined to one that denies things at their discretion just because it is Japanese. Pretty sure Steam remove games as well.
ZOOM seems right up my alley though so thank you as well for that one.

>>8597
Looks like a tank in that image, will give it a look. I need more good tank games.
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>>8603
Never mind, it was not a tank.
>>8603
>I had no idea it was also affecting non adult games as well. Fucking hell man. DMM have been blocking IPs from this country for a while now, though I alwasy assumed it was just the for porn. 
That's why people are so pissed. This affects everything. If you do business with a company and they don't follow the unclear and ill-defined moral compass of the CEO of a big bank or payment processor, you can get punished alongside them on guilt by association, which is what keeps happening. In the old days, forcing an entire industry to only do business with people you allowed them to do business with was called a 'Trust'. We're just going through that again, sadly.
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>>8605
I figured people were pissed because they could see the writing on the wall. Guess I was just behind when it comes to Dlsite and DMM.
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>This has only ever been overturned once officially, and that was due to a game being rejected which was not risqué at all combined with a massive fan outcry and backlash. 
Another factor in Chaos;Head's ban being overturned was likely the fact that it released without issues on Switch. Valve was literally caught with their pants down by the fact that Nintendo of all people, the "fisher price tablet" as Steamdrones often call it, allowed a game they deemed was literally illegal. I strongly believe it was just as much Valve's sheer embarrassment over that as well as the outcry that caused them to undo their decision. Unfortunately, with Nintendo following them down the same anti-anime fanservice path, they are no longer there to keep Valve honest. Tokyo Clanpool's extremely restricted and censored release on Switch isn't going to give Valve much pause. 
Speaking of Chaos;Head, MAGES announced Switch ports of Chaos;Head and Chaos;Child Love Chu Chu in the form of a double pack. Unfortunately, with Nintendo having changed and Steam only getting worse, there's now little hope of them ever getting a western release, especially as they're dating sims set in a highschool ("OMG underage!") and one of the options is even a very petite flatty, arguably on the upper end of loli (pic related). As a result, you likely won't even see MAGES try to release it in the west, like with the Switch port of Hyperdevotion Noire where after the Re;Births got blocked and Riders censored, IFI evidently decided not to even bother trying to release it in the west because they knew it was futile. There's a small chance you may see Eastasiasoft pick it up after the Re;Births.
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>>8607
Well switch port of Noire allegedly sold catastrophically bad in JP, the number I've heard was sub 2000 physical. Shame, that's the only game besides riders I don't own physically.

On another note, how is Switch VII? My shelf is screaming for the full quartet
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>>8597
Huh, I posted a share on sleepy just now for it.
after getting banned from cakechan finding this place is like coming home. I remember when you guys came over during Eternal April. Sorry if I'm intruding, but I've had enough of a certain anus.
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>>8609
welcome fren
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>>8608
>Well switch port of Noire allegedly sold catastrophically bad in JP
That hasn't stopped IFI before. They still released Scar-Lead and are still going to release Calamity Angels despite them doing even worse. If anything, it's a motivator for them, the domestic market has shrunk considerably, which spurs these companies to become more reliant on western sales, only to be met with all these barriers demanding they adhere to "global standards" (neoliberal progressive social norms) and thus pushing them to sanitize their games to where the original fanbase is no longer satisfied and feels betrayed. I'll say it again; we need laws specifically restricting what corporations can censor on their platforms. Private censorship of major platforms has been the #1 way to circumvent the First Amendment and it's high time it be addressed. It utterly disgusts me to see cute anime girl games get this treatment while literal gay bear sex sims get mainstream spotlight.
>On another note, how is Switch VII
For the most part, it runs basically how you'd expect a Compile Heart Switch port to run; 30fps with dips. I say "for the most part" because there is one major noteworthy glitch that, while rare, has the potential to softlock your game at random. Very rarely, when you enter a battle, certain functions will not load as they should, signified by the "Now Loading" text sticking around at the bottom of the screen instead of disappearing. When this happens, you won't be able to move your character around the battlefield and they will be stuck running in place facing a specific direction (usually left). With much effort, you can try and push the stick to make them jerk briefly in a direction to attack what's directly in their range. This bug also exists in the Switch port of Fairy Fencer F Advent Dark Force and is more common there, but it is much worse in Neptunia VII when it happens because there are ways to mitigate it in FFF, since all characters have a wide circular range that can be upgraded and they can attack anything in that range, it's easier to get around there, and if all else fails, there are skills and items to instantly terminate the encounter and re-initiate it without the glitch occurring. No such items or skills exist to auto escape encounters in VII and character attack ranges are much more limited, thus if you can get into a battle where none of your characters can attack enemies from their initial positions, it is essentially a softlock. I believe I may have footage of this glitch on my Switch, but I don't have a way of directly uploading it here, so if you absolutely want it, I can try to get it with my phone. All in all, keep this in mind if you decide to buy VII on Switch (as well as Fairy Fencer F). It is rare, but it is nasty. Oh, there's also the bug with carrying over characters on NG+ potentially locking you out of the DLC characters' events and final weapons, but I don't think that's exclusive to the Switch version.
>>8609
Welcome. I've been here and posting intermittently ever since. I basically keep a tab open constantly. I wish the rest of /nepgen/ would come here (minus one IFtard), but alas, they seem too comfortable on 4Chan and its shitty moderation, userbase, captchas and posting limits. If I may, what got you banned from cakechan? Was it over criticizing Nintendo or Steam? Moderation over there is especially trigger happy with anything critical of those two, or at least Nintendo. It kinda hurts to see because I myself am a giant Tendie, or at least used to be until they followed Soyny down the "fuck anime and fuck Japan" path.
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>>8611
>we need laws specifically restricting what corporations can censor on their platforms.
Based.
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>>8608
>how is Switch VII?
Overclocking is mandatory if you want a decent experience. If you're willing to go down that road then make sure you max out the clocks. This game has an annoying forced frameskip mechanism that halves the 60FPS target when console is under pressure, making intermediary FPS values impossible. I think this was done because developers tied physics updates/gamespeed to a fixed FPS value. Framerate dependency a recurring problem in CH programming that affects games regardless of the engine. SVS, SLS, Neptunia RPG... all affected. The frameskip is unique to VII, though.
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>>8613
Overclocking requires *ahem* CFW, does it not? I wouldn't suggest it unless you know he has a modded Switch.
Anyway, while I would not consider myself savvy with these things in the slightest, I did notice in Re;Birth 3 (PC) that some oddities with the animations and other things occurred when I was playing with uncapped FPS. Things like the effects for the HDD transformations occurring at the wrong time or voice lines for attacks strangely cutting off ("FROZEEEEN DEEEMOO-"), which is why part of why I capped it at 60fps (that and casting to my TV which is capped at 60hz).
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>>8614
>CFW
Hence the Arfoire (Chrome) pircrel. Overclocking/undervolting is a very welcome addition to NX and Nintendo doesn't even ban you for it (as long as you don't play pirated games in the same environment you play online games from). Japanese play Apex like that all the time). It also affects some games with dynamic resolutions. 
The only downside is that Blanc would smash me to pieces if she knew about my modchipped Switch... but she doesn't have to know, right?
>oddities with the animations 
Neptastic author tried to decouple as many things from the FPS counter as possible, but some of them are still affected (battle transitions, quantum tunnepping and OOB) in Rb1 GOG version. 
Transitions being faster is a very welcome addition, though. It gives the game a better tempo and makes dungeon farming quicker with no underhand changes to game difficulty or mechanics.
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>>8615
>Blanc would smash me to pieces
I have enough faith in the goddesses to expect them to understand why people do this and sort it out with the next set of hardware. They might have the disadvantage of being based on companies making bad decisions in reality but they are not stupid or unwilling to discuss things.
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>>8615
I've been almost squeaky clean when it comes to not modding and getting my games "legit" so far, so I suppose I can happily say that I won't be invoking her ire over that. It's largely because I'm afraid of fucking everything up, and on my Switch in particular, since I've never had a Nintendo Online Membership, none of my data is backed up and sometimes that makes me nervous. There was this one time where my Switch took a long time to power on for some reason and it scared the daylights out of me because I thought it just died on me out of nowhere until it suddenly sprung to life. 
>>8617
>but they are not stupid or unwilling to discuss things
You're probably wrong on that front. ALL of the goddesses have a hardline stance against modding and game piracy. Even happy-go-lucky Neptune advocates life sentences for copying games. And Blanc, fittingly as she's Nintendo, is the most hardline and unforgiving of all of them. Imagine what SHE would do.
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>>8618
>It's largely because I'm afraid of fucking everything up
It's much harder to completely destroy your console after the chip's on board, but the installation is hard and needs to be outsourced unless you're a gearhead.
By the way, are you planning on getting NX2?
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>>8619
>NX2
The Switch 2? No, several things, but mostly the Sony-style anti-anime censorship has heavily disillusioned me with Nintendo. I railed against Soyny for years and championed Nintendo and the Switch as the home for weeb games and pushed for Compile Heart and similar developers to move their games there full-time and stop taking Sonygro's policies into account. The cancellation of the Re;Births and Tokyo Clanpool's censorship was a betrayal I have yet to forgive. Both (or all four) were among my most anticipated games of 2024 and Nintendo instantly ruined the whole year for me. There were a few other things like the Paper Mario TTYD remaster troonwashing Vivian, but that was when the thread snapped inside of me.
It still hurts to feel this betrayed by the goddess I put all my faith in. Even if I still can't fully bring myself to not love her, much less hate her.
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>>8618
Yeah, going off of how mk2 played out I might be. This is a case where I REALLY do not want to be though. If I am I guess it would just be a "don't ask, don't tell" situation.
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>>8620
Personally, I have only one argument in favor of buying one... but I decided I'd treat myself to a $16 force feedback wheel and emulate it instead.
>Tokyo Clanpool
Never played it before, I have some Nep games to finish before moving on to the rest of CH's library... but I'm honestly kind of stuck with stalling HDN2010 and a strong desire to drop GMRE. Should I give TC or DERQ series a try when I'm done with Nep 2010?
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>>8622
i'm admittedly a bit biased, but i heavily recommend DERQ, assuming you're not someone who dislikes more serious stories (i've met a few nep fans who apparently really don't like that kind of thing, which strikes me as...odd)
the gameplay and battle system is essentially a more refined version of nep's, so you shouldn't have too much trouble jumping in, and i really love its story and writing. the first two DERQ games aren't terribly long either, i want to say my first run in both games took me 20 hours or so this is a mild spoiler, but both games want you to do a ng+ run to get the full story. a ng+ for either game also shouldn't take you too long, especially in DERQ 1 where the first 9/10ths of the story doesn't change at all so you can just skip most of the cutscenes during your second run and be fine
DERQ Z is...definitely longer. i'm about 7/10ths of the way through i think, and my playtime in it is already longer than my first two runs of 1 and 2 combined. DERQ Z is also a roguelite (think Pokémon Mystery Dungeon), so its gameplay might take some getting used to. i'd only recommend Code Z if you finish 1 and 2 and are super into those games' stories, since the story and writing is easily the highlight of the game.
none of the DERQ games have major content differences between regions either, unlike Tokyo Clanpool where the only english release it has is missing a gameplay mechanic, so there's also that if you're the kind of person who's particular about that kind of thing (one of the blancfags mentioned this earlier, but DERQ 2 and Z both got hit by the sony thing, so both of those are...i'd argue only mildly toned down compared to the first game, since it's just the characters' transformation forms that got affected, but my point is that you're getting the same experience with every version of the game)
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Somewhat tangentially-related news: JAST just got kicked out of a Texas anime con. People are speculating it had to do with the new law, but there was no mention of it and JAST says they just got kicked out by the con itself. Even if the law was their main motivating factor, this is part of why I am in favor of laws restricting private censorship; because these entities will take the "safest" possible path and never actually ask "is the content actually illegal? Am I screwing over people who aren't actually committing any crimes?". These laws want to compel companies to self-censor to a ridiculous degree and I'm sick of it. If this shit is actually illegal, make Uncle Sam get off his lazy fucking ass and enforce it, not rely on these companies to janny for him for free.
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>>8623
>Someone who dislikes more serious stories
If they're the ones who advocate against making Neptunia slightly more dramatic and egdy (I remember them making that point after Dimension Breaker fangame was mentioned a long time ago)... then I'm not them. And I'm completely fine with thick, dark, borderline schizo plots... even if it's an incomprehensible mix of folk tales, HP Lovecraft and Dark Souls.
>>8624
That one was ridiculous. The con kicked them out under the false pretense since they made so referring to a law that's supposed to combat AI-generated CSAM material. 
I don't know whether it's the con's fault for being a total wuss or if there's some very damning broadspeak that was snuck inside of SB20... but this is just ridiculous that a company of artists who probably have a stance against AI get kicked because of anti-AI law. This doesn't make any sense.
>>8622
>strong desire to drop GMRE
What makes you want to drop it? Writing, gameplay or both?

>>8623
>nep fans who apparently really don't like that kind of thing
Did they only play V, U and Zombies or something?
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>>8624
Source for this: https://archive.ph/u2URf
>>8626
>What makes you want to drop it?
X to win fights that only take time with notbing remotely difficult or interesting about them, insane side quest kill counts (dozen of Grandogoos etc.), uninteresting plot, BRAINDEAD PUZZLES THAT TAKE AWAY CONTROL AND PAN THE CAMERA ON EVERY ACTION, and no usual Neps far enough in the game to make their absence uncomfortable.
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>>8628
The first two sound like SvS. That puzzle camera does sound pretty shit and annoying.
I was already missing Neptune and the other goddesses when they were absent in SvS, so it sounds like I will not like this game much myself.
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>>8629
>The first two sound like SvS. That puzzle camera does sound pretty shit and annoying.
Quests were much more tolerable in SVS than they are in GMRE.
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>>8631
That does not bode well. Last time I was on I had two quests that required items that seem to barely ever drop. Just gave up on them eventually. Not like I need the shares from quest completion anyway, or whatever the reward was.
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>>8632
SvS had two or three annoying quests in the mid game. 
GMRE, on the other hand, doesn't wait to give you some really annoying quests. "kill X enemies", for example. It takes quite some time to run across the map to find the enemy you're looking for... and it takes even more to kill X of them because you have to wait for respawns.
There's always Nepbike to help you traverse the mob spawn locations but:
1) Nepbike is kind of clunky to ride
2) You will bump into unwanted encounters when riding this thing in narrow dungeons sooner or later
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