/retro/ - Y2K

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The Shield was based as fuck back in the early 2000's.

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Obligatory Monday Night Wars mention.

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These ones come to mind. The X-Files is on my backlog somewhere. I never got around to watching it but remember how big it was at the time.

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>>244
Get the F back.

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>>244
I come from the future to show you what WWF became.

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>>291

>>244
>>290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGKlwhQQR8o

I watched wrestling almost religiously from 1995 - 2005. Every single day I wish the "F" would come back. We need some fucking attitude in wrestling. I still attempt to get back into it once and a while every few years but I just can't stick with it. I  might watch the royal rumble but I just don't know.

>>291
LOL! Pretty much this.

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>>294
Agreed. 

I think the Attitude Era was awesome, but it was also one of those "perfect storm" moments where its success had a lot to do with both the culture of the time and the fact that WWF was up against WCW (and ECW to a lesser extent) 

Honestly, the lack of serious competition is the main reason why WWE went to shit. Hopefully AEW will light a fire under Vince's ass and we can see a better era for wrestling.

>>295
I'm behind a few weeks with AEW. So I'm not sure what's been currently going on. But it was losing traction and actually losing against NXT. So it's not looking good unless things have changed. But yeah, the "Monday Night Wars" as well as ECW as exactly the reasoning behind the major pushes being done during the time. Plus just the culture being vastly different. People weren't "triggered" and offended over every little thing during the time. People knew how to enjoy something and life wasn't so politicized. I can tell you though since AEW came out WWE has been "more edgy" in terms of more recent years. Still nothing great but a small improvement I guess is better than none at all. The sad reality remains though, we will never see another attitude era.

>>291
>waiter, there is a fly in my shit and vomit salad

>>299
LOL!

When's the last time you watched wrestling?

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love(d) this shit to death

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKebLNk04is

https://peertube.co.uk/videos/watch/4eeb46bb-4e94-459b-9439-4e0db89f32a1 

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I just got the first nine seasons of The Simpsons on DVD. Feels good, man. I'm looking forward to re-watching some episodes.

 I remember even really liking the first season and its roughness from the other times I've seen it, while most people seem to think it's pretty inferior to the following seasons. It might not be as funny as those ones, but the plots I find really memorable. I also love how loose and rough around the edges the animation is.

It's just too bad the dead horse of a show didn't stop getting beaten a long time ago. They should have treated it with some dignity and respect and let it rest in peace.

>>867
>most people seem to think it's pretty inferior to the following seasons
Maybe back then, but nowadays with nostalgiafagging at an all time high and simpsonswave being the latest trend, people are appreciating the old seasons more and more.

>>868
Despite that, most people don't seem to consider the first season part of the "Golden Age." I'm not sure I would either, but I do consider it the most charming and personally nostalgic (although I only started watching the show close to two decades after it started airing).

What I have noticed is that there seems to be a renewed interest in the Mike Scully seasons, likely due to how much the show has continued to decline since he stopped as the showrunner. I've heard it said that the memes and quotes the show almost always come from the peak years of the show, but even the post-classic Scully era spawned a few, like the "damned Scots" speech and the "stupid sexy Flanders" scene. Even the full-on zombie years had some of its own though, so that might not be saying much.

>>867
I find the first season to be the best in terms of substance.
>>868
It's not out of nostalgia, it's unanimously held that in the 8th-10th seasons it went to shit.

>>870
>I find the first season to be the best in terms of substance.
I definitely appreciate how grounded in reality it feels in comparison to a lot of the later stuff. The same goes for Beavis and Butt-head as a show compared to how outlandish the plot of the movie was. It completely lost that slice-of-life feeling of two idiot teenagers trying to stave off boredom that made me love it so much.

That's not to say either of those were bad, but I don't think I like the more outlandish style as much.
>It's not out of nostalgia, it's unanimously held that in the 8th-10th seasons it went to shit.
I've seen some people say that "Behind the Laughter" should have been the last episode.

From what I remember of watching those later seasons back in high school, I found them funny enough but far more cartoonish in nature. Some of it felt like they were trying too hard to ride the coattails of shows like Family Guy and South Park though, as opposed to the balance between realism and cartoon humor that "Golden Age" Simpsons had.

But even in the classic Simpsons seasons cracks would occasionally show. "Deep Space Homer" is a fondly remembered episode from way back in season five, but the basic premise feels a lot like a forerunner of the over-the-top zaniness the Simpsons would later get up to. "Lisa the Vegetarian" was season seven, and that featured one of the poorly integrated celebrity appearances the show would later become known for. To get Paul and Linda McCartney on board, the show had to agree to keep Lisa as a vegetarian from then on. They should have just stopped sucking up to the McCartneys and told them to take a hike,

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Puréed essence of the mid-2000s.

>>1137
That was one of the only Adult Swim shows I ever got into, around the same time I was just getting into metal. I'll always remember the "food library" bit. I might have to revisit the show sometime.

I've found this a while ago when I was trying to familiarize myself with Singapore. I think I will use this thread to post similar things whenever I come across them.
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Kstf6FXBpAY

>>1315
I just got done watching that. It was pretty good.

>>1137
Good shit. I also watched Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

>>871
The episodes where Lisa became a vegetarian and Buddhist should have been the signs of the obnoxious preacher she would become in later seasons. Her ruining the pig BBQ pissed me off even as a kid considering the pig was already dead. Amazing how that inspired similar failed vegan "protests" today.
The same thing happened in Family Guy with Brian, although his change was far more drastic. Somehow the writers for Brian thought it was smart to make him an atheist despite him also having met Jesus. I'm not sure if he was actually religious in the early seasons, but he was definitely far less of an asshole.

>>1405
>The episodes where Lisa became a vegetarian and Buddhist should have been the signs of the obnoxious preacher she would become in later seasons. Her ruining the pig BBQ pissed me off even as a kid considering the pig was already dead. Amazing how that inspired similar failed vegan "protests" today.
Absolutely. She was a complete bitch even then.

The first season of Rugrats is actually very funny.

>>1405
>Somehow the writers for Brian thought it was smart to make him an atheist despite him also having met Jesus
South Park is also weird like that, with various characters witnessing other deities' gods performing miracles and retaining their religions. It's not meant to be consistent, those shows are episodic with their beliefs played for laughs.

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>27 posts
>still no CN City

>>1449
That was the time Cartoon Network started circling the drain for me.

>>1433
Rugrats has a lot more jokes/references aimed at adults than I realized, especially if you pay attention to the adults' conversations between scenes with the babies. I'll probably re-watch the first couple seasons at some point to see what else I missed.
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>>1449
>CN City
May as well post some CN Groovies. These are my personal favorites.
>Ed Edd n Eddy ~ My Best Friend Plank
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hK99vZerSdc
>Ed Edd n Eddy ~ Incredible Shrinking Day
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=yUPCb8Uu_0w
>Jabberjaw
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Vn1pf0Xi3nU
>Yogi Bear Jam
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zEZJ_mLUNPc

The rest are here.
https://yewtu.be/playlist?list=PL9FD4A7B64B840D7F

>>1449
>31 posts
>still no Boomerang
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>>1460
Thanks, I forgot what those were called. Yogi Bear Jam is actually better than I remembered.
Who did the music for Boomerang/Cartoon Network? Even for commercials and bumpers a lot of the sound production or songs they made were really good.

>>1463
I used to wake up early on Saturday mornings and watch the Boomerang stuff when it would come on Cartoon Network, like Herculoids and the original Space Ghost series. I wanted the actual channel as a kid but never got it.

>>1464
I had it for a few years with Time Warner, but later they dropped it along with a bunch of other channels my parents watched. I still watched it on occasion at my aunt and uncle's house when I visited because they paid for a bunch of extra channels. My uncle was surprised kids were interested in the classic Hanna Barbera shows he grew up watching, and actually enjoyed re-watching them with us when he had time.
Too bad it's used now as a dumping ground for relatively recent CN shows. Even some early 2000s shows they haven't aired in years would fit better considering they're close to 20 years old now. If millenials still watched TV they could even re-use classic bumpers like CN City or Powerhouse for nostalgia. Boomerang is a re-run network anyway. Nostalgia is its main purpose.

>>1465
>I had it for a few years with Time Warner, but later they dropped it along with a bunch of other channels my parents watched. I still watched it on occasion at my aunt and uncle's house when I visited because they paid for a bunch of extra channels. My uncle was surprised kids were interested in the classic Hanna Barbera shows he grew up watching, and actually enjoyed re-watching them with us when he had time.
I was just as interested in older shows as newer ones as a kid, maybe even more. One of my favorite shows on Cartoon Network was ToonHeads, but they stopped airing that not that long after I first discovered it. I guess I was interested in history even before I thought of it as history

Nowadays I'm even more of a grognard than I was then.
>Too bad it's used now as a dumping ground for relatively recent CN shows. Even some early 2000s shows they haven't aired in years would fit better considering they're close to 20 years old now. If millenials still watched TV they could even re-use classic bumpers like CN City or Powerhouse for nostalgia. Boomerang is a re-run network anyway. Nostalgia is its main purpose.
Channels like MeTV do the same thing too from what I've heard. I haven't been a regular TV viewer in a long time, but it kind of defeats the whole point to me to have newer stuff on a channel dedicated to classic boomer TV shows.

I miss the experience of sitting down and watching TV, but there's no going back for me after discovering torrents as a teenager. What sucks is that a lot of the torrents that interest me are completely dead.

>>1466
>I miss the experience of sitting down and watching TV, but there's no going back for me after discovering torrents as a teenager.
Pretty much. Even though TV is nice to just sit down and watch something, it's hard to beat being able to look up anything you want and not have to sit through commercials. Even if Boomerang didn't have commercials, you still had to wait for the exact hour or half-hour for a show to air.

>MeTV
I forgot about it. It has a mix of classic shows and cartoons, but doesn't have the full cartoon catalog Boomerang does. It's also has commercials which I don't have the patience to sit through anymore.

>>1466
>I was just as interested in older shows as newer ones as a kid
Same. It probably helped that older cartoons were just trying to be entertaining while modern cartoons more often had to start adding educational or moral lessons. (usually due to outside influence)
Not having to wait for new episodes was also a plus. Most of the time I watched episodes of Jetsons, Looney Tunes, etc it was something I hadn't seen before.

>>1467
Yeah, the commercials are a deal breaker for me nowadays. I have zero patience for them anymore. I'd rather just download a bunch of episodes of a show or buy it on physical media than sit through them. Even if it's better on paper, it kind of feels cheap though. I remember how big of a big deal it felt like when a show I liked would come on compared to watching episodes at my own convenience.
>>1468
>Not having to wait for new episodes was also a plus. Most of the time I watched episodes of Jetsons, Looney Tunes, etc it was something I hadn't seen before.
I remember really liking the Jetsons movie from the '80s as a really little kid, which I think was actually considered a piece of crap.  As bad of a reputation as Hanna-Barbera has, I always liked The Flintstones, The Jetsons, and Jonny Quest. Scooby-Doo was kind of repetitive to me, but I still enjoyed that too. That also goes for the '70s stuff with Scrappy Doo and the celebrity guest stars.  I even liked the direct-to-video stuff, although I never saw anything after Scooby-Doo and the Cyber Chase.

>>1472
>As bad of a reputation as Hanna-Barbera has
To be fair a lot of their reputation was with their cheap animation and Scooby-Doo knockoffs. (Some of them I didn't mind, but I would have gotten sick of them sooner without watching other shows.) The Flintstones, The Jetsons, and Jonny Quest were all good. Even Jetsons just being "Flintstones in the future" was more creative than most of their Scooby-Doo knockoffs.

>I even liked the direct-to-video stuff
The direct to video Scooby Doo movies in the 90s/early 2000s were great. It was actually cool watching them deal with actual supernatural stuff instead of a guy in a mask.

>it kind of feels cheap though. I remember how big of a big deal it felt like when a show I liked would come on compared to watching episodes at my own convenience
You're right. It's not as special to watch a show at anytime compared to when you waited until 7p on a Friday night for that new episode to come out. It doesn't help that younger generations are getting less patient and have shorter attention spans. I think the most special TV moments to me were the series finales of Avatar & Ed Edd n Eddy, especially considering most shows on Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network would end quietly instead.

>Avatar had gone through a couple hiatuses
>out of nowhere we get this trailer I still re-watch today https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5avd9_8rXH0
>that week in July finally comes
>new episodes every night finishing off with the final movie on Friday
>Ed Edd n Eddy advertises its final movie
>we straight up got a 24 hour marathon of every episode finishing off with the movie premiere
>Cartoon Network wanted to give a proper send-off for its longest running series and fucking delivered
My siblings and I were hyped for weeks waiting. Moments like that you can't replicate with livestreaming. It's not the same.

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Do you guys know any similar 90s cyberpunk or internet related movies with similar aesthetics? I fucking love this shit, especially Hackers

>>1734
More similar to Johnny Mnemonic,
Strange Days
Lawnmower Man

Closest think to Hackers is probably Anti-trust.

>>1734
Matrix

>>1734
One lesser known cyberpunk movie from the 90s is Ghost in the Machine (1993), very cheesy with lots of dated CGI and "computers are magic" moments, but still a delight to watch.

>>1761
>Strange Days
Man I fucking loved that movie, leagues above JM too.

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>>1764
>Ghost in the Machine (1993), very cheesy with lots of dated CGI and "computers are magic" moments
Nice, need to check it out.

>>1766
Why is Big Eyeball Man scarfing down sausage links?

>>1798
Cause he's tubular.

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>sci-fi
>traditional 2D animation mixed with CGI
>nu-metal soundtrack
Titan A.E. the epitome of Y2K

>>2016 (CY+1)
Been meaning to watch it. It's strange how that poster looks like a game/movie poster from the late 2000s, but it's actually from the beginning of the decade.

>>2033
It was a good movie. Not nearly as cringe as what would come out starting at the end of the decade. Really tried to remain grounded but also blatantly incorporated the dropships from mechwarrior as "terraforming ships" It deserved to be a cult classic since it also had the most alien depiction of aliens I've ever seen in visual fiction. 

Board owner. WHY THE FUCK DO WE HAVE TO TYPE TWO FUCKING CAPTCHKAS!?

"YOU NEED TO PASS A BLOCK TO MAKE THIS POST!"

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I need lesser-known /retro/ Christmas kino. Not interested in shit everyone's seen like Home Alone. 
Preferably with "wholesome" elements (and curse the reddit faggots who've tainted that word)

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Recently I watched a documentary from the eraly 2000's about ufos. They really put some effort doing this sick animation for the purpose.
Really like the vibe and the music.

>>2806
Nice find anon, that animation is cool. Source?

>>2807
It's a french documentary by Pascal Carron named En quête d'ovnis.
You can watch it here :
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I'm surprised no-one mentioned The Matrix, which I think embodied the 90s "leather trenchcoats and twin uzis are awesome" edge and 00s "the computer is going to kill us all" fear better than almost any film ever made.  It's a shame the rest of the series became total Hollywood garbage, but I suppose that's to be expected when the initial movie is such an absolutely stellar product.  The cultural impact this movie had almost defies description.  Even phrases like redpill and bluepill have endured decades after the film itself has faded from memory.  The cultural wake this movie cast was massive.
>the cinematic concept of "bullet time," which is now used in everything
>the 360 shot of Trinity hanging in the air about to jump-kick (which just so happens to get a great panorama view of her ass in skintight leather)
>the shot of Trinity jumping from roof to roof across the street during the opening
>Neo dodging bullets
>Neo stopping bullets with his mind
>"there is no spoon" boy
>Morpheus's reflective black pince-nez glasses, which suits him perfectly despite sounding incredibly fucking stupid
There were parodies and homages to this fucking everywhere, from other blockbuster films to Flash animations.  One of my personal favorites: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=P4lxoqAVm00

I just finished watching it over a couple of nights.  Some of the CGI and martial arts are dated or silly-looking, but there's a surprising amount of it that holds up well.  I recall hearing once that for some of the more advanced CG shots, the Wachowski brothers took truly inhumanly detailed computer scans of actors likenesses - I'm talking terabytes of visual data at a time when a Compact Disc was new.

Perhaps more than just the film's quality and effects was its packaging of philosophical ideas in a way that modern audiences could understand.  The information age was and still is unsatisfying and hollow, and there have been hundreds of millions of men like Neo who wish they could wake up from what feels like a dream or facade.  Lots of them are like Cypher, and will ultimately be consumed by the machine or choose to be consumed by it because they don't have faith the way Morpheus and Trinity do (the only ones who survive by the end, along with Tank the tech guy).  In the 90s, these guys were hackers and webmasters.  These days, they're anonymous shitposters or artists like Negative XP (formerly School Shooter).  The pain at the center of them is still the same.

It's been many years since I saw the Matrix sequels, but I'm not sure if I want to revisit them considering how hollow the ending to the series is.  Perhaps I'll finally get around to watching the spinoffs like The Animatrix and suchlike.

>>2942
It is also, from a movie-making perspective, very well-structured. The initial sequence in particular does a great job of quickly and effectively setting everything up from a story, thematic, genre, effect, and general cinematic perspective.

>>2942
>>2944
Yeah anon The Matrix is fantastic, the sheer style alone has a mesmerizing quality. The sequels may not be as good but Reloaded has some killer fights which make it worth watching I think.

>>2942
I never saw The Matrix until the second half of the 2000s, but I remember how constantly people would reference bullet time in the early years of the decade. I remember hearing the bullet dodging referred to as "doing The Matrix" when I was in elementary school.

I actually saw Revolutions at a friend's house before I ever saw the first movie. I didn't enjoy it, and it didn't help that I had no clue what was going on. The same friend had an Xbox, and I remember playing Enter the Matrix with him one day when he had it as a rental.

>>2942
>I'm surprised no-one mentioned The Matrix
>being this new

>>2949
Enter The Matrix was a game with a lot of pretty neat ideas, but it had very strange controls which hampered it.  Seems that the Wachowski Brothers were ahead of their time, given how popular "cinematic" linear games with scripted set pieces are these days.

Fun fact: the game even has a fighting game VS mode that you can unlock through the hacking side of it, though it's pretty bad.

>>2952
I don't remember that much of it other than that I seemed to think it was a better game than a review of it I saw at the time would have led me to believe, there was some kind of bullet time mechanic, and that I thought it was fun running up the walls.

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I think that Underworld and The Bourne Identity do a great job of capturing the aesthetic of the early 2000s. Dark, gritty, and while not the pinnacle of storytelling or filmmaking do have very good moments.

>>2942
I think the coolest CGI scene in the first film is when the helicoptor crashes into the glass skyscraper, and for a brief moment you see the glass warp and reflect everything around it before shattering. I saw it in theaters in 2019 as part of a 20th anniversary special and seeing it in IMAX was awesome.
I've never finished the whole trilogy, never seen the last one although my friend spoiled it and told me what happened without even asking, gee thanks bro, I have the whole trilogy in 4K on my media server so maybe someday I'll watch it again.

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>no one mentioned Shrek yet
The first 2 movies were great. I know the 1st movie was more memorable for memes and Smash Mouth, but the 2nd movie was much better overall. The Holding Out For A Hero cover scene was one of my favorite climaxes in any movie.

>>3308
I had forgotten how funny that movie was. Thanks for making/posting that Anon. Cheers.

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What do you guys think of The X-Files? I've been going through the first season lately having never watched anything other than the pilot episode a while ago. I've found it kind of underwhelming so far. There are a few things in particular that bother me. One is the fact that it doesn't even seem to trying to hide the that it was shot in the Pacific Northwest while still trying to pass it off as other locations. I know it's not big of a deal and that other shows do that too, but it still irritates me. The least they could have done is to at least hide the big mountains if they're trying to portray a Midwestern state, for example. A bigger problem for me is that the writers don't always seem that familiar with the subject matter they're supposed to be dealing with. A glaring example of that for me is the episode with the Jersey Devil. The Jersey Devil is supposed to be a flying monster similar to a bipedal horse or deer that lives in the New Jersey Pine Barrens. But Scully made a remark about it being like an "East Coast bigfoot" or something to that effect, which Mulder never corrected her for. The episode then goes even further and ends up portraying Jersey Devils as being a surviving population of cave men, one of which wanders into Atlantic City. There's some corny dialogue, but it's the basic premise of the episode that's the more noticeable problem for me. I blame Chris Carter, since he's the one who came up with the idea and wrote the episode. I imagine that he's at least familiar with what the creature's actually supposed to be like but chose to ignore it anyway. On another episode, a UFOlogist character asks Mulder if he's a member of CSICOP and makes a comment about it being a new organization. In reality, CSICOP was around since the '70s. You'd think given his background that he'd know better.

I don't think it's a bad show or anything from what I've seen, but as someone with an interest in the subject matter these aspects detract from it. I guess my expectations might have been a bit too high though.

>>3312
I've been meaning to check it out but from your description it sounds like it doesn't really explore its source material properly.

>>3313
I definitely plan on finishing the first season but am not sure if I'll continue when I'm done with that. I've always had the mindset that I have to watch an entire series if I start to watch a certain show, but I'd like to stop feeling so obligated to see everything through to the end. I've heard that the show started to get crappy even in the later seasons of the original run anyway.

>>3312
If you'd like someone on zzzchan hosts TV night every wednesday night at 7:00 est, and the x-files is part of it
https://zzzchan.xyz/vhs/thread/715.html

>>3318
Thanks for letting me know. I'm too much of an autist for that though. I'm trying to watch the show in chronological order. Right now I'm a little past halfway through season one. Time will tell if I end up watching anything past that.

>>3320
funny, that's exactly where they are as well. watching S01E19 next week.

>>3321
They're a little bit ahead of me then. "Gender Bender" is the next episode for me, but I've been falling behind.

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This is the craziest nostalgic TV show you've never heard of: From 1980s California. This show's format was STOLEN (and ruined) by Jerry Springer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkaY7zquMd8

>The host
Wally George. An angry, loudmouth Republican who shouts down HILARIOUS liberal guests and always trash talks them

>The show
HOT SEAT. This was Southern California's most HIGH ENERGY show at the time. It was a must see to locals who lived near Disneyland.

>The guests
The guests were pre-selected to be loony crazy liberals, and they are just too funny. And they're real people (even when the show can seem fixed).

This is a must see. 
It's a testament to how much retro shit you'll never see because no one will ever remember it/post about it.

(Sad!)

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Another classic one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2uyP_25QBk

Jim Myers is pretty much the best thing about the show. He's the crazy liberal everyone wanted to see.

>>3361
I learned about this show from Jim Goad's appearance on there. I don't know how much of it was serious and how much was an act.

>>3363
It's serious.

I've paid attention and the reason it seems "fixed" is: REASON 1--Wally was a neurotic messed up individual. He wasn't a bad guy bit he had a hard life. So he was running the show and acted kind of goofy.

Reason 2: He invited on genuinely crazy/crazy acting people every week to make his show even more entertaining. And he would do anything he could to antagonize them and get them riled up.

So these factors added up into making his show seem "fake." But it wasn't fake.

Freshly uploaded 
Wally classic show!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIDRJHcpoFE

This one from 2 weeks ago is also spicy AF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqXMg1xnLVk

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>>3376
OK. Wow!
So I just watched these.

Born 1983 in Southern California. Kid in 1990s. I feel like I just got teleported back to 1995 in a time machine. This is really good shit. Thank you for sharing these!

X-filesfag here. I took my time finishing up the first season, and I ended up liking the last episode enough that I think I'm going to continue watching the show after taking a break with some other stuff first.

>>3422
Interesting, let us know if it picks up in season 2 when you get around to it anon.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lwkyajAsPg

https://vetusomaru.dreamwidth.org/6953.html

An '80s Greek cult sci-fi movie with video games theme you will probably like if you're into b-movies. English translation subs also available at the video.

Why don't we make this a 90s and early 00s cult horror movie thread? Lawnmower Man looks like another good example.

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>>3506
>Lawnmower Man
I remember me and a friend used to watch that movie pretty often. Had the Super Nintendo and Sega CD games as well.

>>3533
What did they play like? Were they any good?

>>3506
Because there is already one for movies in general. It's a slow board, we don't need new threads for every topic, this should have been posted in that thread too.

>>1766
Would you call Lawnmower Man of the same kind of film?

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Wait, hang on. Reboot hasn't come up in this thread even once. We need to fix that. 

I just rewatched everything up to the end of S3, so the best of it is fresh in my memory. I remember watching scoffing the whole show bar the tail end of S4 off my phone and the computer on early youtube.  Anyone catch it while it aired? Surprisingly good writing for the first 3DCG cartoon series worth speaking of.

>>3541
Based ReBoot knower. How many seasons were there? I only know of through S3 (and that only through torrent). I remember seeing what must've been syndication replays after the fact, but I remember having fun thinking that little people were living their lives inside machines around me.  :)

>>3536
>Were they any good?
I wouldn't call these great games by any means. The strangeness of these games were an appeal to me during that time. I've never played the Sega Genesis version, so I can't speak on that one. The Sega CD version was definitely the more difficult and required memorizing a lot as you played over and over. At least for me as I died a lot before eventually beating it. The Super Nintendo version I played first and it was given to me by a friend who didn't like it which I wasn't even aware at that time it was even based on a movie. Took it to another friend's house that weekend. His dad would also take us to go a rental store whenever I'd sleepover on the weekends where we both could usually pick a movie or game each. I was looking around and saw it on a shelf and kind of lost my shit. Asked my friend if he was cool with me getting it since I brought the game for us to play. We sat and watched it, first time watching it I thought it was weird, but me being me that was the appeal of it. He was kind of similar in a way so it instantly became one of those "strange" movies we'd watch from time to time with each other. His dad would often make copies of movies we'd want to watch more than once so he didn't have to pay for us to rent it again or pay full price for the tapes. I probably still have that VHS copy in an old box at my parents house. Kind of randomly had the thought about looking into if it had a laserdisc release. I've been getting into watching laserdisc rips and wishing I had the money to get into collecting a couple as a hobby.

As far as gameplay goes the Super Nintendo version went from being a platformer kind of run n' gun type of game that shifted from being in the real world setting to a first person whenever you're in the virtual world flying through the levels and even went about being similar to a rail shooter. The Sega CD version has a lot of obscure 3D stuff going on, trying to solve puzzles, flying throughout the virtual world, again the shooter elements here as well as being focused more about the virtual world as it's ultilizing more 3D elements being on a CD format and trying to push the Sega CD. It also has FMV. They both have pretty cool soundtracks. I easily prefer the Sega CD's soundtrack over the Super Nintendo's. You could easily emulate them and try them out. I might do the same for the Sega Genesis version since I never have played it before.

Here's two videos of the playthrough's for the Super Nintendo and Sega CD. I use invidious or mpv for YouTube videos but I'll provide the YouTube links here for you if you're interested.

The Lawnmower Man (SNES) Playthrough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKZxhsZjI20

The Lawnmower Man (Sega CD) Playthrough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-1VW2E5rg0

>>1315
I love videos like these

>>3542
Four. Four had some good production values and some cool moments, but the writing and character work started a sharp decline. 

>torrent
Lemme help you.
https://watchcartoononline.cc/anime/reboot

>little people
Imagine Bob and company directing things in a game of Rome Total War.

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I know most people probably only know about Beavis and Butt-Head but MTV made some great fucking cartoons. My favorites are Aeon Flux, which imo is better than most animes I've seen, I love the Mobius inspired style and how surreal it is, and Downtown captures everything about 1999 perfectly, it actually makes me depressed every time I watch it cause that world is long gone and I can never go back...

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I still love this show. Been working my way through all the episodes.

>>3956
How does it feel to get world-class education on old schlock?

>>3950
These all look surreal in one way or another. The 90s is remembered as a cultural gutter by many, but I miss the willingness to take chances and push the envelope.
>The Maxx
I've only ever seen the source comics once during a review and never seen the show, but the character design and "super hardcore" style really gripped me. Is there a trustworthy torrent anywhere?

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Hey Arnold! is peak chill. It's just a damn good show, no pop culture memery, no constant shouting and flashing lights, the main character is soft-spoken, and there's a real sense of community in their little concrete neighbourhood. Plus, jazz.

>>1459
>Well, I'm an official wage slave, Dee
This line doesn't surprise me as much as it might have before seeing "Angelica's Last Stand", which clearly advocates worker power and their seizure of the means of production.

>>3957
I love it. I grew up on a lot of the cheesy sci-fi/b-movies they riff on ya know.

>>3956
Are you watching them all in order? What are your favorite episodes? And do you prefer Joel or Mike?

>>3962
Yeah. My favorite episodes so far are probably all the Gamera ones. Don't really have a favorite host cause I like'em both.

>>3964
The first episode I ever remember seeing part of back in the '90s was a Mike one (Quest of the Delta Knights), and I've always preferred him. My favorite episode is Time Chasers, although The Final Sacrifice is probably a close second.

There are still plenty of episodes I haven't seen though.

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Paul Verhoeven's failed attempt at satire, serves the douche right. That said in spite of the lefty director's intent its a pretty nice popcorn movie to watch with friends or family.

>>4054
it's a great movie even though its attempts to critique authoritarianism and blind jingoism completely fails. still looks great even today.
kill bugs behead bugs

>>4054
It was pretty good but no Robocop or Total Recall. It's been a long time since I've seen it, but I remember liking the way it uses in-universe media clips for expository purposes in the Robocop style. It does a good job of pulling you into the setting.
>>4059
>kill bugs behead bugs
I'm from Buenos Aires, and I say kill 'em all.

>>4067
>I'm from Buenos Aires, and I say kill 'em all.
hope you realize the earth government purposefully threw the asteroid at argentina to justify the bug war

>>4070
Sure, just like 9/11. But to Hell with following Verhoeven's satire when the Bugs really are loathsome.

>>4070
They really should've followed the book where the attack is left ambiguous and the Federation and Bugs are two separate powers coming to blows over the limited number of habitable planets. Kinda why I like Roughnecks Chronicles, much closer to the book.

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>>3541
>Anyone catch it while it aired? Surprisingly good writing for the first 3DCG cartoon series worth speaking of.
I watched it so much as a kid, I still have a lot of the dialogue ingrained.  Gave it and the other 3DCG series by the same studio a rewatch last year, partly for nostalgia and partly because I had been fascinated by a pair of clichés I kept stumbling over in fiction:

1. if you kill your enemies, they win
2. everything is secretly about Hitler

The Mainframe shows play both more or less constantly.  It almost as if S3 leaned so hard into #1 that it became a point of character tension in S4.

On the whole, it was a lot of fun to revisit after some 20 years.  I couldn't see Enzo growing up to be this HUGE DUDE Matrix before growing up and developing my own physique.  Then it's like "oh yeah, that's not even far-fetched."

I had a hundred of these little moments that made me think about life and how things have changed, or which are only funny in hindsight, like how painfully awkward the relationship between Matrix and AndrAIa is, or when Bob confronts Hack and Slash at the dump and shouts

>HEY TRASH DIGGERS

>>3542
S4 was intended to be a trio of movies, but ended up being 8 episodes out of 12 that were meant to be produced. 
 It ends on a cliffhanger.  Or as I prefer to look at it, Megabyte canonically wins.

hey, i host TV night every wednesday night. right now our lineup is aeon flux, x files, buzz lightyear of star command, miami vice, and babylon 5. starts in an hour if any of you are interested.
https://cytu.be/r/ZZZTV

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>>4076
>if you kill your enemies
Are you sure about that? Aside from Matrix's foolhardy "you're not worth killing" at the end of S3 (and which should have just ended as did, with Megs getting dragged into the Warp, I mean the Web), the cast seemed more than happy to kill things and people. Even had some morbid cheeky with Hex and cookies.

I don't have any complaint about her before S4.

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>>4285
Like I said, it was a point of character tension in these shows.  Rattrap and Dinobot (being otherwise at odds) find common ground yelling at Optimus over this.  Same with Matrix vs Bob in S4, at which point I think even Dot is ambivalent.  It's not just an assumption of the writers, but a question that the narrative attempts to answer.

It doesn't try very hard, of course.  I think the last big note on the theme, so far as the series went, was Bob casually trying to "reprogram" Megabyte: to deny a self-willed man his autonomy to avoid the indignity of killing him.

<Just a scan.  I don't believe in deletion.
>You can't go against your code.
<And neither can you.  That's the problem.
<It's not your fault; you're programmed to be this way. 
<We've just got to work out a plan to reprogram you.
>So I won't be a virus?
<That's the plan.
>Ah.  So a fate worse than deletion.  And they call me a monster.

And they wonder why Megabyte hates them so much.  It's like if Mouse wouldn't stop being a quasi-villain so Bob tries a little corrective rape to settle her down, lol.

This sort of thing is what makes rewatching these old shows entertaining.  Dumb writers say both more and less than they mean to.

>>4290
Oh yeah, I forgot that beauty of an exchange. Megabyte as an unrepentant monster is great. Makes him a classic kind of villain. Making the whole plot of Reboot by retcon into Bob's great experiment in rehabilitation turns out hero into a heel and gives Megabyte a sympathetic motive for fighting back as hard as he does: He doesn't just want to conquer, he wants to get away from him.  Those aren't bad ideas in their own right, but when put against what came before, they're a trainwreck. See also Dot's S4 idiocy.   In fact, S4 really should have been rewritten.

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>>4293
>He doesn't just want to conquer, he wants to get away from him.
Well, akchually what he says is...
>There is no grand scheme here.  This is about revenge.  Prepare yourselves [to be hunted down like animals.]
That's the cliffhanger that the series ends upon, with Megabyte having infiltrated the Principal Office.  He had returned to Mainframe in the guise of "original Bob" to seduce Dot, because such had become the horizon of his ambition, for some reason.

That's right: he got out of Mainframe (via the web, which was not according to plan) but apparently found an open port somewhere, but instead of infecting the net or the supercomputer like he had always intended, he goes back into Mainframe to cause petty melodrama to his enemies and retread the same old shit.

The charm of the character was partly in his cunning like in S3 when he used propaganda to undermine his enemies so that Mainframers wouldn't work with Enzo and they'd all die in a game.  Then in S4 he's like "lmao fake wedding."

How many lobotomies were needed to achieve this level of garbosity, I can't even fathom.

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Used to watch it a lot when it came on. Highlight of my weekends during was school was staying up to watch Whose Line at midnight. The Carey show was also on one of the few channels we got locally, favorite episode was the dance off in S2 E24,

>>4306
never watched The Drew Carey Show but i liked how much they would make fun of Drew for it on Whose Line

>>4306
Craig was a god tier late night host. Him and Letterman retiring within a couple of months was the death of late night shows.

>>4306
damn I can't spell when hungover
>>4307
It was pretty good, the cast was well rounded from Ryan to Drew to Mimy, unfortunately its kinda faded from memory because the music rights are a bitch to acquire so they can't show re-runs. Drew himself said its unlikely it'll ever be released because of it.

>>4309
>music rights
Is that why I never see it anymore.

>>4310
Yeah. The Time Warp song for instance was particularly hard to license the first time around and only the song, which is why during the whole Rocky Horror vs Priscilla Queen of the Desert drag off they don't do the actual dance. There's also Five O'Clock World, A couple Joel Walsh songs and multiple others. That's on top of cameoes with stuff from the SIMs and Daffy Duck. It's a licensing nightmare. Sorta like Wonder Years.

>>4311
are there any torrents that have all the music intact?

>>4312
There's one on the Internet Archive:
https://archive.org/details/the.-drew.-carey.-show.-1995.720p.-rew.-dd-2.0.x-264