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Wanna watch some /retro/ TV? Check out https://www.my00stv.com/

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Alright, this is meant to be a successor to /y2k/ on the old 8chan, however I have expanded it to include both the 1990's and the 2000's and NSFW content is allowed, provided it's actually related to the purpose of this board and doesn't violate any of the site's core rules.
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>>5169
Same to you.

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Anyone else here /retro/maxxing? I've realized there is no point in denying myself happiness and gigacoziness and I may as well go all in on my retro obsessions even if it's a bit weird. 

I could list a bunch of things I'm doing but I'll start with just a couple here

>film photography
I have never bought a digital camera and I have stopped being a NEET lately. I have a small comfy job so I have some money and I buy rolls of film on occasion and I carry a late '90s point and shoot camera with me almost everywhere I go. It's fun and super comfy. I also started developing black and white film myself, at home.

>computer
I have set up my windows machine to look like windows 98 (not completely accurate but I've changed over the icons and use a classic theme, etc. 

And on my linux machine I have set it up to look like some versions of UNIX from the late 80s to early 90s.

And for my browser I use Pale Moon and I have it set to look like Netscape.

>music
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>>5291
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_Operators
>Pocket Operators are a line of miniature synthesizers, drum machines and grooveboxes, produced by the Swedish company Teenage Engineering. They were originally released in 2015 as a collaborative effort with the clothing brand Cheap Monday. They are inexpensive, with all main line models retailing for under $100. As of 2022, there are nine models in the main series, along with four limited edition models and an app. They use custom segmented liquid crystal displays.
What do you think of these?
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Has anyone used Fieldstation42? https://github.com/shane-mason/FieldStation42

I just started looking at it and it looks like it could be the software I've been wishing for for years. It lets you simulate broadcast TV with your own programming.

I hope to set it up soon myself, if I do I'll post about it here.
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>>5336
>if I do I'll post about it here.
Please do! Thanks Anon.
>>5335
I'm not sure. My taste is pretty autistic, so it can be kind of hard to find things that satisfy me. The arcade one seems kind of cool. I'd rather get one of these though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuPJpSKuqUc

I already have the AY3, which admittedly doesn't get much use, but I'm more of a fan of the sound of the NES style of chip sound. Since I'm pretty satisfied with my collection, I'm trying to lay off buying any more synthesizers (and with a Hapax and a Picotracker in addition to software options, it seems like my sequencing options are covered). The hapiNES wouldn't take up much space though. It's the larger HapiNES L version that would interest me, since I don't even think the smaller one has MIDI.

If I didn't already have a good FM synth collection, I might be looking into MiniDexed. What I have would be overkill for most people.
>>5336
Looks neat. I'll be interested in hearing about your experiences with it.
>>5336
https://www.instructables.com/How-To-Save-Analog-TV/
<TL;DR: RF Modulator -> Analog TV Amp -> Coat Hanger
>;)

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Let's have a new thread without a tonne of broken images.  Have there been any new forms of /retro/ media (could be movies, games, anime, websites, etc.) that wanted to look old and actually succeeded?

There's an artist called BlueTheBone who makes "retro"-styled animations, cheesecake, and porn.  Like any modern hack, he overdoses on visual clutter and uses filters that don't actually resemble the time period he's trying to emulate - but despite that, I think his style is consistently decent.  If he relied less on computers and filters, then I think he'd be a much better artist, but that goes without saying for most contemporary artists.

The really weird things happen when he tries to make modern character designs and media look old, like pic 2.  It isn't exactly wrong, but there is something perplexing about viewing characters and series that were developed specifically with modern aesthetics in mind.
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>>5329
The funny thing is I actually enjoyed playing around with AI stuff in the early days of it because it was so "bad" that it would spit out data moshed abominations or dreamscapes. But the models improved so rapidly that it became so reliable that it became an infinite meh slop machine. It's like playing with analogue electronics or doing in camera effects or playing about with developing film in nonstandard ways. The serendipity is the fun part and the whole point of it. If it becomes reliably repeatable then it's just mass produced and boring. AI is sort of like a tornado in that it has gotten choked off by the same flow that created it. Oh well. I suppose there's nothing left to be said.

I suppose to try and get things back on track I should ask does anyone have any experience with retro image editors? I would really like to recreate the old look and feel of  old DOS style images but modern editors seem to lack the exact ability to do it correctly. Even Paint doesn't seem to have brush styles that older versions had and the spray paint brush seems weird to what I remember it. I maybe overlooking something obvious but I'm not sure what. Do you know what I mean?
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>>5330
One of the most popular art programs for game graphics in the 90s was Deluxe Paint. It was used by studios like LucasArts, id Software, Delphine, etc. and was mostly used to create 256-color images, with tricks like dithering creating the illusion of more colors. There's readily-available software such as GrafX2 which was inspired by Deluxe Paint and another Amiga art program called Brilliance. GrafX2 has been used extensively by the demoscene and is likely available in your typical distro repositories.
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>>5329
>I think anyone seriously considering genAI as a legitimate form of art has brain damage
You're the only one popping veins over pixels here anon.
>>5330
>literally complaining about reliability of a tool

Anyway, what do you think of Inti games? There's things like Curse of the Moon games, which successfully imitate nes era castlevanias, but there's also gunvolts, which sit in a weird place. The sprites look like from GBA, have the quality of SF3, but there's also tons of after effects, and full resolution illustrations. They're not trying to be retro, but all the spritework has direct lineage to the gba era, so they're carrying that spirit anyway.
>>5331
Not him, but thanks for the recommendations. GrafX2 looks like it would be right up my alley if I were more into making visual art.
>>5331
Yeah thanks for the recommendation. Didn't mean to not respond, I've been away from the computer for much of the weekend. GrafX2 seems like something that's right up my alley.

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Retro /tech/.
 
PDAs, pagers, old mobile phones, mp3 players.  I miss them.  They were so less intrusive to privacy.
 
It sounds really weird, but I'd love it if I could somehow still have a pager as opposed to a cell phone.
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>>5293
There's a good chance I'd be interested if I didn't already have a phone that works for what I need it for.
>>5293
I personally would be happier if they cheaped out on the camera and whatnot to bring down the price, or just make a dumbphone with these aesthetics. Still, if the bootloader is open so that you can install whatever OS you want then maybe I'd be mildly interested.
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>>5295
>or just make a dumbphone with these aesthetics
Yeah, I can't say I'm big on smartphones anyway. I didn't even bother getting one until a few years ago when I was short on options, and even then I don't use it much.
>>5293
Bad timing and consequently bad pricing.
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>>5310
Yup looks like a nice object but the pricing is way to big to makes it interesting for me

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So, what are some of your favorite memories of the old internet?


Can be websites, memes, events or any other aspect of the days of Web 1.0 and 1.5


For a quick reference, here's what I would define as Web 1.0 and Web 1.5


>Web 1.0: Usenet, Geocities and Angelfire, AOL (1991-2001)
>Web 1.5: Early YouTube, ED, 4chan in its "wild west" days, MySpace, YTMND, Newgrounds and the peak years of dA and Fanfiction.net (2001-2008)


You also had cross-generation stuff like GameFAQs and IMDB which are still around today, although sadly IMDB's infamous message boards are gone
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>>5237
I was pretty late to the MySpace train, but social media went downhill once Facebook came along. I guess Twitter has its uses, but still.
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>>5238
My problem with slow boards is always that I forget to check in after I see no new posts for a while, then I realize it's been months (sometimes years) before I remember to check back again.

I'll drop some of my bookmarks some of you guys may like.

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I just found this waifufag shrine to Dana Scully from the time of the original run of The X-Files that's still up:
https://obsse.us/index.shtml
Wait, is my00stv dead? Oh n-
>https://www.myretrotvs.com/
what a save
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>>5284
You really can channel surf on this one, huh? Have to figure out how you can do that time-wise. -I have never owned cable television.-

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Latest version of Signal running on Windows 7 with Second System (https://www.patreon.com/posts/second-system-2-138036875) software installed. 

I still use Windows 7 as my main OS and probably will be able to continue doing so for at least a couple more years using the Second System software (as well as VxKex and windows 7-specific forks of some programs). 

Ask any questions you may have, and feel free to post anything relevant. 

I know windows 7 is not very retro but I thought it would be of interest here. Thread is of course open to other older OSes like XP, 98, DOS, old Linux or UNIX, etc.
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>>5265
Heh, fair enough. I was thinking one suited for use with a robowaifu that enabled all kinds of modern electronics. Maybe my mindset is wrong that TempleOS couldn't handle this? Good idea though, Anon.
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>>5266
>that otherwise enabled*
>>5264
>I'm interested in having an OS that simply doesn't have networking at all.
Back in the day you would install Windows and just... not install the wifi driver from the CD-ROM. :^)
On a more serious note, you could make a custom Windows ISO with as many disabled or outright removed features as you want using tools like NTLite (Windows 7, 8, 10) or nLite (Windows 2000, XP) or even 98lite (Windows 98). I've used the last two extensively years ago although I never disabled something as crucial as networking. 
There's also Linux and the BSDs which, being open source, should give you the freedumbs to remove/disable any part of the OS that you do not want.
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>>5268
Thanks! Hmm, sounds interesting. I was already leaning towards OpenBSD, so I'll probably investigate that approach.

Any specifics detail advice would be appreciated here.
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>>5269
Have you decided on anything yet? I'm just kind of curious. As someone who isn't very good with computers past being able to install and set up basic Linux distros, OpenBSD always came across to me like the final boss of PC neckbeard wizardry. With the negative direction Linux seems to be headed as far as freedom is concerned, I think of it almost like a final frontier.

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The world has seen many empires rise and fall, and among them is one I find personally fascinating but little discussed: the American corporate empire of the late 20th century. While other empires conquered the world with guns and soldiers, corporations harnessed spirits of computer machinery to fight wars in cyberspace with Christmas catalogues as their propaganda posters. The bones of this empire have persisted into the current day as world-grasping monsters or corpses picked over by scavengers, but I wish to focus upon brighter, fuller days.

To a lot of people who grew up during this era or after it, "empire" probably doesn't feel like the right word. It just seemed natural for America to be leading the world economy and producing the best computers, movies, and bikini models. Partially I was just young and optimistic, but in hindsight that era definitely had the guts to fill the three-piece, eight-hundred-dollar, one-hundred-per-cent-cashmere suit it wore to the office.

And the office! Look at it!

The office was a place with its own culture, its own manners of dress and address. You were expected to look and act a certain way, to be formal but not too detached. Business casual suits and pencil skirts just make people look good, even the rank and file. There were phrases and customs that needed to be respected. For many people, the office was a second home - sometimes literally, depending on deadlines. It was a beautiful mixture of ruthless work and human friendsh
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>>5206
Officesoft is a better term for it, no doubt. I will have to go searching for artists who make it.

I have been meaning to get productive with Blender so perhaps this will help inspire me. (Probably not. I am terribly lazy.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfire_(film)
>Starfire was a Sun Microsystems promotional video filmed in 1994, demonstrating Bruce Tognazzini's ideas for a 21st-century computer user interface. Inspired in part by Apple Computer's Knowledge Navigator film from 1987, Tognazzini and his team at SunSoft sought to create a more realistic look at how computer technology and interfaces would improve. The project drew together the talents of more than 100 engineers, designers, futurists, and filmmakers in an effort to both predict and guide the future of computing. 
>The film is set in the year 2004 and features a protagonist interacting by voice, mouse, and stylus with a 5-foot-wide computer screen (1.5 m) . The story concerns an executive at an auto-maker who must make a compelling presentation for her design. 
And you can find it in youtube:
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=w9OKcKisUrY
Quite goofy from this day and age, but it's definitely very 90s.
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>>5272
The future of the past is also a different country from the one in which we live.
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Not exactly officesoft, but definitely has a business feel to it.
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>>5281
This is exactly like the Aught's show Las Vegas.

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Alright, I decided to expand the scope of this board a little more and include a containment thread for 80's nostalgia.

I mainly created this board to serve as both a successor to the old /y2k/ board, which was my favorite board on 8chan, and also expand the scope to include 90's nostalgia too, but after checking on this board, I noticed someone mentioning 80's nostalgia and I decided I would do something about it.

I personally don't care that much for 80's pop culture aside from the music and some of the old edgy anime, but 80's nostalgia did become a thing in the 2000's and I can see why others like the whole 80's style, so I'll allow it as long as it's mainly kept to this thread.
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does anyone else drive an 80s car? Don't want to dox myself but I got one to fix as a project. I hope to mostly or completely restore it to like-new condition so another 80s car can stay on the road.
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>>5279
I don't, but I always thought it would be cool to own a C4 Corvette. I think I would get too attached to one though. I'm not a great driver, and with my interests and lifestyle cars are just a way to get from point A to point B. I don't want something I'd feel like I'd have to baby.

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Aesthetics thread
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>>1186
> I did however find the CD-ROM that came with the book and found some cool hi-res wallpapers inside!
I know it's been five years, but judging by the filenames of your images there are quite a few of those wallpapers. Do you have the rest of them, or a source for the CD with the images?
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>>5253
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>>5254
Oh, thank you!
>>5252
>CZUR book scanner
That looks perfect, but also probably too expensive for one book. If you have a smartphone maybe you can find a dedicated scanner application for it? That should do the job acceptably with little to no payment required.
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>>5261
i actually got another retro-esque book that anons here would enjoy, it's a collection of logos called Los Logos, they're a company that's been publishing logos from different companies since the early 2000s. i have the first edition and from what i've skimmed through it it'd very relevant to the board. if i get enough saved up i'll probably set aside some time to get them scanned and uploaded.

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RIDERS ON THE STORM
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i made a post a long time ago saying how i tought 90s/00s cars were ugly and weird >>3443
i'd like to personally apologize since they've really grown on me since then and i like them way more than the boats from the 60s and 70s that boomers jizz themselves over and the new giant fibreglass behemoths that various shades of browns obsess over.
i think my dream car would be a bright red C5 gen corvette, specifically the 99 or 2000 model. i've always liked how they look and since most boomers have a disdain for anything that came after ronald reagan they're fairly cheap on the used market. there's a local guy selling his for $14k and it's in pristine condition and low mileage. unfortunately none of my cars last more than two years on average and i'd probably kill myself if i totaled a 'vette. maybe when i have fuck-you money i'll get one but for now i'll just stare at them.
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>>5255
Nice choice. She's a beaut.
>>145 (OP) 
80s cars (and their earlier prototypes) welcome too?
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>>5255
> i like them way more than the boats from the 60s and 70s that boomers jizz themselves over
I'm not a car guy, but I think I might agree with you there. I don't think they look bad or anything, but '60s and '70s muscle cars and the like have never done much for me.
>most boomers have a disdain for anything that came after ronald reagan
For me it's more like George H.W. Bush or Bill Clinton.
>>5257
I don't think so, but check out the '80s nostalgia thread. There's been a bit of carposting in there.
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Tiburons were a steaming pile, hated these things.

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