/retro/ - Y2K

>>5053
>i think it's worth the hassle to see a small pond of shitposting as long as a couple anons swim through it and post their efforts
I've felt ambivalently about this in recent years. Alt boards like this one and boards dedicated to productive stuff like /agdg/ can have a fair amount of signal in all the noise, but more general boards like /v/ have used up whatever good juice they had from 2015-2020.

/tg/ has managed to be the exception to all this, being a board of not-as-productive-as-they-used-to-be anons that just keep to themselves and talk about things they like. Even being attached to the tumorous mass of /a/ hasn't affected them beyond a couple of yaoifags shitting things up.

>>5063
I hope this leads to other old home computers getting a renewed version. Like the Spectrum but especially like some of the rarer ones like the SAMCoupe or the Timex Sinclair.

>>5064
>I potentially want to see some older developers and composers getting some new work because of this
That would be great.

>>5069
The ends are just basic composite connections.

>>5092
just get an RCA-to-whatever adapter with an end that'll fit your speakers. Probably 3.5mm, but maybe yours are weird.

>>5063
I bought the Commodore 64x case for mitx. They're still offering it. I tried to shill (raise awareness) of it over the years. Sean who's one of the people involved with this even though Perifractic is the point man is a great guy.
>>5072
Maybe you should tell that to Leo on his forum for 'Commodore' OS.
>>5087
Spectrum was already brought back?

>>5093
Yeah, that's what I figured. I'm going to have to see what I can find.

>>5083
actually i finally found someone who did an autistic benchmark
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6_bfZ4nuE]
its like what i already said and its really obvious when using mmx [8:00], these old programs that were heavily optimized with these now legacy instructions usually run like garbage on modern cpus where the focus on optimizing is using newer extensions instead of these old obsolete ones that really should just be removed but hey its backwards compatible.. which for intel just means it 'can' run old program, if it runs like shit thats your fault for using out dated legacy stuff

thats basically the attitude for a lot of things

>>5085
>but hey its backwards compatible
If this is really the case, then why do game constantly show errors with trying to run "16 bit" software? I've even had this fun with trying to install some Windows 98 games where they outright refuse to work on my PC running W7 64 bit.

>>5086
thats an os problem, im just talking about hardware, you can still run a 16bit os like dos on a modern cpu and run 16bit programs no problem, when you start using a modern os then yeah its up to how compatible the os is with your program, thats like running a linux program on windows, you either use emulation or boot linux, its not a hardware issue

>>5088
>thats an os problem
Okay, that I get

Here's another question that I have, this is in regards to something like MMX. Now I get the fact that we have "newer processes" that are suppose to be "faster" and more efficient in regards to processing some data, but are these actually faster?

What I mean is something similar that I see with the modern ray-tracing meme. One of the biggest reasons people are pushing for the tech is that it would supposedly lessen the load on developers to make things like proper reflections and lighting in games (Among other things). However the trade-off for using such tech is that it requires far more power than games that came before, prior games which did have elements like proper lighting and reflections (Even if superficially). Is that what is going on here? Are the replacements for processes like MMX actually proven to be faster in application and usage, or are they only theoretically faster and made to seem like the "Better" option because of Intel's shenanigans.

>>5089
mostly yes, its not really comparable to ray tracing, thats always going to be the slowest way to render
with cpus if you had to do something tedious like add 1 to 1000 32bit pixels then with mmx, which has 128bit registers, you can do 4 pixels at a time so its 4x faster than using 64bit registers, but with avx you have 256bit registers so you can 8 at a time, with avx512 you have 512bit registers so you can do 16x pixels at once, so obviously youd think more is better, since obviously if you can do more data then its faster but it gets complicated because a cpu is still a physical machine so passing electricity on gigantic 512bit registers is going to create way more heat than registers that are 1/4 its size, so while you can do more data you actually still slow the cpu down since it will thermal throttle and it does that preemptively because its guaranteed to go volcano mode when using those instructions, the instance you use a single 256bit or 512bit register the cpu immediately downclocks, i think the penalty is 20% 50% respectively but thats a small price to pay when you can process 8x-16x the amount of data, however if the programmer is stupid and only does a single avx instruction and isnt really using these for bulk data processing then you trigger the downclock penalty and effectively slowed the cpu down for nothing, and your normal instructions are running at 1/4 the speed now for a while, so nor

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>>5024
In hindsight, growing up with:
- infinite free emulated video games
- infinite free Flash games and animations
- wide cultural expectations of filesharing for music and movies
- the intersection of good video games made by white dudes
- geeks running the internet and having fun
was pretty much perfect.

I don't want to get lost in reminiscing, so I'll just say that the abundance of digital media and internet preservation have made it easier than ever to see how boring and lame things are. The only thing The Powers That Be have going for them is cultural inertia, and they've been digging up the corpses of 80s toy lines at an alarming rate. It can't last forever, and if we're willing to make new stuff ourselves then it'll stand out.

>>5029
>I don't want to get lost in reminiscing
>and if we're willing to make new stuff ourselves then it'll stand out.
Both great perspectives, Anon.
Forward!

>>5029
amen anon
>if you build it they will come
we have to create the world that we want to see, and when people see how much better it is, that movement will only grow.

https://contemporary-home-computing.org/RUE/
>I’ve been making web pages since 1995, since 2000 I’m collecting old web pages, since 2004 I’m writing about native web culture (digital folklore) and the significance of personal home pages for the web’s growth, personal growth and development of HCI.
>So I remember very well the moment when Tim O’Reilly promoted the term Web 2.0 and announced that the time of Rich User Experience has begun. This buzzword was based on Rich Internet Applications, coined by Macromedia,1 that literally meant their Flash product. O’Reilly’s RUE philosophy was also rather technical: The richness of user experiences would arise from of use of AJAX, Asynchronous Javascript and XML.
>The web was supposed to become more dynamic, fast and “awesome,” because many processes that users would have to consciously trigger before, started to run in the background. You didn’t have to submit or click or even scroll anymore, new pages, search results and pictures would appear by themselves, fast and seamless. “Rich” meant “automagic” and … as if you would be using desktop software.
>As Tim O’Reilly states in September 2005 in blogpost What is Web 2.0?:2 “We are entering an unprecedented period of user interface innovat

Making a Neocities page looks fun. I really loved the internet when it was full of blogs, forums and personal sites. I sure miss it.

>>5037
>>5038
Very interesting stuff, Anon. Thanks!

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>>5037
>>5038
I figured there was zero CGI involved. No way they had facial animations this good in the 80s. For an interesting (and amusing) look at what "state of the art" CGI looked like back then, check out Tony de Peltrie (1985).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GHJwBL1ySE

>>5043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g2Ywx1mLIE

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>>5037
>>5038
>>5043
CATCH THE WAVE

>>5070
Funny. I don't think they ever solved that did they?

There should be more english 2chs

Oh, I've been using world2ch for a few months now. I have a few threads

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>>5058
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>>5008
I've listened to it. it's not as good

>>5009
I agree, the original is hard to beat. It's one of those things that's a perfect point in time, really captures the feeling of the emerging genre. Hard to replicate that feeling 25 years later

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i heard the around the world WUBWUBWUBWUB remix at the gym again today and now i'm mad

>>5012
I argue all remixes are terrible. I work with a guy that's too cheap to pay for a streaming service or buy albums but won't pirate, so he'll download remixes and covers as a loophole. I've heard enough butchered music to cement my opinion.

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>>4281
>>5012
>>5013
Never underestimate the power of a good remix. Ignore all the modern trash and listen to these.

>>13 (OP) 
It kind of still is? Jurassic World is still out there, and there are games like  Dino Hazard: Chronos Blackout and Dinosaur Fossil Hunter, and there's band named Victorius that has at least two albums about dinosaurs and another band named Ultra Raptor, et cetera...
I mean, it might be not that mainstream, but mainstream today in general is a weird thing, as I really wonder who can even enjoy 90% of mainstream content. Yet obviously someone enjoys it, since it refuses to die out.
But among the non-mainstream stuff, dinos are still quite a big niche. You just have to dig for it.

I've got some dino stuff saved here and there but most of it's way earlier than from 90/2000s or even the 80s.
>>4640
I think the "feather wars" might have split a lot of people on whether dinos are cool or not. Pop culture wise people prefer dragons to big birds.

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>>5039
In my own experience, it goes even further than that. I realized as I got older that I preferred the really antiquated depictions of dinosaurs over what it seems they were actually like. Especially the more fantastic versions from pop culture.

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>>4640
>you just have to dig for it

>>3522
Found the Prehistoric Shark doc.
https://archive.org/download/shark-week-prehistoric-sharks-dc-1998

Does anyone know if its possible to retrieve the streaming radio list and station infomation from winamp/realplayer/wmp?

I want something like this for VLC. Not too many choices apparent so far.

Lol, google sucks now.

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I know I'm very late to this but you're missing this default skin. I remember this one but it's not on here. thanx if you add it, and it's okay if you can't :D
(Source of the image cut out: a WMP 8 ad. I used the Snipping Tool to screenshot this which is the reason why the quality probably sucks. Sorry.)

i love you

Here's some random 2hu skins I happened upon.
http://munyumunyumoo.nomaki.jp/

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>>4957
>This thread was created to discuss 90s and 2000s devices, period.
I guess you'd better sperg out at the anons from five years ago who talked about Windows 10 and modern Linux distros at length, as well as their experiences distro hopping. At least a third of the thread is 2-3 anons comparing Linux distros and desktop environments, which is fine because they're talking about modern technology with the desire to make it /retro/.

Small boards like this get by on vibes, not rules, because we're a small circle of like-minded anons with similar interests. Life goes on, man. Just stop being so butthurt about meaningless shit and you'll be a lot happier.

>>801
>I actually bought myself a whole collection of grooveboxes this year (MP7, MC505, MC307, MPC500, DR202, KO1, EM1, SP606, SP808, RM1X, SB246, QY100), and it's really taught me how expensive and how much of a hassle hardware really is in comparison to DAWs and trackers. And to add, I've since started using FLStudio 3.55 which has re-shifted my opinion on software trackers as it's a much more user friendly and intuitive software to use and to learn as a beginner in comparison to the more modern versions.
Replying to this post again, I'm on the verge of just coughing up the money for a Cirklon with the way my computer setup is. FL Studio has been my preferred way of working in the box, but I've never liked the feeling of using it in Linux. I've tried it through Wine and in a virtual machines, and it just feels off to me. I've also got it installed on my Windows partition, but the problem is that I don't like having to close everything and boot into Windows for that. And maybe it's just me, but I've never been good at finishing projects. I also never bothered learning any of the automation techniques.

I played around with Furnace a bit and really liked the workflow and bare-bones tracker interface, but there's no MIDI export function. It's also completely oriented around chip music, which is fine, but I'd like to also be able to input chords and everything. I'm a hardware syn

I'm going to the vintage computer festival tomorrow. There will be SGI machines there, I'm really excited.

>>5019
How does a festival like that work? Is it a bit like the vintage car shows and model trains

>>5020
I guess they just book a big space and then people come in and set up tables and booths with displays.

Unfortunately, it's full of weirdos and unshowered people. They're not 100% of the attendees, but a significant portion. I guess in hindsight it's stupid to expect anything else, but somehow in my mind I expected Computer Chronicles sort of people and not smelly discord people.

Nevertheless, it was still fun. I got some magazines and a couple bits of hardware as well.