/retro/ - Y2K

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>>5169
Same to you.

>>5303
Could be ragebait but I'll bite

The discourse on these tools suck, crazy transhumanists wanna take jobs for greedy reasons, creating a repelling effect to a lot of people. Leading into all forms of machine learning being the same in the discussion.
 I'm moreso on the lense of problem solving without losing the vision. Not datascraping cyber criminals. Not 
>erm chat gpt make a cartoon

These workflows have been around years before the discussion became deceptive and culty online. And I noticed them watching actual anime and doing research for 4 years through this board, not finding a repost from some silicon valley LinkedIn tech bro

Maybe you feel like these tools are bad because they lose authenticity, and its ok to speak your mind. But when the thread asks the question
>Have there been any new forms of /retro/ media (could be movies, games, anime, websites, etc.) that wanted to look old and actually succeeded?
I wanted to share some that I thought did

To you maybe what I've posted is a failure, by all means tell me why cause I wanna know. I wanna hear what takes away from it
 But all I've heard is just politics and quick dismissals, rather than a critique on what's on screen as it stands

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>>5304
I thought about this sort of thing a while ago. Would it be preferable to have more "authentically made" media but with the usual soulless presentation you get these days or something paradoxically more organic using AI? I'd choose the latter in a heartbeat. The former is just repulsive to me even though it could be considered more human. I'd ideally rather have people making organic media the old-fashioned way, but that's also not very practical in this day and age.

I thought I'd post some AI art I saved from Twatter a while ago as examples of what I'm talking about. I dislike most AI art on an aesthetic level, but his work actually appeals to me. Here's the guy's profile if you're interested in seeing more:
https://xcancel.com/ultra_arcane

Here's another similar account I just found while making this post:
https://xcancel.com/aispellbook

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>>5305
People aren’t getting what I’m saying
Yes some of this looks more interesting than a lot of media in the current year
And yes, traditional art is harder to make
But I’m not a fan of generative AI.
I think most of it has problems regarding data scraping. And a lot of it is just repeatedly telling a machine what to do rather than actual work and craftsmanship. 

I’m talking about experimenting with workflow. Like enhancing stuff with the foundations of actual traditional skills

Here’s an example of an artist, Lederle201, making something by hand, and using one thing to help improve the line work to make it feel more traditional
clip studio paint is the foundation of the animation, the artist obviously used something in post production similar to linerelifer to bring it closer to that cel animation look. You can see in the bts pics that the lines are more pixilated than the final image. The colors, backgrounds, and animation is done by hand, but there’s 1 tool to help it reach the vision

The work that you’ve shared has interesting ideas, and some appeal. But after looking through the 2 accounts., there's broken anatomy, weird artifacts and a strange uncanny valley thing. Like animatronics and CGI humans. Its kinda telling that the stronger stuff has people facing away from the screen

>>5304
>ragebait
Fucking zoomer retard

>>5306
>I’m talking about experimenting with workflow. Like enhancing stuff with the foundations of actual traditional skills
I got what you meant, but I thought that more extreme dilemma would be question worth thinking about.
>I’m talking about experimenting with workflow. Like enhancing stuff with the foundations of actual traditional skills
I do think that type of hybrid workflow is a better way to go about it.
>The work that you’ve shared has interesting ideas, and some appeal. But after looking through the 2 accounts., there's broken anatomy, weird artifacts and a strange uncanny valley thing. Like animatronics and CGI humans. Its kinda telling that the stronger stuff has people facing away from the screen
I think there's some good stuff in spite of the technology not being quite there yet. I feel like it's getting close though. Look how primitive AI-generated images tended to be not that long ago.

>>5112
You can have pretty much the same experience with a big, phat dumb stereo system. They are still being made. And they are still expensive as shit. Thank God for AKG clones.

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Didn't know where else to post about this. Commodore announced that they're making a smart flip phone called the "Callback" selling for $499. Pre-orders open for it on June 30th with a targetted Q4 release: https://archive.ph/sjUzp
In response to a lot of people bawking at the $500 price tag, they've since released this statement: https://archive.ph/8Wyed
<The Commodore Callback is a full-spec phone that starts at $499. And yes, we’ve seen the reactions.
<Yes. $499. The Callback is designed by Commodore from the ground up. New tooling, created in 2026, just for us. A completely bespoke Commodore PCB. A hinge rated to 200,000 openings. In-ear monitors tuned to audiophile grade DAC chips built by partners with classic Commodore history (ESS created the Impossible Mission & Ghostbusters speech synthesis). A 48 megapixel Sony camera, so you can leave the iPhone at home. We’re bringing back dome LEDs for customisable ambient notifications, and the stub antenna for radio and extra charm (or charms). Those are all completely bespoke.
<This isn’t your granny’s flip phone.
<Which brings us to the Callback software experience. We’ve designed a custom Linux-b

>>5293
There's a good chance I'd be interested if I didn't already have a phone that works for what I need it for.

>>5293
I personally would be happier if they cheaped out on the camera and whatnot to bring down the price, or just make a dumbphone with these aesthetics. Still, if the bootloader is open so that you can install whatever OS you want then maybe I'd be mildly interested.

>>5295
>or just make a dumbphone with these aesthetics
Yeah, I can't say I'm big on smartphones anyway. I didn't even bother getting one until a few years ago when I was short on options, and even then I don't use it much.

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>>5142
How was usable was that controller? The D-pad in that picture doesn't look too bad. My family never had a proper computer gamepad until the Microsoft SideWinder, just a joystick, but I never liked the D-pad on that thing.

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I just got a hardware tracker.  I'm hoping it'll be a valuable composition tool. I already have a nice hardware sequencer, but it requires external sound sources for actually making anything with it. That presents a big problem given how limited my space is. I intend to try and learn the ins and outs of the workflow, and if I come up with anything good I can output the MIDI and record with a hardware synth.

Being portable, I could also easily take it somewhere where I'm not easily distracted.

>>5289
That looks very cool, Anon! Please take good care of it, it looks a bit fragile.

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>>5290
It seems solid enough to me. It's got an aluminum case, which is a big step up compared with the standard DIY version that uses 3D-printed cases. Here are a couple examples I found of what those can look like. My biggest worry is just that I'm not going to be able to make anything compelling with it. I'm still learning my way around it though. I've managed to get some of the basics down. I managed to make a crude version of those bloopy SID-style arpeggios, at the very least.

Being that it's an open-source project, it should only get better over time.

>>5291
OK that sounds great then; I take it back.  :)

I hope you'll share some of what you come up with once you like it. Cheers.

>>5237
I was pretty late to the MySpace train, but social media went downhill once Facebook came along. I guess Twitter has its uses, but still.

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>>5238
My problem with slow boards is always that I forget to check in after I see no new posts for a while, then I realize it's been months (sometimes years) before I remember to check back again.

I'll drop some of my bookmarks some of you guys may like.

http://www.naturephotographers.net/imagecritique/ic.cgi?a=va&ns=1

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I just found this waifufag shrine to Dana Scully from the time of the original run of The X-Files that's still up:
https://obsse.us/index.shtml

Wait, is my00stv dead? Oh n-
>https://www.myretrotvs.com/
what a save

>>5284
You really can channel surf on this one, huh? Have to figure out how you can do that time-wise. -I have never owned cable television.-

>>5265
Heh, fair enough. I was thinking one suited for use with a robowaifu that enabled all kinds of modern electronics. Maybe my mindset is wrong that TempleOS couldn't handle this? Good idea though, Anon.

>>5266
>that otherwise enabled*

>>5264
>I'm interested in having an OS that simply doesn't have networking at all.
Back in the day you would install Windows and just... not install the wifi driver from the CD-ROM. :^)
On a more serious note, you could make a custom Windows ISO with as many disabled or outright removed features as you want using tools like NTLite (Windows 7, 8, 10) or nLite (Windows 2000, XP) or even 98lite (Windows 98). I've used the last two extensively years ago although I never disabled something as crucial as networking. 
There's also Linux and the BSDs which, being open source, should give you the freedumbs to remove/disable any part of the OS that you do not want.

>>5268
Thanks! Hmm, sounds interesting. I was already leaning towards OpenBSD, so I'll probably investigate that approach.

Any specifics detail advice would be appreciated here.

>>5269
Have you decided on anything yet? I'm just kind of curious. As someone who isn't very good with computers past being able to install and set up basic Linux distros, OpenBSD always came across to me like the final boss of PC neckbeard wizardry. With the negative direction Linux seems to be headed as far as freedom is concerned, I think of it almost like a final frontier.

>>5206
Officesoft is a better term for it, no doubt. I will have to go searching for artists who make it.

I have been meaning to get productive with Blender so perhaps this will help inspire me. (Probably not. I am terribly lazy.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfire_(film)
>Starfire was a Sun Microsystems promotional video filmed in 1994, demonstrating Bruce Tognazzini's ideas for a 21st-century computer user interface. Inspired in part by Apple Computer's Knowledge Navigator film from 1987, Tognazzini and his team at SunSoft sought to create a more realistic look at how computer technology and interfaces would improve. The project drew together the talents of more than 100 engineers, designers, futurists, and filmmakers in an effort to both predict and guide the future of computing. 
>The film is set in the year 2004 and features a protagonist interacting by voice, mouse, and stylus with a 5-foot-wide computer screen (1.5 m) . The story concerns an executive at an auto-maker who must make a compelling presentation for her design. 
And you can find it in youtube:
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=w9OKcKisUrY
Quite goofy from this day and age, but it's definitely very 90s.

>>5272
The future of the past is also a different country from the one in which we live.

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Not exactly officesoft, but definitely has a business feel to it.

>>5281
This is exactly like the Aught's show Las Vegas.

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Some Atari 2600 game ads.

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>>5218

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Suzanne Ciani talking about synthesizers.

does anyone else drive an 80s car? Don't want to dox myself but I got one to fix as a project. I hope to mostly or completely restore it to like-new condition so another 80s car can stay on the road.

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>>5279
I don't, but I always thought it would be cool to own a C4 Corvette. I think I would get too attached to one though. I'm not a great driver, and with my interests and lifestyle cars are just a way to get from point A to point B. I don't want something I'd feel like I'd have to baby.

>>1186
> I did however find the CD-ROM that came with the book and found some cool hi-res wallpapers inside!
I know it's been five years, but judging by the filenames of your images there are quite a few of those wallpapers. Do you have the rest of them, or a source for the CD with the images?

>>5253
see
>>2071

>>5254
Oh, thank you!

>>5252
>CZUR book scanner
That looks perfect, but also probably too expensive for one book. If you have a smartphone maybe you can find a dedicated scanner application for it? That should do the job acceptably with little to no payment required.

>>5261
i actually got another retro-esque book that anons here would enjoy, it's a collection of logos called Los Logos, they're a company that's been publishing logos from different companies since the early 2000s. i have the first edition and from what i've skimmed through it it'd very relevant to the board. if i get enough saved up i'll probably set aside some time to get them scanned and uploaded.

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i made a post a long time ago saying how i tought 90s/00s cars were ugly and weird >>3443
i'd like to personally apologize since they've really grown on me since then and i like them way more than the boats from the 60s and 70s that boomers jizz themselves over and the new giant fibreglass behemoths that various shades of browns obsess over.
i think my dream car would be a bright red C5 gen corvette, specifically the 99 or 2000 model. i've always liked how they look and since most boomers have a disdain for anything that came after ronald reagan they're fairly cheap on the used market. there's a local guy selling his for $14k and it's in pristine condition and low mileage. unfortunately none of my cars last more than two years on average and i'd probably kill myself if i totaled a 'vette. maybe when i have fuck-you money i'll get one but for now i'll just stare at them.

>>5255
Nice choice. She's a beaut.

>>145 (OP) 
80s cars (and their earlier prototypes) welcome too?

>>5255
> i like them way more than the boats from the 60s and 70s that boomers jizz themselves over
I'm not a car guy, but I think I might agree with you there. I don't think they look bad or anything, but '60s and '70s muscle cars and the like have never done much for me.
>most boomers have a disdain for anything that came after ronald reagan
For me it's more like George H.W. Bush or Bill Clinton.
>>5257
I don't think so, but check out the '80s nostalgia thread. There's been a bit of carposting in there.

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Tiburons were a steaming pile, hated these things.