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Alright, this is meant to be a successor to /y2k/ on the old 8chan, however I have expanded it to include both the 1990's and the 2000's and NSFW content is allowed, provided it's actually related to the purpose of this board and doesn't violate any of the site's core rules.
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>ITT: Vidya of the 90's and 2000's

Keep it limited to the scope of this board, so basically Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Generation consoles only for now. 

For those who don't know what consoles are part of which generation, here's a quick rundown of the time frame we're talking about...

>Fourth Generation: SNES, Sega Genesis/Sega CD
>Fifth Generation: PS1, N64, Sega Saturn
>Sixth Generation: Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, OG Xbox

Discussion of games from the Seventh Generation consoles (PS3/Wii/Xbox 360) is allowed as well, but I'd like the thread to mainly focus on the 4th-6th console genererations since the 7th Gen era carried over into the 2010's and a lot of the games from that era onward obviously have far more in common with modern gaming than stuff from the 16-bit consoles or the PS1 and PS2 eras.
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>Arx Fatalis
Nice. Good finds anon, hopefully you can crack SiN.
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it was still sealed in the box too, felt weird that i was the one opening it up after 22 years.
and fire fight is being dumb and not launching or installing, don't even get an error message. as for sin and unreal those are DVDs and while i do have a IDE DVD drive I can put in the faceplate is black while the rest of the PC is beige. there is a beige version of the model i have but the only one i can find whose selling it is in the phillippines and wants $90 for shipping so fuck that
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another thing i noticed is that disc 2 for Unreal Tournament is filled with video tutorials for creating your own maps, logic, and models for Unreal. i can't think of any games today that have anything like that, guides from the developers for how to mod their own game.
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>the only one i can find whose selling it is in the phillippines and wants $90 for shipping so fuck that
Bummer, prices have gotten crazy even for basic stuff it seems.
>disc 2 for Unreal Tournament is filled with video tutorials for creating your own maps, logic, and models
That's awesome, definitely not common these days, most modders now have to reverse engineer everything just to make something simple.
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revisiting a couple of old games that are surprisingly more fun then when I originally got them. That one starship troopers shooter from 05 and Terran Ascendancy.

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Let's have a new thread without a tonne of broken images.  Have there been any new forms of /retro/ media (could be movies, games, anime, websites, etc.) that wanted to look old and actually succeeded?

There's an artist called BlueTheBone who makes "retro"-styled animations, cheesecake, and porn.  Like any modern hack, he overdoses on visual clutter and uses filters that don't actually resemble the time period he's trying to emulate - but despite that, I think his style is consistently decent.  If he relied less on computers and filters, then I think he'd be a much better artist, but that goes without saying for most contemporary artists.

The really weird things happen when he tries to make modern character designs and media look old, like pic 2.  It isn't exactly wrong, but there is something perplexing about viewing characters and series that were developed specifically with modern aesthetics in mind.
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Nice trips. This looks like a game straight out of the Dreamcast library
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I'm not sure if this is the best thread for this but does anyone know where and when the vaporwave/retrowave sun originated? 
More over what does the barred appearance represent? Is it suppose to be a sun as viewed through horizontal blinds? Is it suppose to be atmospheric inversion layers near sunset? Or is it even a reference to the ringed appearance of certain giant nuclear fireballs?
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I'm no expert on it, but I thought it was meant to represent a sun setting over water, even if it doesn't look like that in most retro interpretations. The whole palm-tree boulevard symbolism in some retro art suggests Miami to me, which is coastal.
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>a sun setting over water
Yeah that sounds reasonable, even likely. 
Any idea where the first instance of this sort of minimalist setting sun came from? It's not quite Memphis but it does look very 80s to early 90s. The transition period from the orange-red-brown era to the hot pink era, if you know what I mean.
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Was impressed by this playlist, really gave me big /retro/ vibes. I really recommend to listen to it if you want to get y2trippy

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Post videos that capture what life was like in the 90s and 2000s

e.g. home videos, TV programs, news segments, documentaries etc.
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This video makes me want to be a teenager so bad 
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Oof, forgot a relevant image
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I miss when Halo was still relevant and good
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January 1st, 2000! Life on the first WEEK of the new millenium!
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News At Ten Clip - Understanding The Information Superhighway (1994)

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Aesthetics thread
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Easily the Memphis look. The Y2K style I find a little appealing in retrospect, but I remember being a little kid in the late '90s and disliking changes that were happening at that time. Frutiger Aero I like in a UI context, but that's it.
Memphis. But yes, I agree all three better than today's "designed in power point in 5 seconds" look.
hard to pick just one as I was there for all of them. That said, I gotta give it to Y2k since I just have so many fond memories of it. I have some fond memories of Frutiger as well but things started going down hill around 2010. Memphis from what little I remember of it was pretty neat.
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i feel blessed guys. god bless you all
i really adore and cherish the frutiger aero design the most

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So, what are some of your favorite memories of the old internet?

Can be websites, memes, events or any other aspect of the days of Web 1.0 and 1.5

For a quick reference, here's what I would define as Web 1.0 and Web 1.5

>Web 1.0: Usenet, Geocities and Angelfire, AOL (1991-2001)
>Web 1.5: Early YouTube, ED, 4chan in its "wild west" days, MySpace, YTMND, Newgrounds and the peak years of dA and Fanfiction.net (2001-2008)

You also had cross-generation stuff like GameFAQs and IMDB which are still around today, although sadly IMDB's infamous message boards are gone
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I forgot to post it, sorry, here you go.
Just use some inspect element on a site that you enjoy and copy it. Or better yet just do some basic HTML and CSS, it's not that hard to learn.
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>I'm terrible at web design.
Surely that means you're fully qualified? :^)
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Not sure if it's what you want but there are ancient tutorials on YT for creating forum signatures in general, you just gotta filter by date.
For example here are some video tutorials published before 2010:

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With a new decade upon us and the 2000's being officially "retro" in the eyes of mainstream pop culture, I'm wondering what 2000's nostalgia will be like in the 2020's?

80's nostalgia got big in the 2000's and is still going strong with all that weird "vaporwave" art that appeared in the early 2010's and stuff like Stranger Things in the late 2010's.

More relevant to this board, 1990's nostalgia first became a big thing this decade but it was more prominent on the internet than TV or movies. 

Now we're seeing 2000's nostalgia start to take root in the very late 2010's. I've noticed a lot of Zoomers posting 2000's nostalgia compilations on YouTube in 2018-2019 and it kind of reminds me of the first big wave of 90's nostalgia that got big online in 2010-2012 or so.

Hell, /retro/ itself is simply a newer version of /y2k/ over on the old board, but expanded to also include the 90's.

I'm wondering if we'll see more 2000's nostalgia and whether or not the media will start pandering to it.

Pic unrelated
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If we're talking modern era I have to assume I'm a weirdo and that most Millennials are still normie flakes. It astounds me that "kids" my age (grown adults for a long time now) are still buying games new. With a greenhair on the box. With always online. With missing DLC for the always online.

I might be eating the tide pods and living in the bugs but I won't buy any of that ESG shit. Greenhair = not touching it. I haven't played Cyberpunk and I'm not sure I will. This I thought was the whole point of not making any of the ESG customer-facing any more, since they all seem to hate it or have adverse reactions towards it. But the problem is; ESG-woke companies inevitably make ESG-woke quality merchandise. And when they do, I've an internalised rollerdex (because I'm a Religious Right weirdo) full of "remember that time this company did 'blank'" and I'll avoid them forever. Remember when NZXT chose to post about BLM? Maybe not everybody does, but I do. If I still want a PC case in 10 years' time I'll be saying to myself "get an Antec or a bequiet instead".
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It's often said that every generation was nostalgic for their childhood but I truly believe the 90s and 2000s were the absolute peak of human civilization.
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From my perspective, things went downhill in terms of politics and social attitudes long before that. Life was generally harder the further back you go though, so they weren't necessarily comfortable times to live through. I think the '80s through the early '90s are the times I look back to with the most fondness, even I didn't get to really experience them (crapping my diaper doesn't count)). The remainder of the '90s and early 2000s definitely had things going for them in other ways (like the rise of the Internet), but don't find things like music and movies from then to be as good as they had been. I feel like I missed out by not being earlier, but in other ways I'm glad I was born when I was. I got to grow up with the Internet and experience what I consider to have been the golden age of computer games during my childhood.
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It depends on the country. In 1980's soviet union, life wasn't as good as today. But in the USA (and the west in general) life was definitely better.
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That's definitely true. I wouldn't have wanted to live in former Yugoslavia in the '90s, for example.

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Looks like none of the images in the catalog work. Let's get a fresh thread in here, focused on computers!

I don't have pictures at the moment to share, but I got lucky today and picked up a nice big beige computer case. I'm assembling a new personal computer from parts that I got deals on, found in the junk heap, or that I was given by friends.

So, I guess it's not really a /retro/ computer, but it will be in a /retro/ case, and I plan to get an adapter which will let me use a 3.5" floppy disk drive in there. The adapter plugs into the floppy pins, and presents a USB interface to the motherboard. That adapter is under $10 USD.

In fact, I've seen an adapter card that will do the same but for 5.25" floppy disk drives. So, when I have more money, I should be able to have not only a 3.5" FDD, but a 5.25" FDD in my system, running alongside new solid state drives, Blu-Ray disc drives, and of course a few regular hard drives. It should be pretty fun.

Again, no pictures yet but I will share with you guys when I can. For now I'll just post one from my collection.

What have you guys been up to?
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This is the exact based post that I came to make. I recognize the editor as FreeDOS elvis. I wrote a cat(1) in assembly and I noticed that it gets difficult to organize larger programs in assembly. I find myself doing sloppy things like using globals.
I have read the first seven chapters of Peter Norton Assembly Book for IBM PC, and although so far, its all recap, I am excited to see there are chapters on Organizing larger assembly programs.
The material is great, and debug.com which it starts with, is actually a great place to start. Kind of makes me wish Linux had something similar. GDB can't actually write out (non-coredump) ELFs from memory. 
I have also been reading Ray Duncan's Advanced MS-DOS System Programming.  I am shocked at how Unix like the APIs are for MS-DOS. MS-DOS and Unix both seem to have been created initially to solve the same problem - Providing a File System. The original Unix paper says as much. MS-DOS stops at basically the ability to manage files and load a single program. MS-DOS would actually be a pretty fun embedded system to develop on if it added concurrency - even just for text mode. Wikipedia has a list of Concurrent DOS implementations. FreeDos can't do it though.
DOSBox also works as an easy way to get started with DOS for the books. FreeDOS is better overall IMO because fdimples package manager makes installing stuff super easy. 
Thanks for that awesome list of resources here are another few interesting resources.
Curated list of MS-DOS resources
Downloads of OLD DOS Software
Free Dos Clone with a package manager
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Thinking of starting to do some home server/networking stuff. A lot of technologies rely on a bunch of infrastructure for them to be viable. If online map services went down many mobile devices would cease to be able to function as maps, for example. 

We've lost a lot of infrastructure and many services that existed in the past and they've been replaced with worse alternatives. If I want to bring my old thinkpad out with me to a cafe the number of websites I can visit comfortably is dwindling. But, I think if I can set up some of my own infrastructure at home, I can do a bit to negate that. Basically, if I have a powerful computer at home, I might be able to use it as a proxy between modern services and my older devices. There are programs that will look at a web page and then render it as a clickable, mapped JPEG that can then be beamed to another computer on which an older browser can be used to interact with a site. Obviously this would only work with static content but it could help. I don't remember exactly what this software is called but I'll let you know when I find it.

Another thing I could do is allow myself to access a virtual machine from outside of my house, so I could use new software if I wanted to on my old laptop when I'm out, and I'd have access to much more powerful hardware that way.
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I've had similar thoughts. I have some of that software bookmarked at https://www.are.na/the-curator/web-browsers if I remember correctly.
You can run the FreeDOS userland inside DOSBox. I had the issue that the 8086 emulator inside DOSBox had a broken interrupt 1 (debug interrupt), so I couldn't get through the DEBUG.EXE chapters in Peter Norton's book that way and had to create a VM, but maybe they fixed it by now. I dunno.
You could actually multitask to some degree with Desqview (by the same company that made QEMM). I used that when I only had DOS on my 486, so I could run QmodemPro in one screen, and have a text editor with Turbo Pascal or something in another.
From what I understand, it was very popular with BBS sysops. Otherwise the computer is completely tied up 24/7 just running the BBS.
They also made a graphical version (Desqview/X) that was actually an X terminal, so you could run X clients under DOS.

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Alright, I decided to expand the scope of this board a little more and include a containment thread for 80's nostalgia.

I mainly created this board to serve as both a successor to the old /y2k/ board, which was my favorite board on 8chan, and also expand the scope to include 90's nostalgia too, but after checking on this board, I noticed someone mentioning 80's nostalgia and I decided I would do something about it.

I personally don't care that much for 80's pop culture aside from the music and some of the old edgy anime, but 80's nostalgia did become a thing in the 2000's and I can see why others like the whole 80's style, so I'll allow it as long as it's mainly kept to this thread.
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In reality they couldn't, hence the very popular memory upgrade. 4K was barely enough for simple games like those published in this book: www.atariarchives.org/morebasicgames/
So it's basically only enough to tinker around with and learn to program. More elaborate commercial games tended to want 16K or more.
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I was gonna write it's weird they only included 4K when C64, released a year earlier, already had 64K, but then I looked at the price tag.
>MC-10: $119.95
>C64: $595
>video games on cassette tapes
Fuck I need to look up how this worked. Beautiful cover btw
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I truly miss 80's hip-hop. I feel like Run DMC started the whole degradation, but the trio themselves sounded dope as hell despite the minimalistic setup (which is now known as classic).
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At the mall. Judging by the haircuts and clothes, it's late 80's. Also
> Tape World

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The 2000's were arguably the last decade when children actually played with toys...
What toys did you have? What toys did you want? Share memories from visiting the big toy aisles, etc.
P.S. The size of the pictures does not indicate the importance/quality of the toys besides Action Man vs Max Steel..'cause Action man is better or you can argue otherwise.
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Darn, what a picture. It has pretty much everything.
DInos were so cool in the 90's, and I dig them to this day.
Yea, first and second generations of Bionicles were quite awesome. Funny, I've just saw several weeks ago a trailer for some fanmade Bionicle game where all designs are actually first gen. Hopefully it will come through all the copyrights and whatever else... and will be decent enough to play through.
I had a bunch of Star Wars toys from the time around AOTC and Revenge of the Sith, I still have a handful of clone troopers left. Also had a bunch of toys from the PJ King Kong movies, an ass load of army guys-which I still have, a bunch of the old school civil war soldiers, lots of animals and dinosaurs too.
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Ever thought of making dioramas?
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>I had a bunch of Star Wars toys from the time around AOTC and Revenge of the Sith, I still have a handful of clone troopers left.
When I was a kid, I had plenty of Star Wars figures that my older brother had collected. Most of the ones in this picture look familiar to me.
>an ass load of army guys-which I still have, a bunch of the old school civil war soldiers, lots of animals and dinosaurs too.
Those are probably the kinds of toys I'm most fond of in retrospect. Whether they were modern military figures, dinosaurs and cavemen, aliens and spacemen, knights, or cowboys and Indians, I liked all that kind of stuff. Quality didn't even matter much to me. I remember there being Civil War soldiers at my grandpa's house when I was a kid and finding them really interesting because I hadn't seen them elsewhere at that point. When I got a bit older and started using the Internet more, I remember eying up all the options for sale. When I was 9 or 10, I was even willing to pony up my valuable allowance money that could have put toward a game on some copper-colored doughboy figures. I couldn't wait for them to show up in the mail.
I had the big stormtrooper APC set that unfolded into the Battle of Kashyyk from Episode III. Problem was it never folded back up right and wouldn't snap shut.

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