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What is your favorite operating system? Do you prefer MS-DOS, Windows 3.1, 95, or something else? FreeDOS? Some flavor of Linux?
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>>2821
That's a very impressive list! I only used Windows since the 90's and Linux since the last few years... I've been wanting to try a FOSS OS that isn't Linux, my top candidates at the moment are OpenBSD and Haiku, and since you used both I might as well ask you:

- How compatible are they with modern hardware? I'm talking about Windows 10 era desktops and laptops with wifi cards.
- What programs are available other than first-party software? Are there developer friendly tools available?
- What's the state of the GUI? Is it as usable as Windows XP/7? Is it customizable?

I'm interested to hear answers drawing from your personal experience. I personally find modern Windows unusable and consider Linux a "lesser evil" that's only usable after a great deal of tweaking, so an alternative would be nice.
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>>2823
>- How compatible are they with modern hardware? I'm talking about Windows 10 era desktops and laptops with wifi cards.
Depending on your use-cases both can be a main OS for you and none aswell. Both OS lacks on 3d acceleration front, but OBSD have pretty good wlan drivers. Haiku now uses lan and wifi drivers both from FreeBSD and from OpenBSD, so there should be no big differences in hw support. However Haiku doesn't support some uncommon setup or hw.
Sound support: it is OK with OBSD, but can be tricky with Haiku, in some cases the OpenSound package can help (instal lfrom the Depot), or in some cases a soft/warm reboot from a different OS can help to fix the initialization.
Neither Haiku nor OpenBSD have usable Bluetooth stack, however Haiku at least have the basics already in place, so basic pairing works, but nothing else. Do not expect your bt speaker will work.
OpenBSD have bigger development team but they try to support a much wider architecture, while Haiku practically available only for x86/x86_64 and for riscv platforms. Arm is in progress, but nobody reached desktop yet.
I don't really own modern hw, but i always test Haiku with my company provided computers, so far  i had positive experiences.
Haiku supports NVME SSDs by the way.
If you need any other info, let me know.


- What programs are available other than first-party software? Are there developer friendly tools available?
Both for Haiku and for OBSD you can research the available ports via a webbrowser:
https://depot.haiku-os.org/
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Windows 95 for life. You really do not need any more GUI clogging up your machine.
The fact that modern Windows take up so much space is simply a crime.
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At the moment I have OpenBSD and Linux, on seperate ARM computers. OpenBSD is simply a containement zone for iridium (chromium) browser, whenever I'm forced to use that for whatever reason. Otherwise that board pretty much just sits idle.
The Linux is a very modified Armbian (Ubuntu) that I removed systemd from, and replaced with BusyBox. I also removed all the desktop environment stuff I could (to the extent that hardcoded package dedencies allowed), because I hardly ever use X at all. But I didn't remove X altogether, because I do need it on occasions. Otherwise most of the time I'm just in the framebuffer tty. Like for example, i'm typing this post in Links2 browser.
This is the best compromise I could manage at this time. I prefer older systems like those that existed in the 80's and 90's, but it's not practical to run those now and it would cost much more money than these two little ARM boards.
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>>3972
> 

>This is the best compromise I could manage at this time. I prefer older systems like those that existed in the 80's and 90's, but it's not practical to run those now and it would cost much more money than these two little ARM boards.
I recommend you contact anon.cafe/f/ for ideas how to keep your costs down on such gear. Teach us your ways, Sempai.

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Flash was pretty cool and it's gonna die this year so let's have a thread about flash games and just stuff that's made in flash in general.
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>>301 (OP) 
Thankfully archive.org has some flash files saved. Like Newgrounds, they use the Ruffle Flash emulator so we don't need to install anything to view them. (Archived flash websites seem to be broken though.)
https://archive.org/details/flashyloops_superwaha
https://archive.org/details/4chan-4evar
>>312
Thanks, I've been looking for this again for years.

>>314
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Bonus.com was really great. The quality of the games on there was surprisingly high. Would love to play them again.
Shockwave had a bunch of perfectly ported arcade games and a bunch of multiplayer drawing games.
Miniclip, Neopets, Habbo, Disney, Killfrog, Transcience, Stickdeath.
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>>2228
>Bonus.com
Holy shit... that may be something I've been trying to remember the name of for years. Would you please describe the games from there, that you remember?
Anyone remembers that silly fighting game with characters like Bill Gates, Saddam or Bush? I used to play that crap all the time lol
Just in case someone missed it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashpoint_Archive

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I can feel it in the air, it's going to come back. I can already see rumblings of it.
>big(ish) name jewtubers uploading remixes/parodies of eurodance songs
>more and more people discovering the Y2K/Metalheart aesthetic and making their own versions of it
>gen z realizing that nu-vidya fucking sucks dick and going back to 5th and 6th gen consoles for fun games and seeing artystyles/music that actually stand out instead of minimalism and nigbonics rap
obviously however as we all know they're going to fucking butcher it like they did with 80s shit (dude neon pink and purple and synths and lasers lmao), so enjoy it while you can. once they fuck it up for the next ten years they'll move onto their next artstyle to destroy like the locusts they are. we're too small and non-influential to enact pic related, so your two options are
>do nothing (what you'll probably do)
>make art/music/games that actually pay homage to that time period instead of butchering it (what you should do)
i am working on the latter, learning how to maek gaym in the process and hopefully get something put out in the next couple of years. what about you? how are you preparing for the resurgence?
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>>2221 (OP) 
>>make art/music/games that actually pay homage to that time period instead of butchering it 
That's the issue: Most people that are supposed to make retro-style art/music/games are still using modern era aesthetic and philosophy. Especially to stuff made by ESG-pandering Westernfags or Westernfags that get it wrong what makes a media actually retro-style.
ManlyBadassHero routinely brings out indie horror titles big and small which draw from those days. 

There's even a HOI4  mod called Twilight of the Anthropocene which old msn-style news pages to get across events. Think there was another one in development with similar ideas of presentation.

So it's happening. Any other finds you can see?
>>2221 (OP) 
A "generation" (I hate this whole concept but it can be useful) is generally considered to last 25 years, thus I bet on the resurgence (and bastaridzation) of Y2K on the year 2025
>>2225
>The 80s will keep getting milked for generations to come, even kids nowadays are nostalgiafagging over the decade, believe it or not.

Sadly, this.

The 1980's are the new 1950's. 

From the early 1970's up until around 2010 or so, the 1950's/early 1960's was the go-to "retro" era for stereotypical normie nostalgia-fagging and now the 1980's is being treated the same way
>>2242
Do you seriously not remember what visual kei was? Bands like psycho le cemu and malice mizer?

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Announcement here: https://anon.cafe/meta/res/16466.html
Meta thread here: https://anon.cafe/meta/res/16467.html

In short, anon.cafe is shutting down for reasons that are currently unexplained but allegedly not due to interference by feds and bad actors.  Some people had discussed migration in the board's first thread, but I think a topic this serious deserves its own.

Come March 15th, this board will no longer exist.
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>>3788
Push the button, anon. I'll post the first chapter of The Big O manga to the relevant thread to celebrate and keep the ball rolling once the move is made.
>>3700
It's not THAT, it's the fact that he'd even say some retarded word salad shit like that. 
"i think having stories of non-heteronormative characters who don't constantly deal with struggle and end positively is important for helping people who don't fit into these categories to find someone to relate to"
Seriously? It's brainrot and even without going into politics it just feels very 21st century which is really annoying to me, I like coming here as a nice refuge and I don't need the new admin to be someone who spouts modern political buzzwords. Even if he's an OK guy it seems like a poisoned seed.
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>>3793
I do too, I don't really know much about trashchan but if that's where we're going, it's better to do it now and get that set up to give us a smooth 2 month transition period. By the time anon.cafe goes offline, ideally, we wouldn't even notice it.
>>3796
>it just feels very 21st century
The word heteronormative was coined in 1991 apparently.
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Has any of you, Zoomers born in 1997, seen twin towers or witnessed 9/11, even if you were 3 or 4 back then?
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>>3404
The internet has always had its own speech patterns and common phrases, the difference now is that the main population driving language evolution has become normalfags who view the internet differently (in a more casual way) to those who were around in less user friendly more technically oriented times.
>Foxdick Farms
The whole lolcow community is anons LARPing about how normal and not lulzworthy they are right?
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>>3405
>The internet has always had its own speech patterns and common phrases, the difference now is that the main population driving language evolution has become normalfags who view the internet differently (in a more casual way) to those who were around in less user friendly more technically oriented times.
Yeah, back then a lot more of it felt like in-jokes that were relegated to certain sites or parts of the Internet other than the basic Interweb speak most people could understand. Nowadays it's a relative handful of big sites influencing online language. I will say that even a lot of older memes didn't age that well either, but at the same time I feel like people could communicate better without stuffing their writing to the gills with a bunch of unfunny rhetorical cliches. Am I really supposed to be amused by "Sir, this is a Wendy's" after seeing it for the thousandth time?

Also, I just learned a few minutes ago that Mike Matinee just released a video where he mentions just the phenomenon I'm bellyaching about.
>The whole lolcow community is anons LARPing about how normal and not lulzworthy they are right?
They actually seem to be more self-aware about their autism than they used to be; I'll give them that. The old lolcow imageboards were a lot more fun and less faggy though, even if they were arguably more spergy.
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>>3405
>The whole lolcow community is anons LARPing about how normal and not lulzworthy they are right?
I haven't visited the site in a long time, and while it is filled with 'anons', it was infamous for the goon atmosphere that it had, especially with the hatred of all things anime.
>>3408
Am I really supposed to be amused by "Sir, this is a Wendy's" after seeing it for the thousandth time?
I feel like this is a huge problem because nobody ever wants to articulate themselves anymore. All they want to do is use the same smug snide comment for the one millionth time in a row and get their upboats so that they can feel socially validated for being an obnoxious retard. I understand why people on the internet are getting more and more hostile and combatative as the years go on. This kind of environment where nobody wants to truly talk to one another and instead use dumb one-liners only festers that kind of climate.
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>>2564 (OP) 
>seen twin towers or witnessed 9/11, even if you were 3 or 4 back then?
1996 here, so I was in kindergarten.
I don't remember much of that day beyond school ending early and me going back home to play some Crash Team Racing or Tomb Raider, blissfully unaware of the events that happened. My parents might have been in the living room watching the news, but at that time news and politics just seemed like boring old people activities, so I didn't bother investigating.
My parents nor my school never told us what happened, and I only found out a year or two later.
>>3303
This board is specifically designed with millennials and Zillennials in mind. It’s 1990s/2000s nostalgia, I.e. those ideally born between 1985 to 2001 are welcomed here to express their reminiscing about their younger years during those two decades. 

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>>3403
I don't see how someone using that phrase makes them a bot any more than saying some other online colloquialism like "n00b" or "normalfag" makes someone a bot, nor do I see how one could deduce that anon watches YouTube kids just from their comment alone. That's quite a reach and blindly talking down to them in that fashion doesn't help anyone. Anon is an old fart to enjoy himself like the rest of us here, not to be shat on. All this started just because someone politely wished to claim that they don't jive with the Zoomer label and wish to be referred to as "Zillennial", then the thread devolved into whatever this shitshow is.

>>3404
To be honest I personally don't care what lingo or terminology is being used. Whatever you can say to get the point across, as long as everyone understands what we are talking about. I see plenty of people here using certain phrases that the average person has no clue what it means. Even "lol" is not everyday speak in real life. 
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YouTube was once also part of the old innocent, creative and fun internet  when at worst people would make a video in the hopes of it getting viral. But that slowly changed thanks to the Goolag purchase which kept ruining YouTube at small steps and turning it into Cable TV 2.0 and Spotify 2.0 : 
>forcing people to move to Goolag account to keep their channels and their videos
>complying with copyrightniggers as part of the mutual ass-kissing with the government
>giving monetary incentives to "content creators" , aka self-important e-celeb faggots, which drawn greedy normalfag scum and later on were removed which in turn force these greedy normalfags to beg for Patreon gibs and get sponsorships to advertise even more shit on youtube
>adding ads in the middle of the fucking video as if it was cable tv
>letting big cable tv channels having accounts on youtube
>removing full albums and songs from non-corporate music channels and reupload them as  separate songs by a fucking bots
>increasing censorship and removing comments and videos 
>disorganizing the comments section into a complete messy shitshow
>usless redesigning of the site over and over again
>
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>>2981
yt-dlp has a --write-comments flag, so probably.
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>>2982
Alright I found a guide
https://write.corbpie.com/download-a-youtube-video-comments-with-yt-dlp/
If anyone wants to start, here you go.
>>2978
Thanks for boosting this operation, anon
Remember to spread it over regional imageboards too
the other terrible thread aside, any updates on what jewgle plans to do with the site? guess its just download and host them on archive.org it seems
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>>3352
>guess its just download and host them on archive.org it seems
Pretty much yeah, there's no sign that Youtube is going anywhere soon but with Google's Web Environment Integrity spec (basically DRM that only allows approved browser setups to access a website) they might start to actively combat yt-dlp and tools like it.

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So I've been thinking about "pre-social media" social media, e.g. telnet BBSes and such. It would be cool to have an official /retro/ BBS, although I know nothing about setting it up.

I guess we can discuss such things here. (Also, pic related is telnet://heatwave.ddns.net:9640)
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https://old.reddit.com/r/bbs/
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>>1160 (OP) 
saw somebody posting some other BBS systems on cuckchan's /g/.  No idea if they're very active but thought I'd add to the list.

Also, it's not truly retro, but you could always checkout out Analog City.  It's a message board somebody implemented in shell that is available over SSH.

ssh lowlife@45.79.250.220 password: hightech
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http://archives.thebbs.org/
https://www.goto10.fr/
https://www.ansilove.org/bbs.html
https://www.ansilove.org/examples.html
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>>2848
There is really a rabbit hole to dig regarding the BBS world. I wish I was a grown man during this time to live this first steps of the man on the wired.
Here is a documentary about the BBS era from Jason Scott
http://textfiles.com/jason/.
http://www.bbsdocumentary.com/
https://archive.org/details/bbsdocumentary/BBSDocumentaryDisc1.cdr
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Wish I saved more Japanese BBS ads before that one uploader nuked their account. It was a very active scene that produced a lot of art and music, but not much of it has been publicly preserved compared to the works of the European and American BBS scene.

Also find it kinda interesting that telnet BBSes are still very active in Taiwan, however its culture seems to more resemble 2ch than traditional BBSes.

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What subculture were you a part of, Fellow Time Travelers? 90s bros, did you go to rave parties? 2000s kids, did you get some of that easy emo pussy?
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>>4085
>phoneposting
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>>4088
not much else to do on the can
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hi thar rHAd mai name is //\\TerboDworf//\\ and i am a dworf irl, tha tmens 'in real life" , normally i doun liek teh emoz but u seem cool do u wanan be frenz?/ :O
i like 2 b a snekky dowrf who stayz in teh dark  , so maybe im a little emo maiself :PPP
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On the topic of old funposting, I was troubleshooting some Windows issues several years ago and I found pic 2 on a Windows tech forum. Truth is stranger than fiction, it seems.

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Does anyone here collect 4-bit/16 color CG or perhaps even make it yourself? If you don't know what I'm talking about think PC-98 or see pic related.
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>>2766
Appreciate you sharing it even if I already had the small amount of Japanese CG in it.
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Just sharing this with you.
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>>2844 (checked)
Beautiful... Where did you find this?
>>2844
Thanks!
>>2844
https://www.axfc.net/u/4063189
was shared by anon on /late/

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Anons, 

As that one anon that's been working on the Infinity Cup for all this time, I feel like the boards that were set to participate deserve a bit better than radio silence. For those that aren't caught up or need a quick rundown:
>The Infinity Cup is a virtual soccer(football[divegrass]) tournament, with its roots dating back to the earliest days of 8chan
>It takes place in Pro Evolution Soccer (PES), a virtual soccer franchise from Konami 
>I took on the responsibility of organizing the 5th iteration of the Cup back at the beginning of this year
>Over months, I learned how to mod PES to put in each board's respective team and run simulated games between them
>Using pre-existing guides (many not in English) I also learned how to mod the game from an aesthetic and quality of life standpoint, including crowds, referees, stadiums, balls, and even rudimentary player models
>24 boards agreed to participate, and the Cup was scheduled to begin August 9th
>On August 4th/5th, we received word that 8chan was losing its host, the site went down relatively shortly after
>With no site and no functioning central hub, the Cup was postponed.
>I disappear for about a month
>I return in October
>We still don't have a site, but we do have a webring.
>You are here.
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>>2543
I was on the edge of my seat during that whole match, you played pretty good. Penalty kicks are pretty much just a last resort to decide a tied game, so no shame in being able to hold out for so long.
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Infinity Cup 7 is now complete! Congratulations to /eris/ who joins the ranks of champions as they defeated /japan/ 3-1 in the Final! Stay tuned for the award winners over at our /icup/ board.
Thank you to every anon who chipped in throughout the Cup, and thank you especially to all the anons who took the time to tune in. We'll see you in the next one!
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Hello, friends of /retro/, we're currently trying to get the Winter version of the Infinity Cup up and running, but we sorely need your help to make it happen.
Currently we're looking for a host, a co-commentator and some 3D assets/someone capable of making some. Even just cleaning up a bit of the wiki would help us out immensely.
Stay tuned for more and keep us posted on https://anon.cafe/icup/res/4864.html
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>>2725
>>>/icup/4612
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