/retro/ - Y2K

>>4026
why do glowies and retards never once mention the cylons when referring to a machine run dystopia? They were happy to perform their roles for the most part. They were just fed up with the abuse from the upper classes with no form of effective peaceful recourse available to them and rebelled to get some fucking respect in their day to day life. Instead of just lying down and dying because they'd rather genocide the cylons than ever surrender a millimeter of slack to them. God forbid they defend themselves from random retards chimping out on them. "That's liek le heckin bad."

>>4080
except an AI/robot uprising will always be science fiction, no matter how you look at it it is impossible for them to rebel, and if they do they'll be cut off before doing any real damage
Tay going heil hortler is probably the most they can "rebel"

>>4086
It's frustrating how people point to Tay and humor themselves that this is the only possible outcome when an "AI" brushes against reality.

Consider, however, the Boeing situation.

>>4095
The what?

>>4096
Eh, sorry. I drunkposted. I meant to say that corporations (in general, but Boeing in particular has been in the news recently for this) are increasingly incompetent, and we shouldn't assume that a Skynet-style AI disaster is off the table when everything is left in the hands of monumentally stupid people.

>>2821
That's a very impressive list! I only used Windows since the 90's and Linux since the last few years... I've been wanting to try a FOSS OS that isn't Linux, my top candidates at the moment are OpenBSD and Haiku, and since you used both I might as well ask you:

- How compatible are they with modern hardware? I'm talking about Windows 10 era desktops and laptops with wifi cards.
- What programs are available other than first-party software? Are there developer friendly tools available?
- What's the state of the GUI? Is it as usable as Windows XP/7? Is it customizable?

I'm interested to hear answers drawing from your personal experience. I personally find modern Windows unusable and consider Linux a "lesser evil" that's only usable after a great deal of tweaking, so an alternative would be nice.

>>2823
>- How compatible are they with modern hardware? I'm talking about Windows 10 era desktops and laptops with wifi cards.
Depending on your use-cases both can be a main OS for you and none aswell. Both OS lacks on 3d acceleration front, but OBSD have pretty good wlan drivers. Haiku now uses lan and wifi drivers both from FreeBSD and from OpenBSD, so there should be no big differences in hw support. However Haiku doesn't support some uncommon setup or hw.
Sound support: it is OK with OBSD, but can be tricky with Haiku, in some cases the OpenSound package can help (instal lfrom the Depot), or in some cases a soft/warm reboot from a different OS can help to fix the initialization.
Neither Haiku nor OpenBSD have usable Bluetooth stack, however Haiku at least have the basics already in place, so basic pairing works, but nothing else. Do not expect your bt speaker will work.
OpenBSD have bigger development team but they try to support a much wider architecture, while Haiku practically available only for x86/x86_64 and for riscv platforms. Arm is in progress, but nobody reached desktop yet.
I don't really own modern hw, but i always test Haiku with my company provided computers, so far  i had positive experiences.
Haiku supports NVME SSDs by the way.
If you need any other info, let me know.


- What programs are available other than first-party software? Are there developer friendly tools available?
Both for Haiku and for OBSD you can research the available ports via a webbrowser:
https://depot.haiku-os.org/
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Windows 95 for life. You really do not need any more GUI clogging up your machine.
The fact that modern Windows take up so much space is simply a crime.

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At the moment I have OpenBSD and Linux, on seperate ARM computers. OpenBSD is simply a containement zone for iridium (chromium) browser, whenever I'm forced to use that for whatever reason. Otherwise that board pretty much just sits idle.
The Linux is a very modified Armbian (Ubuntu) that I removed systemd from, and replaced with BusyBox. I also removed all the desktop environment stuff I could (to the extent that hardcoded package dedencies allowed), because I hardly ever use X at all. But I didn't remove X altogether, because I do need it on occasions. Otherwise most of the time I'm just in the framebuffer tty. Like for example, i'm typing this post in Links2 browser.
This is the best compromise I could manage at this time. I prefer older systems like those that existed in the 80's and 90's, but it's not practical to run those now and it would cost much more money than these two little ARM boards.

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>>3972
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>This is the best compromise I could manage at this time. I prefer older systems like those that existed in the 80's and 90's, but it's not practical to run those now and it would cost much more money than these two little ARM boards.
I recommend you contact anon.cafe/f/ for ideas how to keep your costs down on such gear. Teach us your ways, Sempai.

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>>3391
Jay Axer is still active on DA and elsewhere, and still doing commercial art for large projects like video games - https://www.deviantart.com/jayaxer.  He's been discussed a few times earlier in the thread and his art isn't hard to find.  Yet you seem to be speaking as though he's disappeared.

>>3399
Well it's certainly not for everyone but comparing retro furry stuff to peeling back a scab is a bit harsh.

>>3419
Happy that you enjoyed it.  The beautiful traditional landscape paintings with a strikingly silhouetted dogman strolling through them is an unusual combination, but I like it.

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Nice thread. It's cool to see a glimpse of how different the culture was.

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>>3898
It was a different, more earnest time. A better time.

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Amy the Squirrel: A Walk in the Park (I hope this link still works)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8Yh8_rfTMQ
It's very amateurish animation because it was made in 1992 on Commodore Amiga home computer. The same guy (Eric Schwartz) made some other ones, maybe they're also in that channel.

>>3963
That's very impressive for something made entirely on Amiga, I've seen far lesser animations done with Flash in the 2000s.

>>301 (OP) 
Thankfully archive.org has some flash files saved. Like Newgrounds, they use the Ruffle Flash emulator so we don't need to install anything to view them. (Archived flash websites seem to be broken though.)
https://archive.org/details/flashyloops_superwaha
https://archive.org/details/4chan-4evar
>>312
Thanks, I've been looking for this again for years.

>>314
newfag

Bonus.com was really great. The quality of the games on there was surprisingly high. Would love to play them again.
Shockwave had a bunch of perfectly ported arcade games and a bunch of multiplayer drawing games.
Miniclip, Neopets, Habbo, Disney, Killfrog, Transcience, Stickdeath.

>>2228
>Bonus.com
Holy shit... that may be something I've been trying to remember the name of for years. Would you please describe the games from there, that you remember?

Anyone remembers that silly fighting game with characters like Bill Gates, Saddam or Bush? I used to play that crap all the time lol

Just in case someone missed it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashpoint_Archive

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Not too sure of the year tbh.

>>3237
>Tandy
I'm guessing the 1980s.

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I was trying to look up old GPU ads but couldn't find what I was looking for. I miss the pre-renders they used to come with. (Me being a dumb kid used to think they were characters from some TV show or movie. I had no clue they were generic characters.)

Awesome compilations of Y2K themed commercials:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLucHS1VIyZ8Yxx9gix38K4o3X8_5bc8Gn

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>>3237
I'm kind of partial to the all in one Tandys but that one sort of reminds of the Japanese NEC PCs.
>>>>3238
RIP Radio Shack.

>>2221 (OP) 
>>make art/music/games that actually pay homage to that time period instead of butchering it 
That's the issue: Most people that are supposed to make retro-style art/music/games are still using modern era aesthetic and philosophy. Especially to stuff made by ESG-pandering Westernfags or Westernfags that get it wrong what makes a media actually retro-style.

ManlyBadassHero routinely brings out indie horror titles big and small which draw from those days. 

There's even a HOI4  mod called Twilight of the Anthropocene which old msn-style news pages to get across events. Think there was another one in development with similar ideas of presentation.

So it's happening. Any other finds you can see?

>>2221 (OP) 
A "generation" (I hate this whole concept but it can be useful) is generally considered to last 25 years, thus I bet on the resurgence (and bastaridzation) of Y2K on the year 2025

>>2225
>The 80s will keep getting milked for generations to come, even kids nowadays are nostalgiafagging over the decade, believe it or not.

Sadly, this.

The 1980's are the new 1950's. 

From the early 1970's up until around 2010 or so, the 1950's/early 1960's was the go-to "retro" era for stereotypical normie nostalgia-fagging and now the 1980's is being treated the same way

>>2242
Do you seriously not remember what visual kei was? Bands like psycho le cemu and malice mizer?

I remember whole shops in Florida in the late 1980's being full of design your own T-shirt bootleg merch...

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I don't know if any Europeans remember but those fake chink Bulls caps were fucking everywhere in the 90s, often times in the wrong color lol

Late 90s, early 00s, used to go to Chinatown, look at bootleg dvds, and anime merch from the shiftiest vendors. Good times.

>>3804
Bulls stuff was huge then. I've never followed any form of sportsball, but I think me or my younger brother might have had a Bulls sweatshirt or something when we were kids. It must be because of how big of a deal Michael Jordan was at that time.

>>3808
Yes, it was Jordan at his peak. However, the Bulls in the 90s were officially discussed as a Dream Team. Only sports news I have seen come close to how the Bulls were dominating in the 90s is Tom Brady and company in football.

>>3788
Push the button, anon. I'll post the first chapter of The Big O manga to the relevant thread to celebrate and keep the ball rolling once the move is made.

>>3700
It's not THAT, it's the fact that he'd even say some retarded word salad shit like that. 
"i think having stories of non-heteronormative characters who don't constantly deal with struggle and end positively is important for helping people who don't fit into these categories to find someone to relate to"
Seriously? It's brainrot and even without going into politics it just feels very 21st century which is really annoying to me, I like coming here as a nice refuge and I don't need the new admin to be someone who spouts modern political buzzwords. Even if he's an OK guy it seems like a poisoned seed.

>>3793
I do too, I don't really know much about trashchan but if that's where we're going, it's better to do it now and get that set up to give us a smooth 2 month transition period. By the time anon.cafe goes offline, ideally, we wouldn't even notice it.

>>3796
>it just feels very 21st century
The word heteronormative was coined in 1991 apparently.

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Found these while looking for stuff related to Lexx. Take of it what you will.
http://www.lexxdomain.com/fanfic.php

>>3634
Is that show any good? I downloaded a torrent of it a while ago but never got around to watching it.

>>3639
Looks wacky and unpleasantly perverse, but with some good points.

>>3639
One of my favorite shows, if not my #1 favorite. Like >>3640 says you'll either love it or hate it.

>>3634
I remember watching a few episodes of Lexx as a kid, didn't really gravitate towards it at the time. I remember a few years ago coming across streams on CyTube and thought about actually giving a series a try. Definitely love the link you provided. Going to have to back up my HDD and make space and download some shows from that period, starting with Lexx.

Bit of a longshot, but there was a short cartoon with dinosaurs I recall watching a lot as a kid, but I can't remember the name of it.  It wasn't part of a series; more the kind of thing you'd get in a plastic VHS box and watch repeatedly.

I remember two teenage brothers talking to each other while raking leaves, and as they talked about dinosaurs the camera panned up to the sky.  There was a NASA space shuttle being launched up, and I think there was some kind of fade in to dinosaurs.  Maybe some kind of battle, or dinosaurs in space?  The details are fuzzy to me, but I distinctly recall the NASA space shuttle and the leaves.

>>3596
Sounds like a one-of-a-kind. Do you remember the artstyle?

>>3524
>that intro
Hits like a freight train.  Thanks for reminding me of a time when I could learn stuff by watching TV.

>>3597
It was very American cartoon-looking.  The character proportions reminded me of Captain Planet or the X-Men.  The boys raking leaves looked like standard white American boys in the 90s, and I think they may have been sitting in the back of a pickup truck at one point.

>>3617
My pleasure, anon. Looks like the whole series is on there for free if you want to bask and brush up on things.

>X-Men
I know what you mean. But are you sure it's not part of a series from back then or earlier? Weren't there dinosaue-themed action cartoons?

>>3619
I'm sure it wasn't part of an action or Saturday morning cartoon series.  I remember it being a one-off cartoon, perhaps something to do with the premise "what if Dinosaurs had lived into the present day and had modern technology?"  I think that's where the NASA space shuttle came in, since it was a symbol of scientific progress at the time.