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>ITT: Weeb shit from the Clinton and Bush years
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Ive been having an itch for high fantasy anime around this era. I watched Slayers, Some of Slayers Next (Continuing soon), Slayers the Motion Picture, and Record of Lodoss War OVAs. I've never watched any of them before I did, but they have such a warm and mystical feeling to them.
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>>112
>Record of Lodoss War
Speaking of which, the torrent I found had a complete recreation of the DVD menus for the tv series, which I thought was charming.
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Lodoss War is one of the classics
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Any obscure recommendations? Have some not at all obscure picks from my screenshots folder. I think I have watched most of the popular stuff at this point, I need the high hanging fruit.
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>>560
Serial Experiments Lain maybe? I am yet to watch it but I heard very good things about it.
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>>560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N65qqnCVuqo
Enjoy.
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>>563
I've watched both. Iria Zeiram might not be, but SEL has got to be among the lowest hanging fruits of all. 
Here's 3 minutes of footage I crammed into 18MB the other day while testing AV1 video.
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>>561
It's weird and hard to follow. But they mention Ted Nelson in one episode.
>>561
Lain fags want to believe its obscure.
Check out 天使のたまご.
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Was she right, /retro/?
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I don't really know Anon, but it seems like a good approach to being content in whatever state you find yourself in.
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>>880
She's not actually handing out a maxim, she's saying that the point in time she lives in is the happiest time.
That anime is one of those pieces of 80s media that tries so hard to be the 80s that it feels uncanny. I feel a weird power behind that "now is the happiest time" line, as a /retro/fag watching it 34 years later and someone who absolutely despises the current state of anime.

If you'll take a spoiler: This "happiest time" conversation is a minor part of the plot and a message that is repeated through the anime. The anime is set in the decade of 2080, a cyberpunk version of the 1980s. Later we learn that a computer rules over part of humanity from the shadows, and that the entire world is fake, people are living in a city-sized spaceship full of refugees from a war that is many centuries old and they have forgotten the war entirely. This computer controls the ship, and it deduced that 2080 was the happiest point in time for humanity and set things up so they're perpetually living the world of 2080, it has been many hundreds of years since the real 2080. I forgot the exact year, I think it was 2086.
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LaserDisc/VHS only anime?
I watch BDs because BDs are just better, but there are plenty of shows that were only ever released on LD or tapes. There are also DVDs sourced from tapes and LDs.
There is plenty of material worth a watch that has only ever been released in these older mediums.

>Majo Demo Steady
The only torrents are sourced from VHS.
Very nice sudden girlfriend anime.
>Greed
The best release is a LD dumped with the Domesday Replicator by a fansub group called Orphan.
Fantasy anime. I'd also call this "philosophical anime" to an extent. It's pretty unique so there's not much to compare it to, it's also really good. 
>Circuit Angel
Some sort of early 2000s Need For Speed plot except in the form of a VHS-only anime. It's not a very good anime, but I think it's worth a watch.
>Nayuta
Only on VHS.
Extremely unique and extremely good anime, this time it's somewhat of a shoujo. 
>Maris The Choujo
Seems to be VHS-only.
Anime adaptation of a Rumiko Takahashi one-shot. Typical Rumiko anime.
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>>115
Speaking of which has anyone played the Deedlitvania game? It's really fun.
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>>1576
I had been meaning to play that, but I haven't quite gotten around to buying it.  I know the studio's pedigree is solid and the engine is good, but I just have some other things on my plate.

Deedlit's really pretty.
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Cybernetics Guardian, MD Geist, Apocalypse Zero and Golgo 13 are some of the more memorable ones I have watched.
>>564
The training music beginning at 1:10 sounds like Vangelis - Chariots of Fire!
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https://myanimelist.net/anime/39020/Flying_Luna_Clipper
Torrent: https://nyaa.si/view/1317261
I sincerely hope you all enjoy this as thoroughly as I did.
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first time being here!!! any recommendation for 90s-00s anime><~?
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>>3243
Depends. What kind of genres do you like?

There’s no need to fill out the name field, by the way. We’re all anon here.
Been thinking about devouring my way through the .hack anime and/manga. Is it worth the plunge?
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>>3513
...Actually, would anyone object to me posting at least want one chapter of the manga?
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>>9 (OP) 

.hack//Tasogare no Udewa Densetsu 
Chapter 1, START! How about that old artstyle?
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>>3527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=equz4snO7hA
Meet Aura.
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>>3528
Did I do that? Woops. Anyway, short start.


NOT.
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>>3529
Scrub wants to fight the clay doll.
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Gotta say, while the initial setup isn't the most gripping, it is different enough. Almost an anti-Kirito start. That might make it a better fit for the Shonen genre than SAO's pseudo-isekai.  Worth it to keep going (besides, the designs and artwork are a nice change).
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>>3531
Thanks for posting these Anon. I've been meaning to get into .Hack. Is this Manga a good place to start?
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>>3544
I don't know, because .hack was never one of my big interests back in the day. All I remember is that this manga ended well. Perhaps giving it a second go in the present will open up the whole thing for me.

Shall I continue with it?
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I recently read Blitz Tactics Najica. 
It's the way more sapphic version of Agent Aika.
I liked the set up and mid chapters, but the conclusion felt very rushed.

Also has anyone noticed how bad preservation of old manga scanlations is? The translation and page resolution of Najica on the "usual" sites like MD was so bad that I opted to simply buyfag the original ADV localized physicals and read it that way.
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>>3531
Wagons ho. Enter Balmung.
>>3544
...I did a little homework, and the answer is in fact no. Explains why I was so confused when I read it back in middle/high school. But, it might help put a great many questions in your head which can be answered by the show (.hack/SIGN) and the games.
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>>3550
Hat boy's macguffin does something useful.
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>>3551
This really is a tiny chapter.
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>>3552
Let's go. Turns out it's not tiny, they just put two pages in one.
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>>3606
Chapter end.
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I thought this had been brought up earlier, but Gunsmith Cats is the epitome of 90s manga and anime.  The style, the subject matter (babes, guns, hard boiled crime), the action and violence all make it iconic.  It even got an OVA which covered one of the more compelling and straightforward stories, which was really cool.

God I wish I could find me a woman like Rally Vincent.
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>>3635
One thing I find odd is how the anime seems known only to anime enthusiasts despite it being popular enough in America to warrant several volumes published through Dark Horse's manga branch (Gunsmith Cats Revised Edition).  I found these on BakaBT and they've been a great way to read the series; the translation is faithful to the source material while still being suitable for the subject matter; Chicago gangsters will swear as you'd expect, and call women "broads."  Dark Horse even had the guts to publish it with the proper right-to-left orientation.

The other way that the series was published in America was as Gunsmith Cats Burst, which is a bizarre collection of individual chapters that have nothing to do with each other, heavily localized butchered to read like an American comic book.  The orientation is flipped and the characters constantly speak with odd accents or dialects that don't make any sense.

What series do you guys associate with the style of the 90s?  Any that seem to have slipped from public consciousness?
>>3635
.hackanon here. How would you feel about bringing out more Gunsmith Cats (or another oldie) whileI contine with .hack?
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>>3643
I don't know what any of that means or entails.  I can give you the files I've torrented if you're looking for those to stream or something.
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>>3655
It means posting chapters in clusters of pictures like >>3605 did. Pretty straightforward, really.8
>>9 (OP) 
I had entirely forgotten that Harlock was that old. Was the first one good too?
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>>3764
The story is full of asspulls, but it's a cool adventure, it's unique, Harlock is likeable, and the Matsumoto women are nice.
>>3795

Yahoo, it worked! I'll get on that this evening after work.
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>>3803

The mecha show of my childhood, of my high school years. The journey into mystery and memory.

Surely some of you remember...?
>>3813
I remember two things about it. The OP was great, and it is a rare example where an anime is explicitly influenced by a western cartoon. Namely Bruce Timm's Batman TAS.
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>>3544
The original 4 stories were the book, the anime, the games + ova and the manga, and you are supposed to go through them in that order. The book is really good but the anime is so bad, the creators clearly had no idea how online games work. I've yet to play the games and read the manga.
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00:00-00:04 Only Yesterday/Omohide poro poro, 1991
00:05-00:07 You're Under Arrest (1996)
00:07-00:08 Macross 7 (1994)
00:08-00:10 Cardcaptor Sakura (1998)
00:10-00:11 Serial Experiments Lain (1998)
00:11-00:12 Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade (1999)
00:12-00:14 Memories (1995)
00:14-00:16 Cowboy Bebop (1998)
00:16-00:17 21 Ghost in the Shell (1995)
00:18-00:19 City Hunter (1987-1991)
00:19-00:19 Golden Boy (1995)
00:19-00:20 Great Teacher Onizuka (1999)
00:20-00:21 Only Yesterday (1991)
00:21-00:22 On Your Mark (1995)
00:22-00:23 Porco Rosso (1992)
00:23-00:23 Rurouni Kenshin (1996)
00:23-00:24 Princess Mononoke (1997)
00:24-00:25 Whisper of the Heart, 1995
00:26-00:28 Roujin Z (1991)
00:29-00:30 Macross Plus (1995)
00:30-00:31 Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon (1992)
00:31-00:32 Macross Plus (1995)
00:32-00:33 Mobile Suit Gundam The 08th MS Team (1996)
00:33-00:34 Princess Mononoke (1997)
00:34-00:35 Mobile Police Patlabor 2: The Movie (1993)
00:35-00:37 Revolutionary Girl Utena (1997),
00:37-00:38 Sonic Soldier Borgman (1988)
00:38-00:38 X/1999 (1996)
00:38-00:40 Memories (1995)
00:40-00:42 Ghost in the Shell (1995)
00:44-00:45 Perfect Blue (1998)
00:45-00:46 Oniisama e... (1991)
00:46-00:47 Ocean Waves (1993)
00:47-00:48 Ah! My Goddess OVA (1993)
00:48-00:48 Cowboy Bebop (1998)
00:49-00:49 Oniisama e... (1991)
00:49-00:49 Cowboy Bebop (1998)
00:50-00:52 Only Yesterday/Omohide poro poro, 1991
00:52-00:53 Whisper of the Heart, 1995
00:54-00:55 Kidou Senshi Gundam F91
00:55-00:55 Kite (1998)
00:55-00:56 Cowboy Bebop (1998)
00:56-00:58 The End of Evangelion (1997)
00:59-01:02 Ocean Waves (1993)
01:02-01:03 Neon Genesis Evangelion (1995)
01:04-01:06 The End of Evangelion (1997)
01:06-01:07 Oniisama e... (1991)
01:07-01:08 Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon (1992)
01:08-01:09 Trigun (1998)
01:09-01:11 Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade (1999)
01:12-01:12 Princess Mononoke (1997)
01:12-01:14 Kidou Senshi Gundam F91
01:15-01:16 Angel Cop (1989-1994)
01:16-01:16 Birdy the Mighty (1996)
01:16-01:17 Rurouni Kenshin (1996)
01:17-01:18 Macross 7 (1994)
01:18-01:19 Pokémon (1997)
01:19-01:20 Hunter x Hunter (1999)
01:20-01:21 The End of Evangelion (1997)
01:22-01:24 Serial Experiments Lain (1998)


00:17-00:18 Grave of the Fireflies (1988)
00:42-00:42 FLCL (2000)
00:43-00:44 Akira (1988)

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I'd like to know your (or anybody's) top five (or ten) from that list.  There are a lot of these I haven't seen.

(1988) Sonic Soldier Borgman
(1989-1994) Angel Cop
(1991) Oniisama e...
(1991) Only Yesterday
(1991) Only Yesterday/Omohide poro poro
(1992) Porco Rosso
(1993) Ah! My Goddess OVA
(1993) Mobile Police Patlabor 2: The Movie
(1993) Ocean Waves
(1994) Macross 7
(1995) Golden Boy
(1995) Macross Plus
(1995) Memories
(1995) On Your Mark
(1995) Whisper of the Heart
(1996) Mobile Suit Gundam The 08th MS Team
(1996) Rurouni Kenshin
(1996) X/1999
(1996) You're Under Arrest
(1997) Princess Mononoke
(1997) Revolutionary Girl Utena,
(1998) Cardcaptor Sakura
(1998) Kite
(1998) Perfect Blue
(1999) Great Teacher Onizuka
(1999) Hunter x Hunter
(1999) Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
Kidou Senshi Gundam F91
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>>3813
>Surely some of you remember...?
Rewatched it some weeks ago, first season is as good as i remembered, second one is a mess due to the Evangelion influence which frankly isn't that bad because the creators never took the story seriously to begin with (Gundam-esque, made for toys) and because of the animation style along with the non-episodic form factor, still at least it finished but who knows what would've been with the original two more seasons.
I keep going back at it, have watched it like 4 times by now but second season only twice. Dorothy is a rare case in which i fully enjoyed a female co-protag.

>>3814
>explicitly influenced by a western cartoon. Namely Bruce Timm's Batman TAS.
Sunrise Studio team that was in charge of Big O were, at least in the first season, actually key animators and overseas workers for Batman TAS so they knew exactly how to make it feel like it. Americans used tons of japs and gooks for their own work.
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I finally got around to playing Record of Lodoss War: Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth. It had a lot of the same good things as previous Ladybug games, but a lot of the same jarring oversights. You can easily abuse I-frames combined with the game's two-color projectile mechanic to ignore the challenge of most fights, and the exploration aspect never felt really invigorating or mysterious. I think the most fun I had with it was trying to chain together movement tricks to manipulate my falling speed in vertical areas.

It's a beautiful game but incredibly shallow, and it does barely anything with the established Lodoss characters. The story may as well literally have been "and then it was all a dream." There isn't even any fun fanservice or nods to the continuity of either the original Lodoss anime series or Chronicles of the Heroic Knight.

>>3813
I've only ever heard of this once or twice but the style seems great. I will need to give it a watch once my plate clears.
Where the fuck can i find dvdrips of older anime? I'm so sick of these upscaled, denoised soulless crap by every weebfaggot release group. I hate this obsession with clean and sterile picture.
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>>4219
You might find some older torrents on the pirate bay, just hope someone's still seeding them. Otherwise check archive.org
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>>4224
Couldn't really find any torrents with seeders, and archive.org doesn't have everything and sometimes it's in a really crappy quality. But I found this website after searching for a filename I found in a dead torrent, it pretty much has everything I wanted:
https://www.tokyoinsider.com/
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>>891
I found tons of great quality VHS and LaserDisc rips on this awesome channel called VHS No Anime
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWi4Wm-AcwytXibfBnyc2bw
I don't know what the fuck is up with the dude tho, for some reason he doesn't want to upload them anywhere else.
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>>4360
That's weird, you should mirror them while you still can anon.
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>>4226
>Couldn't really find any torrents with seeders
A surprising number of torrents display 0 seeds on TPB but if you queue them up for a few days a seed might pop up... Worth a try for the really rare stuff.

>>4362
Seconding this. YT is not to be trusted.
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>>4219
do what >>4226 says, have it run 24/7 on a home server (which you should really have by now) and eventually someone will seed it to you.
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>>4366
That literally never ever happens and it doesn't matter anyway because that website is a million times better than hunting for shitty torrents.
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>>4369
it's happened to me more times than i can count and then i become the one seeding it to everyone else. i had a good 4K rip of attack of the clones sitting idle for months before someone seeded the whole thing to me, now i'm seeind it to everyone else with a ludicrous ratio.
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>>4370
Mate I'm talking about 15+ years old torrents, no one is going to show up to seed those when there are tons of better quality rips available. And this conversation is pointless, I already said that website has everything I've ever wanted, it's like an archive for ancient dvd rips. My taste is very specific and I already downloaded every anime that fits my criteria.
>>4370
>then i become the one seeding it to everyone
That's literally me haha, every now and then I boot up my old computer and seed torrents going all the way back to 2008/2009, and there's almost always someone leeching. It's a special kind of feeling I tell ya! 
The best thing about torrents is that they're practically forever, unlike regular file hosting... Rapidshare came and went, and so did Zippyshare and MegaUpload, yet there are torrents older than all of these and still alive and kicking.
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>>4373
What sorts are the eldest?
https://www.vap.co.jp/elfenlied/# Hey, anyone want to tell me how this site works, or how to make it work? Clicking on "main" just means a blank red page for me.
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>>4652
Wow, a Macromedia-era website.
>This site requires flash player.
It's self-explanatory. This site has had no chance of working without Flash emulation since 2020. In the future, use Ctrl+U to investigate broken sites. The Flash file for main.html is at https://www.vap.co.jp/elfenlied/main.swf.
You can try using https://archive.org/details/flashplayer_old to run the Flash. Don't be surprised if it's full of dead hyperlinks and broken web content.
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>>4653
Woops, https://www.vap.co.jp/elfenlied/main.swf (I didn't mean for the period to become part of the link).
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>>4654
Huh. Cool, anon.  As thanks, I'll bring another of >>3813
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>>4658
Woops, those are from the wrong chapters entirely. How did I do that. Oh well. 

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Anyone ever watch or read Planetes? I think I found it via BakaBT's random button but it's one of my favorite anime series; the manga is beautiful but has a really weak ending so I overall prefer the anime for depicting a near-future world with low and zero gravity so well.
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I watched Planetes, but it was years ago. About the only things I remember now are the opening scene of the disaster caused by the orbiting bolt, and the fact the 12yo girl was as big as a fullgrown woman.
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>>4685
What all's good about it?
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The Lunarian girl, yeah. It was nice to see a series that had science fiction concepts like people living on the moon and added details like the health problems a human would face growing up and going through puberty at a fraction of Earth gravity.

>>4692
The number one thing I can say about both the anime and the manga is that they are absolutely gorgeous. The manga was published in 1999, so stylistically it combines the 90s grit with the more human proportions and style that became prevalent in the 00s. Visually, the manga is a beautiful blend of highly detailled mechanical stuff and endearing human characters with incredible detail put into the backgrounds and set dressing. The anime is also very detailled given that it aired in 2003-04, around the time that anime began to lose its way and rely too much on digital shortcuts.

The anime is also incredibly sound on a technical level, which is especially impressive since so much of the series takes place in zero-gravity, low-G, and normal-G environments, the characters often require a fundamentally different approach to how they're animated. It'd be really easy to have a lot of bland, slideshow shots of them sliding across stiff backgrounds, but whenever the characters aren't in normal-G environments they actually move like it. The sound design underscores this too: the characters' voices are muffled by their spacesuits or sound staticky over radio transmissions, and when big things crash into each other in space there isn't any big sound effect because sound can't travel in a vacuum.

Thematically, it was a lot of fun to explore the setting since it combined something as bold and exciting as space flight with the mundanities of modern living. Astronauts aren't heroes: they're working stiffs, garbage men, and mechanics just like the rest of us. They're not exempt from being mobbed by door-to-door salesmen or having to brownnose their way up the corporate ladder, but despite how cynical a lot of the events actually are it never feels like a cynical series. There's serious thought and maturity put into a lot of the little events. Broadly, there is this notion of how w can either live alone in the void and accept the cold purity of space, or how we can choose to live with other people, love and be loved, and enjoy the warmth of human life.

For instance, in the first episode of the anime, we are introduced to the ragtag band of misfits who make up the space debris retrieval section of their company (called Half Section, since they're half-funded, half-staffed, and perceived to be half-witted). The first assignment is to alter the orbit of a memorial sent into space to protest against violence in some third world country so that it falls into orbit and burns up during reentry. The memorial is currently on an intercept course with a military satellite operated by the setting's equivalent of the United Nations who are "peacekeeping" in that region. The young, optimistic new hire girl in Half Section protests against doing this because it's Wrong and Immoral and How Dare You... until she learns that the memorial was installed in space by the UN themselves as a hollow propaganda gesture, at which point she goes along with it. There's even a further small twist that happens later but I won't give that one away.
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Some examples of the anime addressing how astronauts actually move around in zero-G environments.
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