/retro/ - Y2K

>>5198
And how did the process of subscribing work? As in, did they mail you an instruction booklet alongside your username and password, and maybe a floppy with telix to make sure that you can log in?

>>5200
I don't know how it worked for other people, but for me it went like this:
> Ordered parts over the phone to build a 486 PC to run Doom in 1994. I already had the 3-episode game on floppy disk (copied from someone else). They also copied the MSDOS 6 install disks for me.
> Received box of parts in the mail, put everything together, played a lot of Doom!
> Some month later bought a 14.4K modem from a local store. In the box was also a floppy disk with very basic comms software (not as nice as Telix, but enough to get started).
> Called some local BBS that I found the number for somewhere (probably in a magazine?) Anyway I don't remember which board it was exactly. But from here I quickly found numbers for many, many other local BBS, and wrote them down, and started calling them.
The way it works on BBS is you have to login with username/password. But if you don't have an account, you can create one and enter your personal infos like real name, address, phone number, and whatever username/password you want to use on that board. Then the sysop will review it and probably OK it, unless you're a known lamer (troublemaker). Then the next time you call the BBS, you'll find out if your account is active, or if you were denied.
I didn't get Internet access until later on, when

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmigaOS_4
>AmigaOS 4 (abbreviated as OS4 or AOS4) is a line of Amiga operating systems which runs on PowerPC microprocessors. It is mainly based on AmigaOS 3.1 source code developed by Commodore, and partially on version 3.9 developed by Haage & Partner.[2] "The Final Update" (for OS version 4.0) was released on 24 December 2006 (originally released in April 2004)[3] after five years of development by the Belgian company Hyperion Entertainment under license from Amiga, Inc. for AmigaOne registered users.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmigaOne
>AmigaOne is a series of computers intended to run AmigaOS 4 developed by Hyperion Entertainment, as a successor to the Amiga series by Commodore International. Unlike the original Amiga computers which used Motorola 68k processors, the AmigaOne line uses PowerPC processors. Earlier models were produced by Eyetech; in September 2009, Hyperion secured an exclusive licence for the AmigaOne name and subsequently new AmigaOne computers were released by A-Eon Technology and Acube Systems. 
Looks like the OS is still being updated, and the latest AmigaOne is from 2024. Still, I'm really not sure how retro these reall

>>5221
>it wouldn't be any more retro than any other random alternative x86.
I mean, any other random alternative to x86.

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>>5221
> I'm really not sure how retro these really are
It's not. If you want an Amiga, get a 68k model. If you want a modern Amiga-like system, run AROS on a hardware that can boot it on bare metal. If you just want to run old Amiga software, use an emulator (they even have some Linux distro that boots into the emulator on Raspberry Pi board).
All the post-68k Amiga models are just lame cash-grabs for milking boomer Amiga users by $CURRENT_YEAR_AMIGA_IP_OWNER. They pay a lot of money just to have something that says "Amiga" on it, even though it's just another boring modern computer.

>>2851
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBS:_The_Documentary
>BBS: The Documentary (commonly referred to as BBS Documentary) is a 3-disc, 8-episode documentary about the subculture born from the creation of the bulletin board system (BBS) filmed by computer historian Jason Scott of textfiles.com.
> Wired called it "a five-and-a-half-hour paean to the era when computers were named Stacy and Lisa, and tech loyalists fought bitter battles over the superiority of Ataris to Amigas".
Not that I care about Wired, but a documentary this long made by people who are actually part of the subculture should be at least informative, so I might as well bump this thread.

Also, if you want to run a BBS you should also consider using existing BBS software:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BBS_software

>>5211
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_(BBS_software)
>Waffle is a bulletin-board system created by Tom Dell for the Dark Side of the Moon BBS which ran under DOS and later UNIX. The software was unique among DOS BBS software in many ways, including the fact that all of the configuration files were in readable text files, and that it fully supported Usenet and UUCP on the DOS platform.
>A Usenet news group named comp.bbs.waffle was created for discussion of the Waffle BBS System.
>Waffle was first released in 1989.[1] The last version seems to be v1.65.[2] There was a beta version of 1.66 on the main site, but it was never released.
>It was possible to link Waffle (under DOS) to Fidonet and WWIV using external gateway utilities. 
This definitely sounds interesting, but there is surprisingly little info available. Still, there is the source code for a UNIX version here:
https://archive.org/details/unix-waffle-1.64-src

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>>2848
> goto10.fr (Minitel)
This looks so much nicer and easier to use than the shitty sncf.fr website that usually never works right with any of my web browsers. ;_;
The moderm web a shit!

>>5212
Although if you want a BBS with usenet integration then there is at least one still maintained alternative:
https://www.synchro.net/
https://wiki.synchro.net/module:newslink?s[]=nntp

https://synchro.net/sbbslist.html
I've tried to visit a few of these, and it seems like that either ssh doesn't work, or I just can't figure out what am I supposed to do. Telnet connections are perfectly fine, but if I try to enter with ssh followed by the domain of the bbs, then it just tries to log in as my Linux user. And I can't figure out if I need to add a flag to ssh or an user before the domain or something else.

>>4685
I watched Planetes, but it was years ago. About the only things I remember now are the opening scene of the disaster caused by the orbiting bolt, and the fact the 12yo girl was as big as a fullgrown woman.

>>4685
What all's good about it?

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>>4690
The Lunarian girl, yeah. It was nice to see a series that had science fiction concepts like people living on the moon and added details like the health problems a human would face growing up and going through puberty at a fraction of Earth gravity.

>>4692
The number one thing I can say about both the anime and the manga is that they are absolutely gorgeous. The manga was published in 1999, so stylistically it combines the 90s grit with the more human proportions and style that became prevalent in the 00s. Visually, the manga is a beautiful blend of highly detailled mechanical stuff and endearing human characters with incredible detail put into the backgrounds and set dressing. The anime is also very detailled given that it aired in 2003-04, around the time that anime began to lose its way and rely too much on digital shortcuts.

The anime is also incredibly sound on a technical level, which is especially impressive since so much of the series takes place in zero-gravity, low-G, and normal-G environments, the characters often require a fundamentally different approach to how they're animated. It'd be really easy to have a lot of bland, slideshow shots of them sliding across stiff backgrounds, but whenever the characters aren't in normal-G environments they actually move like it. The sound design underscores this too: the 

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>>4700
Some examples of the anime addressing how astronauts actually move around in zero-G environments.

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Manga! BBC TV Special
The Beeb's 1994 documentary on the manga and anime phenomenon that was just starting to hit the UK at the time, and its origins in Japan. Presented by Jonathan Ross.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g89WoIJGY0M

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>>5202 (OP) 
I completely get what you mean. These kinds of images from the aesthetics thread illustrate what come to mind for me, especially when paired with smooth-jazz-like background music. The "den5" image doesn't quite feel as upscale as what's in my head though. I picture a more minimal and classy-looking computer setup and darker walls, with maybe more simplified decorations. I'd also nix the file tray and pen holder and add a skyscraper view. And a green marble desk too. For whatever reason, my mind always jumps to green marble surfaces. I'm not bashing the way the guy made the image, but I think it looks too middle management for the subject at hand. It should look like the type of office you could picture a suave but potentially villainous CEO character sitting in in a sci-fi movie from decades ago. He could be poised confidently with his hands in a scholars' cradle position as the majordomo of his operation leads the protagonist into his den, or maybe he could be self-assuredly surveying the city outside his window in a moment of repose.

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>>5202 (OP) 
I think I get it, but calling it officepunk is certainly wrong. Punks are essentially angry street urchin with their own subculture(s), so calling everything whateverpunk is just wrong, especially because a corpo environment is the exact opposite of a bunch of angry street urchin who are so low in the hierarchy that they are trying to move outside of society instead of upward. Calling it XXth century office aesthetics or something along those lines might be clumsy, but also more accurate.

>>5205
>calling it officepunk is certainly wrong
In the vaporwave (music genre) sphere people call this "officesoft", which is a combination of "Office" and "(micro)Soft". I think I prefer that term.
>angry street urchin
LMAO!

>>5206
Officesoft is a better term for it, no doubt. I will have to go searching for artists who make it.

I have been meaning to get productive with Blender so perhaps this will help inspire me. (Probably not. I am terribly lazy.)

>>5186
>I guess it's been out of usage for a very long time. Maybe it's time to bring it back? 
It fell out of favour to such a degree that a bunch youtubers had to save the source code:
https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=CUwR9xdEuZI

>>5186
>>5187
Wow, these are really interesting. Thanks Anons!

>>4516 (OP) 
>All in the Family
>this is something that would not come out today
There were rumors of remake, but it seems that no studio wanted to go there
>>4525
>Archie Bunker was a character who was supposed to make the people he's patterned after look bad. It ended up backfiring when audiences end up liking him and identifying with him.
This. From what I've seen of All in the Family there is an aspect to it that is even common place in many contemporary Netflix shows and that is the moralizing. Even back then, the Archie Bunker character couldn't exist on television as some neutral character study about an otherwise unremarkable funny old guy who had his opinions, but wasn't going out of his way to hurt anyone and, as an unremarkable funny old guy, didn't have the power to oppress anyone, yet that character had to serve as the foil for how not to be and his worldview was often the butt of the jokes. Other shows produced by Norman Lear are similar in this respect in that on the surface they appear as superficial comedies, but they wouldn't have been broadcast if not for the ideology that they were espousing.
>Was the 90s more tolerant than today?
In some ways, yes, but as far as mainstream me

>>5190
>insufferable aspect of so much mainstream media having to be these stealth ideological and moral allegories rather than just telling a straight story for the sake of it.
It would have all been more "sufferable" but for one basic fact: kikes did (and do) run everything in Hollyjew.

That effectively ensures that all the 'stories' line up *  according to the ((( script ))), and that anyone who gets out of line (cf. Mel Gibson) gets blackballed permanently. Thankfully Mel had staying power out of his own pockets and the fact he was incredibly-popular with audiences.

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*  Hollywood is highly "incestuous" (their term): everybody knows everybody. This both makes it hard to break into, and easy to be punitive towards anyone going against the ((( narrative ))) code.

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>>5187
Unfortunately I get errors with yt-dlp even after upgrading all my installed packages, so I can't watch their video. In fact the OS did upgrade the yt-dlp package to a newer version, but it's still "too old" for youtube's shenanigans. The yt-dlp program recommended me to use "pip" to install an entire second set of Python stuff, but I think that's not worth the hassle. And anyway this pretty much illustrates just how aggravating the modern internet has become. I still remember when video files were simply downloaded into your web browser's cache directory, and you could just copy it to another directory in your $HOME to save it. That was simple enough! But then they had to change it, make everything super-duper complicated and require obnoxious workarounds to extract the video and audio streams, and then run ffmpeg to recombine them into a container format like .webm or .mp4 or whatnot. When everything magically works, that still sucks because ffmpeg runs like molasses on ARM hardware. Video playback with ffplay is no problem, but video editing with ffmpeg takes ages! So I'm just going to save myself the headache and simply delete this youtube downloader nonsense. From now on, if I can't just grab a video file directly, I'm not going to bother at all.
And basically this is what I was getting at earlier. We used to host files on FTP servers, Gopher servers, and so on. That's still possible today, those pro

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>>5 (OP) 
In a few ways I do, I'm fond of the stuff I grew up with, at the same time I feel it was bad for me to have access to so much stuff from such a young age with the internet and all, it made my brain less sensible to this stuff, to the point where when it was time to finally do it for real, I suffered from ED for months, even now I'm still not perfect, though I'm a lot better, and when I want to make sure I'll pull it off I just use some medication, which back then barely worked because my case was so bad, now it's a treat. Anyways, besides the ED, I feel like the constant need for more stimulus made me develop unrealistic expectations, and fetishes I don't feel proud off, but can't get rid off no matter how long I stay away from all kinds of pornography, I should've used it less.

It's a double edged sword for me.

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>bring up some good old fashioned hentai
>look over the pages robotically
>no longer horny
>imagine having a gf
>instantly very horny and very angry and very sad
Could just be me getting older, but when I was younger almost everything got me fired up really easily. It takes a lot more to titillate me these days.

I focus on AI these days with very carefully curated text erotica it can be great but only when I really manage to get immersed and don't end up writing stupid shit or the AI slopped everything up. I don't think I have changed much tbh, it's just that everything that's out there is so crappy. 70s and 80s porn and 00s early internet amateur kind of stuff was often pretty good and still is if you look at it now. If I open any regular pornsite nowadays I just get disgusted. The people are ugly and what they do is gross. I don't think it's me, either.

>>4996
genAI porn is like having a bottomless pit in your brain. It's truly going to be the distinction between people who can control themselves and people who can only be led around by surges of brain chemicals.

Getting my mind back took years after I'd spent formative years training myself on "regular" porn. Having infinite media that looks 85% close to your mental image will do horrible things to the human mind.

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>Slut Girl
>Spunky Knight
>Cool Devices
>Bondage Fairies
>50 gorillion amateur illustrations of Goku & Sailor Moon
There were good times, to be sure.

>>4996
>If I open any regular pornsite nowadays I just get disgusted. The people are ugly and what they do is gross. I don't think it's me, either.
This. I can't stand 99.8% of 3D. Once in a VERY blue moon I'll look into some OF chick who's legitimately attractive, save a few pics, and move on. Won't even fap, just "oh, this one's cute."

Everything else either streams of gross white trash jerking off between shifts at Dollar General or plastic-looking "AI SLAVE TO FUCK SHE HAS TO DO IT CLICK HERE." The fact that neither has slowed down their relentless ads means that they're actually popular, there's some malign agenda behind them, or bith.

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>>4210
>after the first prototypes were made
And speaking of, here they are! We got pics of Starscream and Cheetor. I believe Starscream was going to include electronics and as you can see, some of his joints were even going to be made of clear plastic. I'm pretty sure it would eventually degrade like a lot of clear plastic toys, but it does looks cool. Cheetor's pics include the steps for his transformation. Sadly, it's unfinished and we never got a look at his robot mode.

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>>4210
>>4211
I wonder if the movie designs would've been as polarizing if these had come out first

>>4210
>>4211
>>4212
Cool anon! It's always interesting to see cancelled toys/toy prototypes. 

I really dig Cheetor, he looks like really fun and awesome toy. 

>if this counts
It does, since it was meant to release in 2000's and you can just see the cool sleek 2000's futurism. 
 
>I wonder if the movie designs would've been as polarizing if these had come out first
Yes, since the movie designs are typical ugly grey greebled CGIshit of *2010's. The designs you post are so much cooler, smooth, sleek, colorful and have defined shapes that don't look like random scrap metal. 

*Yes the first movie was released in '07, but is still closer both in spirit and time to the 2010's.

I forgot about Rescue Heroes for the longest time, but they just popped into my head recently and I remembered how lame I thought they were.

>>4212
Blackarachnia looks really cool in that first pic. Reminds me of the mech suits from Bubblegum Crisis.

>>831
The one where I live went out of business recently. It's sad, but I was glad it was able to hang on for so long.

Some of my fondest early childhood memories include renting Super Nintendo games from a Family Video store.

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>>475 (OP) 
It's odd... on one hand, what we have now, especially if you consider the ease of piracy aswell, is essentially my childhood dream, and yet, now that I have it, I yearn for what I once had, at a time where I longed for what I have now... is the human being just impossible to please? Is it just nostalgia? I'm not sure, but perhaps I simply overestimated how good having infinite choices was, and the limitations made something like a single choice for a weekend feel like the most special thing, anyways I do miss them.

>>475 (OP) 
I don't. While I have fond memories of them, torrents are more convenient and free.

>>5135
I wouldn't want to go back to rental stores, but it feels less meaningful to me to being able to get almost anything I'm after on the Internet.

>>4861
To be honest I think it's mostly nostalgia. Going to the rental store was a fun ritual and all, but I don't miss not finding my favorite movies or those rare films that never made it to home video. Plus the constant audiovisual issues that plague VHS tapes were a complete killjoy.
If you want the VHS renting experience today just go to the internet archive and browse the VHS rips collection, pick a movie at random and watch it. You'll find a lot of low quality garbage but also some nice hidden gems, at least that was my experience.
If you ever visit /vhs/ you might stumble upon some of the reviews I wrote

>>5058
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fukuoka down

In general what do y’all think was the best 90’s-2000’s era site

2ch since there is so much stuff that has come from it.

>>4924
Hey, they aren't gooners, they're shortstack appreciators and men of culture.

>>4925
>blue furry avatar talking at camera
Hmm.
>from a tiny channel with 2K subs whose last video was 7 years ago
Okay, it's probably legit then.

>>4925
I think I saw that even before I even made that post, but thanks anyway for posting it. I couldn't remember what the video was called.

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The artist behind Studio Tanuki who made Bunny Maloney (AKA Pinpin Le Lapin, AKA Lupin III if he were a horny French rabbit guy) has made a new website:
https://studiotanuki.com/

There was a pretty big resurgence in Bunny Maloney interest from some viral video essays a year and a half ago, so the creator has been trying to ride that wave. He's quite active on Twitter and Bluesky, mostly Twitter, and he's been trying to contact the networks to ask if they can take the hard drives with the lost episodes out of storage, or to otherwise confirm who actually owns the series and what can be done with it.
https://x.com/studio_tanuki_
https://bsky.app/profile/bunny-maloney.bsky.social

>wtf is bunny maloney
Animated show from the late 00s with a Frutiger Metro aesthetic. It was broadcast in a bunch of different languages but its lasting impression is the dichotomy of looking like a young kids' show but having humor and characters that would fit in a show for teens. There are a lot of dick and sex jokes, bodily fluid jokes, and references to surprisingly old anime. In the original PinPin Le Lapin Flash animation there's 

>>4976
Kinda similiar design to Groove Armada music video

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>>4982
Update: the creator was contacted by Mediatoon, who have the episodes in HD and will be uploading them to this YouTube channel in the coming months. There was actually a bit of confusion about this at first since they started uploading stuff without contacting him, but he's confirmed it's the real rights/media holders. Lost media coming back from the brink.

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=qnaP_7iHjkk