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Wanna watch some /retro/ TV? Check out https://www.my00stv.com/

RULES

BUNKER


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I want to go back. When browsing the Web felt like going on an adventure.

What substitutes for "Wild West" these days? All I can think of are Tor, Zeronet, and the vast array of imageboards. Discord can feel pretty wild too sometimes, that is if you can find the right servers.

Post what you know, please.
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Could you enable anonymous posting on usenet if you had a server with a single user whose name and password are public knowledge (e.g. anon; anon)? I mean, I see no technical reason you cannot do it right now, but I am not familiar enough with the technology and culture to decide if it would be a good idea.
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>>168 (OP) 
Vrchat , webXR, fediverse
>>176
ipfs recently been hosting dynamic dApps chats, forums with Orbitdb
https://hashchan.network 
https://plebchan.eth.limo/#/
https://plebbit.com

>>371 
we had local city wide wan ethernet 20 years ago. not much anymore.
>>4237
kewl
>>168 (OP) 
yup
>>4746
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I see problem of bubbles.
Like boards/chans/webring bubbles, that are hard to escape.

thoughts:
- try non-web, p2p protocols. (dApps today is pretty wild west). Nothing scary about blockchain, or holochain. Just review the source and compile it locally.
- I'm not interested in yet another entertainment brainrot web page. I want to see project management systems where communities collaborate, create, work together. 

ah, https://radicle.xyz/ btw
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>>4943
I don't know anything about stuff like this, but Plebbit and Plebchan look interesting. How do they plan on dealing with illegal content, exactly? If it's a peer-to-peer system, wouldn't that that be a legal liability for users if unscrupulous characters decided to shit a board up with cheese pizza or whatever? I know people have mentioned that being a problem with torrent-style frameworks for imageboards and such in the past.

I can't say I'm a fan of the name either. Reddit will always be Plebbit to me.
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>>4945
Never mind. From what I've just read, their way of getting around that is that they don't actually host images themselves.

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Which ones are your favorites?

Pic related
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>>4612
The subtle background continuity for each of the characters had great payoffs in later seasons.
- Malcolm goes from middle school to high school to considering college and potentially getting into foreign exchange programs.
- Reese discovers he's an incredibly gifted cook, but has more fun beating up nerds so he squanders his potential.
- Dewey gets put into a class for emotionally stunted kids and turns to music in order to have some kind of emotional vent.
- Hal's company gets investigated for CEO embezzlement and everyone conspires to pin the blame on him, but because he's been such a bad employee over the years he physically couldn't have done what he's been accused of.

I think the only real exception to this is Lois getting pregnant and having another kid, although I suspect that was due to Jane Kaczmarek having a kid IRL.
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>>4613
The webms only have background music and sound effects, no speech... Are they supposed to be like that?
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>>4614
Must be a browser issue on your end. They played fine on my machine in MPV.net and the opera.webm is working on LibreWolf when I play it here. 

joke.mp4 and eggs.mp4 don't load for me, either inline or when viewing the source. Perhaps these webms will work.
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They're all playing for me now.
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Just saw the Double Dragon film, and it was unironically a very etertaining movie. Yes, it was silly and extremely stupid, but it also had something "earnest" about it inronically enough. Much more so than all of the recent productions that try to "replicate" that cheesiness of 90's sci-fi and fantasy films.

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My grandfather introduced me to "All in the Family" the other day, and I started binge watching it out of a sense of...how edgy it was.  Like this is something that would not come out today.
Some time ago, I was reading some old Usenet posts and thought, "Holy cow, how did this not get banned/deleted?"  Post/users like that would just immediately get scrubbed now.
I recently saw "Freddie Got Fingered" and was kind of amazed that that was in theaters.

Was the 90s more tolerant than today?  Was everything really this edgy?  Or is this some sort of weird survival bias?  The only thing today that I can think of that comes anywhere close is Southpark, but I'm not sure that counts because Southpark came out in the 90s.
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>>4581
Newgrounds was losing relevance after the death of flash, so when Deviantart and Tumblr went to shit NG pivoted to being the "alternative" art website. Come to think of it NG was always full of degenerates so I'm not too worried about them, I would only worry about the censorship culture that permeated DA/Tumblr seeping into NG.
My mom watches this sometimes and she told me that they put a disclaimer before the reruns claiming that the show doesn't represent the views of the network airing it because of how "outdated" it is despite being edgy when it was airing.
>>4516 (OP) 
As others have already pointed out, Archie Bunker's character was written as satire, much like Homer Simpson.  That is to say that media provides prescriptive rather than descriptive depictions of society.

It's a relatively small group of people who decide what to prescribe as "real", so I wouldn't put any stock in the fact that such-and-such used to be considered kosher.
Well OP, people weren't such political correct pussies back then. This is how they could laugh at someone like Archie Bunker. Now that commies have politicized everything, you can't do anything but either propaganda or something like the Care Bears.
There was some of this, sure, but the bulk of daytime TV was squeaky clean, especially the stuff on network TV over the rabbit ears. After hours (8 or 9ish) this stuff came on, especially if you had cable TV.

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It has come to my attention that we don't have a wallpaper thread. Let's fix that.
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And with this the batch of retro wallpaper I have actually downloaded for future use is dumped completely. I had some other, but their resolution is not the best. The oldest ones are from spring 2008, which was exactly the time when 1080p became available to people with way too much money for a flat screen monitor. at the time, still had been using my old CRT monitor that I have autistically slapped full of stickers.
>>4895
Nice dump, Anon. Thanks!
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>>4252
The most ubiquitous resolutions for mid 2000s was about 1024*800 or 1280*1024 if you went really crazy on CRT. The most common wide screen at the time was 	1440*900 and 1600*1024. Latter once again if your really went crazy. Full HD wasn't as quickly adopted for Computer Desktops as in the living room where CRT TVs were dying like flies. Usually due to wear or simply incompatibility  with HDMI which most media player and 6th gen consoles used for displaying sharper images.

>>4908
Thanks.

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Started collecting these recently. I've uploaded everything I've got (160+ skins) to the Internet Archive.
https://archive.org/download/windowsmediaplayerskinscollection
Most skins were retrieved from Microsoft and The Skins Factory through the Wayback Machine, although some were obtained through other means. Enjoy.
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>>4123
>SDL2
Sounds good, I'll mess with it a bit and see if I can get it just to draw the basic skin at first. It'll just take some time for me to learn it.

>How important is the JS when rendering the skins? Just being able to map the play/pause/stop/etc buttons on each skin would be a good first step.
I don't think it's vital yet, there's specially-defined XML tags for basic playback controls (playbutton, pausebutton, etc) that don't use JS.
Does anyone know if its possible to retrieve the streaming radio list and station infomation from winamp/realplayer/wmp?
I want something like this for VLC. Not too many choices apparent so far.

Lol, google sucks now.
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I know I'm very late to this but you're missing this default skin. I remember this one but it's not on here. thanx if you add it, and it's okay if you can't :D
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i love you

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What is your favorite operating system? Do you prefer MS-DOS, Windows 3.1, 95, or something else? FreeDOS? Some flavor of Linux?
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Just stumbled upon this page full of screenshots from around 2002:
https://anders.unix.se/2015/10/28/screenshots-from-developers--unix-people-2002/
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>>4888
>digits
Interesting, thanks.
Linux mint, it just werks
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>>4890
I use it for that reason, but I don't consider it ideal or anything.
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Why not the Amiga-OS ?

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Anybody want to talk about the fanfiction scene of the 1990's and 2000's? 


That whole era was a big deal for us fanfic spergs. Before the internet, fanfic was very obscure even for nerd stuff.


The rise of the internet in the latter half of the 90's is when fanfiction started to take off and diversify.


The 2000's was a golden age of fanfiction in my opinion, with the heyday of FFN and things like Deviant Art being seen more as a novelty than a punchline.


Even 2000's badfic was sort of legendary. My Immortal and Christian Humber Reloaded are both mid-2000's time capsules in many ways.

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>>3639
One of my favorite shows, if not my #1 favorite. Like >>3640 says you'll either love it or hate it.
>>3634
I remember watching a few episodes of Lexx as a kid, didn't really gravitate towards it at the time. I remember a few years ago coming across streams on CyTube and thought about actually giving a series a try. Definitely love the link you provided. Going to have to back up my HDD and make space and download some shows from that period, starting with Lexx.
I wonder, is Inuyasha worth trawling for fics?
What are your top-3 fanfics ? The ones you enjoyed reading the most or that you keep coming back to
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>>4863
I was never really on the edge of my seat reading fanfics, and "these were to my taste a quarter-century ago" is not much of an endorsement, but...

Some madman made a crossover of Duke Nukem and Neverwinter Nights.  I'm pretty sure it's lost to the ether now, but when I was grabbling FFN and AO3 archives from IA, it was the only thing I specifically sought out.

There was also a Diablo/StarCraft crossover, which is still up: http://theboojum.com/Tales/Dumptruk/HellCraft/hellcraft.htm

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I miss video rental stores
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Just being able to hold onto something, look at it, manipulate it in your hands is becoming a thing of the past. It's still possible, going for thrift or markets, or small time stores still gives that to you, but the whole rental aspect is sadly and truly dead.
>>477
This.
I miss more when owning your movies/music was the norm, before streaming took over. Sure you can still buy physical CDs/DVDs, but nowadays those get released less and less. Also you have shit like Bluray that will outright refuse to play on certain devices... On the bright side we can now rip music from streaming platforms so I guess that's the next best thing?
I have a Family Video near me that's going strong ever since Blockbuster went bust.
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>>831
The one where I live went out of business recently. It's sad, but I was glad it was able to hang on for so long.

Some of my fondest early childhood memories include renting Super Nintendo games from a Family Video store.
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>>475 (OP) 
It's odd... on one hand, what we have now, especially if you consider the ease of piracy aswell, is essentially my childhood dream, and yet, now that I have it, I yearn for what I once had, at a time where I longed for what I have now... is the human being just impossible to please? Is it just nostalgia? I'm not sure, but perhaps I simply overestimated how good having infinite choices was, and the limitations made something like a single choice for a weekend feel like the most special thing, anyways I do miss them.

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You realize that you're an internet oldfag when: 

>You've been registered at old sites and forums with old local emails you don't use anymore and probably they don't even exist.
>You have saved images at BMP. format
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>>4814
>2012
ahem not retro :^)
My email account is from like 2002
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>>4814
>>4816
Mine's from 98, Yahoo.
>>4814
I believe its from 2008, I forgot any older ones.
>>4816
I made my gmail acct when it was in beta, I'm guessing that was ~2004, off the top of my head?
>>4105
In my case, I got locked out of the account because I didn't give them my number.
Next time, I'll try to give them another throwaway email to confirm.

>>4132
Same. Fuck microsoft.

>>4814
Weeb and scanlation forums from '08, 09
They're dead but some are still online, I visit them occasionally like graveyards

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I really like this board and I like the stuff on it; but I feel like I instinctively cringe and avoid it at the same time.  Whenever I indulge in retro games, aesthetics, etc. I have this guilty feeling.  I think I have this feeling because maybe I get the sense I'm stuck in the past and I'm not able to move on to new experiences, interests, and learn new things.  I battle with whether I honestly think that certain aspects of retro tech, games, culture, aesthetics were actually better and I am acting as an archeologist who is working to point out and maintain those most useful elements for the future, or whether this is all just self-indulgent nostalgia and my time would be better spent willfully ignoring it and moving on.
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>>4513
>driving a 23 year old car
What's wrong about this one. Cars from 90's and 00's are about the best ones, having just the right amount of electronics and tech while still being quite repairable.
I'm not sure. I will always like things that are old compared to the present moment because that's what shakes out of all the torrents of trash. In twenty years we will still be here pining for what we don't yet know was gold in 2025. I look up psytrance music that was made before I was born because all modern psytrance sounds exactly the same and surprisingly often has Rick and Morty voice samples, which I find obnoxious.
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>>4651
I have never had the misfortune to encounter such samples. How do they even use it?
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>>4670
How should I explain it to you? They're cringy voice clips of Rick talking and burping interspersed throughout the FL Studio default percussion presets. They've been in every non-Goa psytrance mix I've loaded up since 2020, so I just turn it off and see what 90's Israeli psy is worth listening to that I haven't heard already.
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>>4494 (OP) 
1. If you enjoy older things, that doesn't stop you from enjoying modern ones too, even if less.

2. A lot of times the older alternative is the cheapest, with things like emulation of retro video games, in this economy it's not a bad thing to prefer older things that are cheaper and/or you already own.

3. It's natural to prefer things we're already familiar with due to the sense of safety we get from it.

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