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Wanna watch some /retro/ TV? Check out https://www.my00stv.com/

RULES

BUNKER


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Hey check out the Y2K Community over at Agora Road 
https://forum.agoraroad.com/
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Too bad. We could do with some more comfy sites.
>>1344
That sucks. He's made a similar post but with a different description and image, so I figured it was a real person. I figured it was a decent site because of that.
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>>1320
Hello, I need the captcha due to bots spamming up the site and the ads are to upkeep the forum. Also the date of birth thing idk about that. Its just the default registration fields that the software has.
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>>1452
So it's your site? Does that mean there's no bot involved?
>>1452
>hello i'm a shill not a bot
Go back to reddit

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What were BBSs like outside the West? I'm talking Japan, the USSR, etc. Japan had NEC PC-88s and 98s, what BBS software did they have? I imagine getting kanji to work on them must have been difficult. And the USSR had ZX Spectrum clones. Did these ever manage to get "online" at all?
 
t. Zoomer, thanks for any info
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>>234 
>Japanese software still uses SJIS nowadays like it did in the 90s. 
>Look it up if you don't know what it is. 
I know, I mean about how I imagine the lines of text early Japanese computers could display for kanji were probably not a lot and made things difficult.
>Also the current imageboard interface we use in the west derives from Japanese BBSs. 
You mean textboards, I'm talking about traditional BBSs.
>The west was more focused on Usenet and forums rather than BBSs. 
Asking about the 80s and early 90s though.
Japanese computers were specifically made to handle kanji and had higher resolutions than contemporary western computers, so there wasn't really any issue with kanji support. The higher resolution and larger color counts led to something known as CG (computer graphics) back then (now just called イラスト / illustrations since CG now usually refers to 3D graphics). It ranged from 8 color CG in the late 80s, to 16 and 256 color CG in the 90s and near the turn of the century 16 million colors were introduced.
 
Sharing CG on BBSs was really popular during the 90s and a lot of prominent BBSs even had their own custom advertisement CG. 16 color art dominated since the PC-98 was the most popular system in Japan during that era and it lend itself well to the anime art style. They also shared FM and midi music on BBSs, but CG was more popular. Other than that they used BBSs similarly to the west and shared files and talked about various things.
 
With the advent of the Internet, many CG artists created their own websites for their CG and a forum called NiftyServe gained a lot of popularity and BBSs started to lose their significance. A lot of CG artists had a really hard time to transition from 16 colors to 16 million colors and quit, but some artists like Wakachan and Goto-P are still active to this day.
 
As for what software they used, I can't give much information as it doesn't interest me much, but they did use their own software specific to Japanese computers. Some of it might b
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>>238 
Thank you for the info.
 
Now, for anyone else who might know, what about ZX Spectrum clones in the USSR?
>>238
Correction - NiftyServe was a popular commercial BBS service, but there was also a web based forum version. Both were closed down in the mid 2000s though.
I know that most popular BBSes were run by telephone companies,  and were analogous to modern "chinese superapps" or do-all social networking sites like Facebook or VK, in a sense, not only you could use the bullet-in board forums or send email to other phone company subscribers, but also access banking services, post dating/sale ads, look at address catalogs. Prestel in Britain, Minitel in France, CompuServe in USA, some analogs in Canada and Sweden, canadian one had special markup that allowed vector graphics, it was also used in some information terminals like ATMs. Minitel had some sort of BBS-hosting where businesses could have a dedicated phone number with their BBS hosted at phone company locations.
Local hobbyist-run BBSes were made possible due to free calling for certain city areas, AFAIK, in United States, or because every user knew phreaking and could get free calls from anywhere. Fido nodes exchanged inter-city echomail over nights when calling fees were much lower than during day. Later Fido client software also allowed downloading mail for offline reading, and terminating the connection to save money and free the phone line. Something most modern forum systems severely lack, due to them being webshit, asides from email of course.
CompuServe had world's first live chatroom on their BBS in 1980, which predates IRC by 8 years. Not counting UNIX "social" system commands that predate even this one.
IIRC, Eastern Europe didn't get into this computer business until 90
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Augh. So I accidentally the /retro/ files. Here's a thread where you can restore files.
How it works
Dump files that existed before on the board and they will magically get fixed.
File limits?
5 files at a time, 20MB maximum.
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>>845
>apparently the source code of Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows 2003, Xbox OS, and MS-DOS 6 has leaked online.
>This gives me hope that these OS will be revived in the future, either in the form of custom distributions or emulators/virtualizers. Don't waste your time being depressed.
Neat. Wouldn't Microsoft come down hard on anyone doing that? Hopefully someone can come up with something different enough that there'd be no proof they used the original code as a reference.
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>>853
I suppose Microsoft would do that if someone tried recreating their precious Windows 10, but ancient versions like 2000 and XP are most probably not important at all. Hell, nowadays you can find ISOs of them on public websites as opposed to before when they only existed as torrents.
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There's the Chicago95 theme for XFCE.
https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95
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>>897
I used to use that one when I was using Linux.
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>>898
Good taste anons. Thanks for sharing.

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Truly, we have all gathered here to find network spirituality and network unity through the correct praxis, not by using political molecules.

Gather around and let me tell you the secret and story of a world that was once zephyred as the "digital revolution"
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The digital pool may have divided you up until this point, but stick with me and I will tell you the way that you can explore yourself through the use of your most interactive .net media. It's worth the hassle you will go through to obtain liquid consciousness, that will convex around you. 

I will return in a bit.
Cool story bro
> may of
Immersion destroyed.
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Can the jannies please clean up this thread (by deleting it)?
>>819
I see this more often. Is it the new they're?

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I miss video rental stores
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Me too. Everything seemed more special then. While you can find almost anything that your average video store would carry online nowadays, renting a game or a movie felt like a much more significant experience.
Just being able to hold onto something, look at it, manipulate it in your hands is becoming a thing of the past. It's still possible, going for thrift or markets, or small time stores still gives that to you, but the whole rental aspect is sadly and truly dead.
>>477
This.
I miss more when owning your movies/music was the norm, before streaming took over. Sure you can still buy physical CDs/DVDs, but nowadays those get released less and less. Also you have shit like Bluray that will outright refuse to play on certain devices... On the bright side we can now rip music from streaming platforms so I guess that's the next best thing?
I have a Family Video near me that's going strong ever since Blockbuster went bust.
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>>831
The one where I live went out of business recently. It's sad, but I was glad it was able to hang on for so long.

Some of my fondest early childhood memories include renting Super Nintendo games from a Family Video store.

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check out my new album, i remixed a bunch of 8 bit NES music tracks into schizo style

https://finitecell.bandcamp.com/album/villain

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You're invited,
TO THE MOST EXCLUSIVE IMAGEBOARD PARTY OF THE YEAR!
THE SUPERB OWL
Come on over for drinks, snaxxs, and shitposting
See you there!

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Just a reminder that there's (mostly) working AIM revival project right now.
http://iwarg.ddns.net/aim/

There's also one for Yahoo Messenger but it's pretty barebones right now, very few users and doesn't even have Chatrooms.
http://iwarg.ddns.net/ymsg/index.php
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Didn't know about the Yahoo Messenger one, thanks.
There's one for MSN Messenger which currently works with MSN 1-8: https://escargot.log1p.xyz/
Anyone know if there's one for classic ICQ?
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>>342 (OP) 
Interesting, thanks for sharing. I wonder how secure/private will this be?

>>344
I could see myself using this just to see Winks again.
>>344
I use escargot, even if it's just to keep it opening automatically with windows (msn is very light) and the icon in the taskbar. I tested with friends and works pretty fine, but have some major issues: offline messages don't work and, if I'm right, messages aren't saved in the history.
Post your screennames dudes. We could start a /retro/ chatroom later
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>>349
BillSaysHi
I've never used AIM before, was mostly an MSN dude...

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This is copied and pasted from another forum, but, I'd like to start off with it.
 
Here's a timeline of the beginning of the death of retro internet until now:
2004: DARPA's Lifelog project was "cancelled." Facebook came into being soon after.
2004-2012: NSA picked up DARPA's project under the "Total Informational Awareness" project. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/opinion/whos-watching-the-nsa-watchers.html 
2012: Smith-Mundt Modernization Act gives the U.S. government full legal authority to use propaganda against its own populace. Undoing rules put into place after Operation Mockingbird's discovery and the Church Committee. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/opinion/whos-watching-the-nsa-watchers.html 
2012-2016: Shittons of DARPA/NSA contracts were given to Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc..
2016: Leaked memos dating back to 2016 (found in 2018) of Google's Selfish Ledger project. https://invidio.us/watch?v=LUSZfEBTwRc 
2016: Google released a bunch of neural-linguistic machine learning programs in 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Neural_Machine_Translation 
2017: deepfake leaks start to become released.
2018: confirmed that for decades now, Reddit/Youtube/etc. vote and view counts are fake and completely manipulated. http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/how-much-of-the-internet-is-fake.html 
 
In short, the U.S. government is engaging in an artificial intelligence powered gaslighting of the entire world population.
 
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>>307
No need for the full /tech/ autism experience. A user can learn general security and privacy measures without migrating to linux if he chooses not to, and remember that a truly knowledgeable user can operate any OS without compromises.

Using windows is fine as long as you disable telemetry and other spyware by following any of the guides online, and try to avoid using windows 10, any earlier version would be miles better. Install a good firewall and antivirus, buy or pirate a sandbox program like Sandboxie for running suspicious programs in isolation, and opt for using open source programs whenever you can. A good alternative to a sandbox program is a virtualization program such as VirtualBox, you can install a separate Windows version in it, disconnect it from the internet, and use it for running programs.

Avoid using Google or any of its services (Gmail, Drive, Youtube...etc), at least not directly. There are multiple good alternatives to Drive such as MEGA and the Pomf clones, as for Youtube you can access it in a privacy-respecting manner using a service like invidio.us, which delivers Youtube videos but without tracking or ads. You can also use Google search in a similar method through startpage.com. Use temporary email addresses to register on websites that require registration, such as temp-mail.org and 10minutemail.com. Disable cookies in your b
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>>248
I moved the site to an onion address, gave it an upgrade, incorporated all the other webrings I was running, etc.:
lwur3kl63omajev4tnwu52razltyvsfvlsaxtd35g2t23rgkd4oybvid.onion/
Clearnet, simpler version of just the directory over here:
https://websitereview.neocities.org/
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>>310
>neocities
Well done anon, would have appreciated a more accessible design though... A light theme and visible scrollbar would be real nice and maybe a way to disable the custom cursor
>>310
Very nice, I instantly bookmarked this.
>>310
Thank you Anon for reminding me that the mod archive still exist.

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https://monoskop.org/images/d/db/A_and_F_Quarterly_Back_to_School_2003_The_Sex_Ed_Issue.pdf
Holy fuck, nice find,

Been reading Zizek since the early 2000's. Interesting takes, a lot of his comments on marxism and communism I disagree with but his more biological/ethno-technical stuff is awesome.

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