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We need good advice on how to handle our /biz/ related woes and this is the thread to do it.
not anime, get this shit outta here.
I wonder why previous thread disappeared at around the time bitcoin crashed.
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>>60726
Because it hit bump limit, a well-known feature of imageboards such as this, and slowly made its way down the catalog to its current position on page 10. I suppose to those too dumb or lazy to look for it, that would seem like "disappearing".
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>>60727
There's still a ton of retards using imageboards who have no idea what a "catalog" is or where it's located.
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>>60728
I will never understand what goes through the mind of someone who uses a site but doesn't explore every one of its features.
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>>60729
Some people don't feel the need to bother with the small shit
Catalog use is an essential function though
catalogs were a mistake and you know it
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>>60732
Spoken like a true front page beggar.
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Did you guys pick up calls a few weeks back when we hit the local bottom? 
>tfw 7x up on them
It was tough to decide to hold them over the weekend though, since the market fundamentals are shaky, and they're now worth a lot of money and have high delta. I want to get another percent out of the underlying index before I sell.
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Archive of the previous /biz/ thread: https://archive.md/vFr9R
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Anyone got the name of this trading manga?
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I don't spend enough time watching stocks since I'm busy with a bunch of things. But I feel there's some disconnect

On one hand you got high demand for worker, on the other you have high unemployment, and at the same time there's a supply chain problem.
Yet the market seems to grow?

Unless it's also part of inflation.
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>>60746
Some other smart-seeming anon postulated that the stock market has become the most recent basis for our fiat debt-based currency since previous things like the real estate market was too volatile and crashed. Because of this the market grows with inflation now, yes, and also because it exists as a money moving system outside of profits. Obviously this can't backfire like every other thing - this time will be different!
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>>60744
Thanks anon I forgot to archive the other thread. >>60745
FX Senshi Kurumi-chan
>>60747
I don't understand why the market moving with inflation is surprising to anyone.
>more currency
>devalued currency
>goods and services cost increase due to maintaining pre-inflation value
>people trade similar value rates to pre-inflation
>those with actual wealth are tossing money into the market in hopes of maintaining their wealth

If the market tanks it won't be from inflation, it'll be from the wealthy pulling out to invest in other methods of maintaining or growing their wealth, then the bagholders will panic sell.
At least that's how it appears to me, but I'm a broke NEET so what do I know?
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Is it worth going into precious metals investing like silver and gold? 
I had the opportunity to buy silver for 15$ an ounce back when it was relatively cheap and I didnt because I didnt understand much about the market. 
I might start stacking once the market cools off because it was 20$ an ounce a month ago at spot but premiums were like 10$ because of demand so I didnt buy (A 10oz silver bar that should have been  worth ~200 was 280 PRESALE because of fucking premiums even though bars are supposed to have less premiums than coins and now its 310). 
Also I dont like shitcoins now that normalniggers and globohomo has its eyes on it and prefer boomer rocks.
Never invested before I have no idea what Im talking about nor if I should even bother
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>>60746
The simplest answer is "the stock market is not the economy."
So some mom and pop restaurant not being able to hire workers isn't reflected in the SnP 500 at all (and the SnP 500 doesn't include small/midcap public companies or foreign companies either.) It's just ~500 American large/megacaps caps." Chinese markets are down this year for good reason, Rusell Midcap 2000 has been flat since February, etc.
"Unemployment" is actually technically not so bad, and people are just shifting out of the labor market entirely, combined with lower than normal levels of importing immigrants and migrant workers due to covid restrictions.
Supply Chain issues are definitely real, but in terms of that all that matters is the companies earnings and projected growth. Some companies like Facebook/Google/JP Morgan probably don't give 2 shits, some like oil companies actually profit from it, others can pass it on to their customers, and others are either already priced in or will get rude awakenings during their next earnings calls.
Some analysts have commented that SnP 500 prices have correlated with earnings growth over the past year, but I find that a weak argument for current prices since that's completely ignoring last year where everything had shit earnings but still went up. Noone knows when, but eventually things will correct to more normal P/E ratios.
In terms of inflation, inflation itself isn't necessarily bad for markets, and it all depends on the specifics. Imagine you sold 1 million hamburgers for $1 each with $.50 cost for ingredients/labor. Due to inflation, ingredient/labor cost rises to $1. If you can still sell 1 million at $2, you doubled your profit. But if the inflated prices cause people to buy less, if you literally can't get enough burgers to sell, or if you aren't able to raise prices, you get fucked. Arguably you could say inflation will cause consumers to have less money down the line and cause a recession later on, but noone is thinking about that right now.
The all "noone knows when bad things are gonna happen" combined with incredibly low Treasury Yields/Interest Rates during an inflationary period means that no-one wants to throw their money in bonds or fixed income because you'd literally have to be a retard to buy such negative yielding long-term instruments. Even if we crash 50% 5 years from now, the stock market will still have beat sub 2% 10-30 year bonds by the time they hit maturity. Same thing with real estate. 2.5% mortgages are basically free money if you're rich, so prices get stretched to the breaking point where even if you get suboptimal growth or a short term dip, there's some long-term benefit at all. And its gotten to the point where people will throw money at literally anything from MTG cards to shitcoins because valuations for everything else are so stretched.
There's also stuff like currency exchange rates, global interest rates, and where foreign investors are parking their money, but I don't follow foreign markets as much as I should.

>>60742
Was too pussy to buy calls, but sold vix/vxx call spreads late september, then switched to selling spx spreads in early october. Personally I don't think options are the best way to be long right now since we're pushing ATH, going into earnings season, and most of the better technical indicators suggest high resistance to the upside around these levels for the next few weeks. Fighting a losing battle against time even if we do go up. (Premium collecting isn't really worth it either rn with VIX sitting at 15ish). If I wanted to be long right now i'd either hold SPY, SPXL, or ES futures (or the NQ equivalents) depending on how levered I'd want to be, since you already got the free money out of them and wouldn't have to fight against time anymore. But good luck on them anyway.

>>60745
https://nyaa.si/?f=0&c=0_0&q=fx+senshi+kurumi-chan+
>>60766
I don't really like metals (or crypto) much since they're a non-productive asset AND they don't even usually move much in line with inflation (notice how it ended up flat 2008-2019 despite prices doubling for everything), but it couldn't hurt to put a few percent of your money into it.

Even though we're kinda in a bubble, i'd still go like 60% stocks, maybe 1% silver, 1% gold, 1% btc, 1% eth. Rest in real estate/cash/bonds.

Right now I'm mostly tempted to long Crude Oil futures till 90-100ish and hope OPEC+ doesn't suddenly ramp up production before then.
Also speaking of holos and collectibles, I kinda want to buy a few sealed boxes of Weiss Schwarz and throw them in with my figs. I don't really have faith in the collectibles market, but if it tanks I enjoy CCGs anyway.

https://en.ws-tcg.com/information/2021-22-weiss-schwarz-new-titles/
>Video ads are now talking about Bitcoin trading
Am I the only one who doesn't want to invest in cryptocurrencies because of the sole fact that they are not backed by anything except the hopes and dreams of suckers? Even farming gold in MMOs is more tangible as you can actually do something with it.
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Nope.
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>>60773
sage isn't a downvote
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What's this talk of buying Sliver?
>>60774
london is the capital of britain
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>>60771
Crypto is generally at the point where investing in it is not worth it because of the more intense pressure from normalfags and governments as >>60766 pointed out. The moment laws are passed that can in some capacity regulate it, then you lose one of the main reasons people have been advocating them for the past 10 years. I'd go so far to say that even if you still trust crypto despite the current situation, you should expect to sell off most of it within a year or two. Granted I'm talking out of my ass with most of this, so just go with what you believe is right at the moment.
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>>60886
>you should expect to sell off most of it within a year or two.
To get them back into useless fiat dollars that are going to be worthless in the near future?
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>>60892
No, then you turn around and immediately use that money you gained to buy something of actual value. There's a reason why the wealthy have the overwhelming majority of their wealth tide up in assets and possessions. Not something they have on hand.
Not really into biz, crypto, or stocks, but some guy i have to deal with often keeps saying Soros has been buying Bitcoins for months and is planning a speculative attack like the one he did in 1993 agains the bank of England.
Thoughts on Crypto tax?
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>>61820
Good luck taxing my XMR, statist fags.
>>61820
taxation is theft
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>>61844
>Infinite taxation without rhyme or reason is theft
Fixed
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>>61850
I SAID TAXATION IS THEFT!
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Reminder read Spice and wolf.
If I do get meme coins how would I invest?
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>>63674
1776coin.com
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Don't really feel like talking about stonks so dumping FX-senshi kurumi ch 9+10.
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I actually had some pretty bad losses in the past 2 months. Didn't turn around into a profit like her trades did. Still up over well over 100% in 2021 but a losing streak makes you start questioning things, and starting off January on a bad note is rough especially when you know the taxman is gonna rape you based on last year's gains.
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That said I'm probably just as addicted to trading as she is. Made a few good plays this week and working back toward ATH. Gonna end up with 8 figures or 0 one of these days I imagine. Just gotta be careful with the wild fed policy and weird shit going on in the options markets.
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Hope you enjoyed the dogshit 4chan memesubs.
Stay safe out there.
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>>65219
/biz/ you alive?
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>>70396
I know the economy isn't.
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GASOLINE PRICES SKYROCKETING
SUPPLY CHAINS ARE FUCKED
PEOPLE ARE FUCKING STARVING ALREADY
AND THAT'S A GOOD THING
/biz/ how the fuck do I save with the government raping my wallet?
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>only get $18/hr
>basically jack shit wage with inflation
>also have mortgage
>haven't cut back on food or electricity use
>still gaining money every month
Apparently I am extremely frugal. Still retarded though otherwise I'd have a much higher salary at a much easier job.
Should I buy silver/gold or stonks with my next round of spending money?
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>>70936
>>70939
Buy some (pricy) gallons of diesel (if there's any of it left, that is) with the little money you have left and go to your local municipal hall/parliament to express your worries and arguments in a civilized and democratic way, I'm sure they will listen to you whether they want or not. It's better if a lot people are working inside aforementioned buildings, so all of them can hear you, this why it's important to choose the right day. Don't forget the lighter.
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TUMBLING DOWN
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>>71179
Should have invested in NTR :^)
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>>70396
Been a rough year but finally things are starting to look ok
>took massive losses in jan thinking the pullback wouldn't come till later in the year
>things started getting better in feb but got fucked by being long when FB destroyed everyone's confidence in the market
>basically living off oil dividends since I don't want to sell any tech shit while the market is crashing
>perfectly timed the bottom and top in March, finally hit breakeven mid March and ended up proftiable End of Quarter thanks to nailing the 4530 March 31st close.
>starting off April profitable and no longer making emotional trades, now up about 10% on the year even when 20% of my portfolio is basically QQQ.
>Taxes raped me but at least they're out of the way
Now even on days like today where NFLX is down almost 40% in a single day I'm just wrapped in comfy blankets buying the dip indexes for my IRA with my profits from scalping futures/options.
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>>70939
On a long enough timeframe I'd always prefer VTI/VT/VTSAX/SPY/VOO/QQQ over metals.
Generally speaking, companies produce added value to the economy that compound over time, while 1 bar of gold is always worth 1 bar of gold.
There's times where the market gets valuations wrong, but I'd rather hold $1,000 of XLE longterm than $1,000 of oil.
>>72234
how do I learn how to make mad dough off investments? I have money to play with
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Also a few predictions, some more bold than others:
-My opinion has always been that the market should bottom this year roughly around the monthly March OPEX / first Fed rate hike. While not exact, that was a pretty good time to buy and I think SPX/NDX have both seen their bottoms for the year, and should grind up even if it is a rough and choppy ride.
-obviously predicting EOY targets is just pulling numbers out of your ass, but I'm expecting SPX 5000 by the end of the year. Only about 5% YoY from Jan 1st, but around 20% from the bottom and a bit over 10% from where we are now.
-While earnings seasons may complicate things, I think the low for the next month was also put in. Anything under 4400 is a buy in my book.
-While NDX will probably underperform in the short term, tech will always be where growth comes from in the long term. Innovation "solves" inflation and even during recessions technological progress moves on no matter how many big macs we can afford.
-That said, I think any recession will probably be mild, unless the fed *completely* fucks things up. Economic growth is likely to slow in the short term as the excess demand from Corona ending, but millenials and zoomers are now taking the jobs that boomers retired from, and still have things they need to buy.
-My boldest prediction is that inflation has peaked, and that we'll see $60/barrel oil in the next 5 years. I don't think biden's response helps, but eventually the Russia/Ukraine situation will end, Shanghai lockdowns will end, and supply chain issues will normalize, possibly even causing a period of deflation, especially combined with the recession everyone is predicting. Combine this with a likely GOP 2022 congress win and 2024 presidential win, they'll be much more likely to support favorable legislation for local drilling, which will put heavy downward pressure on oil/gas markets and force Russia/OPEC back into price wars like they were in 2018. Gradual adoption of EVs should also send oil prices down but electricity prices up.
That said, the baseline will still be higher, and I think for now we should be treating 100 as normal until there's a big political shift, then we can start looking at the 60-80 range again.
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>>72236
Depends on the time you're willing to invest, the timeframe, and the money you have.
The simple answer is just:
>buy VTI with your leftovers from every paycheck
>buy more whenever the market dips 5%+
>don't touch it for 10 years
>now you probably earned 7-15% per year unless we're at the beginning of a 1980s Japan style recession
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but then if you're Nancy Pelosi you can just buy leaps in big tech companies and have everyone assume you're insider trading (which is probably true, but she could just buy SPY leaps every january instead and do almost as well.)
>>72238
I can do like, 10 hours of reading a week because of my job and other stuff I've got going on. Is that reasonable? What is a VTI?
>now you probably earned 7-15% per year unless we're at the beginning of a 1980s Japan style recession
I have some crypto to cover for that
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That said there's a lot of things you can use to predict market behavior on a shorter timeframe. Everyone has their own favorite methods, but from my experience looking at orderflow or heavily traded options are the most reliable. ThinkorSwim (TDAmeritrade) will give you a free "trial" version of Bookmap if you ask, which gives a good visual representation of resting orders and other things like CVD. TDA has prohibitively high fees if you are a futures trader though, so a lot of people use ToS for its features but trade with another broker.
For options https://maximum-pain.com/options/spxw and https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/$SPX/technical-analysis are good starts if you don't want to compile your own data. Things like the 20/50/200 day moving average are usually areas the market will try to test, especially if they're close, and heavily traded option strikes often act as brackets and/or magnets for the day. Looking at correlated markets like the nasdaq (or even sometimes just AAPL) can also give insight as to where the market is going. Today is pretty uneventful in terms of the SnP, but options would suggest 4500 and 4535 would be difficult to break on the upside, with 4400 fairly strong on the downside. These are less relevant on M/W expirations than Friday ones and much less so than monthly or quarterly ones.
You obviously still have to pay attention to big economic events like Fed Speakers or when megacap companies like FB/MSFT/AAPL/AMZN/GOOG report earnings, but often times the market just uses them as a catalyst to head to a level it already wanted to.
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>>72241
any books or sites I should read?
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>>72240
https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VTI
its basically just, a market-cap weighted ETF of American stocks with a very low management fee. Almost identical to just buying the SnP500, but it has some diversification with small/mid caps. If you want to stay large cap only, there's VOO/SPY, which are identical but the vanguard version has only a .03% management fee (but less options liquidity).
>10 hours of reading a week
probably not enough for daytrading but plenty for longer timeframe setups. I don't really like thinking more than a few hours ahead in this market, but doing defined risk trades with SPX credit/debit spreads or low-leverage swing trading on futures might work out fine.
Or you can just be a "buy and hold" type person and dump money into indexes and profitable companies and come back when they inevitably go up. Before I learned much the market I just bought companies I thought would do well like AAPL and NTDOY and it worked out in the end. But stock picking is hard and you still woulda basically 4x'ed your money if you just put everything into SPY/VOO/VTI in 2010.
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And this is the end of Chapter 11. Chapter 13 just got released so i'm a bit behind, but I'll post 12-13 another day.
>>72243
its really hard to say since everything i learned is a hodgepodge of stuff from 1000s of different sources, everywhere from twitter/reddit/discord to looking at news sites or data trackers. I already came from a strong math background (so stuff like options greeks naturally make sense to me) and am good at things like board games (you'd be surprised that this matters but I think it does), but also a lot I learned is just from experience, and finding smart people to learn from if there's some specific market I'm trying to learn more about.
>>72244
I made like 12k from 30k in investments in a period of a year and a half a couple years back but I've been out of the game for a long time now and I didn't have a defined strategy back then, I just bought stuff that made sense to me and resold when I made profit, it worked but I feel like I just got lucky. Plus about half my profits came from when I bought the dip in march 2020 when the scamdemic shut everything down and that was just free money obviously
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>>72246
yeah i mean if you bought SPY in march 2020 and sold in November 2021 you basically doubled your money. Normally that takes like 5-10 years on average if you were to buy on any given year.
But buying market crashes when everyone is panicking is usually a pretty good strategy if you have spare money on hand.
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>>72246
>>72247
I don't know dick-all about finance, but I bought CNQ.TO during the 2020 crash for no higher reasoning than "oil=profit", and now it's gone from C$15 to nearly C$90, so at least that worked. I wish I'd had more than a couple hundred bucks to spare at the time though.
Would you buy one alphabet share right now? It's pretty expensive to drop that much on one stock though. Don't worry, even if I lost all the money I won't blame you for it. I'll blame myself for listening to internet anons
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What do you think will happen to Japan with the hyper-inflation that's about to hit it?
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>>73354
Nothing fucking good the Yen is already fucked right now.
>>73354
Hopefully the nips learn their main export could be entertainment much in the same way Hollywood was a huge entertainment export for the USA at one point. But for that to happen, nips would need to translate their games and learn how to code their websites.
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>>73361
With the way technology is now. They could hire people and work from afar. There must be tons of tech literate people in Europe and Asia willing code software for Japan. As for translations. At this point, a machine translation with 2 guys doing QA would be much better than what the west has been doing for ages. Practically or literally writing their script.
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>>60732
Back in my day we put noko in the email field.

>newfags don't know about noko
>>73361
>please expose yourselves to more western pozz via ((( trans )))lations, go-i mean nips! gotta update those sites of yours too!
kill yourself kike
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IT KEEPS HAPPENING

TUMBLING THE FUCK DOWN
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>>72291
buy it now
or just buy the index
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>>73400
It would be a fitting end for the nightmare of a world that we currently live in.
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So... What are you people buying during these crazy times, it seems like not even tobacco is safe.
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>>73422
Well I was about to buy some fumos but luckily the amiami website prevented me from doing so, so my budget for the month free'd up by around 200 dollarydoos. 

Did any anons here invest in a water distiller? I've got a pretty nice one I can recommend. If anyone wants the brand name, let me know. I can show you the exact model.
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Are they overpriced?
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>>73466
>Did the conversion
>It's only $5000
WTF, those lolis are cheaper than a new car.
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>>73467
That's less than a shitty used car in the current year. I feel really bad for the lolis and want to take them to a loving family who will raise them properly and be their Uncle Anon who plays Frisbee and gives them good taste in anime.
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>>73466
Why is one loli cheaper than the other ones? Aren't all lolis worth the same? Other than your precious daughteru, because she's all yours and she has no value.
>>73533
Anon, that's so sweet.
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>>73546
The one on the left has cat ears.
Maybe that's why.
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>>73548
Nigga, cats aren't that expensive at all, all the cats that I've owned I found just walking around my neighborhood.
>>73546
The catgirl knows how to read and write. The other doesn't.
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>>73570
Can she do that nip thing where they write with a brush stuck up their ass?
If no then it's a no-sell.
i've lost everything
overleveraged
made bad trades
blew up
it hurts
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Plotkin’s Melvin Capital to Liquidate Funds After Losses
>Gabe Plotkin plans to wind down Melvin Capital Management after suffering billions of dollars of losses and angering investors with a botched plan to reboot the firm.
>The once high-flying hedge fund told clients it would liquidate the funds and return cash to investors. The New York-based firm managed $7.8 billion at the end of April.
>[...]
>Plotkin became the target of a retail trading army in 2021 that used Reddit to bid up stocks, specifically GameStop, a struggling bricks-and-mortar retailer, which was one of Melvin’s bearish bets. 
>When the stock took off-- along with other shares Melvin was shorting -- it erased about $7 billion of the hedge fund’s capital in January 2021, a path it never recovered from.
Source: https://archive.is/ORc4S
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Is this the best time to import shit from japan or should I wait for the yen to devalue more?
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>>74767
Shit's only going to get worse, if you want something it's probably better to buy what you want now.
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>>74767
Do what you must now, true economic-market armageddon will start in September/October, what you're seeing now is just the prelude.
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>>73986
I still remember the damage control even months later saying that the ((( banks ))) and ((( investment firms ))) were barely affected. Good to see them crumbling.

>>74777
lucky 7s don't lie
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If you don't stock on food right now, you're going to have a bad time.
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Where do you guys go to learn about economics and investing.There's investopedia but are there any other sites or communities as well?(other than this thread that is)
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>>74877
Get into permaculture, faggot.
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>>74896
Start off by reading/listening to The Basics of Economics by Thomas Sowell. It will make sense of how the economy works. Especially the way the government and people react to various things. If you know how people will react to things under certain conditions, you can play around the market much more smoothly. Most of the examples he gives he links back to moments in history as proof of his foundation. The audio book is uploaded to Youtube if you want it for free.

For example, normally people would be marketing into tech right now. But because the governments of the world jumped on the WEF bug eating agenda to make everyone more poor. You would realize that commodities will become much more important as everyone has less money to play with and massive inflation rates basically influence everyone to not splurge money on tech. So you would have invested into commodities back in mid 2020 and fuel/fertilizer in 2021 when the Environmentalist induced energy crisis spread all across EU late last year. 

Once US and EU waged sanctions against Russia, who most of the EU and US are getting their fuel/fertilizer from, then you can expect a large demand of that in the future because the supply was immediately cut due to government regulation. Especially when the US refuses to mine for more fuel under Biden and the EU shut down all their nuclear power plants besides Germany (and I think France?). Now Europeans are fucked when winter comes around, so they will definitely be buying this stuff up as soon as it starts getting cold which should be around Autumn.

Things like that are what you learn with the Basics of Economics. It's less learning about how money works (which you will learn) and more about how humans work under certain stimuli. Once you understand how humans react under certain conditions, the consequences or certain government actions, and the way money works. Things will make way more sense. Especially when you understand the incentives the media tries to influence by saying certain things. Are they playing damage control for the government (like under the Biden admin)? Are they looking out for their own skin? Is the government giving them orders to tell the masses that the inflation is "transitory" (obviously not the case when you print 20+ trillion dollars in 2 years) to keep the masses and business operating as usual to try and sooth the gaping hole you've made in the value of the dollar? Is the petrodollar collapsing because the rest of Asia saw the US and EU force banks into cutting off nation's businesses and citizens accounts over Ukraine? (https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-a-petrodollar-3306358)

Economics isn't that complicated but no one actually teaches it. Thankfully, you can learn it yourself online. Link below is the audiobook posted on Youtube in opus form to save space. File posted is the PDF and the second link below is the same but in EPUB.
>Thomas Sowell Audible Audio Edition Basic Economics.opus
https://anonfiles.com/h470V7l2y2/Thomas_Sowell_Audible_Audio_Edition_Basic_Economics_opus
>Sowell, Thomas - Basic Economics - 5th Edition (2014).epub
https://anonfiles.com/p29bV6l0y9/Sowell_Thomas_-_Basic_Economics_-_5th_Edition_2014_Basic_Books_9780465056842_epub
>>74904
>Especially when the US refuses to mine for more fuel under Biden and the EU shut down all their nuclear power plants besides Germany (and I think France?). Now Europeans are fucked when winter comes around, so they will definitely be buying this stuff up as soon as it starts getting cold which should be around Autumn.
Correction, it's France not Germany who has the most Nuclear reactors. France is so successful in fact that they got contracted with the Chinese to help them build their own china-brand Nuclear Reactors and so good at building one that they saw through the Chink bullshit of a possible safety violation / leak at the Taishan NPP last year. Germany meanwhile has been actively gutting their own nuclear power in the name of 'climate change' for 'Renewable energy' while at the same times suckling on Russia's gas teats for the past decade.
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>>74913
Thanks for the correction. EU civilians are going to have a horrible wakeup call this winter. When you have no fuel to keep you warm during freezing nights. You quickly go from "We are a civilized people who get things done through the voting system" to "My kids and I are about to die from freezing with no fuel and the bastards in charge are complaining about incels and internet terrorists while pretending we're not freezing our ass off. I'm going to kill them." Especially if people are starving too due to the lack of fertilizer and horrible inflation. The farmers have already missed their crop rotation thanks to the EU's sanctions against Russia. But that's what it takes for the masses to actually get involved and pay attention to life threatening consequences from their corrupt government. I mean, most of the world is understanding this.
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>>74915
>You quickly go from "We are a civilized people who get things done through the voting system" to "My kids and I are about to die from freezing with no fuel and the bastards in charge are complaining about incels and internet terrorists while pretending we're not freezing our ass off. I'm going to kill them.
I wonder how long the Ukie and Russki slapfight will distract the EU populace after they realize that they haven't even reached the 'Marshall Plan' part of the Ukie equation. God, imagine how much strain would that even put on the economy if they enact it, which they will because they're the EU. They're already reaching the breaking point as it is, who knows what will happen once the fighting's over.
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>>74915
>I'm going to kill them.
I will believe it, when I see it.
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>>74954
The globalists are boiling the frog too fast and they didn't expect Russia to just push back. At this rate, with all the brain drain going on and the west falling to cultural marxism. I think Asia will be the future. Especially if the Chinese can remove their fascist leaders and open up the market again.

That aside, how long until the government starts implementing price controls? We all know they will do it soon to try and fool the masses but the consequences of price controls will make people even more pissed.

>>74956
It's not the first time in history, but I understand your doubts. Through most of history in general, people just laid back and took the beatings hoping someone, anyone would do something besides them. Anyone who would be a potential leader was rounded up and imprisoned too. It's only the past century have we had tons of uprisings and it's mainly because of socialism/communism. Whether it be the initial uprising overthrowing the government to implement it or the one decades after to remove the communist government.
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>>74962
>holy shit western commies BTFO by based russia being a selfless saviour, now we just need based china to join!
See, I get being against the former, but I don't get being a useful idiot for the latter two.
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>>74969
No need to exaggerate things. I'm not for/against either, just brainstorming what could be. If Russia, India, and China actually get their shit together they can be something promising in the future. While the west isn't doomed, it has completely hampered its self with progressive laws stifling competition, welfare taking countries like America off the gold standard, relying on central banking and quantitative easing to ignore any form of the government managing budget, avoiding nuclear energy, and now the dollar as the world's reserved currency is at risk because many countries now realize the USA is actually willing to force banks to stop doing business with whole countries for whatever reason. They've weakened themselves to the point where Asia can actually surpass them if they play their cards right.
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>>74962
>Especially if the Chinese can remove their fascist leaders and open up the market again.
Anon, you have two options when it comes to China:
<1. You're going to deal with a corrupt Chinese bureaucracy as everything is controlled by the CCP, who's going to steal all the wealth, the resources, and the technology from every other country on the planet and leave it all as a barren wasteland except for their own nation (IOW, what they're already doing now)
OR...
<2. You deal with a balkanized China in the middle of a civil war as the CCP is going to ensure that if they cannot control West Taiwan, then no one else ever will as they salt the Earth while on their deathbed
>>74975
>If Russia, India, and China actually get their shit together they can be something promising in the future.
Russia is the still USSR in everything but name and populace freedom, India is just as likely to become the next superpower as Brazil, and China is on the verge of collapsing because of their "zero Corona-chan" policy that's even effecting the people who "shouldn't" be effected by a cold that only effects the revolting peasants of the country.
>>74904
Alright, I'll be sure to read that then. Thanks for the recommendation!
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>>74901
>cityfags
>permaculture
How many of you actually do your own taxes? If so, where did you learn it from?
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>Stimulus Update: Will Another Payment Help Americans Cope With Rising Gas Prices? [June 15, 2022]
https://archive.ph/4nrHZ
>Government to spend 6.2 trillion yen to combat rising prices [April 27, 2022]
https://archive.ph/XbwXF
>Japan to compile fresh stimulus package to cushion fuel blow, PM says [March 23, 2022]
https://archive.ph/wip/IIKBA

Country leaders around the world are suggesting printing MORE money in the form of stimulus checks to help people deal with the rising gas prices. Paying off figurines is going to become a lot more difficult very soon.

>>75025
One thing you should know about Thomas Sowell is which school of economics he resides under. The Chicago school and Austrian school are both right, but for different reasons. The reason why it's important to understand these is because you want to know what the economy in a certain sector or area will be influenced with/without government influence. If you know how the economy will be influenced under certain government incentives, you can be a little be more flexible with your investments.

>Economics: The Austrian School VS The Chicago school
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5Kx6-nyVkk
https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=s5Kx6-nyVkk
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>>74915
>EU civilians are going to have a horrible wakeup call this winter
Sure, just like how they had a horrible wakeup call when millions of murderers and rapists were imported into their countries or when the government threatened to take their livelihoods away if they didn't take their experimental vaccine. Or when they started beating up everyone who dared to protest said threats 1984-style for everyone to see. 

There are people who lost their kids to the covid vaccines and what did they do? Absolutely nothing except maybe complain a bit online. At this point, they can shoot people's kids right in front of their eyes and they'll still try to vote their way out of it or whatever.
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>>75930
You can avoid a lot of that shit by moving away from the city. However gas/fuel shortages effects everyone regardless of location.

>At this point, they can shoot people's kids right in front of their eyes and they'll still try to vote their way out of it or whatever.
The masses aren't ready to violently overthrow their government until they are practically no other options for them. Even then that's not always the case. Some will just sit there and wait to be executed along with everyone else.
>>75930
>At this point, they can shoot people's kids right in front of their eyes and they'll still try to vote their way out of it or whatever.
Already literally happened in Uvalde, where cops openly aided and abetted a mass shooting. Then they say "Oops! We spent 77 minutes ignoring roomfuls of children begging for their lives, and actively protected a mass shooter from everyone trying to stop him, by accident" and normalfags actually fucking believe it, and blame guns.
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>>75947
Yeah, normalfags are zooming into the gun thing because the media is herding them that way, but the greatest issue in that case is that the police were not only completely ineffective, but even actively hindered attempts at rescuing the children. 

If anything this proves that you can't rely on police to do jack shit and everyone in America should get a gun.
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>>75925
>Paying off figurines is going to become a lot more difficult very soon.
A lot more easy, more like. Unless you got an inflation-adjusted loan, in which case, good luck selling your organs.
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>>75950
Ever since BLM went apeshit across America from 2020-2021, gun purchases have been up over 300% since 2020 and it hasn't slowed down. At the end of the day, people are realizing that they need to defend themselves and the police won't do it for them.

>>75952
I meant how much money I will have to play with through the inflationary recession. Also some fig companies like Freeing are adjusting for inflation. Their newest Senran Kagura figurine went up $100 in price. We'll see if that works out for them.
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>>75950
From an European perspective, Americans who want more gun control seem like some of the most retarded people on the planet. If a mass-shooting happens in Europe (like in Paris in 2015), people are pretty much live targets. There's absolutely nothing they can do to defend themselves. All that gun control accomplishes is that it makes criminals and the state more powerful. Why do normalfags get off on being powerless so much?
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>>75977
You don't even have to use shooting. The biggest murder spree someone went on was a guy running a ton of people over with a truck and a guy mowing through a crowd with a machete like it's Dynasty Warriors. Both could be prevented or minimized with a gun.

>Why do normalfags get off on being powerless so much?
They fear guns and project that fear onto others. "You MUST want to kill someone with that murder weapon! Why else would you need one?" However they trust the government with that power assuming that the government will or must be held back from using said power. However they don't realize how power dynamics work. So the government, when filled with people who don't have their citizen's best interest in mind, will walk all over them knowing they don't have the power to push back.
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>>75978
>a guy mowing through a crowd with a machete
Which one was that?
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Here's some economic learning material from a beginner to a practical understanding of investing.

If you're an anon who has zero understanding of money in general. Give Dave Ramsey's - The Total Money Makeover a listen/read. It's the most simple economics lesson out there. Because it is made to be as simple as possible though, there is some bad advice for simplicity sake but it's a good introduction into how money works so you can transition into other economic works after.
https://audiobookss.com/the-total-money-makeover-full-audiobook-by-dave-ramsey.html
Economics in One Lesson_ The Shortest and Surest Way to Understand Basic Economics.epub
https://anonfiles.com/hfS1P4rayf/Economics_in_One_Lesson_The_Shortest_and_Surest_Way_to_Understand_Basic_Economics_PDFDrive_epub


For anons who want to learn more about economics, this audiobook is shorter than Thomas Sowell's The Basics of Economics by many hours. Economics in One Lesson is only around 7 hours. Unlike The Basics of Economics, this isn't as dense with historical example to show you why certain economic choices weren't successful. Nor does it go into the economic consequences of social issues as much. For that reason, it is much shorter and easier to digest in a shorter period. 

>Economics in One Lesson audiobook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI8XXANvWgI
>Economics in One Lesson_ The Shortest and Surest Way to Understand Basic Economics.epub
https://anonfiles.com/F7SbP1rbya/Economics_in_One_Lesson_The_Shortest_and_Surest_Way_to_Understand_Basic_Economics_PDFDrive_epub


What about investing? I found this series to be very informative. If you follow these methods you should be getting a steady flow of money just through investing. However if you understand economics thanks to the info above, you can adapt to the market and avoid mistakes normalfags fall for. Once you know what you're doing you won't fall for goyim logic and meme stocks but instead actually learn the way investing works and make yourself enough money to commission art of your waifu for life.
https://tee.fm/monkeynomics-101-investments-series-1-becoming-the-1-time-value-of-money-the-rule-of-72/
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>>76000
Biggest killing spree referring the truck terrorist attack of 2016 Bastille Day on the Promenade des Anglais in Nice, France. 86 people killed and 434 wounded from an Islamic terrorist (ISIS I believe) intentionally driving through a crowd. I can't find an article on the machete attack but there was another example of a Chinese guy killing 30 people and injuring 130 in a train station knife attack. The biggest killing sprees by single people have been done by vehicles, knives, and bombs. 2 of said attacks can be prevented with guns.
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We are reaching levels of chutzpah that shouldn't even be possible.
>>77181
I don't see productive people in the backwater savannah in Africa.
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>>77181
Full dystopian ((( gulag-capitalism ))) mode.
>>77182
That's the only good thing about this, is that tons of fucking niggers, chinks, spics, and pajeets are going to fucking starve and die.
>>77181
read the rest
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>>76379
Great post, anon. See also "The Simple Path to Wealth" by J.L. Collins, it got me into non-retard investing and is available on libgen. Same guy has a series of posts on his blog that the book is based off of.
Keep in mind that he uses Vanguard for every example, it can come off as shilling but he says others like Fidelity work too.
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>>77181
They took it down lel
https://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/benefits-world-hunger
https://archive.ph/GHjVG
>a-a-akshyually it's just a joke, s-satire! They don't mean it
psycopaths and sarcasm, like cheese and pears
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Has anyone here read Capital as Power, and is it worthwhile? I saved off a PDF from the authors' website years ago and haven't gotten around to reading it yet.
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The time to get into crude oil was 2020 (or the start of 2021 when we went against Russia) but now is an especially good time if you missed the dip before. Why? Because people think for some reason that this is like 2008 (because it's in recent memory and use that as reference) and inflation / inflation rate will simply stop. It's not like the 2008 recession because America printed trillions of dollars in the span of 2 years and continues to print money by sending it all to Ukraine. So as soon as we "officially" (we have been in a recession if people payed attention) went into a recession, people sold off their commodities and went back into tech. Because that was the right move for the 2008 recession (which isn't the case this time). Meaning it's time to buy in as crude oil is less than $100 dollars. It's going to dramatically increase soon as more demand for it is going up. 

>Oil steadies around $100 a barrel, but heads for 5th straight weekly loss as recession fears take hold
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/oil-steadies-around-24100-a-barrel-but-heads-for-5th-straight-weekly-loss-as-recession-fears-take-hold/ar-AAZwKRA Sorry, archive.ph isn't working at the moment.

Reminder that Europe is still going through an energy crisis because enviormentalist/globalist's government policies that destroyed fuel companies and their antagonistic policies against Russia. Now they can't get fuel and fertilizer from Russia. Oh and this Ukraine nonsense has made it so Ukraine farmers missed their crop rotation so now we have a wheat shortage. Now we have Dutch farmers not working and protesting instead. And various meat facilities are still burning down from natural causes. Despite the media saying again and again that this is no conspiracy, they seem to be damage controlling it on a monthly basis for some reason. Anyways, this is just another reason to diversify your portfolio into commodities and dump a little extra money into it.

>Erik Townsend (Global Recession, Future Gas Price, Food/Energy Inflation, SPR, Putin's Playbook)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9t62Ys50nY
For those interested in food/energy inflation. This goes over some of it.
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>>74956
>I will believe it, when I see it.
<Meanwhile in Sri Lanka after just 4 years of Socialism and losing all their food
The promise of "free" gibs is so powerful that people can watch the same results of this type of government over 50 times and will still vote for it anyway.
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I made 100 dollars with GME, now what?
What does this thread even remotely have to do with anime?
Come the fuck on BO...
>>77849
I have to pay for my anime merch somehow.
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>>77849
Anons should learn how to make money and be financially responsible so they can live as a NEET like this bear and post on image boards all day and buy degenerate material to post in the Buyfag Thread.
>>77849
None of your /biz/siness.
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The next FOMC (Federal Open Market Comittee) meeting is on Thursday. Here they'll most likely announce that we're in a recession. The Biden admin is trying to redefine the term recession for coping purposes but I don't think that'll stop the FOMC from calling it. If normalfags are foolish this means they'll think "It's just like 2008, time to sell commodities and get into big tech!". Do not do this. EU is still in an energy crisis and soon will be in a food crisis as globalist WEF bullshit burns down meat factories and make policies to keep farmers from working. Denmark has already said their food supply will be dramatically lower thanks to farmer protests. Putin has announced he'll be willing to let wheat leave Ukraine too. The demand for food and energy will sky rocket as the year goes on.

If all goes well, on Friday we'll see commodities dip dramatically as people sell them to get back into big tech. That's when you buy into commodities. Then we wait until the demand gets really high before selling it. If things go well, we'll be commissioning hundreds of artists to draw our obscure waifu while swimming in fumos.
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>>78442
So just buy oil and food stocks Friday to get the most out of longterm returns?
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bought some silver the other day
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>>78443
Not stocks, but sectors or commodities features. Because right now Europe is going full fascist by nationalizing the energy sector. Create a crisis using environmental/climate change policies and then take over sectors. This was always the goal of climate change. Saying that, we don't know which companies will or won't be backed by the government. For that reason, you are better off investing in a sector rather than a company. That way you don't have to worry about which company will be shit on/inflated by the government.

>German government agrees on bailout for energy supplier
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/german-government-agrees-on-bailout-for-energy-supplier/ar-AAZQZhT
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>>78444
Why is silver better than gold again?
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>>78454
Not him but both silver and gold have many practical uses. However if you grab gold, it would mainly be for the idea of countries going back to the gold standard which isn't happening at the moment (maybe except Russia). So you might as well grab silver instead. I'm sure there's more to it than that though.
>>78454
It's much cheaper and also maintains its value like gold in the case of runaway inflation so it's a better option for people who can't afford to regularly throw down $1700 or whatever the fuck it costs for an ounce of gold now. The idea is if seems more and more like "when" every day now the dollar gets usurped as the worldwide standard you can then exchange the silver for whatever the new dominant currency is after shit calms down instead of leaving your money in a savings account where it will continue to devalue rapidly until it's worth about as much as points in some shitty video game. Though if you do have the spare income to get your hands on a bunch of gold go for that because it'll be more value in a lighter and easier to hide/transport package.
>>78454
It's undervalued because the kikes are artificially keeping it down. Basically it's a lot more scarce than it seems. Nobody really mines it except as a byproduct, and historically gold has been kept and silver thrown away. At some point in the relatively near future the only way to get more will be by scavenging it from discarded electronics (Urban mining). Unlike global warming this will actually happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sQTxov7yws
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Here's another economic but also a life management book. It's mainly targeted toward single men but it can be useful for both men and women in rationships. 

>Bachelor Pad Economics - Aaron Clarey.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/10daxe14y5/Bachelor_Pad_Economics_-_Aaron_Clarey_pdf
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>>78442
Commodities have all gone down again after rising for a few days post FOMC meeting on July 28th. Normalfags are going back into cash and tech for some reason. Wheat and crude oil went down as well. It's as said here >>77835, inflation will not go away for a long time due to excess money printing. We have increased demand without increasing supply to match it, so everything goes up in price. Not only that but the supply chain disruption across the globe has lowered supply. This is why the FED can't simply "combat inflation". They can't just lower demand or increase the supply. The stagflation started 6 months ago but now it's official. So everyone is responding to that announcement. During stagflation, people move away from buying expensive things (tech) that they don't actually need and focus on things that actually matter like food (commodities). Especially with how expensive meat is.

Anyway, don't invest into tech. Go for commodities, crude oil, and wheat.
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>>78689
>Wheat and crude oil went down as well.
The former is due to Ukraine and Russia agreeing in a ceasefire for the purposes of resuming grain exports, meanwhile the latter is due to Brandon selling oil to the Chinese with the purpose of decreasing the price globally.
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Shit is about to get fucked so hard it's hysterical
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>>78692
What just happened?
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>>78690
Thanks, I should have provided links to have people understand why things were being influenced.
<Crude Oil ETFs Drop Amid Demand Recession Concerns
https://etfdb.com/news/2022/06/17/crude-oil-etfs-drop-amid-demand-recession-concerns/
<Ukraine Grain Exports Under Russia Deal Expected To Hit 5M Tonnes/Month In 2023, Generate $5 Over Next Year
https://www.benzinga.com/news/22/07/28211537/ukraine-grain-exports-under-russia-deal-expected-to-hit-5m-tonnesmonth-in-2023-generate-5-over-next
<Lebanon's Economic Crisis Adds Pressure to Wheat Prices
https://etfdb.com/commodities-channel/lebanon-s-economic-crisis-adds-pressure-to-wheat-prices/

For those interested in news articles related to stocks, Fidelity has a news section at the bottom of the page of the company/sector's trade page. Here's the metals/mining sector for reference.
https://eresearch.fidelity.com/eresearch/markets_sectors/sectors/industries.jhtml?tab=learn&industry=151040
>>78695
A certain geriatric alcoholic from congress decided she'd go ahead and swing by Taiwan which is a visit China was openly and specifically grr'ing about for the past few days and now all the markets are shitting their pants. Geopolitics is so fucking stupid it's hilarious. The kicker is she's probably doing this so she can buy a shitload more cheap stocks then sell them after nothing happens and the market recovers.
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>>78697
Word around is that she went there on taxpayer's money to check on the nVidia fab with her investment in them
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>>78704
>the nVidia fab with her investment in them
She sold everything she had in Nvidia at a loss last week.
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>>78708
Is that why she's been drinking more than usual? That last time she appeared in front of a camera gave me flashbacks to my drinking days, and this lady is fuckin 82 years old while getting trashed to the point of incomprehensible rambling.
>>78710
My bet is Nvidia's going to tank so she'll rebuy when it's low or else just cutting her losses before they become bigger.
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>>78710
Her claim is that selling it at a loss was deliberate, "rather than allow the misinformation in the press regarding this trade to continue" in the words of her deputy chief of staff. The Pelosis sold the day before a bill passed that left Nvida's share price 12% higher now that it was at the time, supposedly to prove they weren't profiting off the bill.
Last week she insisted that she and her husband had "absolutely not" used her position for insider trading, but obviously nobody believed that. So her response was to engage in insider trading at a deliberate loss to prove she doesn't profit from insider trading.

But the question now becomes, what happens if she goes to Taiwan, and the chinks aren't just all talk? If Taiwan, an essential and irreplaceable hub for chip fabrication, faces a serious and imminent military threat, what happens to the share price of companies that need that silicon? It's a long shot and not the most likely motivation, but she might be planning to create a dip, expecting China to not go ALL the way, but just far enough to scare investors and give her a chance to buy back in before it blows over and prices recover. 
It'd be really fucking ironic if she had a scheme going where she sold at that loss to supposedly prove her integrity, then within the week engaged in WW3 brinksmanship to turn it back into a profit. But given the clown world we live in, a scheme that ironic and insane sounds possible.
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>>78719
Pelosi really seems like the type greedy boomer idiot that rarely thinks beyond what she can get out of it, I really wouldn't put it past her to play chicken with China in order to make a few million.
>>78710
Being another punching bag for the Bidin admin would do that to anyone. It's like being the parent for a very aggressive hoodlum child that you can't punish due to the law.
>she landed
>chinks have done nothing 
Well if her plan was to use the chinks to scare the market into a lower price so she could buy back in it doesn't seem to be playing out very well, they're just hovering around kicking dirt and squealing. It'd be nice if they shot her down while she was leaving though.
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>>78733
At least it's good to know that nobody likes her, even outside the US
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>>78716
Cohencidentally
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>>78761
It'd be cool if a lot of things were produced domestically again. I know in regards to the chips and other tech crap they're just gonna pump them full of spy shit but they already do that.
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My hope is that someone pushes for Free as in Freedom hardware that doesn´t cost an arm and a leg.
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>More money printing via stimulus checks from 15+ states. Expect way more inflation.
https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/taxes/state-stimulus-checks-2022-who-is-getting-a-payment/
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stimulus-updates-know-summer-2022-190001849.html

>Chips act passed giving $52 billion to US corps to encourage them to build semiconductors. Of course, this will be payed by the tax payers through inflation. Also this doesn't stop companies from making factories outside the USA.
https://www.constructiondive.com/news/52-billion-chips-act-boon-construction-challenges-remain/628789/

Another play by the WEF (World Economic Forum) to completely destroy the dollar because the EURO, by their own design, is becoming less valuable incredibly fast. They need the US to shit the bed before Europe does. Inflation is going to be so damn high it's insane. On a smaller level, the democrats are trying to gain support by printing even more money. Because the inflation due to their current actions will arrive post mid terms. 

We are on the cusp of something big happening people. Countries are going full Day of The Rope like Sri Lanka a few weeks ago. >>77836
Who knows which country could collapse next under the globalist's attack on the world.
https://archive.ph/wip/rfddF

The supply chain is still in shambles.
https://archive.ph/GtGZb 

I hope you anons have been stocking up on canned foods and ammo. Have you been saving money? Have you considered if the place you're living in is prone to a chimp out when shit hits the fan? The time to act was years ago, but doing something NOW may mitigate damage.
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>>78804
>Another play by the WEF (World Economic Forum) to completely destroy the dollar because the EURO, by their own design, is becoming less valuable incredibly fast. They need the US to shit the bed before Europe does.
Care to explain?
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>>78823
I guess it's time to post another economics book. The Creature From Jekyll Island is a book about the creation of the Federal Reserves, the history of central banking in America (there were 4 attempts and all were disastrous), Woodrow Wilson (the President who sold out America and drug us into WW1), socialism, what is currency, and how economics works. By the time you're done reading it you'll understand how the money system in America actually works and why it was doomed to fail with the creation of the Federal Reserves. It also has an audio book. While I don't have the audio book, here's an hour and 30min video that sums up the strong points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu_VqX6J93k

Now to answer your question, the WEF is a partner of the Fed (Federal Reserve). It's full of zionists and globalists who are attempting another go at globalism. The first attempt was WW1 and the League of Nations that came after (which quickly failed). The WEF is simply a group of very rich and influential people who want to enslave the world under a central bank via socialism. This elite cartel wants to remove all competition to ensure their group will forever be the elites of the world. They make friends with many politicians around the world and to influence countries to slowly follow their plan. Meanwhile they fund violent groups to destroy countries cultures from the inside while using their political puppets to influence them from the outside. Of course, they have friends in the WHO (World Health Organization) and the UN (United Nations) are supposed to be their muscle. Same with America's military industrial complex.

Their latest attack on the world is the lab made Wuhan Flu/Corona virus. Said lab being funded by the Obama admin. Before, war was the way they would try and gain control over nations. However that is much harder to control. But a nation under fear is much more predictable. Global lockdowns were made to essentially bring socialism to the world. Meanwhile the virus was supposed to kill the elderly and obese to cut down on welfare world wide. Sadly for them, Corona was released a few years before they were ready for whatever reason. It wasn't as deadly as they had hoped. It only took a summer to become relevant in 2020. The virus was made to keep people perpetually in fear and the vaccines were designed to make you dependent on the government. By design, these vaccines (MRNA gene therapy) was never made to cure anyone but was intended to weaken your immune system to make covid more effective and to keep you dependent on meds by the government. Again, sadly for them, they couldn't just give people injection induced AIDS without also giving people blood clots. 

Mind you the lockdowns wasn't their only ploy. They had backups. Like using Climate Change to destroy the energy sector, so they can nationalize it. That has always been the goal of Climate Change as seen here >>78445
They have also been hiring people to burn down meat factories which plenty have been burned down over the past 2 years. 
>25 Mysterious Fires at Food Processing Plants Across U.S.; 'End-of-Days Food Shortage'
https://archive.ph/9u0BM
They're trying to create shortages and make us eat artificial/bug meat for some reason too.

Anyway the globalists need America to lose the value faster than the EURO so that there's no place for people to run to and so they can push their globalist agenda even harder. However, the WEF has been losing over and over again as all their cronies have been getting removed from power world wide. The damage they have done has been felt world wide again however not everything that has come from this has been negative.
>JPY is now 140 to $1
And I thought a few months ago was a good time to import. Better start importing before inflation hits the dollar even harder. Which will happen around winter most likely.
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>EPA head: Advanced nuke tech key to mitigate climate change
https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14710226
It's over, the climate change agenda has taken ove-... Oh? This is actually good. Japan and US are finally starting to embrace nuclear energy. Looks like a reaction to WEF climate change agenda where they tried to destroy the energy sector to nationalize it. Very late but better than nothing. Anyway this is another reason to invest into the energy sector. That's assuming it's not on the rise already.
This unironically is a great /biz/ thread with a nice weeb flare.
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>>80317
If you have any questions then shoot. I'm learning this stuff along with other anons and thankfully we can correct each other if we give bad advice. Saying that, I need to reupload all these books I've posted. The links died. I should make encrypted files on MEGA so they stay up much longer.
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>>80327
What are some good ways to make passive side income?
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>>80332
You have to get creative.
>>80327
Is there any stocks worth investing in right now? From what I've been hearing recently, it's all tanking.
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>>80332
That's what investing or being an employer of a company is for. Or if you job aligns with your hobby like drawing. If you want to get into investing, I made a starter guide here. 
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>>76379

>>80337
You are better off learning how to fish instead of asking for fish. You should be in commodities features due to the wheat shortage, energy crisis, high fuel demand, and starting of nuclear facility production. Even more so because we're in stagflation. It's important to know why you're investing in this too. That's why I say read up on some of those guides I posted. You don't want to be the guy who buys when everyone is pouring in or selling when everyone else is. Your goal is to consistently beat your old portfolio. You don't have to make it big with some meme stock like most normalfags want to do. Like how all of them went to tech for reasons I've explained earlier in the thread. I can say this at least, you should be investing into wheat/WEAT after what just happened in Ukraine. There will be a lowering of its stock due to the war in Ukraine, which produces most of the wheat in the world.

I'll try reuploading the reading material if I can find it.
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>>80337
I'd be up over 2% this year if I'd stuck to my strategy and not fallen for the Palantir meme. I still think it'll work out long-term, glowies + early Paypal guys = massive cashcow  
I do the Acquirer's Multiple thing. It's reasonable - I've tried to do the indexing myself at the start, but failed to find a source that gave me all the necessary data on the cheap, so I'm relying on Carlisle's website. 20 stocks, ranked by the AM, 
Largest half of the stock market, excluding utilities and financials. Flip and balance quarterly.
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>>76380
>not 360 no scoping the bombs
>>80351
what?
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>>80367
Anon was asking for stocks. I gave him my experience with my strategy, which consists of what Tobias E. Carlisle described in his pretty well known books.
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>>80332
To add onto >>80350. You would be better off looking at the demands of the market and then deciding to make something based around that. Here's an example. 
https://nichegamer.com/cloudflare-wrong-deplatform-8chan-keffals/
https://nichegamer.com/cloudflare-is-blocking-kiwi-farms/

The market demands a service that protects sites from DDOS attacks that isn't influenced by the government. If you are adept in coding and making software, you could find other people to help you (or do it yourself if you're that talented) and create this service. So many sites would drop Cloudflare and pick up your service. All you would have to do is be careful where you host your servers so they won't be raided by glowies, which is becoming more of a common tactic today. Once you iron out the bugs, you will be raking in money without doing much else. And thanks to modern tech, you don't have to do business with the big tech commies in coastal cities.

This is just an example. The governments around the west in general are causing many problems for their people. This creates demands for new/better services. Pay attention to what the market will demand, form your skills around that, and rake in money. Of course, know that your service can be censored or hampered by modern politics. So plan carefully.
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>>80350
I really appreciated that book by Thomas Sowell that you posted earlier, it's really informative. Thanks for the good work as always.
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>>80373
>The market demands a service that protects sites from DDOS attacks that isn't influenced by the government
Coincidentally I've thought of making some cloudflare copy, but it's just rough working from what I read about using the service and I still have some unknown on some uses.
I'll have to search some more info on DDoS in general I guess so I can try and piece the remaining parts.

On a side note: Pics
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>>80511
We are really heading steadfast into a real shitshow. This reminds me that I need to start hoarding food. I heard you should have enough food to at least live for 6 months. I doubt places like the USA or certain EU countries will have empty shelves but most of the world is fucked. It would also be a good idea to stay way from cities when the welfare runs out.
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>>80520
Don't forget the bullets, fren. Not everybody will have stockpiled. 
I myself have about 7 months, but I should be able to supplement this with produce and such. Probably a good idea to get seeds now rather than in spring too, just in case. Also, fertilizer.
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>>80524
I really missed out on the initial food hoarding time which was early 2021. I knew massive inflation was coming but wasn't in a good position to start hoarding food. Now we have droughts, large bush fires, supply chain issues, countries hitting hyper inflation, populace uprisings and ((( many meat plants around the US and EU mysteriously burning down ))). I have much work to do. Ammo, guns, food, etc. And for those anons living in cities. Buy a generator as soon as you can. These politicians want to burn everything down around them before the normalfags remove them from office/lynch them. You don't want to be caught with your pants down when the great chimpout begins.
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>Sugar and Salt Shortage Worsens Philippines Food Supply Woes
https://archive.ph/Mp0XK
As we can see, the WEF "eat ze bugs" agenda combined with the west's retarded attack on Russia and politicians fucking with farmers has made things worse for everyone. But we can take advantage of this. It's clear that government heads don't want their heads to roll so as the people get hungrier so they're doing their best to actually fix the problems instead of fucking around. As I've stated before, commodites are going to be in much higher demand soon as things get worse. Normalfags are slowly realizing we're in stagnation (https://infogalactic.com/info/Stagflation) and that tech isn't what they should be going into. Especially when people have less money in general thanks to all that inflation. They can't afford to buy the newest Iphone.

Also an important line from the article:
<"Still, the government has said the shortage is artificial and caused by traders hoarding supply." https://archive.ph/EMtye
<"The agriculture department plans to confiscate white-onion and sugar stockpiles suspected of being hoarded and sell them to the public at lower prices, Undersecretary Domingo Panganiban said in a television interview."
Expect governments to fuck with the market one way or another. This is similar to price controls and never works. Long story short, the price gatekeeps people from mass buying something so the supply won't run out. By doing this, the fastest buyers stockpile on all the cheap goods leaving everyone else in the dust. This is simply a political move to ease the economically illiterate masses.

Anyway I expect sugar to go up in demand in the upcoming year. It went down slightly recently but I'm not sure if it's worth getting into.
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>>80561
How the fuck does an ISLAND have a SALT shortage? It's literally surrounding them on all sides.
>>80563
Probably in a similar way to how Venezuela had a gas shortage a few years back, despite being one of the top gas exporters.
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>>80563
The same reason you export shit be processed in another country, lack of facilities or desire to build them. I think making sea salt is pretty land intensive if using natural methods and probably fairly expensive if using factory methods.
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>>80563
https://archive.ph/wip/k13fd
<Marcos said it was ironic that the Philippines has the fifth longest coastline in the world that measures some 36,000 kilometers but imports salt from China and Australia.
<She noted that more than 90 percent of the country’s salt requirements in the past three decades have been imported, with little done to develop the local salt industry.
Hey lady, it's not ironic, it's stupid. Why did no one in power even begin to make salt factories so you could become an exporter of salt instead of an importer? You could have created more jobs and made a large industry that would have benefited the country for decades. Now look at them panicing when there's a global supply chain issue. This is like how California has known that they could suffer a water shortage in a few years yet didn't bother starting programs for desalinization plants along the coast line. 

>>80565
In the case of Venezuela, they went into socialism. Now the cities have the highest amount of murders and thefts in the world. Unlike Sri Lanka though, the dictator was smart enough to have the military protect his places.
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up to 29oz of silver over the weekend (thnk fuck i bought before the market opened monday)
it's not much but it's all i can afford
my spread is probably like 92% video games 8% metal, I want more metal but I like my stuff ;_;
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I have zero idea how to actually invest in commodities outside of ETFs, and even then I have no idea if any one is fine, or if I should be pursuing any specific ones. Should I just buy any kind of ETF if I know what market I am looking for (Let's just say oil and Wheat because of common sense making those valuable for now)?
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>Putin Threatens Complete Energy Cut Off To West If Price Caps Are Imposed [Sep 7th 2022]
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Putin-Threatens-Complete-Energy-Cut-Off-To-West-If-Price-Caps-Are-Imposed.html

>Oil extends losses on recession fears [Sep 15th 2022]
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-extends-losses-recession-fears-2022-09-16/

If you have any money on you to burn or planned to take out a loan, this would be the time to invest into energy, oil, gas, and consumable fuels. For some retarded reason barely anyone is investing into fuel/energy commodities despite an energy crisis all across the west, Putin threatening to cut off ALL energy resources on Europe, the oil reserves in America being at an all time low in decades, Europeans cutting down trees once again to provide a source of fire during the winter, and multiple states having their energy grid shut down over a lack of energy.
Energy commodities are a necessary for people to not die during winter! There WILL be a demand for them in winter and there's already a clear demand for it now!
Yet normalfags are still selling oil/energy commodities to go back to dollars. Clearly the goyim don't know how economics works. The supply/stock of energy is dramatically decreasing while the demand for it is dramatically increasing. It's simply not reflected in the market YET. It will be when people are freezing and starving to death this winter. Article after article is telling you how little energy we have yet they still sold. But that's good for us because this make it cheaper for us to buy in. I'll buy now and wait while the normalfags pour in when they see "number go up" (instead of buying when the number went down like you're supposed to). It's time to profit off the starving and desperate to fund my future doll collection.

>>80970
I want to give a more detailed answer when I have the time. So stay tuned.
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>>80998
<Meanwhile in Europe...

>Despite the Historical Blunders of Price Fixing, European Commission and G7 Pledge to Impose Price Controls
https://news.bitcoin.com/despite-the-historical-blunders-of-price-fixing-european-commission-and-g7-pledge-to-impose-price-controls/

So what does price controls do to a market? Price controls will make the scarce resource they put a price control on get brought off immediately by a few, fast and savvy people while everyone else will be left in the dust. This will create more demand for said resource. A smart politician who cares about the people would just stop price controls, a retarded one will then start rationing instead or possibly seize the resources from the producers. In this situation, the producers will simply move their business elsewhere. America is exporting tons of energy to EU right now. If the NWO/WEF clowns keep pushing for sanctions against Russia, it will be China and India getting all the energy. Assuming the democrats get kicked out during the midterms, I'm assuming America will reserve more energy for its self unless EU countries pay for said energy with something. 

Again, another reason to get into fuel and energy during a stagflation. Things are only going to get more expensive and things are going to start breaking down world wide. Fuel influences the price of everything since it influences the price of transportation. America can combat this by removing most of the welfare and getting shutting down the government but the first choice would be political suicide. It has to stop spending so much money on people who don't produce.


>>80849
While metals are a safe investment I don't see the demand for silver going up any time soon. Any reason why besides it just being low at the moment or are you just diversifying your portfolio?
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>>80998
You're heavily underestimating the risk caused by the green suicide cult. 
Europe just banned imports of products linked to deforestation for example. While winter is coming, we don't have gas, and firewood would be a simple alternative that works easily (all you absolutely need is some metal container, you can use a food can as a mini stove.  
All that needs to happen to fuck your investment is the west deciding a couple million dead is acceptable collateral losses for not displeasing Greta. The people might revolt, sure, but countries in civil wars aren't rich enough to buy much.

And be careful with oil company stock. The way that's priced is long-term, the reason they aren't that hot is because they invest very little in future capacity and haven't done so in a while. They're gonna fall off a cliff in a couple years, even if they start building and exploring now. Oil, sure, but oil companies are dangerous.
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>>80970
I can't give a full answer now but I can give this at least since time is of the essence. I've learned my economics from Thomas Sowell books and other economics books along with certain economics videos. I linked this guy's stuff earlier >>76379 but I recently started following his subscribe star for $5. Yes, I am shilling his works. I think the $5 dollar sub is worth the instructions he provides for investing right now and he understands both the Chicago and Austrian school of economics. Considering you don't know what you're doing, I think the info he provides would be really beneficial to you.
https://tee.fm/monkeys-market-minute-w-c-september-5th-2022/
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>>81002
The volatile and corrupt governments is exactly why I haven't invested into company stocks vs sector ETFs. Despite the "demand destruction" the media memes about, they can't stop people from demanding food and energy since their lives depend on it. Even if some countries fuck themselves over from buying fuel and energy there will be others that'll gladly take it up. It's not that I don't think the green socialists won't go far enough, I plan on them continuing down their path. Whether they're forcibly removed from office to allow trade with Russia or they suicide the country all for their own pride it doesn't change that the value of the energy/oil sectors will rise. They've locked themselves into a bad ending. Which one we'll never know but we can profit from this either way.
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>>80998
>If you have any money on you to burn or planned to take out a loan, this would be the time to invest into energy, oil, gas, and consumable fuels.
Stupid question: HOW? Despite all of the talk about "investing" in stocks/bonds/etc., no one actually ever explains the process by which one does it. Where do I go to do this? Is there a license or some registration process that I have to go through? How can I track my investments? What's the best source of info aside from what I just hear in the local news on how the various markets are going?
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>>81005
Robinhood is the standard casual option if you're in the US. Not necessarily great, but versatile and offers everything.  
Other than that, get an online broker account, ideally one where you pay by transaction (the fees still exist in other accounts, they're just less obvious... or they fuck you over like Robinhood did when the Gamestop thing happened). 
TD Ameritrade or etoro for general investing and Vanguard for ETFs seem to be popular options for US citizens, but I'm not there, so have no hands-on experience with either. These things are really country-dependent, and you REALLY want a platform in your country unless you have an accountant. 
 
As for license, you just have to sign that you're aware of the risk and pinky swear you know what you're doing when it comes to certain higher-risk things. There's accredited investors, but that's for shit like angel investing and such.  
Yahoo finance is a good free source of data and news, bloomberg news and WSJ for general news, and the occasional company website for financial reports.
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>>81005
You have to choose a broker service. I personally use Fidelity but I can't tell you why it's better or worse than others. Here's a site that compares them.
https://brokerchooser.com/broker-reviews/fidelity-review/fidelity-alternatives

Once you open an account you link add money from your bank to the site. After that you can invest through stocks or dollars. You can't just throw in money at any time though. You can only do it while the market is open.
https://www.standard.com/individual/retirement/stock-market-and-bank-holidays
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>>81006
>>81008
Thanks for the info. I really need to schedule a time to figure out when I'm actually looking at things and what I'm doing.
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>>80999
>Any reason why besides it just being low at the moment or are you just diversifying your portfolio?
I like taking money out of the Jewish financial system because I don't trust it desu. I also like shiny.
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>>81034
>I like taking money out of the Jewish financial system because I don't trust it desu.
I've been thinking of doing the same thing, by planning on taking out 10% from my first savings to have stored somewhere (Like under a mattress or something) that I never touch outside of emergencies (Like the city's power grid goes offline). Though, now I'm thinking of spending some of that on precious metals for the same purpose. Any advise on how to buy and store gold/silver/platinum/etc.?

Also, what's some general advice about currency coins, themselves? Because there's a bunch of jars around my house containing dozens of pennies, dimes, quarters, etc.
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>>81069
You'll get the best deals, - that is, the lowest premium over spot price - locally. Your country's sovereign coin will be the most recognized and liquid, but will also generally fetch the highest premiums. See: Silver Eagle in USA, Maple Leaf in Canada. Rounds are just coins without any legal face value. If you just care about weight, bars and junk tend to be the cheapest. Personally I don't want any bars because fractional silver is easier to trade with. As for storage I can just give some general tips: The easier something is for you to access, the easier it is for a thief. You should spend 10% of your investment on security for it in the form of a safe or what have you. 

If you have jars of old coins in your house I'd look through them all for rare or silver ones if you have the time, you never know. Keep the pennies regardless, the copper weight is worth more than the face value.
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>>80520
>India bans export of broken rice, imposes 20% duty on non-Basmati rice
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/foreign-trade/india-bans-exports-of-broken-rice-imposes-20-duty-on-non-basmati-rice/articleshow/94088413.cms?from=mdr
<India, the world's second-largest rice producer after China, commands a 40 per cent share in the global trade.
<The country exported 21.2 million tonnes of rice in the 2021-22 fiscal year, of which 3.94 million tonnes were Basmati rice. It exported non-Basmati rice worth USD 6.11 billion in the same period, as per official data

More restrictions on food are coming in just as we saw here >>80571.
It would be a good idea to stock up on grain too. You can store rice long term as long as it isn't brown rice. White vinegar, salt, and honey can also be stored indefinitely. White vinegar is great for removing grease if you didn't know. I know this is a /biz/ thread but I think money saving/survival stuff like this fits right into discussions of economics.
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>>81110
Just a reminder: While white rice is not likely to spoil from mold or such if stored in a dry space they're likely to be infested with stuff like moths, weevils or mealworms.
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>>81112
That's why I store my rice and flour and air tight containers as soon as I open them. Even then, it's a good habit to always rinse your rice and filter your flour for bugs before use.
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>>81114
Sifting flour is good practice anyway, to fluff it up and remove clumps.
>>81008
So, going through you links, looks like I'll either be using Fidelity or TD Ameritrade: https://brokerchooser.com/compare/fidelity-vs-td-ameritrade
However, before I take the plunge, there's a couple things I'm curious about:
<Will I really need for worry about margin rates when I only plan on buying with my own money in the bank and not any loans?
<How important is fractional shares, forex, and futures?
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>>81124
>margin rates
only if you're using margin or trading futures (which effectively means you're using margin)
>fractional shares
afaik TDA doesn't fully support these, and you only get them from dividends reinvestment plans where if you get $11 in dividends on a $10 stock you'll get 1.1 shares. Otherwise they're pretty self-explanatory.
>forex
don't do this it's just retarded gambling unless you're a foreigner and using some convoluted bullshit to hedge your account against exchange rates.
>futures
extremely dangerous since they're highly levered, cash settled, and time sensitive, but have some tax advantages and they're ultimately the most direct way to trade commodities.
Biggest issue newbies don't understand with futures is if you're buying crude oil futures or whatever, you're buying oil being delivered on a specific month, so even if you're right on your thesis, if you bought the wrong contract you might not even make any money.

The retard proof option is to just drop some money into SPY or VTI and come back a decade or two later and you can assume a 5-15% yearly return assuming things have gone the way they have for the past 100 years.
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>>81127
Thanks for the info, guess I'll be going with Fidelity.
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>>81069
I purchase gold one oz bars.
Reasons being you save on the premium of coins; percentage taxed for service and labor of creation, the minting of said coins.
They are legal tender, and therefore can be used for major purchases or as collateral for a credit. 
My personal advice is the relationship you have with your vendor or jewelr don't use a bank or online service the personal relationship will save you money, and the amount you buy like anything the bigger the deal the better the deal. If u insist on buying coins ask about the sleves; 10 typically to a sleeve.
It's like anything keep an eye on the value to your country's currency; usually listed in US dollars online and then sit back and sell when u need preferably when it's high.
>>81156
holy richfag
if those were mine id probably censor the serials at least
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>>81156
I thought those were those cheese tubs that you get with kids cracker and cheese packs 616fa
>>81163
The serials are for tracking purposes too prove authenticity but that's why u buy 1 oz bars like cash they only exists whenever u sell.
That and I only make these purchases with cash again why the relationship is important with your vendor only real part on my receipts was my phone number; which i also pay with cash.
Also forgive me if I missed it anywhere in the thread does anyone do gic's ? I know people will say dosnt even keep up with inflation but I'm a fan, safe with guaranteed results mine sit at 4.4% percent 14 month terms and other market linked ones that range but low end of 4.5 too 50% with various length terms.
Mainly in leaf land dividend or stock is taxed as capital gains which is 50% of profit, where gics are taxed as regular income so depending on the tax bracket I find much more reasonable.
Again if anyone else does this strategy I'm curious too hear advice or successes.
I guess also opinions on buying forgin currency I've debated purchasing euors while parity is closer and just sit on the straight cash worse case would be a vacation but again any thoughts about it would be appreciated.
>>81156
Hello fellow leaf.
So, the Yen just entered free-fall this morning, to the point that the government had to get involved: https://archive.ph/mJHT7
>>81070
>You'll get the best deals, - that is, the lowest premium over spot price - locally.
Does it matter whether I get the coins from an actual coin store, a pawn shop, or an antique store?
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>>81294
The latter will probably mark you the fuck up unless they don't know what they have. Be careful you don't get electroplated silver if you're buying antiques instead of sterling. Look at the stamp.
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>>81296
>Be careful you don't get electroplated silver if you're buying antiques instead of sterling.
No, the antiques shop (Which is effectively an indoor flea market) has some vendors who have silver coins available with set prices on the coins.
What is up with the yen falling?
the increased shipping costs balance out the currency drop unfortunately, otherwise it would be a good time to buy jap products
What's a good application or site that allows me to check the various markets (individual company stocks, ETFs, gold, forex, etc.) all on the same page?
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>>81497
Haven't bothered looking anything like that up. Here's how I usually look up software though. This might be a good start.
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>U.S. Blew Up Russian Gas Pipelines Nord Stream 1 & 2, Says Former Polish Defense Minister
https://archive.ph/WcIEl
Would you advise that I get involved with oil stock/ETFs sometime this week or hold out for a little longer? I remember someone saying that oil stocks are always in the decline during autumn.
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>>81539
Wow I forgot to post the link.
https://alternativeto.net/software/stocktitan-net/
>>81553
Ironic considering the dollar is soaring and gold is crashing to the crater of the earth.
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>>81562
noone can make your investment decisions for you
>>81573
well that's the hope, hasn't quite happened yet
I want to buy a lot if it crashes
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>>81573
It's not ironic. Everyone has been telling normalfags to buy dollars. Why the hell would anyone buy dollars during a stagflation where your currency is constantly losing value? What sense does that make? Not only that but Japan just started selling off US bonds and all that money will come back to the US increasing the money supply even more, which increases inflation even more. The normalfags in dollars are following typical goyim behavior. The dollar will only lose more value over time. 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/what-would-japans-currency-intervention-combat-weak-yen-look-like-2022-09-14/
>When Japan intervenes to stem yen rises, the Ministry of Finance issues short-term bills to raise yen which it can then sell in the market to weaken the Japanese currency's value.
>If it were to conduct intervention to stop yen falls, authorities must tap Japan's foreign reserves for dollars to sell in the market in exchange for yen.
>In both cases, the finance minister will issue the final order to intervene. The Bank of Japan will act as an agent and execute the order in the market.

I also see articles still pretending like we're not already in a recession when we have been since the start of the year.
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>>81576
>I also see articles still pretending like we're not already in a recession when we have been since the start of the year.
If you want to get technical about it, we've been in a recession since Trump shut the country down over two years ago, and everything up to now is the government pulling every trick in the book to delay the effects of it.
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>d-drump
oh fuck here we go again
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>>81581
And said effects are going to hit us like a truck. It would have been much better to just let things flow naturally but when globalists need to destroy the world's economy, you can expect them government of the USA to do nothing.
THE POUND IS FALLING
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>>81591
So, that's why gold and oil took a jump.
>>81584
>>81581
I don't know what the problem here is but I have a feeling one of you is about to go full politinigger.
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>>81602
Read that as "I have a feeling one of you is about to go full poltnigger".
>>81603
>It is especially thick near the abdomen and crotch
>full bush Polt
I need it.
>>81603
Yes please do that instead.
>>81603
God, I love Polt.
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Poltniggatry aside, I was curious if it was actually the US that sabotaged the Nord Stream 1&2 pipelines. I mean it really pointed to the Biden admin but I was wondering if it could be another group trying to drag America into the conflict more. However considering the media completely shut up about it after 1 day, it's clear as day that it was the Biden admin that did this. If not the media would be constantly putting blame on whoever did it. Even who it could have been potentially. 

God I want to motorboat Polt's fluffy midriff. Also Europe is still going through an energy crisis and this makes things much worse for them. It's about to be October. I was speaking of the demand being high during winter. Now the stock will be lowering to thanks to this.
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accidentally blew all my money on silver and lost it boating again…………..
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>Income Investors Are Returning To Oil And Gas Stocks
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Income-Investors-Are-Returning-To-Oil-And-Gas-Stocks.html
This is when normalfags will begin jumping into commodities. Assuming it's not going up yet. NOW would be the time to jump in, again. If it is going up, don't buy.

>>81783
>Again
You're not supposed to repeat your mistakes twice. Also some saving advice for anons, make sure you have at least 6 months worth of savings to live off of if things don't go your way and you can't make any money somehow. It's nice to invest but the whole point of having lots of money is to live comfortably so you can focus on other things.
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>>81784
>Assuming it's not going up yet. NOW would be the time to jump in, again. If it is going up, don't buy.
Don't buy altogether, or don't buy ETFs and stocks that are already on the rise?

>>81784
>make sure you have at least 6 months worth of savings to live off of if things don't go your way and you can't make any money somehow
Just follow the 10% rule. Set aside (At least) 10% of all net earnings that you make (From any source of income) in a reserve/savings account that will never be touched. Then, of that reserve/savings account, you only take 10% of that and invest that into something else and do it all over again. Due to my circumstances, I can manage up to 20%, but that's just me.

So, for example, I bring in $1000 every week at my job (I really don't, it's just an example). Before I spend that money on anything, I set aside a minimum of $100 into my savings account that will exist as a safety net. Then, I take (At most) $10 from that $100 and see what I can invest that money into that will make me even more money.
>>81784
Speaking of oil prices going up, look at what I found when researching some oil companies: https://archive.ph/cslZI
>Western Midstream and Occidental Sign Letter of Intent to Explore Carbon Capture, Transportation, Sequestration, and Utilization Opportunities
<Western Midstream Partners, LP (NYSE: WES) ("WES" or the "Partnership") today announced that it executed a letter of intent ("LOI") with a subsidiary of Occidental Petroleum Corporation (NYSE: OXY) ("Oxy"), with the objective of pursuing opportunities to produce and deliver low-carbon intensity oil and gas products to market through the development of carbon dioxide ("CO2") capture, transportation, utilization and sequestration opportunities in and around their existing asset bases in the Texas Delaware and Colorado DJ Basins.
<Under terms of the LOI, Oxy will explore installing carbon capture facilities on its upstream oil and gas activities, and WES will explore installing carbon capture facilities on its natural gas plants and other major gathering and treating facilities. WES would explore providing CO2 transportation services from the WES and Oxy carbon capture facilities to Oxy’s CO2 offtake delivery locations. Oxy would design, own, and operate new and existing CO2 offtake facilities for sequestration, enhanced oil recovery, or other utilization activities. Additionally, Oxy and WES intend to consider opportunities to provide these carbon management services to other point source emitters who are also interested in reducing their carbon emissions.
Why does this sound like just an excuse to charge more for a smaller quantity and lower quality oil?
If anyone cares at all, been do some amateur research regarding oil production, and have managed to find that companies fall into primarily four different categories, with some examples:
>Upstream: Exploration and Production 
<Abaraxas Petroluem Corp.
<ConocoPhillips
<Devon Energy Corp.
<Diversified Energy Co.
<Marathon Oil Corp.
<Nabors Industries Ltd.
<Occidental Petroleum Corp.
<Pioneer Natural Resources Co.
>Midstream: Pipelines, Process, Storage, Transportation
<Energy Transfer LP
<Kinder Morgan Inc.
>Downstream: Refineries and Distributors
<Marathon Petroleum Corp.
<Phillips 66
<Sunoco LP
<Valero Energy Corp.
>Gas (I separated these companies because they primarily handle natural gas rather than petroleum)
<Chesapeake Energy Corp.
<Ovintiv Inc.
<SandRidge Energy Inc.
<SM Energy Co.
>All (As in, they handle the entire process themselves)
<Chevron Corp.
<Exxon Mobil Corp.

The reason I wanted to list this off is because, if oil is going to rocket like people are predicting, a lot of these companies seem criminally undervalued.
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>UN Agency Wants Inflation to Be Fought With Price Controls, Windfall Taxes, Tighter Regulations
https://archive.ph/FLHAX
If EU countries want to be forever enslaved by the UN this is a good way to do it. They will destroy their energy sector and the government will swoop in to gain more power by nationalizing it. This was always the goal of the climate change agenda along with population control.

Assuming this goes down, this will destroy the economy in said country.
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>>81947
>Inflation to Be Fought With Price Controls
Question about silver:
If silver is such a hot commodity because of it's rarity and how important it is for electronics; in addition to have physical silver on hand, wouldn't it be a smart idea to invest money in the stocks of silver mining companies and refineries?
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>>82037
you can
but keep in mind the golden principle of if you don't hold it you don't own it
apply this concept to all of your assets and media and you will go far
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If people are not aware, there's also an aluminum and CO2 shortage: https://archive.ph/3hJ2W
>But as publications around the U.S. have noted, there are still supply chain issues, especially when it comes to a recent shortage of carbon dioxide and an ongoing shortage of aluminum cans.
>...
>“CO2 is a byproduct of ethanol and fertilizer,” Webb explained. “Ethanol production is in decline in the U.S. due to the federal government urging less use of fossil fuels and less U.S. production. Fertilizer production is down due to rising energy costs.”
>Another problem is the difficulty sourcing parts for repairs and maintenance, both for the plants that make CO2 and the trucks that deliver it.
https://archive.ph/Dbriv
>Carbon dioxide is use in many ways in food production, including beverage carbonization, modified-atmosphere packaging, stunning animals for slaughter, and cooling or freezing.
IOW, by the government's insistences to go "fully green", a by-product of this is that we can no longer bake, store, and ship food.
<I've yet to research aluminum smelters, but here's a list of "food grade" CO2 supplies in the U.S..
(Perhaps un)surprisingly, a number of them are gas companies like Chevron, Marathon Petrol, Phillips 66, and Valero.
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>>82087
CO2 is used a lot in production welding too, so a lot of shit produced domestically that involves any welding process that uses CO2 is probably going to get expensive as shit.
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required viewing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU&list=PLE88E9ICdiphYjJkeeLL2O09eJoC8r7Dc&index=1
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>>82319
Found other places where you can watch this:
https://rumble.com/c/HiddenSecretsofMoney
https://odysee.com/@blackcoffee0800:3/Hidden-Secrets-of-Money-by-Mike-Maloney:f
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What are some good /biz/ books? The only ones I really have are Walras' Elements of Theoretical Economics and Paul Getty's How to Be Rich.
>>82319
>>82333
Just wanted to let everyone know that the series is a waste of time!
Made it to episode 4 before shutting it off. The short of the series is "buy gold and silver" and nothing else. Everything else is either clever wording or miss construing the facts. Let me explain, In the fourth episode, he explains that the 16 amendment of the U.S. BoR "gave" the government the ability to tax people's income. It did not. Since the establishment of the U.S. constitution back in 1787, Article 1, Section 8 explicitly outlines that Congress has the ability to tax the citizens, but with the execution of said taxes never being infinite in their application and applied fairly throughout the land. Putting it another way, all federal taxes have a shelf life, and all federal taxes had to be a flat tax across the nation. And, it's only the states that have the real power when it comes to taxes. However, that all changed with the passage of the 16th amendment, which allowed the federal government the ability to create unlimited taxes on whatever they wanted.

But, okay, that's just "one" issue. Where does the problem arise? Well, further into the episode, he says, and I quote: https://rumble.com/vm6i8k-hidden-secrets-of-money-episode-4-biggest-scam-in-history-of-mankind-mike-m.html
>The founding fathers of the United States knew the dangers of central banking and fought to free themselves from this very thing. The Revolutionary War was started out as a tax revolt. But, now, we must pay tax just to have a monetary system.
This is completely misconstruing the fact that the American colonies were NOT taxed because of some central bank, but because England was using all that money to finance their exploits in the Far East. But, that's neither here nor there, so let's move on...
>Having just suffered through the hyperinflation of the continental dollar, which was printed into oblivion to finance the Revolutionary War, they understood the dangers of fiat currency and a debt-based monetary system. So, to protect future generations from institutional theft and out of control government, they wrote into the constitution that only gold and silver can be money for the simple fact that you cannot print them.
Except the ACTUAL constitution never states. You want to know what it DOES state? Returning to A1S8: https://archive.ph/H0slv#a1_sec8
>The Congress shall have Power...To coin Money
So, where does this line about "gold and silver" come in? A couple paragraphs down in section 10. And, I'll post the entire paragraph so that you can see the context: https://archive.ph/H0slv#a1_sec10
<No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
In other words, only the federal government can  create and recognize money, and the only alternative for the states is to refer back to gold and silver if they wish to dispute this state of affairs.

As far as alternatives, the vids I can really provide is this PSA from the 40's explaining what money is and how it came to be: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uUXgWV2hzuo
And, this video explaining what happened to the dollar over the past century: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WT4-e9xpin4
Still have yet to find a video that explains how money comes into existence under the U.S. government, and actually EXPLAINS it.
To the Anon who recommended Turd Flinging Monkey:
Why did you do that? It seems more like the guy is an economist second and a philosophy major first.
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>>83422
Because his advice is pretty sound when it comes to the basics of economics and the austrian/chicago school of economics. He also explains things in a manner where even a completely economically illiterate grandma could comprehend economic subjects that are "too hard" to learn. Since anons here wanted to learn more about economics and investing, I thought his material would help. I enjoy his philosophy stuff but that's not why I recommended him nor do I expect people to look into it.
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>Last year, Nigeria launched its much-ballyhooed eNaira, Africa’s first central bank digital currency (CBDC).
>The jury is now in.
>The eNaira has been a massive failure.

Imagine that you only need a bunch of niggers to put a wrench in globalists plan.

https://archive.ph/EJVrV/ https://financialunderground.com/articles/another-big-cbdc-flop/

tl;dr: Nigerians knows what's up and preferred using actual decentralized digital currency, bitcoin in this instance.
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>>83428
>I enjoy his philosophy stuff but that's not why I recommended him nor do I expect people to look into it.
It's a little hard not to when he bridges from economics into philosphy. Let me paraphrase a coupel of examples:
>The reason why we're suffering from inflation is due to the welfare state that started in 1935 and has been printing endless money ever since, which is the reason why the U.S. hopped off of gold onto Brenton Woods, and then onto the Petrodollar, and then onto our current existence of just having the U.S. dollar being the literal fiat world reserve currency with nothing but the government's word backing it as said welfare now encompasses 75% of the government's budget.
>Clearly, the solution to solve all of this is the end welfare.
<Nope, you're wrong, the issue is to blame women, who didn't enter the American workforce en masse until the 1970's, after Nixon ended Brenton Woods.
And:
>A strong identity is part of what's needed to survive and thrive in the world as a group, as said identity benefits the culture and economics.
>Such identities are typically the result of past tyrannies experienced, and people collectively remembering that they don't want to experience that every again.
<However, nowhere at any point in history have white people ever suffered any hardship nor tyranny as they've always been the "majority".
<And, all global powers in all of history have been a multi-cultural multi-ethnic nation as white people don't have enough of an identity to rule the world.

>>83430
>Imagine that you only need a bunch of niggers to put a wrench in globalists plan.
Doubt it. All that they need to do is outlaw any currency that hasn't be distributed by their central bank and things will go along swimmingly. FDR did a similar thing in '33 to outlaw gold: https://infogalactic.com/info/Executive_Order_6102
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>>83431
Politics and economics are heavily tied together. Understanding these things is part of why the teachings of the Chicago School of economics is important. It's looking at an economy under government influence. Even if you were looking at an economy of a country with the idea of just comparing you the boons and banes of companies doing certain things, you must also consider what said countries leaders might do under certain stimuli. Like how the US government is influencing the commodities sector just for the midterm election.

>...the issue is to blame women, who didn't enter the American workforce en masse until the 1970's, after Nixon ended Brenton Woods.
This isn't a contradiction. Realistically, most countries around the world will never take women's rights away. Considering that they're the biggest voters of welfare due to female nature, you have to remove their rights to even begin to tackle the welfare problem. What are other options? We can look at other countries to see who took women's rights away. They have been heavily religious countries who won't put up with women's shit (like we just saw with Afghanistan last year). Countries that went communist/socialist (this spells doom for your country). Western countries aren't heavily religious and most aren't willing to go full socialist at the moment (I know price control might be on the way for EU though). So how will you realistically remove welfare? People still believe is the scam that is social security even though the money you get from it is pitiful. Minorities like black males and hispanics are now voting red but women nearly universally want welfare no matter the ethnicity, despite the high prices these days. Especially black and white women in the USA. Politicians being elected with the campaign on removing welfare would never win. So at that point you would need to be a politician who have enough elites backing him who would be willing to run on what's popular and then do a 180 and remove welfare while also having many elites backing him so he won't immediately be voted out of office.

I don't see a scenario of that ever happening. So a stagnation and everyone suffering is the only route that I see that's realistic for the American economy at this point.
>>83442
Things went to hell when people stopped working for themselves and sold their labor to ((( capitalists ))), who exploited, used, and abused them so they could be preyed on the rebound by ((( communists ))).
Again, Thomas Jefferson had the right idea. Everyone should just be a farmer.
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>>83458
False. 
Things went to shit when people stopped living with the expectation that they'd be capable of opening their own business through their labor within a decade or so of working.  
Distributism is the way. Three acres and a cow as the ideal farmer, and self-governing local guilds for craftsmen. Local rule. 
The HRE was the best time and place humanity has had, and it shall return, in time.
>>83442
>What are other options?
End the welfare!
Taking away women's rights isn't going to do jack when the welfare and all the remaining laws are still in place. All it will do is drag out the amount of time it will take for a collapse to happen.
>So how will you realistically remove welfare?
You realistically can't until you slaughter all of the Socialists since they're the ones that started the mess of demanding that the government provide people with the "Right to exist". 
> So a stagnation and everyone suffering is the only route that I see that's realistic for the American economy at this point.
It's preferable to the alternative of people going full ancap and start the fracturing of the U.S. as warlords start taking over regions.
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>>83458
The people didn't sell their labor to capitalists (or whatever you're trying to imply whatever group this may be). Instead you had big business getting bailed out by the government. Over time these industries began absorbing everything around them. It's not a case of people selling themselves but rather government interfering with the free market.

As for the farmer thing, you can have that but understand that over time your country will be behind in both military and technology. Your country will become prey to other countries that are more advance in tech. Basically, you would be Ukraine right before it was taken over by the USSR. Ukraine never completely recovered from the famine caused by the USSR and decades later it became one of the most corrupt nations in the world (thanks to the US as well).
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>>83442
>People still believe is the scam that is social security
Also, reports do keep popping up every so often about politicians desiring to cut Social Security: https://archive.ph/53HWd
You may rightfully consider it blood money, but I'd call fb/meta a buy right now
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>Creature from Jekyll Island Audiobook [Opus].zip
https://pixeldrain.com/u/yPzQseCd

I haven't posted in ages. Stopped paying attention to stocks when I sold my stuff recently. I'll try getting back into posting more. In the mean time, here's a sub 500MB of The Creature from Jekyll Island Audiobook. A nice entry into economics and why the current system is fucked. You'll learn about the meaning of economics, the point and types of money, banking vs central banking, central banking's failed attempts in America (3 times), the Federal Reserve, inflation, some of the big money influencing the world wars, League of Nations, The Report from Iron Mountain and more.
Decided to finally take my money out of ethereum at a loss after everything thats happened with FTX and most exchanges. Decentralized finance/anarchocapitalism is basically a pipe dream and has no future as far as I can tell. 

I feel like a retard for buying into the idea that a trustless solution like ETH could work.
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>>85270
>Decentralized finance/anarchocapitalism is basically a pipe dream and has no future as far as I can tell. 
No, it's that you idiots paid for WoW tokens and PSO Meseta, declaring how it was to be the "future" of money to have data be your currency, and then were surprised that the idea failed because math equations have no value to anyone that isn't on the autism spectrum.
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>>85271
what the fuck are you even talking about nigger? I'm not even going to compare crypto with in-game digital goods because even a retard knows theres a difference. I'm not even sure what this post is trying to say.
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>>85278
>I'm not even going to compare crypto with in-game digital goods because even a retard knows theres a difference.
Yeah, one has value in that you can actually use it to buy and sell goods in it's appropriate video game, meanwhile the other has no value beyond what a bunch of numbers on a computer screen says.
>I'm not even sure what this post is trying to say.
There are other things you can use. Hell, gold, silver, and copper coins are not at all hard to buy. However, good luck at convincing someone to use them over cash.
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>>85280
Nobody will use them as currency for the foreseeable future, all you can do is store it. Plus, ppl hoarding gold are doing so as a hedge, not an alternative to fiat.
Bitcoin, despite everything that happened, is still selling at $15k~ and there are some online storefronts accepting it but who knows how long that will last. Its still somewhat useful currently as opposed to literal game currency.
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>>85281
The problem I largely have with crypto is that it's value is derived by the same process from which the people praising it then proceed to deride federal reserve notes, the value of both is entirely from faith that it "means" something. Even saying that Monero is "useful" means little to me as I there's nothing backing it. It doesn't have any face value. And, it doesn't help that there isn't a simple process, for the currency part, where I can take my money, convert it into the cryptocurrency I want, immediately send it to someone, have them receive it, and convert it back into their own money without having to play musical chairs for security or rely upon the same payment processors people are trying to flee or account for the "transaction" tax that occurs with crypto.
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>BlackRock — the world’s largest asset manager — says central banks are 'deliberately' causing recessions, warns of a downturn unlike any other.
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>>85282
Not entirely true. Fiat currency depends on two things - the stability of the country (this includes the economy, but isn't limited to it) issuing it, and supply/demand.  
The problem with fiat is that the country's stability is not a given at all, given retarded politicians, and the supply depends entirely on nobody hitting the printer switch.   
In most cryptos, these problems are nonexistent, as they're going to exist as long as the internet does - read, as long as there is no civilization-ending event, in which case nothing will matter much anymore - and it's not issued at will of any one person.  
As for it not being backed by anything, some cryptos, like ETH are effectively backed by its use-cases, like smart contracts.
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>>85348
I don't think any crypto can over-take a country's fiat currency, especially the US dollar becuase of those reasons you've mentioned also. The fact that the government has control over the Federal Reserve is a huge part of their power. Giving that up would make them virtually impotent towards funding of their agendas. 
The other problem I see with it being the dominant currency is the need for regulation.  The fact that a lot of people in the past 2-3 years that jumped on the train has probably been rug-pulled once or scammed in some capacity without any recourse is a joke. I'm not saying there should or shouldn't be regulation - but the systems that are in place to prevent/punish fraud are necessary to any good economy. 
>As for it not being backed by anything, some cryptos, like ETH are effectively backed by its use-cases, like smart contracts.
This is a good point. I know that in Sia's case, the decentralized storage that uses the SiaCoin as payment, the use-case and the currency are closely tied. Users use the coin to pay others for 'storage space' and vice versa. I don't know anywhere where the coin is useful besides this ecosystem but thats how it works.
Going to Japan this September for two weeks how much money should I bring and any advice?
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Spend $5000 on watermelons from the US at ~$8-$10 each and bring those with you to Japan. This is a little known technique known as the Watamelon-Exchange. You will be able to exchange this for a net profit of 10x and reap approximately $50,000 which should be enough to last you a weekend in Japan.
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>>86008
this but australia during summer
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Trading in equities is very hard now. Given the recent, good macro news, spy's fairly reasonably priced, and the truly important data on the effects of the rate hikes on the economy and whether we'll get a recession is still months away. I think there'll be a boring period of limited volatility for the first quarter. Tough times for a swing trader that likes buying weekly index options.
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>>88664
What did Brandon do this time?
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>>88665
It's the usual: the US has hit its debt ceiling again. No default yet but Congress only has until roughly June to figure something out.
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>>88668
I find it funny that people were like oh man we got stuck with all this debt that Trump got us into, mean while brandon has literally doubled that shit, not to mention every single president before that.
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>>88671
> oh man we got stuck with all this debt
It never ceases to amaze me that NO ONE in the public sphere figures that we should probably see about paying that off.
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>>88672
There is no "paying it off," anon. It is unrepayable by design, that's how usury works.
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>>88716
It can be paid off, but requires the entire way the government works to be upended (Regarding the people in charge, not how it works, aside from ending a couple laws). A lot of the debt can be wiped away by simply by telling the various foreign governments that we mutually forgive their debt owed to us if they forgive the same amount of we owe them. After that, then proceed to invest government money towards projects that make a profit internationally. Essentially, the government has to literally operate like a business in order to wipe away the debt.
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>>88730
The word usury means lending money with unreasonably high interest rates. The only way to pay back loans like this is by not borrowing money from those lenders.
>>88730
>It can be paid off, but requires something that will never happen
lolk so it can't be paid off.
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What the fuck is going on with SVB? Here's what I'm seeing on it:
>Silicon Valley Bank: Biggest failure since 2008 financial crisis as US regulators close bank and seize assets
https://archive.ph/08LLb
>Crypto Shaken as SVB Exposure Depegs $37 Billion Stablecoin
https://archive.ph/NbmPl
>Investors implore the government to step in after Silicon Valley Bank failure
https://archive.is/vuZdR
>Hundreds of startups face a crippling cash crunch and an 'extinction-level event' if no one buys Silicon Valley Bank by Monday
https://archive.is/zYkBa
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>>89713
From what I know:
- SVB has a bunch of tech startup and customers that have uninsured deposit in the order of +93%
- 78% of those deposits were in Mortgage-Backed Securities
- Those securities has about 5 year duration
- With the incoming rapid increased rate, rather than swap their securities for hedge, they did the opposite (??) and had no hedge
- The tech companies that put money in SVB then needed cash, due to Bidenflation, and made the accounting problems more apparent
- About 1 month ago, CEO and other higher up cashed in by selling their stocks and Friday employees got a bonus just before regulators seized the bank.
Other fun details:
- Cramer said 1 week ago to invest in SVB
- Forbes shilled them as being the hot bank, after FTX shilling, and the Elizabeth Holmes shilling.
- Main branch had no Chief Risk Officer for 9 months until January, and the one in UK was focused on LGBT initiatives
So, it's morning, a few hours after everything openned. And, at least based on my investments, the stock market isn't in total chaos. Granted, all of my stocks are in oil, metals, and grain.
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>>89768
Look at how banks are doing. Shit's on fire.  
Trading has been halted for multiple bank stocks, but that just means the contagion is spreading faster as everyone that can't sell their stock of Bank A is selling any other bank stock they have because of how shit the outlook is. 

One wrong move by the government and this is a Black Monday. And the guy in charge sometimes forgets how to even exit a stage.
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>>89769
So, it's only the banking sector that's being effected. But, once things start to go into other sectors (As the banks will eventually have to sell some stock), it will go (Even if it's not banking stock)?

Also, just to make sure I understand this correctly: The reason why a bank run is so disasterous is because banks only keep a fraction of their money on reserve that's been deposited in the bank, with the rest of the money either being loaned out or put into stocks. With a bank run, the banks have to get all of that money back and fast. Seeing as how they can't get it from the loans they made out, that only leaves their stocks as the only source of money to give back. And, as a knock-on effect of the banks selling all these stocks to give the depositors their money, it results in the stock market taking a dive due to the massive sell off. Is that correct?
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>>89770
Partially. The stock side is only one problem though. The other is liquidity.  
Companies will struggle to have the liquidity to pay their employees because they can't take short term loans from banks that don't have money, and long term loans can get much pricier or called in, depending on how bad the terms are. And, of course, employees can't take use their money if their bank doesn't have it either.  

The big problem is, all these banks give giant, enormous loans to each other all the time. That's why when you see one bank fall, ten others are shaky. And now multiple banks are blatantly failing. We can't really know how bad things are, but we know there are big loans that have no chance of payment, we just don't exactly know where yet.
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>>89771
So, sometime within the next few days, someone is going to he unable to make their loan payment, and it will all come crashing down?
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>>89772
Probably not that fast. The fed is scrambling to perform damage control and mitigation in hopes of preventing a 2008 level crash. It could also get rolled into the "cyber pandemics" schwab was talking about that would provide the crisis needed to shoehorn in CBDC.
The short of it is: get to stacking precious metals if you haven't begun already.
>>89772
Depends on precisely how incompetent the government is. I wouldn't bet on Biden suddenly tripling his competency, so it's entirely possible. But things rarely crash that spectacularly, more likely, it's going to be a slow bleed over a month or more.
Holy shit.
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>>89794
What happened now?
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>>89811
Credit Suisse is in trouble
Out of curiosity, if a stock is at some 50%+ above what I bought it for, should I look into selling it?
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>>89853
depends on timeframe, how much you need the money, and if your original thesis still holds up.

Easy example is apple. In 1990 it would've been about 30 cents a share. 2000, about $1. 2003, back down to 25 cents. 2010, about $5. In 2020 March it was $60. In august it peaked at $125. September down to $100. Now 3 years later its $150 despite peaking at 180 in December 2021.

If you bought (or didn't sell) at $1 before the dotcom crash or $125 in september 2020, you experienced some big short term losses, but if you're just holding forever in a retirement account, you should only be asking if the reason you bought it in the first place still makes sense. (That and if you want to pay taxes on your gains.)
What's this I hear about Swiss and French banks now collapsing?
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>>89866
Credit Suisse hasn't been in a good place for a while now. The CEO being silly (and by that I mean mindbreaking people by having them gangstalked unschizophrenically for a dispute over construction noise, which culminated in a car chase through downtown Zurich), which led to trust issues, and multiple less funny scandals, like not having enough separation between the sales department and the wealth manager department, leading to them dumping shit deals on clients... which the ultra-rich don't play well with.  
Essentially, the point of Swiss banks is staid swiss conservatism making them very stable, safe banks. Then Credit Suisse started huffing American ideas and gambling, while UBS stayed sane. Over the last year, a quarter of CS clients made the switch. Thus, CS is fucked. I wouldn't trust the Swiss government saying they'll prop em up either. Much like Prussia was an army with a government, Switzerland is a few banks with a government. In the last quarter of 2022, CS had liabilities of 673 billion. Swiss GDP is 800 billion. As in, the bank is as large as the country. If CS lacks more than pocket cash, it's fucked beyond repair. And it does, losing 28% of customers in a year means having to sell an asston of assets to pay them back their money, and this wasn't exactly a winning year in finance. No way they sold at par. 

As for the French, I can only assume terminal frenchery is responsible. Who trusts the hairy baguetteguzzlers with money?
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>>89875
Will this have any impact on the SVB situation?
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>>89878
It is more the other way around. SVB failing made a situation for those banks (and more then just the swiss and the french). And the SVB situation is now really a USA situation, so enjoy the ride.
>>89914
>First pic
So, they're going to "save" the collapsing financial system, that's the result of them injecting several trillion dollars over the past three years into the marketing,...by injecting another 2 trillion dollars into the market?
>And the SVB situation is now really a USA situation, so enjoy the ride.
So, the only financial collapse that's going to happen is with the U.S. and as the EU feds "saved" their banks? Wait, isn't going to still rebound and effect them due to the U.S. dollar being the world's reserve currency?
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>>89915
That was more or less my point, the SVD problem is a USD problem. And I didn't want to get into geopolitics, and petrodollar. But yes, the west as a whole, unless they are willing to pull an Iceland, are in for a ride.
>>89914
>those eyes
He is not human.
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/biz/ I need financial help, my lease is up soon and I am being pressured into buying a home but I am not in the best state for taxes and housing prices. Should I go for a third year of renting with the expectation that the big crunch depression will strike soon or should I buy a house for the investment it serves both financially and physically?
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>>89914
Wait where are they getting this 2 trillion dollars from? Are you telling me they're going to print another 2 trillion dollars when inflation is already going berserk?
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>>89933
Keep renting and save your money for the next few years. Keep an eye on the housing market(daily/weekly) and wait for the proverbial dip to come. If recent events didn't make it aware, the USD market is about to be in for a really bad time. Wait for it to bottom out, and hopefully by that time you have enough saved up to get a good house with money to spare.
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>>89936
I think I already know the answer but is there a guarantee that the "dip" will come? How can I be more certain when a market reaches that "bottom"?
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>>89937
You don't, you guess or just have a general idea of when you're going to buy in. If everyone could guess the dip everyone would be billionaires.
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>>89938
Figured, but it will at least be lower than it is now, right?
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>>89938
>If everyone could guess the dip everyone would be billionaires.
rofl no, billionaires like that are created out of others' losses.  It's a zero-sum game.
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>>89939
noone knows
>>89954
>It's a zero-sum game.
You're right that there's not an infinite amount of wealth, but even the housing market isn't a zero sum game. The utility (and price) of Housing/land appreciates in value partially based on location/development/etc.  Without going into urban/rural arguments, simple stuff like having nearby hospitals, schools, and such nearby still raise the value of your property. So in addition to scarcity/inflation reasons, land values rise based on the QoL and economy of their communities.
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Planing a trip to Japan with four friends next year. How much spending money should I bring to Japan? We'll be in Tokyo and Kyoto mostly.
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>>92805
Probably several thousands.
Japan is expensive.
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>>92809
Gonna be there 15 days.
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>>92810
Depends on what you're doing, where you're staying and what you want to buy as with all Vacations. Generally you should actually have a hard plan on how much your accommodation and activities are going to cost and  go from there.
>>92805
Just make sure that you can make a withdraw from your bank while you're there. Budget wise, just double whatever you think you'd need. That way you can splurge if you see something cool or account for emergencies.
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>>92812
We are bringing around 2.5k each but I'm unsure if that will be enough.
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>>92813
Yeah that definitely sounds lacking, just for any 1st world country in general unless you don't plan on doing too much
Consider how much transportation, food, and shelter will cost
If you can get a travel package or something to reduce costs (especially for group travel), that should alleviate it
Merchandise/souvenirs are expensive, and everything in a major city like Tokyo/Kyoto will be expensive
Look into hotel costs there and what events and cool places will cost, as well as accounting for any unforeseen fees
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>>92816
Saved about 4.2 k now.
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Thank your local brown anime girl for putting the /biz/ thread back in business.
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I am tempted to shit this thread up out of spite, I am mad as fuck right now to be honest.
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>>97071
I've been too broke for the last few months to really be paying attention to the economy. It's hitting stagflation and the everything is just going to go up in price and will be for years on end and who knows how strong the dollar will be over the years. So now I'm moving to a cheaper location and going to learn some new skills so I can sustain myself through the hard times. 

Here's one thing I've learned about while being poor and that's that the American workforce is packed full of incompetent people and therefor the solution to most problems is DIY. If you're working trades, you can charge people plenty to fix things these days because there are so many people you can't trust to do a decent job. As for myself, I plan to learn a remote skill that pays well. Cyber security is a good example. Once I get a comfortable income I'll and have over 10k saved up again I can start getting into investing again. Until then, I'm not spending much and focusing on saving.

>>97076
Here's a cute loli to calm your nerves.
Reviving this thread!
So, anyone have any opinions about the upcoming year? Is this guy on course or off his rocker declaring that everything will crash: https://archive.ph/QPmHm
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>amd approaching 200
I remember holding lots of shares at 6. I would have been rich if i'd just held.
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>>101086
Yeah, you were an impatient dumbfuck, but don't worry anon, we all make mistakes.
Actually making money through them requires time or a massive amount of research and understanding, you can't just hope for a lottery.
So, should I dump all my stocks and buy nothing but precious metals: https://www.americauncovered.tv/america-uncovered-episodes/more-banks-are-failing.-what-you-need-to-know.
Or should I just not even worry about it?
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>>101114
The situation that's being described is almost apocalyptic.
You'd be better off buying property, weapons, supplies, and yes, some precious metals couldn't hurt (but not silver)
For the "short-term" (e.g. before the collapse), things like mutual/index funds are probably fine.
>>101116
Not him but why not silver? If I spread my money out over the other stuff I'll have enough for maybe 2 ounces of gold. I already have plenty of weapons/ammo but my food stores could use a lot of replenishment and I'm not about to dump that much into a couple pieces of metal.
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>>101124
Silver is the most shorted precious metal.
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>>101116
>For the "short-term" (e.g. before the collapse), things like mutual/index funds are probably fine.
I'm hesitant about that because of ESG "Stakeholder Metrics" being integrated into every large company: https://archive.ph/bQfy0
So I prefer the freedom of investing in individual options.

>>101124
>>101131
How about copper, then?
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>>101131
that's what makes it a good deal

>>101142
copper premiums are fucked
Could someone check me on something: why is the stock price on UAMY so low?

For those who don't know, antimony is the most important metal today as it's used in everything (Even more than gold/silver/platinum), from weapons (Since WWII) to renewable tech. So you'd think that suppliers of it would be making big bucks right about now with wars breaking out everywhere and the push for green tech. However, the sole domestic supplier of antimony in the U.S., UAMY, has seen their stock price in constant decline for the past few years (After peaking the day that Russia began their invasion of Ukraine). Now, accord to the media, the actual metal peaked in price three weeks ago: https://archive.ph/wjgvn
But the company's stock price (Currently at $0.225) is the lowest it's been since 2017 ($0.22).

Why? If there's a bunch if wars going on and green policies are being pushed through despite public outcry, shouldn't they be making money hand over fist and be in high demand?
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> JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon Sells $125 Million of Stock
<Jamie Dimon sold $125 million of JPMorgan stock through a plan, while his wife Judith Kent sold $25 million of stock.
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<JPMorgan Chase (JPM.N) CEO Jamie Dimon has sold about $150 million of his shares in the bank, a SEC filing showed on Thursday, marking the first time the head of the largest US lender has sold shares since taking charge in 2005.
https://archive.is/BWZVf

I take it we're going to be in a world of hurt this year (If not the next).
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>>101142
>I'm hesitant about that because of ESG "Stakeholder Metrics" being integrated into every large company: https://archive.ph/bQfy0
Jumping off of this, I decided to look up the companies involed with things like coal mining and utilities, and just discovered that every single company in the fucking market either has several pages on their websites all devoted to Sustainability, ESG, and/or DEI. Here is my question: should I swallow my pride and buy stocks in these companies anyway, continue looking for companies that don't have those policies in place, or is there a third option that I'm not aware of? AFAIK, the "closest" I can think of for a third option is buying stocks, and using my voting power (Altough greatly miniscule) to vote out the people putting these policies in place. In addition to this, in the event of the latter two, what about the companies that I already have stock in and have since adopted those policies after I bought their stock? 

The reasoning I'm rather worried is that I'm looking at how the baizuo want to sink the entire modern world, basically forcing companies to commit suicide in order to achieve this, and don't want to "lose everything" if/when these companies go belly up for destroying their industries.
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>>101671
>sole domestic supplier
Question the internal management policies then. Monopolies have their usual quirks if the cumulative weight of various inefficiencies exceeds the threshold of common sense.
>>102766
The US, and the EU (along with others) currently are run by ideologues. That means free money from the government, or access to contracts if they have the sustainability/esg nonsense laid out. It also takes time for policies, mandates to flow through. It's only recently that the finance shops started dropping (part of) their devotion to esg. As this year is looking like it will be rough, and pet projects that siphon money into activist blackholes aren't as attractive. 
The third option is putting your money in not-stocks right now if you feel the market is going to drop this year, which isn't a bad conclusion when you look at all the richfags selling.
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>>102779
I second this anon's suggestion of avoiding stocks, most banks have funds that only invest very little in stocks and have been doing ok, you can look out for those. They also offer funds that only invest in bonds and instruments, and those are all really safe, each individual fund from every bank has its own policy about this and it's explicit and & mandatory, search for one that you agree with. Maybe your region has private pools available too, for example small finance firms here have pools for livestock and corn futures, just look for something that can't fuck up around you. Many places have been taking their own trust funds away from ESG, like japan and ecuador that I know of, and it shouldn't be super hard to put money in those same funds. Or look up what they are putting money in now (I think it's mostly juicier bonds from semi-respectable sources or shorter term negotiables and options) and directly invest in the same thing yourself. Nintendo, Kadokawa, and Toyota should be doing ok 1 year into the future, but we're kinda back to your original problem with those.
That's all what I'd look for, in that order, depending on your own risk aversion and stuff.
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>>102779
>The third option is putting your money in not-stocks right now if you feel the market is going to drop this year, which isn't a bad conclusion when you look at all the richfags selling.
You mean like index funds, ETFs, and futures for commodities?

>>102784
>They also offer funds that only invest in bonds
Isn't the bond market currently in a nose dive?
>and instruments, and those are all really safe, each individual fund from every bank has its own policy about this and it's explicit and & mandatory, search for one that you agree with
Could you further detail waht you mean?
>Or look up what they are putting money in now (I think it's mostly juicier bonds from semi-respectable sources or shorter term negotiables and options) and directly invest in the same thing yourself.
Aside from just outright buying precious metals, the closest thing I've been hearing is to look at index funds and dividends. And the companies making solar panels that are NOT shit Chinkware. What have you heard?
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What are the restrictions placed upon foriegners when investing in Japanese companies?
>>102796
>pic
I don't understand why buying metals makes people so upset. They automatically assume a whole bunch of wild shit and think it's all you do with your money, it's as if the mere concept of diversifying your investments is beyond them.
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>>103075
>I don't understand why buying metals makes people so upset.
I think it's because it's often that the "craziest" people are the one's voices are amplified and that's all that they hear. So they associate everything have to do with buying gold as relating to those morons. That's not to mention that there's no true economics course that's ever taught in the United States.
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>>103078
>the true unfalsifiable pseudoscientific navel -gazing discipline has never been tried!
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>>103101
I was talking about economic rules such as the gold standard. Or concepts like the Cashflow Quadrant. Not Marxist theory that believes that the world is subjective, that there's economic wizards who can wave a wand to change everything, nor that we can achemically turn lead into gold.
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>>103110
Your myopic faith in a gold standard is exactly as fantastical as turning lead into gold.  States have switched on and off of precious metal standards frequently throughout history and it didn't magically collapse their economies.
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>>103122
>States have switched on and off of precious metal standards frequently throughout history and it didn't magically collapse their economies.
Except all these times: https://archive.ph/3DgTY
And these times: https://archive.ph/I20hm
<AND these times: https://archive.is/NuBVo
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>>103123
>source: bitcoin hucksters
Imagining what a deluded yuppie like yourself must have been like during the Savings & Loans crisis is a source of great entertainment for me.
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To whoever it may concern, I made a template spreadsheet for the purposes of tracking stock dividends.
https://files.catbox.moe/d3947b.ods

It's broken down across three pages, the first is reserved for stocks you already own, the second is for stocks your intending to buy, and the third is the second sheet except for foreign stocks (Japan for the purposes of this template, and since we're an anime site).

I organized this document the way I did for the purposes of figuring our which stocks will generate a dividend revenue of $1200 per year ($100 monthly). This is done by calculating the stock's current price (As of today), the total annual dividends (Based on the dividends given out during 2023), and how many shares you need to buy (And how much it would cost) to have receive that $100 monthly income. JUST for the purposes of showing how this works, I used the companies owning the NASDAQ and NYSE (And the TSE) so you can see how it works.

Some caveats though. On the first page, it's organized for the purposes of showing how much money you're earning from the stocks your already own, in addition to how many more you need to get that "$100 monthly" goal. On the third page, there's some additional categories listed, such accounting for currency conversions and additional requirements (In the case of Japan, foreign investors need to buy a minimum of 100 shares, plus the ¥3000 brokerage commission in my case).

Here are some additional resources you'll need. For looking up dividends of American stocks, the Nasdaq website is a good source as each company profile lists the company's dividend history (Take not of the last time they paid out dividends): https://www.nasdaq.com/
For foreign stocks and their dividends, just go to the stock exchange website of each appropriate country you're looking to buy stock in. In this instance, the TSE: https://www.jpx.co.jp/english/listing/co-search/index.html
And a currency converter website to figure out the conversion rate of whatever currency to Freedom Bucks: https://www1.oanda.com/currency/converter/

Hope this helps, and any suggestions you have as far as "improving" it?
>>103127
At least he provided proof of his claims.
Also without a single exception every fiat currency has eventually gone to zero and become totally worthless. The dollar has held out longer than most because of the whole petrodollar/debnts pyramid scheme, but that won't last forever and considering how much I have to pay for far fewer groceries compared to just two years ago I don't have much faith in the dollar right now.
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>For the first seven months of fiscal year 2024, which began last October, net interest payments totaled $514 billion
>Budget analysts think that trend will continue, making 2024 the first year ever that the United States will spend more on interest payments than on national defense.
Good luck burgers
>>105004
why don't they just nuke whoever they're in debt to?
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>>105004
It is insane how much Biden, and his puppeteers, could fuck the global economy and even infantilize the power of America in the eyes of everyone. Printing trillions, losing 4 wars, losing an economic war, killing the Petrodollar economy, draining the oil reserves, spreading lab viruses to kill poultry, ruining the commodities market with market manipulation, and flooding the borders just to fight inflation that you caused. If I had it may way,  I would make a live event where everyone responsible is fed to wild animals.
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>>105006
Only like 25% of the debt is offshore. Most of the debt is to shit like (American) banks, pensions, the fed, etc last time I checked.
>>105004
Nobody ever thinks debt is a problem until it is.
>They're the same
No they aren't, Yahoo. Fucking journos. Biden's plan is "I got mine, fuck you!" while Trump's plan can be summed up as "we WILL default, so let's shore up American industry before that happens."

>>105006
It's complicated. The oversimplified version is that the united states government is shorting the American people while foreign investors are bulls throwing money into the economy against the short sells. While the debt is "owned" by foreign nationals ands bondsholders, those foreign nationals and bonds holders are the only thing propping up the value of the dollar against total global civilizational collapse (outside of Eastern Europe).
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>>105012
So basically Trump's plan is to make the collapse of the globohomo empire slower and more agonizing for everyone while Biden's plan is to accelerate at full speed with no seatbelts?
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>>103707
>without a single exception every fiat currency has eventually gone to zero and become totally worthless
Wow, that's interesting. I didn't know there were no fiat currencies in use today.
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>>105029
Fiat is like gommunism. All those other hundreds of times it failed were just flukes.
>>105009
Two things, Anon. First, Brandon and his friends are not doing anything new that every other country pushing a fiat currency has done. Second, part of this is intentional. Groups like Open Societies and even the United Nations have openly expressed that in order for a "better world" to be achieved (Agenda 2030), the U.S. needs to be destroyed because it exists in direct opposition to their "grand Socialist utopia".

>>105012
>Nobody ever thinks debt is a problem until it is.
There are some people who think that you can just print more money, and that solves "all" problems.

>>105021
The "Globohomo" empire has nothing to do with Trump.
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>>105035
In what ways does the US oppose that socialist agenda? More importantly, what difference does it make what your country's economic system is when your nation has been conquered by sadistic jewish billionaires? Is anything Trump promises going to stop them from using their control of the media, school curriculum, medical industry and FDA/food industry to turn tens of millions of kids into eunuchs and sodomites and tens of millions of adults into prescription drug addicts and sickly obese abominations? Is he going to do anything about the nigger problem other than give them more welfare like he did in his first term? Is he going to do anything about the immigration problem other than make it easier for them to become citizens legally so he can say "look, there are no illegals hopping the border anymore!" as the US becomes <45% white?
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>>105040
>In what ways does the US oppose that socialist agenda?
The way that Capitalism actually makes life good for people, and produces the goods people want, and puts control of your life in your own hands. Western Socialists have been realizing this and declaring it since the 60's when they saw how Socialism only ever "succeeded" in struggling and third world nations but never in the developed and thriving countries.
>More importantly, what difference does it make what your country's economic system is when your nation has been conquered by sadistic jewish billionaires?
Since when have Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates been Kikes?
>Is anything Trump promises going to stop them from using their control of the media, school curriculum, medical industry and FDA/food industry to turn tens of millions of kids into eunuchs and sodomites and tens of millions of adults into prescription drug addicts and sickly obese abominations?
<Is making murder illegal really going to stop people murderung other people?
>Is he going to do anything about the nigger problem other than give them more welfare like he did in his first term?
What are you talking about? Poverty rates for niggers under Trump were the lowest they had ever been: https://archive.ph/yDzP6
With nigger business owners skyrocketing: https://archive.ph/oWTFv
>Is he going to do anything about the immigration problem other than make it easier for them to become citizens legally so he can say "look, there are no illegals hopping the border anymore!" as the US becomes <45% white?
You're just going to constantly spout "Muh Zog" as your arguments, aren't you? Regardless of anything that every actually occured and just to stiffle discussion to shut people up. Do us a favor and fuck off.
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>>105043
>Since when have Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates been Kikes?
100% of non-jew billionaires are philosemitic, or at least pretend to be. Why do you think that is?
>Is making murder illegal really going to stop people murderung other people?
So he's going to throw his hands up and say the judges/democrats won't let him do anything he pretends to want to do again for 4 more years? Other than bipartisan things like banning bump stocks, repealing section 230, increasing police funding, making it illegal to criticize jews or boycott Israel, etc. of course.
>nigger business owners skyrocketing
Did nigger violent crime rates go down? Did people get any freedom of association to not allow niggers in their businesses or neighborhoods?
>just to stiffle discussion to shut people up. Do us a favor and fuck off.
Like you're doing right now with your non-arguments? You'll get what you think you want this November anyway, it's obvious why ((( they ))) gave Twitter to Musk and slightly loosened censorship in general. They want the US to be more "right-wing" for a few years to help with their hard genocide of muslims threatening Israel, while they continue their soft genocide of whites.
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>>105045
>100% of non-jew billionaires are philosemitic, or at least pretend to be.
You mean like Henry Ford? And Walt Disney?
>Why do you think that is?
Could it be that you're attributing the characteristics of one's actions specifically to one race, and attacking the race rather than the actions?
>So he's going to throw his hands up and say the judges/democrats won't let him do anything he pretends to want to do again for 4 more years?
The Hell are you talking about?
>Other than bipartisan things like banning bump stocks, repealing section 230, increasing police funding, making it illegal to criticize jews or boycott Israel, etc. of course.
What about everything else that happened under Trump? Such as no wars, gasoline costing less than $2, restarting of American manufacturing, making the U.S. less dependent on imports, etc.
>Did nigger violent crime rates go down? 
Yes, but that isn't something exclusive to Trump. American crime rates have been constantly in decline since the 1990's. That is until the Summer of Love, which was orchestrated chaos engineered and pushed by the elites who want to destroy America. It wasn't even about "racial justice" despite the media posturing because niggers were losing their businesses and property in the riots as well. In fact, black people are more likely to report crimes to the police than any other race, which really show who wants to "defund the police": https://archive.md/sfSxF
And crime rates have skyrocketed in such a large number since Brandon got in office that some areas outright refuse to report their stats.
>Did people get any freedom of association to not allow niggers in their businesses or neighborhoods?
You're a schizoid, aren't you? Either that or a Fed who's LARPing too hard.
>You'll get what you think you want this November anyway
I don't think so since all signs are pointing to the possibility of "something" happening that will prevent the election from even occurring (Or indefinitely delay it).
>it's obvious why ((( they ))) gave Twitter to Musk
Because preventing Elon from buying Twatter was illegal?
>and slightly loosened censorship in general
No, social media hasn't. In fact, sites like JewTube are becoming even bolder in outright censoring people and silencing voices they don't like.
>They want the US to be more "right-wing" for a few years to help with their hard genocide of muslims threatening Israel
Except for the fact that no one wants to get involved with Israel, especially since reports have come out about how even the Kikes living there were protesting Bibi because he's 'that bad of a dictator (All of whom mysteriously disappeared after the October attack) and on top of several governments (Including Brandon) warning Israel intelligence about Hamas' attack as early as a year in advance. The entire Israeli-Hamas conflict we've been hearing about for the past several months is entirely orchestrated, just like how the invasion in Ukraine was entirely orchestrated. It's a distraction that exists for no other reason than to keep people arguing.
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>Another /pol/ discussion instead of economics I know they're tied together but you know what I mean
>I wonder what 4/pol/ looks like now that I mention it. I haven't been there in a decade.
It's like an edgy Reddit where everything is just one sentence since it's either too fast or everyone is room temp IQ. God was that a waste of time.

>>105035
One thing that's interesting is that 2019 - 2023 showed us that there was a transfer of power from the usual neocon zionists MIC elites (as in the warmongers who do everything for money and Israel) to the globalist fascists managerial class elites (you will eat the bugs and live in pods, 5min cities, digital currency tyranny). For the whole pandemic/lockdown scam they showed how much influence they had and everyone seemed on board until too many countries got pissed off way too fast at their leaders who people realized worked for the WEF. As the pandemic scare faded into obscurity and the lockdowns didn't hold for ages on end like they wanted. Their power waned into irrelevance as money ran out too fast. In 2023-2024 we went back to the neocon zoinist MIC meta of forever wars and goyims dying for Isreal. Despite the lab grown bird flu terrorism on farms; you don't hear much about the factory burnings, 5min cities, bug pushing etc. We almost hear nothing about the WEF and WHO in general now. It could be due to it being an election year but I think there's more to it than that.
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>>105029
>I didn't know [thing you never said nor implied]
Nice epic own. Too bad that doesn't disprove anything I said and there's literal hundreds of past fiat currencies that died after becoming fucking worthless which you can easily look up. It will happen to your precious dollar whether you like it or not. Maybe make some financial decisions to prepare for that instead of bleating out reddit tier snark about it.
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>>105048
Considering the US is actively killing the Petrodollar system by antagonizing everyone so much that they're going to BRICS. It won't be long until many countries start dumping US bonds and the money comes flooding back to America. We are on the course of hyperinflation. It's a matter of "when" instead of "if" now.
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>>105046
>You mean like these billionaires that died 70 years ago?
>In fact, black people are more likely to report crimes to the police than any other race, we love our law enforcers and our based black people!
>all signs are pointing to the possibility of "something" happening that will prevent the election from even occurring (Or indefinitely delay it).
>The entire Israeli-Hamas and Ukraine conflicts were entirely orchestrated for no other reason than to keep people arguing.
>You're a schizoid or a Fed, aren't you?
lol
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>>105043
I more or less agree with this guy.
>Western Socialists
Even the Eastern ones. There's a reason China, Vietnam, and Singapore have Special Economic Zones, and why Cambodia had to come up with a pseudo-capitalist system where they let the villages act as a corporate entity because the locals do better when they can turn a profit.
>>105021
Have you considered thinking about your local issues instead of worrying about the globe for once?

>>105045
>Did nigger violent crime rates go down? 
While I haven't looked at the recent stats, historically violence among blacks goes down when black poverty rates go down and black business ownership goes up. This is why welfare laws were passed in the first place; American niggers had guns, the right to defend themselves, and businesses to defend, and Jews didn't like that because the niggers were getting uppity about their rights and being nonviolent (as a general trend) raising their affection among conservative whites to a higher standard than affection towards Jews. Welfare forced them back into their ghettos and broke up their families. Turns out that when you let them sort out the problems on their own, niggers become significantly less violent as they establish internal authority structures around old niggers and young niggers. Niggers and the success of welfare at dismantling their culture is a Jewish blueprint for the rest of society.
>Did people get any freedom of association to not allow niggers in their businesses or neighborhoods?
Unironically yes you stupid fucking nigger.
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>>105046
>I don't think so since all signs are pointing to the possibility of "something" happening that will prevent the election from even occurring (Or indefinitely delay it).
tl;dr- The federal government has been registering illegals to vote under-the-table since 2022. Texas and Missouri will vote blue in the upcoming election because of illegals with social security cards. The swing states will all vote red, and New York/New Jersey are likely to decide the outcome of the erectionb owl.
Additionally let's not forget that Israelis hate Trump because he normalized relations among Middle Eastern countries, something that goes directly against the greater-Israel agenda.

>>105047
>Another /pol/ discussion instead of economics
I read your spoiler, but the issue is that nobody agrees on basic facts. As much as the Western Socialists and Capitalists used to fight with each other back in the 60s-90s they at least agreed on basic principles and data points. People these days can't even agree on sequence of events half the time.

If anons can't agree on basic facts, things will devolve into politics and tribalism because that's the only thing left.
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>>105050
>It's a matter of "when" instead of "if" now.
Yep. I heavily suggest anon begin learning how to garden, exercise, shoot a gun, and learn a blue-collar line of work ~5 years ago, but better late than never.
>>105052
Shut up, autist.
He's right.
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>>105054
>>105057
>Unironically yes you stupid fucking nigger.
In what part of the US did they directly violate the civil rights act to create a nigger-free zone? I'd love to move there.
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>>105063
The exact zip code is 20500.
>I'd love to move there.
You can't.
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>>105055
The main things people are arguing about is who's pulling the strings and that's honestly irrelevant at this point for practical economic means for the average anon. Before in this thread we were talking about how to learn Chicago/Austrian economics and how to invest. Here are things anons can't disagree on:

>The US printed too much money and now faces horrible stagnation that even the media can't contain.
>BRICS is trying to open their own commodities market and once they do countries don't have to use the dollar to get access to petroleum. If this happens this cripples the dollar.
>The only other things holding up the dollar are bonds and countries have less and less reason to hold that up.
>America has not built the local infrastructure over the years, or found a foreign replacement, for cheap goods that China provided. The less they need America the more bargain they have and this may increase prices.
>The US oil reserves are nearly all drained and Europe is still in an energy crisis.

I think US leadership know the US is in freefall at the moment and are just trying to grab as much money as possible to skip town before shit hits the fan hard enough for the NPCs to want to kill them. As in when the food shelves are empty. Either way, anons should be using this info to plan accordingly. They make it sound like things will just go back to normal. No, this will be far worse than the 2008 housing crash.
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>>105065
>America has not built the local infrastructure over the years, or found a foreign replacement, for cheap goods that China provided
From what I hear, Mexico and Vietnam are replacing West Taiwan as America's biggest trading partner. However that still doesn't solve the problem that we don't have much of any domestic manufacturing of our own.
>The US oil reserves are nearly all drained
And that's absolute bullshit.
For one, despite the constant drilling for oil that we've done across America for the past two centuries, we STILL haven't used up even a fraction of the stuff still down. With estimates speculating that we wouldn't actually begin to run out of the stuff for the next 500 years. Not to mention how Alaska's cherry really hasn't been popped for that industry. Second, the oil industry keeps finding new inventive ways to extract even more oil from what were previously declared to be "dry wells", with methods such as fracking and horizontal drilling. One guy who constantly talks about this is Mike Mauceli over at the Rich Dad Network: https://rumble.com/v4svc5h-crude-oil-could-hit-100-a-barrel-and-what-it-means-for-you-mike-mauceli-dan.html
All the bulshit you're hearing about how we're "running out of oil" is just propaganda designed to scare people into favoring the "green energy"  movement and destroying their lives in the process. In fact, the absolute irony of all this is that those big wind turbines they keep boasting about use an INSANE amount of oil function, so where do you think that oil is going to come from?

This isn't to say that petrolium isn't the one-all-end-all when it comes to energy. There's also things like natural (liquid) gas and uranium that are much more efficent sources of energy than oil, produce (Almost) zero emissions, and cheaper to mine and refine. The reality is that we have the technology and resources that, if left to develop naturally in the free market, could sustain us for the next millennia without ever having to innovate. And it's only after learning all this information that you begin to realize that EVERY FUCKING THING we've heard the media spouting for the past 50 FUCKING YEARS is absolute bullshit published and elevated to the point of being considered "scientific fact" for the sole reson of being able to eventually control people's lives.
>They make it sound like things will just go back to normal. No, this will be far worse than the 2008 housing crash.
Anon, things were far worse during the Great Depression, yet we still continued to survive. And would have rebounded sooner had FDR not pushed through his New Deal.
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>>105065
>Basic facts anons can't disagree on:
While there is some nuance in those (America still provides a large chunk of China's food supply for instance and that is not going to change unless Russia conquers Odessa or a world war breaks out), I'm willing to say "close enough" for the purposes of continuing discussion, sure.

>I think US leadership know the US is in freefall at the moment and are just trying to grab as much money as possible to skip town before shit hits the fan hard enough for the NPCs to want to kill them.
Yeah, pretty much. I'm not really sure what can be done as a poorfag, but I would suggest at bare minimum either paying off your debts before the October crop report or having the skillsets to be worth something if that's not possible.
I have actually considered an alternate explanation for the food/fuel shortages though other than intentional population decline and/or hubris. The world powers are aware they can't face China militarily at the moment, however I could see the artificial global food/fuel crisis as actually being a means of reducing Asian influence globally since Asian countries have a high reliance on foreign food/fuel imports in order to function. Even India imports as much food as it exports. That being said I'd hedge my bets on hubris and that there's no grande plan to crash the world economy to stunt China's growth.

>>105066
>And that's absolute bullshit.
Anon isn't talking about oil in the ground he's talking about the strategic petroleum reserves being almost empty. The oil in the ground can be seen as "potential reserves" because they still have to be extracted. Protip: it costs a fuckton of money to maintain the equipment that extracts it whether you're extracting or not, so much so that if you aren't constantly drilling you're losing money year-over-year.

The strategic petroleum reserves, the ones outside of the ground (figuratively speaking, the tanks are still underground lol) which took years to build up to avoid an oil price spike are supposed to be for military emergencies/natural disasters, but the current admin has been draining them to keep the price of gas artificially low in order to harm countries America is at war with with a trade war. Basically the only reason gas prices haven't spiked to $20/gallon is because we're selling off our rainy-day fuel to artificially keep the price lower during peak buying seasons. I think a court finally ruled they couldn't sell it to China to lower the global price, so they're selling it directly to domestic processing facilities now at an extreme discount (literally "bid however much you think the oil is worth") with a "please lower the price at the pump" memo attached.

What the anon you are responding to was implying was that eventually either America has to buy back fuel to refuel the reserves (raising the price of gas), or America runs out of fuel in their strategic petroleum reserves during a period of less drilling (Admin refused to lend-lease drilling rights since year 1 so the oil companies have been sitting on rusting equipment since about 2020/2021). The SPRs running out is the scarier prospect since then other countries can price gouge America/Europe for about 1-2 years until production begins picking back up. Tying all of this back to economics, I would suggest investing in oil companies that treat safety/maintenance as the cost of doing business (Nabors, Patterson UTI, Schlumberger, etc.) while avoiding small-time oil companies or oil companies with a proven track record of being dirtbags who don't do basic maintenance and hide accidents (Chevron, Ensco, Halliburton, etc.) since the latter who cut corners will be the most fucked when/if drilling does resume.
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Additionally comparing the current economic woes with the Great Depression is like apples and oranges. The 2008 recession had a bigger relative financial impact on working Americans than the Great Depression did, but our standards of living are just significantly better now than they were back then despite all the real problems around us.
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>>105067
>I'm not really sure what can be done as a poorfag
Buy copper and silver coins/bars/etc.. Not only for their inherit value and practical utility, but also for their medical uses:
https://archive.ph/lmUMh
https://archive.ph/A9jKj
>I have actually considered an alternate explanation for the food/fuel shortages though other than intentional population decline and/or hubris.
Have you finally realized that it's all intentional and they're doing this on purpose: https://odysee.com/@newdiscourses:9/absolute-zero-and-the-western-holodomor:7
>The world powers are aware they can't face China militarily at the moment, however I could see the artificial global food/fuel crisis as actually being a means of reducing Asian influence globally since Asian countries have a high reliance on foreign food/fuel imports in order to function.
If the guys running China Uncensored are anything to go by, the PLA is a joke. They have ZERO real ability to actually fight a war (Consisting overwhelmingly of soldiers who have never seen real combat and have zero desirability to do so), and so resort to playing political warfare with constant "threats" of a possible war if they're angered. All it would take to show West Taiwan's weakness is to constantly call Winnie's bluff, but that's not going to happen with our current "overlords". The entire Agenda 2030 program depends upon West Taiwan eventually replacing America as the "economic hub" of the world, and that cannot happen if West Taiwan is shown just how weak of a country they are.
>Anon isn't talking about oil in the ground he's talking about the strategic petroleum reserves being almost empty
Was considering that after I had already made my post.
>Protip: it costs a fuckton of money to maintain the equipment that extracts it whether you're extracting or not, so much so that if you aren't constantly drilling you're losing money year-over-year.
There's also the 2-4 years of cost associated with starting up or even closing a plant.
>The SPRs running out is the scarier prospect since then other countries can price gouge America/Europe for about 1-2 years until production begins picking back up.
America's going to be fine because we produce something like 75%-90% of the world's oil. But Europe is screwed based on everything that I hear.

>>105068
>Additionally comparing the current economic woes with the Great Depression is like apples and oranges. The 2008 recession had a bigger relative financial impact on working Americans than the Great Depression did
Regardless of which type of crash the market experiences (Most common one I've seen is comparing it to the "Staglfation" of the 70's, which my dad relates as being so bad that people had reverted to bartering), the moment it does happen is the time to break out the money mattress and go on a spending spree to buy up whatever stock you can for literal pennies.
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>the autistic sperg on 8moe found /animu/
How tedious
Don't you have your own website to moderate? You have no power here, Smugster.
>>105069
>Buy precious metals
Where? The Chinese flooded the market with lead weights years ago so 80% of the sellers are selling fake precious metals.
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Good post though, I just mostly agree so I don't have much to comment on.
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>>105078
>Where?
Like me, go to an actual store in person that sell coins and bars (Coin shop, pawn shop, antiquities markets, etc.). And if you don't "trust" the establishment, then verify it yourself (Weighing it, the "ping" test, having a magnet) before you buy it. From everything that I'm reading, all of the fakes are circulating around through online stores so local establishments in your area cannot afford to sell fakes unless they want to destroy their reputation. In addition, this is mostly effecting gold so buying silver doesn't have much of this problem. And I cannot think of ANYONE ever attempting to fake copper, unless you count the American government: https://archive.ph/xN2Kh#selection-335.0-341.23
And if you're still THAT afraid of any local place trying to screw you over, then your only other option is to buy classic coins. For example, I have a small box filled with 27 Jefferson Nickles from the 1940's that's worth $46 just on the silver value alone: https://archive.ph/U6QZ5
Pre-1965 quarters contain $5 worth of silver: https://archive.ph/d1e0c
So if you want to buy coins but are too speculative of the current offerings with the potential of fakes floating around, then there's an alternative for you.
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So here's something a little interesting regarding oil. So Saudi Arabia JUST announced that they're dropping the petrodollar: 
https://archive.md/QNcYu
https://archive.md/dmovJ
But since April, we've been receiving reports that there's an expected "oil glut" to take place in 2025: https://archive.md/kvh86
That's going to cause OPEC to lose control of oil prices: https://archive.md/mrQsc
Any idea what to expect next year?
>Trump gets priceless photo op by getting shot in the ear
>Biden announces he's not seeking re-election
What should I invest in to capitalize on this?
>>105045
>You'll get what you think you want this November anyway
called it
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>>106352
>What should I invest in to capitalize on this?
If you're asking that question:
<1. You're already late to the party
<2. Go to the nearest casino and bet all your money on "Black" at the roulette table
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>>106362
only retards gamble at the roulette table, video poker is where the real profit can be made if you're skilled enough at poker
>>83806
If any of you followed my advice you would've tripled your money by now btw
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>>106377
should've bought nvidia instead
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So why's the stock market taking a nose dive? Last I heard on Friday was that some underperforming stocks in Europe cause stocks to underperform in Japan, which added to American stocks declining in response to the high firing and unemployment rates that according to last month's jobs report. Then looking at the stocks today and everything seems to be in free-fall, with the Goobers talking about how apparently Buffet just sold half of his portfolio.

Any estimation on when things are going to dip the lowest?
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>>106596
Seems like it is mostly due to an unwinding of the usd/yen trade due to monetary policy and recession worries. People were also overleveraged which caused more capitulation when it fell apart. My guess is we bottomed at the open this morning when everyone came to short vix but who fucking knows.
>>106596
Why? American and European tech was massively overinflated due to everyone wanting to be part of the AI industry. But everyone also didn't want to get out early if there was still money to be made. Throw in worries of the economy and boom, a correction was bound to happen.
>Petro dollar just died
>All the sudden a massive market collapse

Oh no burger kun, I dont feel so good. about the burger dollar.
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>>106601
Love how people talk about a 2-3% drop like the world is over.
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How much did you lose, anons?
>>106607
Le this. Le nothing ever happens. Le nothingburger. Le stay complacent, goyim.
>>106621
As for the market situation, recently, I was pretty sure that the spy dumping would settle on the 100-day ma support, with traders realizing that any bad macro news means earlier rate cuts and no sticky inflation. But they didn't much care, and it just crashed right through the line. It's turned into a strong resistance level too, with a long wick there after today's trading. Doesn't looks good. On the one hand, there's already been plenty of selling, but it may not be over yet. This may even be the start of a long downward trend. Prices are pretty high overall, and the ai bubble seems to be bursting. Not worried about my RE stuff though, given that lower rates or even a recession is no issue for this sector.
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>>106621
Is that a Bon Clay reference by the possibly trans athlete?
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>>106625
>possibly trans
Rude. Hinata is a nice and pretty qt nippon girl. That's her celebrating and showing her appreciation to her fans after winning a silver medal in table tennis at the olympics. She's forming a heart with her arms.
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>>106616
About 10k. My real estate stocks are climbing back up again, though. Up 200% and 200k in 3 years. I won't have to double my money many more times to reach a million.
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>>106629
>deleted post just because of a reply you didnt like
You must be a lovely person to do business with. I pray you never have an active role in any group/company you hold positions with.
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>>106616
I made like $1k buying some svix at monday's open.
If I wasn't a fucking retarded pussy I'd have thrown my entire account into the trade at 3x leverage since it was literal once a decade opportunity.
The last two times VIX +100% spikes like that were during volmageddon in 2018 and the financial crisis of 2008.
Now I also expect monday's open was a market bottom for the rest of the year, but I'm far less confident in that than I was that we were overvixed as fuck and there was free money on the table monday morning.
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>>106631
That's not why I deleted it. I even reposted it. Lighten up. 
>praying for bad outcomes for others over pettiness
That doesn't seem very christian.
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>>106632
It's easy to be self-critical in hindsight. If you'd gone all-in and there'd been one more bad day, you'd been wiped.
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Stocks are taking a dive, again...

>>106616
Apparently nothing. According to my brokerage's "portfolio value" chart, I have gained $10 over the past month. As far as my positions, I have I cannot account for the ones I've had over the past couple years, but the few that I have bought over the past couple months have lost as much as 17% of their value to gaining as much as 8%. Of the "total" $850 I have invested in the market, I have "earned" about $40 in the past coming on three years. This is of course not accounting for dividends.

>>106623
>>106625
What are you guys replying to?

>>106638
>If you'd gone all-in and there'd been one more bad day, you'd been wiped.
That's primarily why I hesitated in transferring more than my paychecks usual 1% into my brokerage.
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>>106638
nah that's not how vix/svix works. Multiple bad days in a row doesn't necessarily lead to an increase in volatility.
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>>106646
>akshually...
There's an extremely high correlation between deep red days and increased volatility. Anyway, I was obviously talking about a spike in volatility. 
>>106642
I deleted and reposted  >>106630. 
>re stocks are recovering
One of them, which primarily owns apartment buldings, hit its all time high today.
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>>106637
You are a moneychanger, your livelihood and wealth are built on usury. You have no place to talk of Christlike behavior.
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>>106656
>moneychanger
What? No, I trade assets. If things go well, I buy them when they're cheap and sell them when they've become expensive.  Occassionally, I sell options contracts and the right to buy or sell assets from me, but that's also not usury. As far as I know, there's nothing unchristian about any of this.
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>>106657
So you collect absolutely zero dividends and/or interest on your positions?
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>>106656
Thanks Anon for posting this webm. I needed to see this again. Cheers.  :)
>>106658
Dividends have nothing to do with usury.
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>>106660
They're tied to interest and profits. You change money and speculate to produce value from thin air. Sounds like jewry to me. Any interest is by definition usury.
bible:
>god sez u should cut the tip of you're sons peni off LOL and being meek and humility-ated is ackshully a good thing becuz god sez so
>dont worry if non-christians take advantage of your meekness and conquer your nation, jesus will surely come back someday and make them pay for that lol just trust the plan :)
you:
>this is the book I will trust and base my morality on for life and indoctrinate my children with
>>106668
7/10, got me to reply.
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>>106668
5/10 weak bait
Circumcision is only mentioned in modern english translations, specifically American Standard Version based translationsyou can get into the weeds about other factors like Kellogg's 'sanitary' lifestyle which pushed for circumcision to "prevent lustful behavior like masturbation". Why do you think every Christian european country doesn't practice circumcision?
<Your faith is shit because kikes diluted it for the American masses!
<I do not understand the concept of choosing battles, and assume all text at face value
Your (You), sir
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>>106686
I thought circumcision was only practiced majorly in Anglo countries because it was pushed as a way to combat venereal disease in the late 19th century (Unsurprising given Britain had ((( Disraeli ))) as prime minister and the USA always had a big population of jews)?
 >>106668
Dumbass, New Testament says circumcision is a purely spiritual concept, Paul specifically says cutting the foreskin is unnecessary in the new covenant.
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>>106686
>only mentioned in modern english translations
it's in the original king james translation retard
>>106691
Most people stop reading the bible and throw it in the trash when they read that "God" demands child penis torture/mutilation in Genesis. If you find out your neighbor just got out of prison for sexually torturing children but he's totally sorry about that and changed his ways now would you trust him?
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>>106694
what david did to the conquered peoples does not equate to a mandate from God. God has never commanded you to snip a baby boy's foreskin off, no matter how much reddit wants you to believe it to be true.
>>106691
Refer to my mention on Kellogg's "sanitary" lifestyle that he pushed thanks to the sanitarium system in post civil war America. Kellogg had huge influence with growing churches during that time, and peddled influence/money to get his fucked up ideals inserted into the church culture. American Freud, if you will.
>>106695
>christcucks in charge of actually reading the book the jews wrote to mentally enslave them for thousands of years
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2017&version=KJV
9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.
11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.
12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.
13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.
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23 And Abraham took Ishmael his son, and all that were born in his house, and all that were bought with his money, every male among the men of Abraham's house; and circumcised the flesh of their foreskin in the selfsame day, as God had said unto him.
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>>106695
>Old Testament
>Old Testament
Again, stupid baitposter
Acts chapter 15
>And certain men (Pharisees, I.e. kikes) came down from Judea and taught the brethren, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 Therefore, when Paul and Barnabas had no small DISSENSION and DISPUTE with them (The disciples of Christ said "That's wrong, you retard." Just like I'm doing now.)

Want more proof?
Galatians chapter 2
>I went in response to a revelation and, meeting privately with those esteemed as leaders, I presented to them the gospel that I preach among the Gentiles. I wanted to be sure I was not running and had not been running my race in vain. 3 YET NOT EVEN TITUS, WHO WAS WITH ME, WAS COMPELLED TO BE CIRCUMCISED, THOUGH HE WAS A GREEK. 4 This matter arose because some FALSE BELIEVERS (i.e. kikes) had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves. 5 We did not give in to them for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might be preserved for you.

Feel free to ignore this though, pretending to be retarded is the favorite past time in places like this, after all.
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>>106701
>God: cut pp off pls
>Paul and Barnabas: disregard God he sucks cock
ok, paganism/Paulism or whatever your religion is sounds less gay than christianity at least
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What does this shit have to do with making money?

>>106703
I guess Christ, himself, also sucks dick since he took ALL of God's commandments towards the Israelites (That comprised four of the five books in the Written Torah), and reduced them down to two:
<Love the Lord with all your heart
<Treat others how you want to be treated
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>>106695
>God has never commanded you to snip a baby boy's foreskin off
>>106701
>Okay actually he did but I don't consider the first half of the Bible canon
>A Jew who never met Jesus said that an adult convert to Christianity didn't need to be mutilated, so that means God never actually wanted kids cut either
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>>106709
Arent there enough /biz/ threads in leftoid spaces that you already inhabit? Why do tourists always feel like setting up fake colonies on imageboards to only be populated by a few circlejerkers and their sockpuppets?
Qurious how any /biz/fag is some sort of athiest or anti-christian. Almost as if the entire concept of /biz/ is kiked...
For what purpose does making fiat money matter when the ship is already taking water? The rats have already been scrambling off the ship, why rearrange the deck chairs?
>rates the bait a 5/10
>gets baited anyways
You retards really need to learn to shut up once in a while.
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>>106723
The anon who posted said bait seems to be a neurotic faggot. If anything, maybe the replies made the anon at least have some anxiety attacks and suck down some benzos.
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>>106725
It could be that one autists from Moe/fur named diosoth: https://archive.ph/nSacg
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>>106727
>ctrl+f "diosoth"
>55 hits
>most are posts by said autist
<<106703
>disregard the foundation of the Church, it's not real Christianity
Hoo boy. That's a new one.
>>106709
>Treat others how you want to be treated
I want a little girl to break into my house at night, handcuff me to my bed and make love with me, then pee in my mouth
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https://archive.ph/gwj31

>Russia & China's US-Provoked Payment Problems Caught Most BRICS Enthusiasts By Surprise
https://archive.ph/lCxvh
<RT published a feature analysis on Friday asking, “Has the US finally succeeded in choking off Russia’s biggest trade lifeline?”, which readers are encouraged to read in full to learn more Russia and China’s US-provoked payment problems. In a nutshell, Chinese banks of all sizes have suddenly started complying with the US’ sanctions out of fear of secondary sanctions, which RT’s financial expert Henry Johnston reminded everyone has also been reported by the domestic Russian media whose articles he cites.
<All of this is shocking for the average BRICS enthusiast who’s been influenced by wishful thinking articles since the start of the special operation into imagining that this group is an anti-Western bloc. They’ve also heard countless times that “the dollar is dead” or is “about to die any day now,” that Russia and China are “allies” who are jointly resisting the West in all respects, and that a new world order has already emerged to replace the previously American-led unipolar one. None of that is true though.
<The dollar remains the world’s reserve currency despite the reputational damage caused by the US’ anti-Russian sanctions, Russia and China are mired in US-provoked payment problems, and multipolarity has yet to fully emerge since the legacy of America’s unipolar system is responsible for the aforesaid.
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>>107332
good riddance, fuck chinks.
Have you guys taken a look at ((( Icahn ))) Enterprises regarding their stock? From what I can tell, it seems like their stock price to dividend yield is that for every $4 of stock you buy, you receive $1 back in annual dividends.
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>>108561
A dividend that high is usually a bad sign. In the case of these guys zoom out 2 years and they're down 75% over 2 years. And also they cut their dividend in half already last year. And they seem to be losing money. To me this implies more dividend cuts in order to help them regain profitablity.
Maybe you know something special about their holdings or strategy that we don't, but to me it looks like a steaming pile of shit.
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>>108563
>Maybe you know something special about their holdings or strategy that we don't, but to me it looks like a steaming pile of shit.
Here's the reason why their stock price is so "low":
<In May 2023, short seller Hindenburg Research released an analysis of Icahn Enterprises with claims that the company is over-valued due to paying large dividends using investments from new investors. In addition, the analysis claims that Icahn took out loans against a majority of his holdings and that these have the potential to be called should the stock price move downward. On the day of the release of this analysis the share price of Icahn Enterprises dropped by 20%. Hindenburg also accused Icahn of running a "Ponzi-like economic structure". The company announced in its quarterly earnings report in August 2023 that it would cut its dividend in half.
<Following the release of the short report, in August 2024 IEP and Icahn were investigated by the SEC and fined $1.5 million and $500,000 respectively for failures highlighted in the report. As part of the settlement, Icahn and IEP did not admit or deny any wrongdoing.
<A class-action lawsuit was filed and later dismissed in Florida in September 2024, with the decision highlighting that in disclosures IEP mentioned that dividends could be reduced, and the judge also found that Ichan's personal borrowing activities were adequately disclosed.
I've considered doing arb betting on the election but I'm too lazy and haven't used any of these sites before.
That said since most of these markets are so new and unregulated, there have been big spreads between different betting sites like kalshi and polymarket, where you can literally bet on both sides of the same event and profit no matter who wins. Worth looking into if you're into that sort of thing.
anyone that didn't bet at least a few grand on Trump is dumb
>he doesn't know about the 6 gorillion mail-in votes.
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>>108575
Yeah, Trump won 2020 in terms of actual votes, but anyone with a brain saw the fraud was comical.
Little reason to assume they won't try the same thing this time, outside of the pandemic making 2020 a lot easier to steal of course.
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>>108575
>>108579
Anyone paying attention to what's been going on in the middle east can see why ((( they ))) will rig the election for Trump today if he doesn't get enough votes. Why would they want a democrat president when so many democrat voters are pro-Palestine? They want somewhat competent soldiers to signup to go die for Israel, not the obese black women and trannies that Kamala will convince to signup. Rigging an election is much easier than doing a draft.
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Anyway this is why i was talking about arb betting instead of arguing who the elites will rig it for.
>>108581
>kikes are the only ones rigging the election
The chinks were the most influential force in 2020's election.
>>108581
>Why would they want a democrat president when so many democrat voters are pro-Palestine?
Because Trump is a business man and war isn't good for anyone except banks and weapons manufacturers, neither of which Trump is a part of. Everything else pretty much dies out during a war because you need people to be used as cannon fodder. In addition, Trump's biggest asset in terms of politics is negotiating deals that benefit him. A war in the Middle East doesn't benefit him in anyway because the American people are tired of being sent to countries on the other side of the world to fight wars that we have nothing to do with.

Contrast that with Camel Toe and her handlers who would have zero reservation about activating the draft and using police force to supress anyone and everyone who dares to protest against them. Especially when the goal is to cause a world wide crisis for the purposes of destroying all the current governments so that they can be replaced by the United Nations or a similar organization that will bring about Socialism Stakeholder Capitalism.
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>>108597
>Because Trump is a business man and war isn't good for anyone except rich businessmen.
ftfy
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>>108604
>billionaire
<not rich
Wew.
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I'm planning to switch from my Visa credit card to another card. Is anyone here using Discover or AmEx? If so, what are they like?
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>>109435
I wouldn't close your card unless it has an annual fee. Always good to have a backup.
At the end of the day it depends on what you're looking to get out of the card, but both bluecash everyday and discover it are decent cashback cards.
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>>109435
I haven't had any issues with discover my whole time using it I guess.
Built up a nice amount of rewards money over time.
>>109437
>At the end of the day it depends on what you're looking to get out of the card
Mostly getting tired of Visa and MC antics in regards to Japanese companies, so looking to get away from that. I'm mostly considering Discover because of their partnership with JCB, but I know that AmEx is also an options and just wanted to be aware of my choices.
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>>109443
Amex usually has foreign transaction fees on their cards. They don't always apply, but discover is probably better from that angle. Discover it and it-miles both have pretty good cashback, especially with their intro offers. I'd give you a referral link (100 off 1st statement) but idk if that would be ok here.
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>>109444
>I'd give you a referral link (100 off 1st statement) but idk if that would be ok here.
No, thank you. Also I've received one of those physical letters they send out to everyone looking to sweep up new customers, so I figured that I would use that.
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>>109445
Referrals are a separate bonus afaik but not gonna push it on you. Mailer card means you'll get approved at least.
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Anons...
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>>109888
I hope those numbers are real
>>109893
Official. What do you mean by real there, the value of anything is fluctuating all the time for obvious reasons. And things bartered won't even register there.
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Not even remotely. The retard just photoshopped a flag over the worst day of covid. Nvidia did get raped today though.
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So after West Taiwan crashed the tech sector last week, Cheetoh-Man is following it up with crashing everything else through trade tarrifs. And it's having knock-on effects around the globe.
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>>110010
What the fuck is this retard even trying to do?
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>>110011
>>110010
Are we really gonna spend the next 4 years seething every time the market dips 1% before hitting a new ATH a week later?
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>>110014
>starts the most pointless, unnecessary trade war in history against his own allies, while favouring the Chinks
>actively makes things worse for everybody
>nobody even knows what he's trying to accomplish by shooting America in the foot like this
>literally everybody knows it's a bad idea and the only people defending it are sycophants and retards who spout bullshit like "if the stock market eventually goes up later, it means the economy is in good shape"
>>110015
Seethe more. The day of the rake is coming.
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>>110014
I don't care about the markets dropping. I'm actually hoping for it so that I can buy some neat stocks on the cheap.

>>110015
>while favouring the Chinks
Who are receiving tariffs at 100% as opposed to our "allies" being taxed at 25%?
>literally everybody knows it's a bad idea 
The market needs to crash. I don't care how many people it wipes out because it's needed correcting for a long time. Only problem is that people have been putting off the reletively "little" pain that they'd receive earlier if they fixed it earlier, and it has now instead multiplied to the point that the pain will now be substantial because a substantial correction is now needed. Add into the fact that the dollar is practically insolvent, and any attempt to tackle even a fraction of government spending is going to cause everything to implode, there is no possible way that we can avoid everything crashing.

But we also went in understanding that to be the case. That things will be shit for the next few years, but we'll eventually pivot and come out of it all that much better than we went in.
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>>110017
>we'll eventually pivot and come out of it all that much better than we went in.
That didn't happen with Covid's crash. The economy never recovered after that, not in ways that affect ordinary people as opposed to megacorps. Why would it happen now?
>>110017
>Who are receiving tariffs at 100%
You added an extra zero, retard. It's 10%. The tariffs on US allies are 2.5 times higher than on China.
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>>110015
>actively makes things worse for everybody
except everyone who hates america (everyone who isn't gay or jewish)
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>>110020
You're right, Trump needs to finally allow US military to nuke the three gorges dam and flood the anthill. With a sizeable percentage of the world population gone in an afternoon, there will be more resources to go around to the prolitareiat masses. They are all insectoid bugmen, anyways, there will be no real measurable loss culturally.
>>110015
>>110020
>>110021
For some context behind this:
>The Secret Tariff Code is Buried in ‘Section 2, Item (h)’ of the Executive Order
https://archive.ph/spUcV
<So, Canada and Mexico get 25% tariffs, but China only 10%.  Why?  The secret is in that subsection “(h)” when it talks about de minimis treatment. Essentially, what President Trump is doing is levying a much more massive import tax, and possible confiscation impact on the core source of fentanyl (and other illegal) substances.
<Approximately a billion packages are estimated to enter the USA under the cover of the de minimis exemption.  This is where the enforcement mechanism of the “External Revenue Service” combines with the tariff approach and the “state of emergency.”  President Trump imposed the tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, a nearly 50-year law that gives the president sweeping power to impose sanctions after declaring an emergency.
<Now the billion packages, mostly from China, Mexico and Canada are going to be subjected to review and interception.
<...
<It was reported last year that the U.S. was on track to receive a billion packages through the de minimis loophole that aren’t taxed and don’t have customs slips saying what they are.  Making matters worse, illegal items are slipping through the cracks, including, knockoffs, unsafe items and even chemicals used to make fentanyl.  The worst abuser that exploits this de minimis loophole is, by far, China.
<President Trump can require a customs and duty declaration stating what is in every package and subsequently collect tariffs and duties.
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>25% tariff on all aluminum imports into the US, regardless of origin
Yes, this will definitely help domestic industry.
The real goal is to make things more expensive and ensure that you will own nothing (the "and be happy" part is irrelevant and not Zion Don's concern).
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>>110118
Bottled soda was already cheaper especially in 2 liter bottles, but now the price difference will be absurdly large just like my dick. Will canned soda become a luxury only for the rich like soda in glass bottles? What about canned food? Maybe someone will invent something like a plastic can to store food instead of metal cans.
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>>110120
Plastic resistant enough to high temperature wouldn't be much cheaper, I guess. And some plastic containers can leak this shit to their stored contents:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_Bisphenol_A
Guess what's might follow. Exactly like with soy-based diet.
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>>110118
>Yes, this will definitely help domestic industry.
Many domestic industries and production are dead because countries in South America, Asia, and Africa literally exporting their resources at bottom-barrel prices and produced entirely on the backs of slave labor. Of course the price is going to go up because the price was NEVER suppose to be that low in the first place, is ONLY that low thanks to blatant market manipulation.
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>>110124
>I don't want shitskins or chinks to have to do slave labor, I'd rather myself and my white family do that labor ourselves for wages, which we'll desperately need since everything will be far more expensive
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>>110125
>I'd rather myself and my white family do that labor ourselves for wages
Yes
>which we'll desperately need since everything will be far more expensive
Things are ALREADY more expensive.
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>>110126
Your IQ is so low you can't find any better way to make money than the lowest of the low-skilled factory labor? Any labor that niggers are capable of doing should be far below what any self-respecting man is willing to make a career out of.
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>>110127
>Any labor that niggers are capable of doing should be far below what any self-respecting man is willing to make a career out of.
Sounds like a personal problem if you consider yourself so far "above" doing some jobs that you'd rather starve than actually do work that you could be decently paid.
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>>110127
Don't bother trying to debate morons who welcome the great reset with open arms as long as it's brought by the Red ZOG party instead of the Blue ZOG party.
>>110128
I live in america, the land of dirt poor people being obese, not starving
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>>110121
Actually you might be more wary of plastics in general.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticizer#Safety_and_toxicity
>>110130
>I live in america, the land of dirt poor people being obese
Yes, thank you for stealing my money so that you can live a carefree lifestyle doing whatever you want due to the welfare you receive MEANWHILE I can barely do jack shit because I wasn't raised to be a welfare leech and was taught to actually work for a living.
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On Sunday, Febuary 23, 2025, there will be seven "dirty" explosive devices detonated in seven different U.S. cities; Miami, New York City, Atlanta, Seattle, Houston, Oakland and Cleveland. The death toll will approach 100,000 from the initial blasts and countless other fatalities will later occur as result from radioactive fallout.

The bombs themselves will be delivered via trucks. These trucks will pull up to stadiums hosting NFL games in each respective city. All stadiums to be targeted are open air arenas, excluding Atlanta's Georgia Dome, the only enclosed stadium to be hit. 

Due to the open air, the radiological fallout will destroy those not killed in the initial explosion. The explosions will be near simultaneous, with the cities specifically chosen in different time zones to allow for multiple attacks at the same time.
The 22nd of October will mark the final day of Ramadan as it would fall in Mecca. Russia will automatically be blamed for the attacks. Later, through Al-Jazeera, Osama bin Laden will issue a video message claiming responsibility for what he dubs "America's Hiroshima". Yes, he is still alive.

In the aftermath civil wars will erupt across the world, both in the Middle East and within the United States. Global economies will screech to a halt. General chaos will rule.
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>>110132
you don't need to just mindlessly do what you were raised to do, you could just stop being a wageslave anytime and enjoy life.
>>110133
good luck Osama!
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>>110135
>you could just stop being a wageslave anytime and enjoy life.
Where's the money going to come from to pay for me food, my utilities, etc.
<You could get it off of welfare
I had my fun with unemployment during Corona-chan. Never again. Even during 2023, I was blowing through my savings to pay the bills as I refused to go through that mess again while I was looking for work.
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>>110136
You are arguing with a person who has probably spent their entire life on social security disability for major retardationprobably stemming from inbreeding, don't feed him any more (You)s
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>>110136
just live in someone else's home
>>110137
no, just living in my parents' basement leeching off their social security
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>>110137
It's too hard to NOT give him the (you). But let me try this...

>>>/animu/110138
>just live in someone else's home
I am because I CAN'T make enough to move out in the first place. And these people after a few years decided it was a good idea to start charging rent.
This is all incredibly pathetic and you should be ashamed to type these posts.
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>>110142
It really is. So much whining over this crap from retarded spergs. They should have been aborted or smothered in the crib to spare us from their shit.
So I take it that the stock market is taking a dive because the tariffs actually stuck around and are being implemented?
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>>110464
That's a major factor, along with retaliatory tariffs, surely. There's also lingering inflation and a recognition that US equities have gotten very expensive. Really, this may be the beginning of a long and deep bear market.
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>>110544
Archive and context?
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>>110545
It probably has something to do with all the crypto rugpulls he's been complicit in.
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So much for Trump's actions "bankrupting" the country:
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eggs-us
https://gasprices.aaa.com/todays-state-averages/
>White House Hails Recent Drops In Egg And Gas Prices
https://archive.ph/WfrqX
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>>110812
>eggs
The egg prices weren't due to Trump's tax increases in the first place. They were because of the disease outbreaks and associated culls. 
And your link says gas prices started rising, not falling:
>After weeks of little movement, the national average for a gallon of gas increased by about 4 cents since last week to $3.12

In any case it's pretty premature to discuss the effects of the orange kike's nonsense when he's being such a schizo about pausing them and re-enacting them. I don;t even know which ones are actually active yet at this point.
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>>110812
Costco is literally Made In America hippyshit disguised as bulk goods.
>>110813
Hell no I'm not letting you have that one. 
>disease outbreaks and associated culls. 
They were because the CDC head made it the fuck up and she's being criminally investigated for causing mass market disruptions to get back at Wyoming and Nebraska for not being pro-bidup enough.
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And yeah most of the tariffs don't start until May, with the first preliminary batch in April.
>>110814
>Made In America hippyshit 
They sell everything. Even caskets. And the good bone broth spicy ramen.  Also fresh eggs and beef. And clothes.
If anyone is wondering why the market is taking a dump today:
>Japan putting ‘all options on table’ in dealing with US auto tariffs, PM Ishiba says
https://archive.ph/GAzj2
>Thai auto sector frets over US tariffs
https://archive.ph/fi7Lh
>Canadian PM Mark Carney slams Trump's auto tariffs as 'direct attack'
https://archive.ph/HrdAU
>President Trump Unleashes 25% Tariffs On Foreign-Made Auto Imports
https://archive.ph/8fMH2
>Trump's 25% tariffs on car imports worries manufacturers and consumers alike
https://archive.ph/aGViF
>Taiwan plans response to Trump tariffs with energy imports, tariff cuts
https://archive.ph/VTEo8
>Trump Escalates Global Trade War with New 25 Percent Automobile Tariffs
https://archive.ph/L2IXO
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>>110854
I hope Trump makes some great trade treaties so we'll never have to deal with the effects of shit like NAFTA again and actually get some manufacturing back in the US.
Who knows here whose money is involved with the company behind the Visa and Mastercard? They are making big waves against businesses related to online lewd content all over the world. Who is to blame, specifically by surname? Whose idea is that? I'm ignorant about /biz/ in general, so I'm asking hoping someone is better informed here.
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>>110867
It's the investor group that owns both, and many others smaller but kinda important things and assets. I forget the name they go by right now, they are often pulling an "Alphabet>Google" and rebranding or partially moving assets between their own properties and associating/dissociating between themselves, etc. The directory has many different names, and a few are outliers or nepo babies without such an easily traceable background. For most others, I think the most common denominator would be older western jewish money, they are just doing their usual thing but the focus this time is on making more cash that is not tied so much to older management and sources (Israel, Old Money from Europe and peerage, American State money, they want to be a little less reliant on those now). So I think your focus should be on them wanting to make more money, as easy as possible, so they push for some bullshit.
I can think of 2 or 3 names in the directory to give you, but I don't want to single it out to those, it's the whole directory. When you get names and corps in there it's easier to see where the money came from, but now you'd have to get into financial reports to find them, it's a bit more hidden now. For example, I just tried to do it quickly for you with Visa and some banks, but recently they've started reporting being owned in many small parts by different "investor" groups. But those are majorly owned by other investor groups, who also own parts of Visa and partners. See how it works? Now it seems that they all own just small parts, but when there are decisions to be made they also own the majority of the other investors as well as the whole so it's those directories who get to call the shots. Then combine that with the "assets" themselves owning parts of each other, like Mastercard owning Visa stock while Visa owns a big chunk of Mc. You see that in tech all the time. That gives them even more leeway while becoming less traceable, combine that for all the assets in some capacity. It gets more complex with time, because it also helps with taxes and monopoly evasion, and more importantly with making risky senseless moves without investor consensus. See, a corp can do something retarded without raising a fuss with investors or the market if they have the backing of other corps or those publish something in the same direction or whatever, when in reality it may be just 1 guy being retarded behind all of that to the detriment of smaller clueless players.
>message too long
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>flood detected, I love you too.
>>110868
Eh, so tracking it that way doesn't make as much sense today and there are probably more efficient ways, but those are the ones implementing this. As for whose idea it is, they are probably getting it from AI and investment algos from some years ago (because they take their time to implement the stuff) and/or some retarded freshgrad consultants. Trying to implement "substitute" products and promote their sells, pumping market assets, all Grade-level concepts. For them it's just an easy and kinda cheap way to boost value of their stuff and make some cash with many less strings attached than usual. More details in pic. Heh, tldr, maybe if we kill lolis they'll come to OnlyFans, maybe if anime is boring they'll come to Pornhub, maybe if we expose idorus they'll come to watch The Little Niggermaid.

>What to do?
There was never any rationality behind that, so don't try to argue with stupid. It's money. The way is to find alternative ways and platforms that don't rely on the directories' assets so their bitching and bullying can't reach you. You see some groups managed it with crowdfunding, but I see more future in those alternative "payment systems" (heh, the fact english doesn't have a more marketable name is already an attempt to hide the potential). There are some that have gotten quite big, surpassing the GDP of their own countries or managing whole trade sections in there or a lot of interesting stuff, in developing but extensive markets like in each BRIC or Finland or France, etc. Also all those international corpos that send cash overseas as a service. They have the tech, now imagine if they all collaborated to move capital between them, got into the still-somehow untapped market of nihon degeneracy. Maybe even by getting JCB into it again. Maybe they'd have to ignore the american market at first for a little while, because of some regulations, but then the world is yours to take.

It hasn't happened yet because all of those are still deadly afraid of Visa and the directories, once they try all of those will immediately terminate all services with them, but there are many more alternatives now than some years ago. BEFORE you even consider that all the corpos I mentioned are already operating in crypto too. They are just cowards and still not into a collaboration phase, and "unstable" markets make them even more scaredy. They are also still afraid of the bullies publishing some random article shitting on them and tanking their stock market value, despite unprecedented profit possibilities. It's so gay that they are still acting as if Morgan himself was still alive, but alas, I don't have a penny to my name.
Heck, I'm surprised Bezos hasn't done it yet, he could do all of this in a week for a slightly bigger piece of the pie. Even less time if he tried to do it alone. He's been kind of a pussy since the divorce, so much for the greed of the dragon.
Anyways, with so many chances, those markets and industries collapsing with bullies getting away with it would be very retarded, but I ain't got no crystal ball.

Thanks autism for letting me write that without much effort, it's useless. By any chance... Were you just trying to datamine here of all places, to see if we're blaming someone specific, for some political pawn trying to measure his public image? I'm such a baka, that was delicious bait.
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>>110869
I'm just nobody from EU wondering why the world is gradually making less sense with each decade I'm still living. I don't know if you can empathize with my POV. Maybe I'm just getting old.
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>>110870
And there are some posts in this board made by me from 3 years ago, if that helps.
>>110544
Casino? Like the one he bankrupted?
>>110869
Imagine someone making a dissertation about this already, lol.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/13634607241305579?icid=int.sj-full-text.citing-articles.3
>Bitcoin Could Reduce Dominance Of US Dollar, BlackRock's Larry Fink Warns
https://archive.ph/E9n0t
<Fink wrote in his Annual Chairman’s Letter to Investors that “decentralized finance is an extraordinary innovation” that makes “markets faster, cheaper, and more transparent.”
<"To be clear, I'm obviously not anti-digital assets (far from it)," Fink states, but “that same innovation could undermine America’s economic advantage if investors begin seeing Bitcoin as a safer bet than the dollar.”
<"The U.S. has benefited from the dollar serving as the world’s reserve currency for decades. But that’s not guaranteed to last forever.
<...
<If the U.S. doesn’t get its debt under control, if deficits keep ballooning, America risks losing that position to digital assets like Bitcoin."
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>>110936
This seems like a complete misunderstanding of bitcoin as well as stuff like the yem carry trade.
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A bit late, but...
>The Trump administration has released charts outlining its new “reciprocal tariff” structure.
https://archive.ph/38VJr
The countries that will be experiencing a 40+% tarrif will be: Vietnam (46%), Cambodia (49%), Sri Lanka (44%), Madagascar (47%), Myanmar/Burma (44%), Laos (48%), Sanit Pierre and Miquelon (50%), and Syria (41%). After that, the countras experience less than 40% but at least 30% include: West Taiwan (34%), Taiwan (32%), Thailand (36%), Switzerland (31%), Indonesia (32), South Africa (30%), Bangladesh (37%), Serbia (37%), Botswana (37%), Nauru (30%), and Libya (31%).

>Trump’s tariffs shock U.S. trade partners, sending Asian markets lower: Live updates
https://archive.ph/tAAWP

<Also, last pic is something that I found saved to my computer that pretty uch encapsulates why the average person doesn't have a single issue with this.
>>110961
>My country had 40% import tariffs on US imports plus an extra 20% tax up until a year ago.
>Rate was progressively reduced until it was only 10% after Nov last year, with the tax being replaced for a new 10% one for a total of 20% overall counting both import tariff and tax.
>Chart just says 10% and the new tariff rate from you will also just be 10%.
I really do love you too, guys, apes together strong.
>>110961
does this mean the price of importing anime girl themed buttplugs from Japan will go up 24%?
The monkeys are about to go-ape shit again!
Trump caused inflation on bananas and toilet paper: https://archive.ph/lVgp7
How will DK ever recover?
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>>110961
>Israel: 17%
if he had just set this to about -10% the media would be praising his tariffs
>>110966
The new DK game actually looks pretty dope. You get to chimp out and destroy terrain.
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Did I miss something?
Despite "everyone" panicing over the tariffs and how it's effecting the stock market, the shares of all the companies I'm invested resulted in my portfolio dipping to where it was back in early March and January (For now).
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>>110974
Never mind, it's dropped down to December's levels. Anyone shorting the market is probably making a killing.
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>>110961
>its new “reciprocal tariff” structure.
This Trump administration is so demented it makes Biden look mentally sound.
Even more insane is that some people are so retarded they actually support it. At least Zion Don has the excuse that it furthers the goal of ensuring that you own nothing. But the fact that his Q-Boomer cocksuckers also cheer on the tax hikes they're getting hit with is just pathetic.
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>>110981
>Even more insane is that some people are so retarded they actually support it
Why WOULDN'T people support it? It's ruining billionaires and exploitative companies. Hell, Apple was just hit the hardest as almost none the iPhones components are made in the U.S., and Nike is considering bankruptcy.

You're telling us that we should "now" worry about whatever happens to these greedy Kikes? Fuck off!
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>>110982
>Why WOULDN'T people support it?
Why wouldn't Americans support their own government slapping them with 50%+ tax hikes, based on demented calculations falsely described as "reciprocal", designed to dramatically reduce their standards of living by making everything less affordable? Gee, I don't know.
>You're telling us that we should "now" worry about whatever happens to these greedy Kikes?
What the fuck are you even talking about? Who do you think is implementing this? Trump is as pro-kike as they come.
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>>110983
>designed to dramatically reduce their standards of living by making everything less affordable?
I don't see how when this is going to (And currently) causing prices to fall. As companies are going to want to offload as many assets (Like industrial metals and oil) as they can in order to pay back the banks who they're currently in debt to, and who are going to come knocking as they're busy selling off all of their assets (Like stocks and real estate) as well and preparing for the possibility of people making a run on the banks (Either to panic or buy stuff in excess as I'll explain in a bit), and that's going to result prices being cheaper for Americans as there's going to be more assets in the market than there is demand. Not to mention how countries like West Taiwan, who relies upon American food for a third of their population, are slapping their very own reciprocal tariffs, which is going to result in American farmers having an enormous amount of food that they have nothing to do with because it's going to be too expensive to export their products. So they'll also be flooding the markets, which is going to result in food prices going down.

The "only" shit we'll have to pay more for stuff is stuff that isn't manufactured in the U.S. like the iPhone and the Switch 2, the latter of which has already suspended pre-orders because of the tariffs placed upon Vietnam: https://archive.ph/JTIqJ
And even then, I don't see that being an issue when there's already more than enough tech-junk than we even know what to do. In fact, we're throwing them into landfills by the truckoad because globalism has made them so worthless that it's cheaper to trash a broken device than it is to recycle it for the purposes of harvesting the precious and industrial metal it uses.
>Trump is as pro-kike as they come.
Yet he still slapped tariffs on Israel. Yeah...
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>all this totally organic sperging over the tariffs
Guess Trump kicked another hornets nest with this one, nice. Here's hope he raises them further, just to piss you fags off even more.
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>>110985
>Here's hope he raises them further, just to piss you fags off even more
I hope to God he does, there's going to be a lot of excellent stocks worth pennies nickles.
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>>110986
>Defense portfolio: to the moon
<Consumer goods and trinkets: penny stocks
The world is healing. May all daytraders jump out of their 13th floor manhattan shoebox studio onto 5th ave
>>110986
Indeed, the best times to buy will be coming up.
>>110984
>I don't see how
You seriously don't see how adding massives tax on huge swathes of goods is going to increase prices on those goods?
>The "only" shit we'll have to pay more for stuff is stuff that isn't manufactured in the U.S.
Yeah, no shit. And the reason the US has a standard of living as high as it does is because of how much cheaper that is.
When Zion Don complains that trade with shitholes like Lesotho is "unequal", he's not complaining that Lesotho is cheating or doing something underhanded. He's saying "damn, those niggers make blue jeans for 15¢ a day, not $15 an hour. I wish all our American goyim were dirt poor and worked for pennies too".

It's honestly fucking depressing to see "anons" sucking circumcised cock so hard.
>>110990
<You seriously don't see how adding massives tax on huge swathes of goods is going to increase prices on those goods?
ESLnigger detected. Why is a EU resident complaining about American policy?
Don't you have mosque to attend? I think the ramadan bombathon is almost done, unplug from the net and enjoy the eid feast with your imported village of inbred kaffirs.
Goods prices increasing isnt a bad thing, retard. Goylife consumerism should be stopped, and this is a good way to wean normalcattle away from it
With all the pant shitting you are doing, i highly doubt you have any constructive alternatives that would work besides some reddit-fueled tripe about race based communism sponsored by megacorps
>>110990
>Its honestly depressing
Then kill yourself already
Yeah, so the guy complaining that trump "tanked" the market back in January? Now is when you're supposed to complain. Not then.
>soydomites have to pay more for their imported iphones, nike sneakers, vape pens, jewelry, luxury clothes, gay decorations, nintendo toys, funko pops, buttplugs and drugs
>humans pay less for our healthy food, water, electricity and other stuff made in america, while we get our jollies making love with our wives and watching pirated anime
lol
>>110990
>"I wish all our American goyim were dirt poor and worked for pennies too"
I wish wageslaves worked for pennies too so NEETs/retirees can afford to buy much more with our welfare dollars
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>>110978
So, update on this, I decided to go through all of the stocks in my "considering" list (As in stocks that I don't own, but may look to acquire if they suit my desires), and I noticed that the so-called "massive" selloff on Thursday and Friday was vastly overblown. Because for a lot of them, their prices were not "that" much different from where things were back in January (Before Trump was in office). I know things compound, where I'm looking at a "single" share price while many of these institutions deal with billions of shares all at once, but how is it posible to put yourself in a postion that you're going to go "bankrupt" four months later because a single government administration made a policy change?
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>>110990
Please understand. Being baste and pilpuled means being a cocksleeve to billionaires now.
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>>111022
Don't feed the ESLnigger any (You)'s, he/xe/it has dependency issues
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>>111021
>how is it posible to put yourself in a postion that you're going to go "bankrupt" four months later because a single government administration made a policy change?
>>111024
That's alright. I didn't expect you to think.
Out of curiosity, what would happen if some maniac decided to sell a $100 stock for $1 at the start of tomorrow?
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>>111057
A few others would decide to sell at $98.
Nobody that matters is doing direct stuff anymore, anon, it's all just automatic 15 years old algos. Why don't you dream of winning a lottery you never play instead? It should be funnier than markets going 40 years back in time and just as plausible.
>>111057
Put simply, there is actually no such thing as a $100 stock. There's a bid price and an ask price. So you probably have someone asking $100 for like 1,000 shares of stock someone bidding 99.99 for 100 shares 99.98 for another 100 shares, etc. So if you put a limit sell at $1, it will be sold to the highest bidder and they will get 99.99 for it.

That said some stocks have thinner order books, so if its very thinly traded so there might not be any bidders for a dollar or so. But usually market makers (the people your broker sells your info to) will try to pick up the trade so instead of $99 they might buy it for somewhere close to the mid and maybe you get 99.50 instead.
To summarize, you need to exhaust all the buyers to move the price down or exhaust all the sellers to move it up.
I heard america changed its mind and isn't doing tariffs anymore? Is this good or bad for anime?
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>>111078
anime is saved
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>>111078
>and isn't doing tariffs anymore
No, the tariffs are still in place.
What happened is that Trump announced that there will be a "pause" of sorts for 75 yet-to-be-named nations. For those 75 specific countries, over the next 90 days, they are going to be subjected to the "standard" 10% tariff instead of whatever high percentage tariff they were originally slapped with up here: >>110961
And the "goal" of those 90 days is to reach a more reasonable trade agreement with those 75 countries. If no agreement is reached by the time those three months are up, then the tariffs revert back to their original percentages. In additon, Trump has also made it clear that this deal does not apply West Taiwan, who is now experiencing a 125% tariff, nor anyone else who he considers to have "retaliated" against him (Bets are on the EU also being left out).

So to put it simply, nothing has really changed. The tariffs are still in place and active, it's just that they're not "as bad". But that isn't stopping a bunch of retards from treating it like Trump somehow "lost" his round.
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>>111080
>In additon, Trump has also made it clear that this deal does not apply West Taiwan, who is now experiencing a 125% tariff, nor anyone else who he considers to have "retaliated" against him (Bets are on the EU also being left out).
Also some clarification on the tariffs for Leafland and Mexico: https://archive.ph/toJnH
<Canada and Mexico were among the first countries to be specifically targeted with tariffs by the Trump administration, with a sweeping 25 percent rate on all goods. This was announced in February, then paused for a month, but did eventually take effect in early March.
<Importantly, these tariffs don’t affect goods already covered by the USMCA trade pact, meaning that a large proportion of North American trade remains unaffected by the new tariffs. Canada has responded with retaliatory tariffs. Mexico hasn’t but isn’t “ruling it out.”
<Canada and Mexico are unaffected by the wave of “reciprocal tariffs” Trump announced on April 2nd, including the 10 percent baseline tariff applied to the rest of the world. There was a little confusion on that front. Even White House officials seemed to briefly think the 10 percent rate applied across North America — but it’s since been confirmed that Canada and Mexico are exempt.
>>111080
May 1, 150 USD charge on all incoming chinese packages.
June 1, 250 USD charge on all incoming chinese packages.
Better get your knockoffs before then.
Why does it not seem to be getting through people's thick skulls that perhaps it's not a smart idea to have manufacturing entirely based in a foreign country that's an ocean (Not even a border) away from your main customer base for the exact reason that's currently taking place?

Also I absolutely hate the fact that's Trump's doing the concessions like the pauses and temporary exceptions. I understand "why" he's doing it (To prevent the economy from collapsing overnight once people realize how much we screwed ourselves over just to save a few bucks), but I feel like it's only delaying the inevitable that he's either going to have to push them through without restraint and exactly as people "feared" he would or stop wasting people's time with this bullshit and don't do anything at all.

In case you need some context, this is with the announcement that tech is excluding from the tariffs.
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>>111171
Never mind!
I'm a fucking idiot who forgets that the news absolutely LOVES to leave details out: https://archive.ph/B6ICY
<As Trump adviser Stephen Miller points out, the products are still "subject to the tariff under the original IEEPA on China of 20 percent."
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>>111176
so he cucked on the 104% and went down to 20% because of his screeching manchild fanbase that were shitting and pissing their adult diapers with fear and rage over the idea of paying double for their video game machines and anal vibrators?
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>>111210
There's a good /biz/ board on 8moe now
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economy collapse survival kit:
1. rifle
2. vehicle
3. list of addresses of prepping grifters
things that won't help: buttcoins, gold, silver, stocks
Yo, tariffs starting in the next week!

Any other news happening or is that about it?
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>>112272
And they're going into effect and stocks are tumbling again. Think it will go lower than April?
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Apparently Winnie is banning Bitcoin, again: https://xcancel.com/TheBreakingRprt/status/1951862918401704014#m
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>>112352
Good.
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I have a guy offering to give me 30k in bitcoin. He's insisting on me sending him 300 bucks first with pic related as the reason. It's supposed to be an automated message from his trading client. Is there any chance that this is real and not just a scam?
>>112730
Obviously, the thing's too good to be true. There's also the broken english. The whole thing smells like a pajeet scam.
>>112730
Reminds me of the time I got charged $300 for a norton subscription i didn't have and had to go through weird refund steps. somehow made a mistake and ended up having to pay them back with google play store gift cards.
>>112730
this reminde of that one anon that gave away thousands of ethereum back in 8/b/ years ago difference is that it was legit and I lost the wallet
>>112730
I'll send you $1,000,000 if you send me $5,000 to cover the processing fee. ;)
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>>112735
yes, it sounds stupid, but you really don't want to miss the off-chance that it's real. Richfags have given away money like this, on a whim. I was willing to go along with it until he suddenly started asking for cash and his english broke down. As we were talking, the twitter guy with an english name and white-guy pfp became almost incomprehensible.
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>>112352
>a month ago
Why was there no crash? There was no ban?
>>112730
>>112736
>totally legit password reset link
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>>112826
>the soy gaper takes up 60% of the video
>the actual news is a static thumbnail
>the soypinions are subbed with a huge obnoxious font so the phoneposter can jerk off to it under the desk with the video muted at school or in the wage cage while pretending to work
if cuckservatives can't ban tiktok or men in women's bathrooms they couldn't do shit about insider trading even if they wanted to
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>>112835
genital police are keys jangling to keep you distracted from the insider trading.
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>>112905
money and everything related to money are jangling keys to keep you distracted from mating.
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>>112906
I am completely undistracted, I don't have money or bitches.
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Have you guys heard about "Goldbacks" at all?

I'm asking because I just left a coin convention today, and found some of the venders there selling these things. One of them handed out a "half-back" for free, and I spent $17 getting two different versions of the 1GB denomination. The "sales pitch" for them is that these things are 24 karot strips of gold (With the different denominations tied to their size, and their increased amount of gold in said strip contributing to said increase in size and hence denominational value) that are suppose to be used as an alternative method of payment. This entire project comes to us from a company based out of Utah who have allied with other precious metal dealers such as Alpine Gold. Apparently it's already accepted widely in Utah, and Florida just passed a law back in July that eliminates the tax on precious metal transactions altogether and further solidfying this as a possible concept. You can find their website here: https://www.goldback.com/

From what I understand of it, the idea "seems" sound. However the reservations I have with the implementation is (1) cash is not as widely used as much as it really should be which hampers the concept of an alternate method of making payments being a physical currency that you have to hold in your hot little fists (Though still I would back this idea anyday to absolutely anything having to do with cryptocurrencies where the value is nothing except data on a computer) and (2) there's the monopolistic problem that only one company is making these things (And thereby meaning that they have the sole control over the market viability and future of the Goldbacks). Outside of an outright de-dollarization, I don't see anything really addressing my first complaint, which would mostly relegate these to primarily existing as collector's items. However the second complaint I could see being lessened if there was at least another company or two in the market making these (As it would both back the legitmacy of the concept as more companies are making them, and require them to keep each other in check to prevent the in-the-future market for these from collapsing), if for no other reason that I can finally have an "official" currency using anime pictures (The current images they have are nice and pretty, but I feel like there is just little variety).

But those are my thoughts. What are you're guy's takes on the concept?
>>113045
It's hard to check and make sure there actually is gold in there, which is a large part of the point of using gold as currency in the first place.
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>>113045
The idiocy of tulip hucksters (and their dupes) truly seems to know no bounds.
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>>113050
>It's hard to check and make sure there actually is gold in there
A lot of people on Jewtube had confirmed that it isn't a scam in that respect, as they've performed every test to verify that the goldbacks are legit.
>which is a large part of the point of using gold as currency in the first place
I disagree because it sounds like what you're concerned about it the melt value (As if you were going to be using this to making other gold products), not actual utility. From my understanding of the idea, if you're going to be using gold as "money", then the most important aspect is it's tranferability. Which brings forward the question of what is easier to have on hand, a coin purse or a wallet?
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>>113072
Lol. Even lmoa. Seeing crypto-bros get got is a very nice feeling. 
>>113045
It's a neat little project that appeals to my "fuck the government" heart. But a couple of issues. One, everyone is going in on gold because of hesitations on the economy, petrodollar. While I have seen reports that gold may tick higher, I wouldn't trust this for more then random discretionary day to day spending. And until you can pay taxes with it, it has the same value as other commodities, namely what someone is willing to pay for it. Finally, the major concern I personally have is how the printing operation financially sustains itself. If it is an eccentric oil tycoon who also hates the government, with enough passive income to sustain an independent currency operation, it will be fine. If it is a "non-profit" that is running on donations, that is also acceptable. Governments consider maintaining, printing currency as one of their obligations, and the tithe they collect (in theory) goes partially to that endeavor. If people work, like putting gold into shiny paper, they tend to want to be paid. And all it takes is for one kike in the process to start skimming gold to devalue the whole lot. Right now there is not enough information provided on their website. Contracts to fabricate currency, and mints are, after millenia of kike tricks, heavily watched. I would also want "silver backs" for smaller transactions. And eventually this is just recreating the gold standard, and finding out that while devaluation of gold is harder, it is still possible. It is just not the topic of today, because manipulation of oil prices is the method of today.
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>>113073
>And until you can pay taxes with it
I remember even pro-crypto people pointing out that being the biggest obstacle towards Bitcoin or something else becoming used widespread. That so long as taxes are required to be paid in dollars (Or whatever currency it is for the country you live in), it is unrealistic to expect an alternative non-governmental currency to actually be viable short of outright dedollarization. IIRC, the "closest" that ever came was during the staglfation of the 70's as people started resorting to bartering.
>Finally, the major concern I personally have is how the printing operation financially sustains itself.
From what I learned and they have disclosed, it's because the premium for a goldback is twice the price of spot. So like right now, gold is trading at $4018. If you were to buy a 1GB, which is 1/1000 an ounce of gold, you're paying the premium price of $8.15 as opposed to the spot price of $4.02. At least in this interview, the company is justifying it on the basis that "everything" costs a premium compared to the raw materials used to make it, from the car you drive to even national currencies (So like how an American quarter is "worth" 25 cents while the actual melt value is 6.3 cents): https://odysee.com/@WatchmanPrivacy:1/Goldbacks:1
>And all it takes is for one kike in the process to start skimming gold to devalue the whole lot.
I think that may not be an issue "for now" because of how obscure these things are (They have existed for the past six years, a couple states have even adopted them, yet none of us were even aware of them until a couple days ago) and, like you said, everyone's currently focussed on oil price manipulation. But I wouldn't be surprised if other parties are quick to jump on them because apparently silver prices are skyrocketing through the roof even before the Fed shutdown: https://rumble.com/v6zy0b2-monday-morning-news-update-lets-talk....html
So I do agree that they do need some outside groups constantly scrutinizing and testing these things to verify that they are indeed 100% gold like they say they are. If not another company making a "competitor" to the goldback that is the same exact thing in all but name.

No matter what it is, you are correct that we do need more eyes on this, if for no other reason than just to prove if these are legitmate.
>>113074
>the premium
>justified by literally deteriorating assets like vehicles
Yeah, until there's a competition, and the real cost of making a gold "paper" currency is tested in the market by private companies, where they keep each other in check with randomized testing, I will hold off. As far as I am concerned, it's just another novelty that appeals to coin collectors, who are already used to paying premiums for things like "rarity". Where they literally gave some away to get interest. At the moment, I will continue to argue other investments. Like real estate. Or numbers on a screen that are closer to that spot price. Even a money market fund that is only cash, and cash equivalents.
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>>113074
>strong empowered womyn riding horses
this is why white birthrates are below replacement level. everything about this is, not just the design.
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are you ready to give money to chatgpt that will totally not betray you?
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>>113220
are millions of retards letting chatgpt trade with their money while sam altman uses that data to pump and dump their negholes all day?
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>>113227
That almost sounds sexual.
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>>113113
What do YOU want the pictures to be? Big burley men with manboobs doing "manly things" like exercising, or cow hustling, or professional wrestling?
What are you, gay?

>>113227
>are millions of retards letting chatgpt trade with their money
Unironically, yes. And think, the people who are doing this the most are those with a college degree.
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>>113235
>Accuses gay
>posts gay
What is it then?
Anyway, I'm not that anon, but a better design would be a normal MAN cowboy, or a woman in the kitchen, or playing with kids or alike.
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>>113113
>sees a woman on a horse
>starts sperging about strong empowered womyn and white birthrates
City slicker detected. Go buy your overpriced groceries and pay your electricity bill.
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>>113237
I don't have to I'm on welfare, and it's not that EBT/SNAP shit that niggers are losing next week either.

On that note I hope any americans here have stocked up a few months of food before niggers loot/burn it all.
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>>113238
>yuropoor
Socialists don't get to discuss /biz/. Back to the breadline with you!
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>>113238
>>113243
Why does the rest of the world have this mindset that the U.S. is "literally" resorting to fighting in the streets while "King Cheetoh" is busy making a dance hall for his busy butt buddies? I understand people thinking that about NYC, Chicago, Oregon, and Souther California; but everywhere else in the country? Seriously, I live in a "major city" and practically nothing has changed.
>>113245
This post will age poorly if the welfare monkeys in your city actually don't get their food stamps for more than a week or two. What do you think they're going to do, get jobs?
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>>113246
>What do you think they're going to do
Absolutely fucking nothing aside from bitch on the internet. It's fucking freezing outside and October is not even over. Rampaging chimpanzees are not fucking around in the cold seeking to start a revolution. They're not Russians.
>>113245
The only people bitching about this are the welfare queens in the military and the niggers on food stamps, and they were already chimping out because the RFK with a worm in his brain instead of a bullet stopped them from being able to buy grape soda with them.
>>113245
Something actually happened in burgerland? I don't follow any news.
>>113243
>calling all europoors socialists
Hey, fuck off mate.
Also, depending on how you deal with welfare, it can be a very nice way of saying: "fuck this fake and gay system, I ain't working for it". Being a welfare parasite on an evil system doesn't sound so bad morally.
Though personally I actually work, though my boss and job is pretty aight.
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>>113255
>Something actually happened in burgerland?
Not at all. The "biggest" news items for the past couple weeks related to America are the "No Kings" marches ("No Tyrants" for those in Leafland and the U.K.), that one girl at Twitchcon receiving a big wet-one, and Cheetoh-Man adding a ballroom to the White House. That should tell you the "level" of "unrest" that America is currently suffering, that some social media drama about a guy shocking his dog is "as important" as Trump flying to Asia for trade talks.
>calling all europoors socialists
Well, you are.
>Being a welfare parasite on an evil system doesn't sound so bad morally.
And all the people who's suffering you're living off of as they're taxed out of home and household while you're living large is...of absolutely no concern to you? Or the fact that you are only allowed access to that welfare so long as you agree to be an employee of the government?
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>>113255
Can you name me one nation state in western yurope that is not socialist?
I'll wait.EU(USSR 2.0) nation states are de facto socialist, so don't try to pull some cope line about Luxembourg or Switzerland
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>>113257
>don't try to pull some cope line about Luxembourg or Switzerland
Switzerland recently jailed a man for say that skeletons reflect sex.
>>113256
>you are only allowed access to that welfare so long as you agree to be an employee of the government?
On welfare you're taking money away from the system and you can spend most of it on products from foreign countries of your choice to remove some of that wealth from your country's economy entirely. You can also spend some of your free time spreading propaganda against your government and advocating for welfare to be abolished, but as long as welfare is available you have to choose whether to be one of the suckers slaving your short life away and having half your paycheck stolen or not. With any kind of legal profession that involves paying taxes you're actively supporting the system.
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>>113238
>I don't have to I'm on welfare
Okay, I'll revise my post.

>pretentious welfare bum sees a woman on a horse
>starts sperging about strong empowered womyn and white birthrates
City slicker detected. Go buy your overpriced groceries and pay your electricity bill.
>>113259
>With any kind of legal profession that involves paying taxes you're actively supporting the system.
That's not how it works. I cannot speak for Europoor countries but the American taxation system allows for numerous incredible ways to escape having to pay taxes. For example, business owners are only taxed on their "profit", as in the amount of money left over after all your "expenses" have all been taken care of. Contrast that to wage slaves who are taxed their entire annual income even before expenses. Then there's the fact that you're only taxed on capital gains if you make over $50k as long as you haven't ALSO suffered any "losses" in stocks sold.

Then there's also interesting statistics like how the top 10% of income earners in the U.S. (Making at least $180k per year) are the one's footing over 70% of the taxes due: https://archive.ph/3oFpN
Meanwhile the bottom 40% of income earners effective have a net zero or negative tax rate: https://archive.ph/RK81r
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>>113266
Every dollar you pay in taxes funds the government so the best way to not be a tool of the system is to not work, and collect any gibs you can. If you found some way to legally work while also getting more welfare than you're paying in taxes that's good, but it'd be even better if you were just on welfare and not paying any of those work-related taxes.
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>>113269
>Every dollar you pay in taxes funds the government
A common myth not supported by any actual empirical research. For an entity that issues the currency used to tax, taxation is not about raising money, it's about currency control.
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>>113271
The point still stands that paying taxes helps the gov and you could use every one of those dollars to buy stuff from foreign countries that are unfriendly with america instead.
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>>113269
>the best way to not be a tool of the system is to not work, and collect any gibs you can
So you become an absolute tool in order to "defy" the system?

>>113272
>use every one of those dollars to buy stuff from foreign countries
And still end up paying taxes? Like what I have to do with my Japanese stocks.
>that are unfriendly with america instead.
The countries that want me dead and filleted? And STILL require me to pay taxes. No, fuck off.
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>>113273
A nanny state would rather have "rebels" who think they're sticking it to the government by relying on it than actual rebels or people who are mostly independent of it and can do whatever the fuck they want.
>>113273
>So you become an absolute tool in order to "defy" the system?
In what way do you think being on welfare makes you useful to the government? If you're a retarded nigger that votes democrat because they say they're going to give you more gibs sure, but if you're not retarded you can be on welfare while voting/advocating against welfare. Imagine you're playing a game or sport professionally and there's an unfair strategy that ruins the game for everyone and most players want it banned, but everyone uses it because you lose if you don't and everyone needs the money. Then you come in and say "come on guys let's all just stop using it voluntarily!" and you lose every single game. Your career continues for the next 50 years with you losing every game and having a far lower quality of life than the other players as a result, until you're old enough to retire and get on social security gibs then die of old age shortly after. Then you don't even get an afterlife, you were just told that so you wouldn't value your time in this life much to trick you into wageslaving it all away.
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>>113275
>collect welfare in a welfare state
>pat yourself on the back for being a genius who's gaming the system
I bet you fight gay rights by sucking dicks at a gay bar for free protein.
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<In what way do you think sucking cocks makes you useful to homosexuals? If you're a retarded faggot that votes democrat because they say they're going to give you more gay rights sure, but if you're not retarded you suck cocks while voting/advocating against homosexuality. Imagine you're playing a game or sport professionally and there's an unfair strategy that ruins the game for everyone and most players want it banned, but everyone uses it because you lose free protein if you don't and everyone needs the gains. Then you come in and say "come on guys let's all just stop using it voluntarily!" and you lose your gains. Your career continues for the next 50 years with you losing all your gains and having a far lower intake of protein than the other players as a result, until you're old enough to retire and get on a wheelchair then die of weakness shortly after. Then you don't even go to Gensokyo, you were just told that so you wouldn't value your time in this life much to trick you into nogains-slaving it all away.
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>>113257
Its like calling all burgers jews, just because they're ruled by them. The rulers aren't an accurate sample/representation of the population of any given country.
>>113256
>And all the people who's suffering you're living off of as they're taxed out of home and household while you're living large
Do you have any idea how modern money works? Welfare is practically money printing, there is next to no actual """wealth redistribution""". Taxes are used to make the working population just poor enough that they don't have any dangerous ideas.
And again: I don't live on welfare, I actually work, so shut up.
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>>113276
NTA but do you seriously think you can "fight" the system by slaving 40 hours a week at some soul sucking job? Or do you think that after an 8 hour work day you have enough time and energy to *then* fight the system?
Anyway, like 10% of population or less does any work of actual value, everyone else has bullshit jobs that help no one, and they exist only to keep people busy. If you're not actually growing food, fixing important shit or alike, then you might as well leech of that system. And if you're doing important stuff you're probably set up to be independent anyway.
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>>113277
No, answer the question the other anon posed, mr faggot.
"In what way do you think being on welfare makes you useful to the government?"
How does the system benefit from another leech? Actually, not even a leech, since they just turn on the money printer for all """leeches""" like that. How does a system benefit from someone who doesn't slave away at some job?
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>>113275
>In what way do you think being on welfare makes you useful to the government?
Because it means that you're living under their thumb and reliant upon them for your next source of money and food. It's for a similar reason why breadlines exist. Because the time you spend waiting in those lines is time that you cannot spend doing something else.
>but if you're not retarded you can be on welfare while voting/advocating against welfare
No, you won't. Because you cannot risk the possibility of that welfare ending.
>Imagine you're playing a game or sport professionally and there's an unfair strategy that ruins the game for everyone and most players want it banned, but everyone uses it because you lose if you don't and everyone needs the money.
I'd consider either staying true to my laurels or dropping the sport entirely, because what you just described is exactly what happened with the Olympics when they began allowing professional athletes to compete. And just about every other professional sport where they "allow" the usage of drugs.

There's more important things than "winning".
>until you're old enough to retire and get on social security gibs
Why would I be reliant upon the government to fund my later years instead of my own stock portfolio? Especially if I'm a professional athelete and I'm making all that money. In fact, speaking of pros, there's actually dozens of sports teams who NEVER have a real chance of ever winning a major sporting event, but those people still play for the love of the game and it brings in a decent amount of money.

>>113282
>Welfare is practically money printing
No, it's not. It's wealth redistribution.
>Taxes are used to make the working population just poor enough that they don't have any dangerous ideas.
Yes, which is why ALL taxes are applied to, and paid for, by the rich.

>>113283
>NTA but do you seriously think you can "fight" the system by slaving 40 hours a week at some soul sucking job?
If that's "all" you do with your life, no. What do you do between 5 PM to 9 AM and on the weekends is what matters most.
>Or do you think that after an 8 hour work day you have enough time and energy to *then* fight the system?
Why not? We're living in the best living conditions in history, have the highest health care in history, have access to near unlimited foods and supliments. Not to mention all the crazy gadgets that allow for you to plan every moment of every day, and have things automated for you at a push of a button. Things have never been easier. Contrast that to just a century ago where you were "wealthy" if you had access to a fucking stagecoach.
>like 10% of population or less does any work of actual value, everyone else has bullshit jobs that help no one
How do you determine that?
>and they exist only to keep people busy
Please explain, in intricate detail, how the logistics for creating such a system work. Especially in a society where people personally choose their occupations instead of being forced into them.
>If you're not actually growing food, fixing important shit or alike, then you might as well leech of that system.
Never mind, we're talking to a fucking Communist, repeating Herbert ((( Marcuse )))'s Marxist philosphy about how Capitalism creates "false needs".
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>>113286
>No, it's not. It's wealth redistribution.
>she actually believes in the """wealth redistribution""" meme
Lmao, pathetic.
>she also defends working 8 hours 5 days a week
Holy shit, what next?
>she thinks there's no "fake and gay" jobs
>she thinks bureaucrat paper pushers and fat whale cashiers actually provide something valuable to society
It just keeps going!
>the time you spend waiting in those lines is time that you cannot spend doing something else.
>BuT WaGe SlAvInG iS DiFfErEnT, YoU cAn tOtAlLy dO OtHeR ThInGs wHiLe yOu sPeNd 8+ HoUrS DaIlY WoRkInG!

I got the retard bingo!
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>>113286
>Yes, which is why ALL taxes are applied to, and paid for, by the rich.
Imagine doing PR for rich people for free because you imagine yourself to be a temporarily embarrassed millionaire.  The poor and vanishing middle class are getting fucked six ways to Sunday on taxation in the US while the wealthy get some kind of amazing new tax break every decade, and yet you're still defending them.
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>>113289
Now that is terror.
>>113286
>you're living under their thumb and reliant upon them
>No, you won't. Because you cannot risk the possibility of that welfare ending
Sounds like you're very weak, cowardly and dependent on the system you're a part of and you're projecting that onto me. I have high testosterone, a high IQ, many useful skills to do freelance work or live in the woods if I needed to, no illnesses, have never been on any medication, haven't been to a doctor since I was forced to take vaccines as a toddler, and do not have a slave mentality. I'll be perfectly fine when my gibs are inevitably cutoff, I'm prepared for it to happen at any time in this dying system.
>There's more important things than "winning"
In that analogy "winning" means enjoying your life instead of wageslaving. There's nothing more important than enjoying your life.
>What do you do between 5 PM to 9 AM and on the weekends is what matters most
From 1-8 AM you're sleeping, from 8-9 you're dreading going to work and rushing to get ready or maybe this entire hour is spent commuting, and you're doing at the very least 1 hour of work-related chores after work and maybe 1 hour of commuting which leaves you with ~6 hours of life per weekday instead of the 16 that people who aren't slaves enjoy. If you work year-round minus weekends and holidays you're spending about half of the hours in your life working. Are the expensive material possessions you collect really worth sacrificing half your life?
>Contrast that to just a century ago where you were "wealthy" if you had access to a fucking stagecoach
>We're living in the best living conditions in history
If you're on welfare maybe, otherwise your QoL is lower than a free man with a beautiful family living off the land in the past. Notice how all the worst horror stories throughout history are about faggots gathered together in cities and not about people living happily in rural areas away from civilization, enjoying the real pleasures in life like making love with your wife/wives for as many hours a day as you want and raising your own kids instead of letting mentally ill obese whores and fags raise them at school, while your farmhands do most of the labor.
>have the highest health care in history
Eat healthier and you won't have health problems. Always read the nutrition facts and ingredients.
>all the crazy gadgets that allow for you to plan every moment of every day
Expensive gadgets don't make you any happier than the cheap ones you can get on welfare. I got a $3K gaming PC and it isn't any more fun than a $600 one. Huge 75" 4K TVs are only $400.
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>>113299
>I have high testosterone, a high IQ, many useful skills to do freelance work or live in the woods if I needed to, no illnesses, have never been on any medication, haven't been to a doctor since I was forced to take vaccines as a toddler, and do not have a slave mentality
Okay, then why the Hell are you trying to justify your logic and opinions on one of the most obscure (and practically dead) Mongolian basket weaving forums to exist on the net?
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Let me guess: this is the same muslim welfare queen who pops up here every so often to brag about how smart he is for collecting gibs and how stupid white people are for working.
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>>113283
>NTA but do you seriously think you can "fight" the system by slaving 40 hours a week at some soul sucking job? Or do you think that after an 8 hour work day you have enough time and energy to *then* fight the system?
Even beyond the exhaustion from your workload, if you're living paycheck to paycheck as an indebted wageslave or bumming off welfare, you probably won't do much to upset the status quo because you depend on that steady income to live and are terrified of losing it. You might say shit anonymously on an imageboard (anyone can do that) or among friends, and vote as you please, but if you feel like speaking up at your job or in public could put that income at risk, you're probably going to keep your head down IRL in a way you wouldn't if you had fuck you money or nothing to lose.
>>113284
>In what way do you think being on welfare makes you useful to the government?
>How does the system benefit from another leech? How does a system benefit from someone who doesn't slave away at some job?
To tie into what I said above, it's insurance against instability. The demographic governments worry most about as most likely to rebel or cause chaos is dissatisfied young men with nothing to lose. If they can get Mr. High Testosterone & IQ (and probable kebab) over here living carelessly on a small stipend, he's set. He can talk all he wants but is for all intents and purposes out of the picture, as he'll grow sloppy and has something to lose if he really steps out of line.
This isn't a great long term strategy for a multitude of reasons, and it doesn't have a 100% success rate, but it "works."
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>>113300
That's a good question but you can ask that of anyone here. I'd like to find somewhere online that isn't full of dumb cowardly NPCs shilling for the system they claim to oppose but I haven't found anywhere like that.
>>113301
Pointing out how muslims are the only ones that ever actually do anything to oppose jewish tyranny doesn't make me a muslim.
>>113302
>you probably won't do much to upset the status quo because you depend on that steady income to live and are terrified of losing it
>you're probably going to keep your head down
I don't think being a cowardly bitch is something based on probability that you have no control over, optimistically I believe that if you drastically improve your diet and build some muscle it will raise your testosterone enough so that you don't have such cowardly feminine thoughts anymore. I've also heard that exhaust fumes/smog could be what's causing most modern men, especially city dwellers to have such low T so you could try moving to a more rural area (and also stop eating junk food).
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>>113312
>but you can ask that of anyone here
Not really. You're the ONLY one who seems to have ALL of the answers. Therefore, you have zero reason to post here. If anything, it seems more like you know what you're saying is wrong, but you cannot admit it, so you're going to whatever site for the purposes of justify your actions.
>I'd like to find somewhere online that isn't full of dumb cowardly NPCs shilling for the system they claim to oppose but I haven't found anywhere like that
And thank you for confirming everything that I just said.
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>>113313
Nothing about this post makes any sense. Why do you believe a smart person wouldn't spend time on small anime imageboards? Do you believe the midwit grifters in the podcasts you listen to or on social media are the epitome of human intelligence and I should be doing that instead of wasting my time here? Then you claim that something I said is wrong without stating why you believe it's wrong, maybe because something I said made you feel bad but you can't come up with any factual argument to back up that emotional nonsense?
>And thank you for confirming everything that I just said
Are you implying that because things I say would be unpopular with the unwashed masses of 90 IQ niggercattle phoneposters that is proof that I'm wrong? Because conformity = truth to you?
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>>113317
>Why do you believe a smart person wouldn't spend time on small anime imageboards?
You're either literally and unironically autistic, or actually retarded. That post wasn't calling you "smart".
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>>113312
Physical fitness and health does give you strength, and they're good to have, but you need to know how to use it. There are millions of gym rats out there who strut and preen, but otherwise keep their heads down at their wageslave jobs, remain in debt, and make no moves to reduce their dependence on the system. You aren't an exception to this: you're very loud about how strong and healthy you are, and how you have all these skills you could hypothetically use and how you could be independent if you wanted, yet you still depend on welfare and bristle at the suggestion of doing otherwise. Someone who had real strength and skills would find your life incredibly boring and unmasculine, and seek real independence or some form of monasticism.
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>>113322
You've been conditioned to believe that masculinity is attained by serving corporations rather than by physical and mental strength, and that independence means serving others with your labor instead of doing what you want with every hour of every day. Only a masochist with an obedience fetish could get "bored" of not following orders. Even if you're a freelance worker you're still following your customers' orders. When I'm in the mood to do something productive I work on hobby projects, making them exactly how I want them with no pressure to follow trends or dumb them down to make them more profitable, because I don't need any money.
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>>113338
>I talk about wageslaves being beaten down and too tired and indebted to do shit
>somehow I'm also "conditioned to believe that masculinity is attained by serving corporations"
Yeah, >>113318 was right.
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>>113322
What course(s) of action would you recommend for wageslaves and welfare rats who want to escape the system?
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>>113318
NTA but you seem like the only retard here.
The other anon asked Mr high iq, test, etc why is someone *like him* on an imageboard.
>>113340
I think there's just been some confusion on who's saying what, who's the billionaire defender retard, who's another welfare supporter, etc.
>>113344
Wageslaves should graduate into welfare rats, those should get fit and learn practical skills, and look to escape the cities. I dunno all the details.
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Is this the new tactic? Fill productive threads with nothing but noise in order stifle any attempt at productive discussion.

Dude, we've SEEN what welfare and Islam does to nations. It turns them into absolute shitholes.
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>>113381
>people who disagree with me are just subversive elements trying to undermine my deluded fantasy world
You are at the bottom rung in the critical thinking ladder, anon.  Level up.
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>>113381
Your nation already has welfare and if you're not receiving it you're paying for it. You can't opt out of the welfare system but you can choose whether you're one of the thieves or one of the victims.
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>>113384
>Your nation already has welfare
No, it doesn't. Welfare has been gone for the past month because of the government shutdown. Weren't you the one to "predicted" that niggers are going to be rioting over the loss of their SNAP benefits?
>you're paying for it
No, I'm not. Almost no one has to ANY paxes until April 20th every year. Everything "paid" prior to that date is effectively a "no interest" down-payment on the "total taxes" you are required to pay by that day. But if you so choose, you don't have to have any money taken out of your income. You could, if you want, receive 100% of your paycheck, invest that portion (normally set aside for taxes) into stocks or precious metals, collect the dividends and/or capital gains, sell those investments when tax season rolls around to give the government their "dues", and make a nice profit in the process.
>>113385
>You could, if you want, receive 100% of your paycheck
I'm tempted to believe you've never held an actual job in the United States.  The payroll tax is deducted from your paycheck before you ever even receive it and you have absolutely no control over it.

But once again, federal welfare programs aren't funded by taxation in the first place.  The idea that they are is just propaganda peddled to trick the underclasses into fighting one against one another instead of their masters.
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>>113385
>>Your nation already has welfare
>No, it has been gone for the past month
How fucking retarded can you get. So all the years BEFORE last month somehow don't count? Holy shit, kill yourself asap.
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>>113386
>The payroll tax is deducted from your paycheck before you ever even receive it
No, it's not. When you are first hired for a job, you are required to fill out a form 1040. One of the primary purposes of that 1040 form is asking you how much money you want withheld from your paycheck for the purposes of paying your taxes next year. Most people go for the standard (20%) or let their employer decide (Was actually on the receiving end of that when I worked as a tax prepper earlier this year, and had to deliver the "surprise" news that their employer reduced their witholding without properly informing them), but you can decide to have none of it withheld or (Hypothetically) ALL of your money can be withheld.
>federal welfare programs aren't funded by taxation in the first place
Yes, they are.

>>113389
>So all the years BEFORE last month somehow don't count?
I don't know. Do they? I mean, you're going after my country for being a "welfare state" during the exact period that we currently are not. In fact, this entire shanfu defeats the Mudslimes entire argument about how you "defeat" the system by going on welfare because we currently exist in a state where welfare doesn't exist. So what are you going to do now that you can no longer collect that welfare?

And even excusing that this is a unique circumstance, yes, all the prior years suddenly "don't count" because we are not a welfare state as the near future is concerned (Especially when all signs are pointing to this shutdown not ending anytime soon). It's for the same exact reason you would be called a retard for accusing a country of being a "welfare state" just after they ended and outlawed welfare.
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>>113390
>When you are first hired for a job, you are required to fill out a form 1040. One of the primary purposes of that 1040 form is asking you how much money you want withheld from your paycheck for the purposes of paying your taxes next year.
I'm retarded I meant Form W-4.
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>>113385
I live in america and I'm still on welfare so clearly SNAP/EBT isn't the only kind, and I said wait a week or two for their stockpiles of bananas and watermelons to run out.
>You could, if you want, receive 100% of your paycheck, invest that portion (normally set aside for taxes) into stocks or precious metals, collect the dividends and/or capital gains, sell those investments when tax season rolls around to give the government their "dues", and make a nice profit in the process.
LOL that's still paying with money you earned, and what about sales tax, property tax and inflation (from gov printing money to give to nigs)?
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>>113393
>what about sales tax, property tax
Same thing as income tax. You're not actually paying the tax right then and there. It's the store collecting extra money that will be due for when they need to pay their taxes.
>and inflation
Inflation is not a tax, never has been. Are you saying that the government was "Taxing" gold owners when gold suffered inflation in the first half of the 80's? As the value of gold dropped from $670 to $291. Or was the government "taxing" Bitcoin owners as they saw their fictional currency suffer inflation as it's value relative to dollars dropped from $125k to currently $106k?
>It's the store collecting extra money that will be due for when they need to pay their taxes
which makes your groceries cost more because of welfare.
>Are you saying that the government was "Taxing" gold owners when gold suffered inflation in the first half of the 80's?
>Or was the government "taxing" Bitcoin owners as they saw their fictional currency suffer inflation
No I'm saying that inflation makes your groceries cost more because of welfare.
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>>113390
>>So all the years BEFORE last month somehow don't count?
>I don't know. Do they?
Jesus fuck, you are a total retard. Fuck off, seriously.
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>>113397
>your groceries cost more because of welfare
They would still "cost more" without welfare. Welfare is just "one program" that taxes are distributed towards. And if welfare didn't exist, they would find something else to spend that tax money on. Like more experiments on giving dolphins LSD.
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>>113074
Bought a few items with a couple of these yesterday, and found another problem with it gaining any validity. It stems from the fact that people are still tying the value to items to a certain number of dollars. Like I could get three of 1GB Goldbacks back when they amount 1GB was worth $7, watch as it's value raises to $9, and then walk into a store that accepts Goldbacks and walk out with $8 more in items than I could when I initially bought them. 

This is sort of confusing so let me explain. Let's say you're a person with a couple of chickens, and those chickens have produced 1 dozen eggs (Or 1DE). You sell that carton of a dozen eggs (Worth 1DE) for a price that you have pegged at $10. And let's say that something like the Goldback comes along, which you accept as payment. And in this scenario, the 1GB is also currently valued at $10. Now, something happens that causes the price of the Goldback to go up from $10 to $20. This screws you over because now you're receiving a 1/2GB instead of 1GB since you pegged the price of your eggs (1DE) to $10 despite the fact that the value of the eggs (Worth 1DE) hasn't changed. All that has changed is the value of the dollar, and you were too "slow" to pay attention.

And I feel like this is one SIGNIFICANT factor I don't think people have actually taken a step back and realized. There's this local game store I go to that has had dozens of games sitting on it's shelf for years on end and have been valued at $10 since before Corona-chan. If the guy actually priced his items accordingly to inflation, he should be relabeling those games as NOW being worth $13 (Now extend that to the entire store). But how do you think this is going to effect his business? He's already complaining about how he isn't making enough money and just trying to ride thinks out until his lease expires, so what's going to happen if he reprices his game to account for inflation? If you weren't already going to be buying Fantavision for $10, how about now when it's $15? But like I said, this is part of the problem, because he's tying to the value of the games in his story to his trust in the dollar's value.

So if anything is going to come along to replace or being an alternative to a local currency, whether it be Goldbacks or cyrpto or something else, one of the things that needs to happen is that people need to start assigning alternate valuations to items that is disconnected from the local currency's value. In addition, there's also the problem of trying to explain this concept to the idiots who think that this prices "just" go up simply because people are "evil" and "greedy".
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here at Goldbuck, we <3 nigger
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>>113045
>>113074
meanwhile actual globohomo currency designs look about 30x less gay
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>>113704
>designs look about 30x less gay
<Five coins are pictures of men
<One coin is celebrating the early Socialists
<And another is depicting a lewd act that leads to sex
>>113704
>quarter
On of those hands is a nigger, isn't?
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So, why is silver shooting up to $70?
I mean, it's great for the collection I've been building for the past couple years, as it means my personal wealth has practically doubled in the past few months, but I still want to know why.

>>113073
>I would also want "silver backs" for smaller transactions.
Update on this, they announced that they're officially putting "Silverbacks" into wide-scale production: https://archive.ph/XSpqg
However they were also quick to announce that  these are suppose to be "collector's items" as opposed to existing as "money": https://archive.ph/ZXJrE
<Goldbacks are a voluntary currency. Their value tracks double the spot price of gold. They are made to be saved or spent at thousands of businesses in the Goldback private business network.
<Silverbacks are collectibles. They aren’t meant for everyday transactions or bullion stacking. Their value comes from their collectibility, artwork, and storytelling. Past Silverback releases have appreciated over time based on collector demand rather than the spot price of silver.
>>113808
<Silverbacks are collectibles. They aren’t meant for everyday transactions 
Gay. 
>>I still want to know why.
Both equiies and gold are considered inflated, when markets expect it to be one or the other. So it shouldn't come as a shock that other precious metals are getting a bump.
>>113808
Now even the MSM is reporting on it, just as gold has hit $4500 and silver hast hit $71: https://archive.ph/yqRx1
>Gold and silver prices soar to new highs as the yellow metal reemerges as a hedge
I guess that means 2026 is going to be a fun year. Though I wonder how this tracks with gas prices now being under $2, at least where I live.
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>>113808
>>113854
Just about to hit $80
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>>113808
>>113854
>>113941
I think I found one of the reasons why silver is spiking:
>Trump’s 401(k) changes could dramatically impact your retirement account in 2026. Here's what you need to know
https://archive.ph/pPTQ3
<In August, an executive order signed by President Donald Trump (1) opened the door for certain “alternative assets” like private credit, private equity and cryptocurrencies to be included in 401(k)s, expanding what Americans can hold in their 401(k)s and other tax-advantaged retirement accounts.
<...
<Traditionally, some alternative assets — such as private equity and hedge funds — were restricted to "accredited investors” who either had a net worth of more than $1 million (excluding their primary residence) or annual income exceeding $200,000, according to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (2).
<However, the alternative asset landscape has changed over the years, and retail investors are showing growing interest in these investments. A survey by market research firm Opinium found that 21% of retail investors have considered alternative assets, and another 5% plan to invest in them (3).
<...
<For instance, gold is often viewed as an alternative asset that can offer your portfolio greater stability if stocks are shaky. The precious yellow metal is also on a historic bull run, with the spot price hitting a high of about $4,300 per ounce in October (4).

>Trump’s new 401(k) rules could shake up your 2026 retirement savings — are you ready?
https://archive.ph/hbSG9
<Alternative assets in 401(k): A recent US executive order now permits alternative assets like private credit, equity, and crypto in 401(k)s, offering diversification beyond traditional stocks and bonds. While proponents highlight broader investor access, experts caution about complex risks and limited liquidity. Financial advisors suggest a cautious allocation, typically 5-10%, to navigate these new opportunities.

This is pure speculation on my part, but it seems like Trump's plan to "save" the economy is getting everyone invested in everything and anything instead of having them rely ENTIRELY upon stocks and bonds. So unlike in '08 when all it took was the housing bubble to collapse and took everything with it, the economy is going to be far more diversified in where their wealth is located, which will soften any "major" shake-ups that occur (Like, I don't know, the AI bubble popping, or a PLA Invasion of Taiwan).
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>>113960
I've seen this pic posted twice already, what's the actual source of the article?
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>>113961
It has been revealed to me in a dream.
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>>113962
It's funny how Nikolai Berdyaev is now known to a bunch of internet people solely for that footnote.
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This year started with a bang as Trump just FREEDOMED Venezuela
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>>113941
And finally did!
>>113996
All in the service of Zionist cock.  Is America any better yet?  Chump.
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>>114007
>Is America any better yet?
I'm paying $20 less for gas than I was two years ago, for a start. Also my silver collection has doubled in value over the past year. My car insurance bill arrived and it's the same it was six months ago, after steadily rising the past few years. Wouldn't say everything is perfect, but I would say things have improved.
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>>114008
this is like that WKUK skit about raping Gandalf so brutally that he nearly dies, then giving him just enough time to recover before brutally raping him again, and repeating that cycle forever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPjHimyzjAE
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>>114011
>Are things getting better for you?
<Yes, such as with X, Y, and Z
>That shows just how brainwashed you are
Dude, what is your problem?
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>>114008
The main reason gold and silver are up is because the dollar has been devalued.  Second is because people in China have been buying a lot of gold and silver up (in part as reaction to the former).  Speculative bubbles are always a sign of a growing crisis in the material economy.  Speculation only happens when people can't make reliable gains off of productive investment.  The economy is shit and your Zionist whore has done fuck all to improve it.  Like every collapsing empire in history, the political machinery is so corrupt that it's unwilling to address basic domestic economic problems and has to lash out in violence against the outside world for temporary political points.  If you're still falling for the spectacle of warmongering after the Iraq War you are an incredible dupe.
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far worse for me.  the new taxes are terrible.  the job market is hell.  computer parts are skyrocketing.  3% inflation rather than the 2% target.  I may not get to vote in 2026.  the epstein files have not been released.  tax evasion is up.  oversight is gone.
>>114019
>the political machinery is so corrupt that it's unwilling to address basic domestic economic problems
Such as what? Because it seems like all the stuff people are complaining about is a result of them having zero perspective how much worse things were in the past, or thinking that problems we have ALWAYS had are suddenly "new problems" that need to be addressed and show how "terrible" modrn society is: https://odysee.com/@johnstossel:7/bigger-homes,-better-cars,-longer-lives:d
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>>114012
I didn't say you were brainwashed though I was just saying you're going to start getting raped again when the republican'ts concede to the demoncraps in 2028 while complaining that the election was rigged again but doing nothing about it LOL (I literally did laugh out loud while typing this) and anyone that makes too much of a fuss about it will get thrown in federal prison again while Trump tells them they deserve it for disrupting LAW AND ORDER again.
>>114021
In the past people didn't live in a surveillance state so it was much easier to get away with breaking most laws. That was actual freedom from tyranny.
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>>114026
>it was much easier to get away with breaking most laws
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Silver has now passed $90
Since April of last year, nine months ago, the price of silver has skyrocketed to triple it's value. The last peak for silver was 15 years ago in 2011, and the prior time before that was back in 1980. Both times, it never went above $50.
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>>114112
It's worth a lot more bro
>>114112
$50 in 1980 is about $200 now though so sounds like silver isn't doing too well
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>>114118
>inflation is a thing
NTA but I almost forgot about it. But your comment made me look a more useful measurement- gold to silver ratio over time. The chart is kinda fucky, because the early years are really condensed while the recent years are stretched, but its good enough
Last peak like this was in 2020 according to it, then one in the 90s. So the recent situation is notable, but nothing that extraordinary.
Anyway, gold for the win, that one's pretty stable. Silver always seemed fucky to me, with AU you never lose.
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>>114134
shit, forgot link
https://www.chards.co.uk/gold-silver-ratio
>>114134
>Anyway, gold for the win, that one's pretty stable. Silver always seemed fucky to me, with AU you never lose.
Speaking of which, I was wondering about this earlier. Considering how it seems like silver is spiking, around "when" would be a safe bet to trade all of mine in exchange for gold, just to protect myself for when the price falls and maximize my benefit. I remember hearing last year some people speculating that silver could "easily" reach $150. And I honestly don't see myself "losing" money if I trade my silver in now or later because almost all of it is from before the nine month rise (Excluding the smaller amounts).
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>>114138
>Considering how it seems like silver is spiking, around "when" would be a safe bet to trade all of mine in exchange for gold, just to protect myself for when the price falls and maximize my benefit. 
I think thinking like that is dangerous as it gets into speculation territory, instead of boring (and good) investment long term. Personally, I always lost, or almost lost when thinking that way, and never lost when I just stuck to owning what I have.
Though if I really wanted to sell silver for some reason, I'd do it at some gold/silver peak and just move that money into gold, then forget about it for the next 5-10 years.
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>>114141
>Though if I really wanted to sell silver for some reason, I'd do it at some gold/silver peak and just move that money into gold, then forget about it for the next 5-10 years.
That's what I was trying to say. Take my silver and convert it into gold. So like take 25 of my silver ounces, use that to buy one gold eagle, and cover my base in case the price drops back down to something more stable. And then possibly use that gold eagle to buy up a greater amount of silver once the price is lower and stabilized.

Actually, thinking about it and typing this out, I feel like I'm getting "too" excited and need to remember the advice from The Richest Man In Babylon. In that, primairly, I should only invest that which I can "lose" (1/10) and don't be aggressive/anxious when making investments.
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Silver just passed $100 Freedom Bucks!
And gold about to pass $5k. We're riding this hype train to the fucking moon!
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>>114231
Less than a week later and silver passed $115 while gold passed $5200
Also from what I hear, everyone in my local area is selling, the pawn shops are being cautious on the chance the price drops, and the coin dealers are placing hard limits to only a few thousand dollar trade-in per customer.
Imagine losing 4.7K in one day. LOL at BITTOID baggies.
And looks like the hype train is over
Silver just dropped below $100 and gold is about to drop below $5k.
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>>114323
Dear God!
Silver looks like it may drop below $80 (If not $70) by the end of the day. Meanwhile gold dropping to $4800, could go down to $4600. So much for potential stikes on Iran causing the price spike. Is this in response to the appointment of the new Fed chair?
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wtf guys my local gold and silver merchant said it was sure to keep going up to at least $160 and sold me a bunch of silver it for a small markup at $125. it's gonna go back up soon right??? xD
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>>114328
Yes. The appointment was viewed that the fed will remain independent, and probably well managed, without the attacks that Trump has lobbed at it for the last year.
>>114332
You got hustled. And precious metals are always considered high risk/high variability.
Then again, even with the drops, gold remains above previous "this won't happen" thresholds.
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>>114339
>You got hustled
no you just got trolled, i actually never bought any at all
my dick -----> 8=D~ ~O: <----- u sucking my spermloads LOL
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>>114341
the red text thing made the shaft of my ASCII penis 5x shorter hahahaha x-D owned
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What the Hell is a "Pro Rata Warrant"?
I own some stock in Xerox, and I logged into my stock account today to find that I know own a share in XRXDW. Trying to find out what the Hell it is, I stumble across this press announcement from little over a week ago: https://archive.ph/LL60b
>Xerox Distributes Pro Rata Warrants to Enhance Shareholder Value and Accelerate Deleveraging
<NORWALK, Conn.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 12, 2026-- Xerox Holdings Corporation (NASDAQ: XRX) (“Xerox” or the “Company”) today announced the distribution of warrants to purchase shares of Xerox common stock (the “Warrants”), to its eligible securityholders on February 12, 2026 (the “Distribution Date”), in accordance with its previously announced pro rata warrant distribution.
<As previously announced, holders of record of Xerox common stock as of February 9, 2026 (the “Record Date”) received one (1) Warrant for every two (2) shares of Xerox common stock held, rounded down to the nearest whole Warrant. Holders of record of Xerox’s 3.75% Convertible Senior Notes due 2030 and Series A Convertible Perpetual Voting Preferred Stock as of the Record Date also received Warrants on a pass-through basis in accordance with the terms governing such securities.
<“This action is part of a deliberate sequence of steps we are taking to leverage fit-for-purpose financing structures and instruments designed to strengthen our balance sheet and improve our capital structure in support of our long-term objective of creating sustainable shareholder value,” said Louie Pastor, president and chief operating officer at Xerox. “The pro-rata warrant distribution reinforces our focus on enhancing liquidity and accelerating deleveraging as we continue to see improving operating trends and integration progress.”
So what the Hell is this is layman's terms? What do I do with this thing?
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>>114583
They want their stonks back.
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Apparently trashchan has a /finance/ board, if any of you guys want to keep in touch after /animu/ dies.
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>>114930
IIRC, back on anon.cafe there was some buzz about starting a financials -related board (on /k/ , maybe lol). Someone suggested Trash; some Anon followed up on it & The Trashmin agreed. Thus was born /finance/ .
Replies: >>114956
Finally got my fucking taxes done
And another year of many where TT flags my refund as being "at risk" of an audit. Getting back $1.2k

>>114930
>>114935
Was already planning on going there, and posting on Moe /pol/ and /biz. However there isn't much to talk about lately aside from precious metals selling at a steal.
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>>114956
>turbotax
just use freetaxusa
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>>114957
Will have to look into that next year. Just been using TT since I started filing as I can leech over the version my folks bought.
>the market is already back at all time high, even with the war going on
Trading has been so hard lately. Bears gets no wins.

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