/late/ - Late Nights

>and I thought everything I felt was just an illusion
This is correct. It is needed to force into achieving the hardcoded objectives.

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No, I never really had any of that.
I assumed at times that I had to have someone else to make things easier, but no one wants someone who just uses you as a trauma dumper.
So the best I can do is do what I do night and day and, even if it is hard at times, try to find peace with it.

>Romantic love?
No. I don't really believe in it. My childhood was surrounded by charades of romantic love which all boiled down to a simple observation:
>love is sex and sex is hate and hate is the pathetic desperation to be loved
>Real Love?
Yeah. Yeah... Some sunny day... Some sleepy dreary rainy day. Some other time we'll be together again.

>>3151 (OP) 
Sometimes we meet that someone who lights that spark in us but seldom do we end up with them. Trust me Anons, comparing everyone to that initial spark will make you miserable and alone. You Will never find someone else who will spark you as intensely, but you will find someone who will spark you just enough to remind you of the sensation, make sure yo
u give those who do a genuine try and put in the effort.

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>>3182
Good post

I did find "the one" and the issue is I was also her "one". But for a number of reasons, she wasn't the mother I wanted to give my children. So pure and dignified. If it wasn't for the kids I would've thrown myself at her feet with no hesitation, but I had to make it clear there was no future for 'us'.
I wanted to rip it like a band aid so I just vanished and cut all ties but knowing her Im pretty sure I caused irreparable damage to someone who was already vulnerable. Fuck. It fucking sucks. She didn't deserve it and I know being rejected from the one you think is meant for you probably messed her up. Fuuuuuuck.
Hope she'll move on and God forgives me, because I don't think Ill be able to live with this shit on my conscience. I can't let feelings distract or slow me, I have to think about what's best for my children and work to reach it.

Do not look for love.
Seek a harmonious household and when you finally build one love will spontaneously bloom. We were created to desire the other sex and want to procreate, as Anon said it is only a feeling intended to nudge us in the right direction. Raising a family is one of the best things anyone can do, it is not only the most sincere expression of love but also the realization of its true purpouse.

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>>3151 (OP) 
i've never felt love it's basically an alien concept to me. noir is a great anime though.

>>3183

that’s a reduction of love to biology and duty, half-truth dressed as wisdom.

love isn’t just a tool to build a household, it’s a force that shatters illusions and awakens the soul.

to say “don’t look for love” is to tell a seed not to reach for the sun.

and no, we weren’t just made to procreate.

life’s too short to settle for harmonious roles that keep the soul asleep.

seek love and ignore this empty anon.

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i never had a partner but there were moments where i knew i could be with someone if i tried to have a deeper connection with certain people, but im too familiar with being alone and miserable so in those moments i pretend to be clueless and let it pass by because im too chicken shit scared of the kind of change in my life it would introduce and i think i would be a terrible partner myself

If you want love, take this anon's advice: do not waste searching for it in western women. Doesn't work, they are soulless corrupted harpies. 

Find yourself a nice girl from a place where feminism is an unknown word.

>>3201
I remember in the 90's the trope was the hotties were the divas or pushy ones, and it was the trade off for landing a smoking hot one. Now you get that same experience with all of them, just without the hot part (what a deal). 

>>3151 (OP) 
I thought I did but it's a 'stay together for the kids' situation I'm afraid. If she snaps out of it I'm here for it but she's glued to the phone and has been checked out for years at this point. I'm going to start selling my stuff so I can pack a suitcase and go when the time comes.

>>3201
lol, lmao even

>>3151 (OP) 
I've had crushes, but they never went anywhere. There were girls who were into me, but I was too much of a homebody loner to act on it.
>>3181
I think romantic love might be the most superficial form of love there is. Raw erotic passion seems to be fleeting for most couples, so a lasting relationship is generally going to have be built on more than that.
>>3201
Feminism is spreading even outside the West, and women in those countries will just end up the same way if you decide to bring them home with you. There's also the possible genetic difference aspect to consider.

I just don't think that's any kind of solution.

>>3201
This is the worst advice you can get from someone who has zero experience with women. You can't take those third worlders out of their natural environment or they'll turn into a worse version of western women. They need their families around to function so your only option is moving to their shithole, Asians and Africans only care about your money, Arabs are batshit insane, maybe South America could work but they are whores too. And don't fucking mention eastern Europe they are the biggest whores in the entire world.

>>3205
That's right modernity makes women unfeasible. I think kikes do it deliberately so smart guys recognize what's happening and are forced to die off and then kikes get to rule absolute cattle at their leisure. Atrocious race.

>>3206
Lol. History shows us time and again this Khazarian Mafia you speak of, typically find their quietus at the end of a rope (or similar). Your games can only work for so long, friend, and then it'll all come tumbling down on your heads as usual!.  :)

>>3205
As you stated yourself, women are a function of their environment. They are supposed to be submissive and easily bend, it's a feature not a bug.
So the responsibility always lies on society (men) not to let them go haywire and ((( their ))) job is to ensure you are too busy, tired and demoralized to even care.

I definitely second the advice of not shipping thirld worlders out of their habitat because that will not end well.

So is the corollary that, instead of looking for the right woman, one should look for the right social environment where women behave ?

this took a weird turn

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>>3220
>instead of looking for the right woman, one should look for the right social environment where women behave ?
So, the Amish, then? I don't know personally, but I'm told Anons (rightly) can't just barge in and claim their trad waifus.

>>3223
Nobody can force them to accept you.
If they don't, you'll have to find another way.

>>3220
Go run your honeypot elsewhere. None of us here are 4chan users :)

At this point I'd settle for someone that isn't on drugs (prescribed or illegal) or addicted to pop culture (tiktok, etc).

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I don't believe love is real. It's at least not very abundant. From what I've seen, relationships look intensely unpleasant. The sexual contract is the exchange of reproductive means for security, nothing more. People see someone who activates their almonds and then feel compelled to perform mental gymnastics for why their sudden horniness is actually deep and poetic.

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>I don't believe love is real.

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>>3229
Please make a case for why I'm so utterly wrong instead of just mocking me with some cheap "le Sasuke edgelord" (surely a substitution for a soyjak) reaction image. Maybe your parents loved you and each other, too, but mine did not. Hope that makes you feel better about yourself, asshole.

>>3228
Depends how you define love. Love describes some abstract way of thinking that's hard to define clearly and probably changes based on culture and situation and stuff. Once upon a time the Greeks had many different words for different kinds of "love", they were probably far more useful than the degenerated modern word that people use any time anything makes them feel good in any way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_words_for_love

I thought my first love was my real love, but it wasn't. Haven't really had anything since that, but I'm hopeful

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>>3230
It fucking doesn't, dickhead.
I've seen the difference between me - and I wasn't the most loved child on the planet, but still - and people I met who weren't loved, were neglected or worse. Actually my own mom was in that case kek.
The effect love, especially from parents, has on someone is so ridiculously obvious it's impossible to claim it doesn't exist or is useless. The lack of it absolutely wrecked some of my friends before they had the ability to even make choices, that's how critically important it is. 
If you hear someone claim that oxygen is a hoax and that people don't need to breathe would you even try to reason that person ? The only reason I didn't use the cheapest wojak I could find was because I want to keep the board nice and cozy.

Here's what you need to know:
1) love is essential to our growth and stability
2) love is inherently risky because it exposes your vulnerabilities and can be exploited, especially since there is no guarantee of reciprocation, however the solution isn't to get rid of love but to learn not to naively trust everyone
3) as opposed to money love is not a 0 sum game, some of the most loving people I know had received very little love
4) love does not affect exclusively those on the receiving end of it, it has a huge impact on the well-being of the one that loves just like gratitude
5) the vast majority of people you see around you function thanks to heving received/given enough love, a world without love would be an open air asylum which we are slowly slipping towards
6) some people just grow up and live without getting any, just like some are born without parents or without a functionning pancreas, because fuck them
I wouldn't wish it to my worst enemy

>>3235
And when you think about it, quite ironically, the entire shtick of that character is that his childhood trauma was grounds for him to justify being edgy and scorning friendship. He took many risks and came around eventually at the end of the story, which illustrates how silly his initial position was.
Looking back, the Sasuke pic should speak louder than my text wall.

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>>3236
>love is real because abuse exists
They aren't opposites. People very often act abusive toward the object of their "love".
>The lack of it absolutely wrecked some of my friends
Cool anecdote. On the flipside, you see parents who believe they love their kids more than anything and wind up coddling and sheltering them so severely that they end up with pronounced social maladjustment in adulthood all the same. Either way, it sounds more like parental instinct or lack thereof. That doesn't have to be explained any deeper than some individuals attempt to set their offspring up so that they will hopefully continue the lineage while others don't care to plan that far ahead.
>If you hear someone claim that oxygen is a hoax and that people don't need to breathe would you even try to reason that person ?
This logic is not far off from certain groups who classify sex as a need. If love is so real and necessary, then I should be dead already. 30 minutes without oxygen will surely kill or permanently render someone a vegetable. Going 30+ years without so much as a hug sure hasn't felt life-threatening to me.
Marriages that are successful long-term certainly don't rely on "love" to survive. Familiarity breeds contempt. People who enter this union (that supposedly carries so much gravitas) together typically end up despising one another in short order. The ones which don't end in divorce hinge on shame and submission. Bargaining and conceding. It seems that chemicals fade to reveal that love really is just an idealization of sexual attraction.
>The only reason I didn't use the cheapest wojak I could find was because I want to keep the board nice and cozy
Well, you sure failed at achieving that. Your actual intent was just as I called it. Otherwise, you wouldn't have responded in the manner you did. Doesn't matter if it's a soyjak or some brooding cartoon character. The difference that choice made was completely negligible for the tone you aimed to convey.
If you truly want to "keep the board nice and cozy", try not responding with zero-effort shitposts that are clearly meant to accomplish nothing more than evoking negative emotions. It's been a struggle to take you seriously since that point.
>Looking back, the Sasuke pic should speak louder than my text wall
It does, but not in the way you appear to wish, given the silly retroactive reasoning.
>life is totally just like mainstream shounen anime full of trite platitudes included to be digestible for 5-year-olds
Patiently awaiting the big magical ninja war with gigantic, magical, multi-tailed animals and the power of friendship and the indomitable human spirit to break out any day now in the real world.