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Do you like Strek, anon? What series? What characters?

(nuTrek Need Not Apply)
I got sucked into star trek from time to time. I watched very little all things considered, just one movie and few episodes, but I always had blast with it. Especially 90s star trek seems to be a good blend of everything fun about sci-fi. 

As for characters, Jean-Luc Picard is an boring but easy choice
I've only seen 2 full episodes. However, there are times when I binge watch clips of Star Trek and Deep Space 9 on YouTube. My favorite character Data. It's fitting for a show that explores what it means to be human to have a character tying to be one.

One episode in particular stands out to me, Star Trek The Next Generation S2E9, that explores if machines can be considered alive and sentient. I always thought it'd be straight forward, no, they're not alive. But if they act upon intelligence, show self awareness and formulate their own thoughts they can act upon as well, wouldn't they be for all practical purposes what we'd consider alive?

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>>570 (OP) 
The original show and the animated series are the best to me, although I started off watching The Next Generation. The premises of a lot of the episodes felt almost like The Twilight Zone but with a recurring cast of characters, but I wouldn't say there's any character I'm all that fond of in those shows. I've seen the complete runs of both those series but need to watch all of The Next Generation at some point.
>>572
I like Data as a fish-out-of-water character much better than Spock.
>>570 (OP) 
I like everything up through VOY and then I get really picky. Of all of the nuTrek, Lower Decks is the only thing that seems to have a soul.

I think TOS will always be my favorite because I one summer I watched it all+movies with my dad. Kirk is also my favorite and it's funny to me how pop culture did him such a disservice. Nerds mad they weren't as handsome and kind as him.
used to love it in the late 80s (start of TNG) and 90s, and it was a golden age for star trek. Can stand the occasional TOS these days but have a hard time watching it anymore, which really kinda sucks. I still want to love it but somehow I can't, I can't humans ever see behaving in such noble ways without ulterior motives anymore. I guess I've grown jaded.
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>>585
I dislike the kind of politics it pushes, but the silly naivete of the original show's worldview I find more endearing than anything.
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>>587
>I dislike the kind of politics it pushes
That's something that drives me crazy when I watch Star Trek. The constant theme of "killing pricks and defending yourself is always wrong" is a rather self-degrading message for a show that often explores morality.
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Stark Trek is the worst of Boomer liberalism and unsurprisingly it seamlessly transitioned (heh) to Wokism.
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>>588
>>590
This.

>The constant theme of "killing pricks and defending yourself is always wrong" is a rather self-degrading message for a show that often explores morality.
I would say that at least in the movies, they skirted the edges of 'always'. After all, they did portray metric boatloads of killing in the shows, not-uncommonly on a planetary scale. But it's pretty clear that Roddenberry was a womanizing liberal.
>>588
I wouldn't be so sure about that. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGcAbI-4_io[Embed]

The crew in TNG is a bit of a rouge ship compared to the rest of the federation. It's hinted at implicitly and explicitly throughout the series that they're not all they claim to be.
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>>570 (OP) 
nah prefer star wars (not disney) the starTrek movies not that bad tho, dont have the patience to sit thru episodes
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>>736
>dont have the patience to sit thru episodes
Have you ever watched The Animated Series? It was a half-hour show and was practically a fourth season of the original series. I'd take it over the actual third season. A lot of people seem to overlook it.
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>>741
>TAS
I watched this mostly for the known space crossover episode where the enterprise crew gets abducted by the kzinti. Now it makes me want a Man-Kzin Wars anime.
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>>742
That one was one of my favorite episodes.
Most enraging thing was not carrying out the computer virus vs the Borg. That was an example of dumb morality getting in the way of the bigger picture. Imagine how many lives could be saved by stopping such an enemy?
>>570 (OP) 
>nutrek
Do you mean Enterprise onward or does Enterprise count because I like that beagle. Seriously though that vulcan woman was seven of vulcan as hell. The doc was the only interesting character in Enterprise. When it comes to ds9 you cannot even choose because there's too many good personality profiles there. I'm okay with original series on towards Enterprise but when they up-stepped that faggy song I had to stop watching before finishing. I also never finished Voyager but that's because that grandma captain... .that and the flyboy mercenary guy, and the seven of 9, they were all such annoying cunts somehow. A hologram becomes an MC? I mean really. Realistically I don't even like the original because it's like they're always visiting mars and the cinematography being that old just urks me. The mars joke is a jab at the viewer being so low effort. Fucking draw another planet. I actually rank Enterprise over the original for it's being so old, the cinagmoatorgraphy. My fav episode from ds9 is Duet I guess. 

I met a guy in real life that thought that the one tng episode about metaphorical speaking that 'when the walls fell' episode, was great. I don't know why.... it was shit. Made them look dumb, humans that advanced not getting it. I got it before they even went down there. And how did the empath alien not help much at all there? Can't she sense a metaphor? She could talk to her mother in her mind so she should not be that fucking bad. The writers were just having fun. Speaking of just fucking having fun I noped ds9 due to the Cisco writer bullshit with the race bait drama. I actually never finished it. Come to think of it I don't think any of them are worth it aside form TNG...regardless I've got the original on up to the enterprise one downloaded as I too know better than to bother with an infinite shekel grab of new shit. Oh, that cartoon I ignored also.
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>>1383 (me)
>watching tng Disaster episode
>explosive decompression scene
>they look fuckin' fine even smiling 
At least farscape attempted to get it right.
>>1383
Enterprise is Quantum Leap II. The vulcan slut carries the show a little. Voyager is great. Voyager is a great watch for it's comedic delivery. Harry Kim nice but dim dies about five times in the multi-Kim universe while space Granny's just sat in the captain's chair picking her nose. I expect they were going for facepalming as a nod to Picard but I disagree with that assessment overall I think she is the best nose picking "might as well blow up the ship" captain. 10/10 will simp for 7 of 9 while Chad's stretching their robo-chute. The doc is a quality actor and the hologram thing isn't too heavily exploited for this week's get out of jail. Dumb anon is watching TOS in Ultra HD where you can see the eyeliner on Scottie and Bones. Watch it with a bit of generosity and consideration for how old it is.

Picard and Janaal at Tanagra is a masterpiece. "Made them look dumb" isn't the point. They took an experimental script that in all likelihood wouldn't work and in my opinion it did work. You can tell the actors who've been in theater group too long are smug about making an episode like that, which is a shame, but having even the empath alien from planet hedonism "not get/understand anything" is canon to the entire run of the show, she's a useless bimbo and bad counsellor. At least the actors seemed to have fun in it. DS9 is great too. Cisko just loves killin' and later when none of it happened because he's just a painter who dreamt it up mid-brain seizure you just laugh at it like the space butthole worms that the Beyjorans are always allahu ackbar'd about. They're all worth it. Even enterprise and Janeway are worth it. Except the cartoons and movies I don't watch them.
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>>1385
>Enterprise is Quantum Leap II
I knew that guy looked familiar.
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>>628
Original is better. Why must everything be about video games? May as well post a second video for no real reason I guess...
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>>1393 (me)
Wait.... I forgot what time it is!
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>>1393
> Duet .mp4
That was one of my favorite episodes. The foundation backstory episode The Inner Light was my all-time single favorite episode of ST-TNG, hands-down. Thanks, Anon!
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>>1394
Lel.
>>1395
Yes, that was a good episode, or more than one rather. To be crystal clear though, ds9's Duet has nothing to do with it, that being an episode, again, that I like myself personally. The names being the same as the mp4 is a coincidence for the record in short.
>Star Trek TOS
>I, Mudd
<"beads and rattles"
Did he call Bones a witch doctor just then? Vulcan humor is superior if so.
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>>1425
>I, Mudd
Harry Mudd comes back for a third time in the cartoon, if that's something that would be up your alley.
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>>1426
I might watch it. This I, Mudd episode was hilarious.
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TNG inspires me.  It's like the Jurassic Park theme, or The White Tree theme from LotR, or Corridors of Time from Chrono Trigger.  Stories where the smartest people you've never met get together to do something capital-G Great.  There's conflict and drama and things aren't perfect, because there are always these things, but at least there's ambition.

TOS was pretty okay.  I never got that much into it— I saw the "pon farr" episode and thought it was pretty dumb how Spock failed to mention that a little mortal combat would be involved.  Whoops!  Silly mistake; could happen to anybody.  I still need to check out the animated series, because everyone says it was awesome.

DS9 was cool because of all the intrigue and black-and-gray morality that comes with mass-scale conflict.  I don't have much nostalgia for it, but I get why people do.  Come to think of it, there was a dude on youtube back in 2010 who uploaded an episode each day, and a bunch of people would be in the comments afterward to discuss it.  Turned into a bit of a book club.  There was the one guy who always said O'Brien was a "pimp."  A real chad; a pussy-magnet, that O'Brien.  I remember making fun of how he, the chief engineer, would struggle to spit out his treknobabble.  I'm nostalgic for that.

VOY was more like a road-trip with your rowdy aunt, and there are a lot of themes I found detestable, like "holograms are people and they should have rights and wah wah wah."  Like, cool, let me just spin up my Amazon servers and fabricate a trillion "people" ahead of the next election, lmao.  Stupid as hell, risible throughout.  At least there was Seven of Deez Nutz in the later seasons.
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>there are a lot of themes I found detestable, like "holograms are people and they should have rights and wah wah wah."  Like, cool, let me just spin up my Amazon servers and fabricate a trillion "people" ahead of the next election, lmao
Now this is some quality bait
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>>1467
>TOS was pretty okay.  I never got that much into it— I saw the "pon farr" episode and thought it was pretty dumb how Spock failed to mention that a little mortal combat would be involved.  Whoops!  Silly mistake; could happen to anybody.  I still need to check out the animated series, because everyone says it was awesome.
The original show to me was the peal of Star Trek to me. It's appealingly cheesy and feels like it still has one foot in the more fantastic pre-WWII forms of science fiction.
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>>1473
*peak of Star Trek
>>1472
There are consequences for playing God, anon.
>>1473
I definitely got a little Old Time Radio feel from TOS.  Maybe a little more savvy than those "marionette" shows that were made around the same time (Fireball XL5 and Thunderbirds, IIRC.)  But not too much so.
I miss shows like TOS, simple to watch, comfy and entertaining. They still exist but they are few and far in between. Everything's so serious nowadays. Life is cold and horrifying enough, I don't need that in my shows.
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>>1530
This. I wonder if there are any other campy shows that fit this bill?
>>1383
DS9 is the only Trek show I accept. It's grittier, it has a focus point with the station, nice space battles, multifaceted characters, rogue ones, religious themes and some very intriguing alien species. You pretty much learn to love and hate the Dominion. Cardassians are fantastic.
Older Trek movies were OK before they turned into Space Rambo. JJA's stuff is a waste of reel.
>>1385
>the empath alien from planet hedonism "not get/understand anything" is canon to the entire run of the show, she's a useless bimbo and bad counsellor
She's ugly.
>>1426
>Harry Mudd comes back for a third time in the cartoon, if that's something that would be up your alley.
It depends on the width of his alley.
>>1467
At the very least TNG introduced the Borg and Earl Grey. That has to count for something.
>>1472
Maybe but it's a true point. That, or having the dead vote.
Technically it's the same.
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