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The alien thread has gotten me nostalgic for some good old fashioned conspiracy theories. Nowadays it's all just commodotized creepypastas and political shitflinging, which is fucking laaaaame.

What are some of your favorite conspiracy theories of the more obscure or classic varieties? Thought provoking, entertaining, or just weird.

The more schizo, convoluted, detailed, and overcomplicated the better.
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So in 2022 the very responsible people in of Birmingham's public fund decided to build an epic giant steampunk bull for the opening of the 2022 Commonwealth games (yeah that's a thing) instead of making anything good for the city.
 
And every fucking schizo christians online posted everywhere how this opening where the bull parades and you see people dancing around it was Baal worship and was clearly made by the government or royal family to show how fr3ak1ng epik satanic they are! 

But really it's just a fucking steampunk bull and this animal has been a symbol of Birmingham since years but religious crazies think that shit was made to DDoS your soul,mind and body.Which is really funny kinda like religious crazies who really think that we've found giant human remains and the government wants to hide the truth that nephelin exist to control us somehow.
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>>1818 (OP) 
>The alien thread has gotten me nostalgic for some good old fashioned conspiracy theories. Nowadays it's all just commodotized creepypastas and political shitflinging, which is fucking laaaaame.
The sanitization and centralization of the Internet really did a number on conspiracy theory stuff. Even on YouTube you used to be able to find a lot of zany stuff, but it got wiped out in the name of eliminating wrongthink. Do these people really think so little of the public that they believe they need censorship from self-important  "experts" to prevent them from becoming flat Earthers? And here I thought I was misanthropic.

Anyway, I've been meaning to learn more about the Richard Sharpe Shaver hollow earth kerfuffle.
>>1820
>religious crazies who really think that we've found giant human remains and the government wants to hide the truth that nephelin exist to control us
I detest organized religion, but I'm not ruling that possibility out. There are all kinds of old, obscure local histories in the U.S. mentioning giant human remains being discovered, for example. I don't really know why it would be covered up unless there's something the establishment doesn't want us to know about human history though.

I do find the fundamentalist stuff pretty frustrating in how it poisons the well for ideas that are considered fringe. More obviously, it also often closes people's minds off to possibilities they believe contradict their faith. The Project Blue Beam fearmongering from people who get really scared about the possibility of aliens existing for religious reasons I don't quite understand. I don't even see how that would even necessarily contradict the Bible. Even when I was Christian I had no problem with the possibility of alien life existing. Apologists are often good at hand-waving away contradictions anyway, but I think the biggest theological challenge would just be updating Christian soteriology. Did Jesus die for intelligent non-human life forms too, or did they get Jesuses of their own?

The older I get, the less certain I am of things I thought had figured out and am becoming more open to ideas I thought were just schizo babble.
Recently I thought 2006 Volleyball Incident was interesting.

It goes like this; Supposedly in 2006, a school shooting took place during a volleyball game in either Nebraska, South/North Dakota, Utah, Oregon, or Montana. Despite some people claiming to remember it, there was no news coverage nor records of the incident happening.
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I think I remember this. I was searching around for some form of proof of this happening and apparently this a snippet from a "home video" lol
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also this was the rest of the media i had. all from the same person recording
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Hollow Earth has always been one of my favorites. I think there probably are supersubterranean mega cave systems with undiscovered life in them. Probably nothing crazy, but the idea of a race of evil lizard people deep underground is really fun, especially if they're hoaxing themselves being from outer space.
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>>1845
>I think there probably are supersubterranean mega cave systems with undiscovered life in them. 
That reminds me. There's a sequel to this one book  that was about a lost world type island filled with 40k tier death world descendants of mantis shrimp. Any way in the sequel they find a enclosed cave system full of similar deadly animals all derived from cephapopods and one of them is basically a mindflayer that can control and puppeteer people or other animals.
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>>1849
Sounds cool as shit. Do you remember the name of the book at all?
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>>1850
Yeah Fragment is the first book and the second is Pandemonium.
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>>1851
this sounds awesome i will read this
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More occult than conspiracy but the US government does come into it. Something I heard recently that I found convincing is that corn is demonic. Corn originated in South America back when it was ruled by the Aztec gods, which are obviously demons. Demanding human sacrifices and preventing them form achieving the technological prowess that they aught to (wheels for toys but not for carts, etc.). All the legends on corns origins concur that it was a gift from these gods (demons), one example has corn being scabs and sores that a women (demon) rubs off her body in secret and feeds to her family; once they discover the origin they refuse to eat and starve to death. Now corn is very bad food, the worst factory farmed grain by far (and grains in general tend to be low in nutritional value). It's barely digestible to humans; makes you fat and starves you at the same time without even providing any rare or particularly important vitamins. It's also one of the cornerstones of the Standard American Diet. Corn syrup is actually inescapable in the US and corn is even used for fuel; all because of massive subsidies payed right out of the Uncle Sam's pocket. And all the corn farming is the worst of factory farming, massive mono-cultures of inbred gmo plants drenched in pesticides and unnatural fertilizers that slowly are turning Middle America into a dessert (I live there in a dying town, abandoned fields just don't regrow with anything outside of stubby shrubs and grasses even after years left wild, and runoff makes all wild herbs completely inedible.) And corn based fuels are consider sustainable and renewable! HA! But why are the feds dumping so much money into corn? The US used to use cane sugar like the rest of the world, but most of that sugar was imported from Cuba. Cuba was sanctioned and suddenly there's no more sugar. The us tried growing both corn and sugar beets to make of for this, subsidizing both. But a blight came and killed all the beets leaving only the demonic corn. And with the green revulsion now the Midwest is 90% corn by area and most of that isn't even given to Americans, it's exported. The feds made a dark deal with the corn demons, and now the US is completely dependent on it; a small deal with the devil among many, many that the US regime made to stay in power at the expense of it's people.
>>1863
I never heard that one before. Technically corn domestication began with the time of the Olmecs, which weren't really into human sacrifice. Human sacrifice in mesoamerican society seemed to have been a result of a slow degradation over time that reached a crescendo by the time of the late Aztec era.
It DID remind me of a story that I heard that the reason you popped corn was to force a demon or spirit out of the corn kernel.
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>>1863
Cornfields make me feel at home, but I have to admit that the corn industry should be done away with.
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>>1880
Corn cultivation would be just fine without the likes of ((( Monsanto ))) and their army of ((( lawyers ))).
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>>1863
You know the corn story also jogged my memory about this tale I once heard about a black eyed shaman, which I think had something to do with the kokopelli, but I only heard it once and that was a long time ago and I can't really retell it properly. Anyone else heard anything similar?
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>>1863
>I found convincing is that corn is demonic
As someone who worked in one of them fields this sounds interesting
>Corn originated in South America
It originated in Aridarmerica which is around the Southwest US and Northern Mexico, far away from the South of the continent
>back when it was ruled by the Aztec gods
Even if you wanted to say it didn't actually originate in the place but the era where the Aztec ruled, this is still wrong, Aztec Kingdom was strictly in Central America (hence Mesoamerican cultures) and they used corn just like everyone else did, the real problem is when they used it in rituals to cook and eat it refined after lacing it with blood, kinda like jews do with their bread.
>Demanding human sacrifices and preventing them form achieving the technological prowess that they aught to (wheels for toys but not for carts, etc.)
The demand is indeed fishy, the technological prowess is highly debatable as Aztecs were advanced in many fields and even surpassing European prowess in others (agriculture, building foundational construction, building acoustics, astrology, medicine) while grossly behind in others to the point of being just barely ahead africans (textiles, metal, weaponry, maritime navegation).
The wheel argument is a meme because aztec peoples were living in mountainous areas with harsh volcanic soil, the wheel was so impractical that even the spaniards went down using donkeys, mules and horses like the ones before in that region until civil work had razed and made roads centuries after conquering.
The mayans had the same ordeal but in highly-dense jungle environments, not even the brits used the wheel when they had the same lands or similar ones like the amazon jungle.
>All the legends on corns origins concur that it was a gift from these gods (demons)
Not really but it is an archetype
>Now corn is very bad food
Completely and utterly wrong
>the worst factory farmed grain by far
Key here is factory-farmed, when enriched or used in concentration it is indeed bad like most things, do not confuse HF corn syrup with a sweet corn cocktail.
>It's barely digestible to humans
You need to treat it with limestone first, it's a known fact for millennia and even then many european cultures still don't do it and also only eat the sweet corn variant.
>makes you fat and starves you at the same time without even providing any rare or particularly important vitamins
So wrong it's not even funny.
>It's also one of the cornerstones of the Standard American Diet. Corn syrup is actually inescapable in the US
Eat hominy pork stew, corn can be had in many forms and sweet corn is not the only form. Americans should know this for centuries but paradoxically they still don't, even beans have been forgotten in the Standard Diet.

>>1884
In the Southwest US/Northwest Mexico the dancing messenger injun archetype is quite common, some plains indian ones along with a couple of mesoamerican cultures. It usually means the forthcoming of good news/days, at least in the border desert areas in which the dancing injun appears (Arizonan Kokopelli, Sonoran Deer Man) but they tend to pick other meanings over the years (after conquest and/or missionaries) or heavily focus on others, the Deer Man itself became a tribute to hunting and particularly the prey rather than the forthcoming of something, Kokopelli usually appeared when the crops were halfway into maturing for harvesting, in terms of corn this is around Easter which is often when most of these celebrations occur so missionaries took it from there.
When Euros brought wheat and other winter crops many of these extensive celebrations lost some of their importance because injundom could eat fairly well all year round. Also Rice.
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>>1890
Aztec anon is that you?
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>>1891
This is like the third or fourth time my good anon friend but it isn't me, who knows what happened to that fellow but certainly he was much, much more advanced in that field than me.
The other day i saw some posts in spanish and it fitted his description but the anon didn't know the obvious weaponry knowledge Aztec anon had so false alarm. Many anons i wish i knew their posting grounds, perhaps some of them weren't kidding when they said they would quit if previous sites went down.
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