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Wanna watch some /retro/ TV? Check out https://www.my00stv.com/

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Alright, this is meant to be a successor to /y2k/ on the old 8chan, however I have expanded it to include both the 1990's and the 2000's and NSFW content is allowed, provided it's actually related to the purpose of this board and doesn't violate any of the site's core rules.
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>>5053
>i think it's worth the hassle to see a small pond of shitposting as long as a couple anons swim through it and post their efforts
I've felt ambivalently about this in recent years. Alt boards like this one and boards dedicated to productive stuff like /agdg/ can have a fair amount of signal in all the noise, but more general boards like /v/ have used up whatever good juice they had from 2015-2020.

/tg/ has managed to be the exception to all this, being a board of not-as-productive-as-they-used-to-be anons that just keep to themselves and talk about things they like. Even being attached to the tumorous mass of /a/ hasn't affected them beyond a couple of yaoifags shitting things up.

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Let's have a new thread without a tonne of broken images.  Have there been any new forms of /retro/ media (could be movies, games, anime, websites, etc.) that wanted to look old and actually succeeded?

There's an artist called BlueTheBone who makes "retro"-styled animations, cheesecake, and porn.  Like any modern hack, he overdoses on visual clutter and uses filters that don't actually resemble the time period he's trying to emulate - but despite that, I think his style is consistently decent.  If he relied less on computers and filters, then I think he'd be a much better artist, but that goes without saying for most contemporary artists.

The really weird things happen when he tries to make modern character designs and media look old, like pic 2.  It isn't exactly wrong, but there is something perplexing about viewing characters and series that were developed specifically with modern aesthetics in mind.
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>>5086
thats an os problem, im just talking about hardware, you can still run a 16bit os like dos on a modern cpu and run 16bit programs no problem, when you start using a modern os then yeah its up to how compatible the os is with your program, thats like running a linux program on windows, you either use emulation or boot linux, its not a hardware issue
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>>5088
>thats an os problem
Okay, that I get

Here's another question that I have, this is in regards to something like MMX. Now I get the fact that we have "newer processes" that are suppose to be "faster" and more efficient in regards to processing some data, but are these actually faster?

What I mean is something similar that I see with the modern ray-tracing meme. One of the biggest reasons people are pushing for the tech is that it would supposedly lessen the load on developers to make things like proper reflections and lighting in games (Among other things). However the trade-off for using such tech is that it requires far more power than games that came before, prior games which did have elements like proper lighting and reflections (Even if superficially). Is that what is going on here? Are the replacements for processes like MMX actually proven to be faster in application and usage, or are they only theoretically faster and made to seem like the "Better" option because of Intel's shenanigans.
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>>5089
mostly yes, its not really comparable to ray tracing, thats always going to be the slowest way to render
with cpus if you had to do something tedious like add 1 to 1000 32bit pixels then with mmx, which has 128bit registers, you can do 4 pixels at a time so its 4x faster than using 64bit registers, but with avx you have 256bit registers so you can 8 at a time, with avx512 you have 512bit registers so you can do 16x pixels at once, so obviously youd think more is better, since obviously if you can do more data then its faster but it gets complicated because a cpu is still a physical machine so passing electricity on gigantic 512bit registers is going to create way more heat than registers that are 1/4 its size, so while you can do more data you actually still slow the cpu down since it will thermal throttle and it does that preemptively because its guaranteed to go volcano mode when using those instructions, the instance you use a single 256bit or 512bit register the cpu immediately downclocks, i think the penalty is 20% 50% respectively but thats a small price to pay when you can process 8x-16x the amount of data, however if the programmer is stupid and only does a single avx instruction and isnt really using these for bulk data processing then you trigger the downclock penalty and effectively slowed the cpu down for nothing, and your normal instructions are running at 1/4 the speed now for a while, so nor
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taco bell has a y2k ad out
it's bad
like really fucking bad
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>>5109
One of the nicer things about never intentionally watching ((( TV ))) is not having to see such goyslop.

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Retro /tech/.
 
PDAs, pagers, old mobile phones, mp3 players.  I miss them.  They were so less intrusive to privacy.
 
It sounds really weird, but I'd love it if I could somehow still have a pager as opposed to a cell phone.
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>>801
>I actually bought myself a whole collection of grooveboxes this year (MP7, MC505, MC307, MPC500, DR202, KO1, EM1, SP606, SP808, RM1X, SB246, QY100), and it's really taught me how expensive and how much of a hassle hardware really is in comparison to DAWs and trackers. And to add, I've since started using FLStudio 3.55 which has re-shifted my opinion on software trackers as it's a much more user friendly and intuitive software to use and to learn as a beginner in comparison to the more modern versions.
Replying to this post again, I'm on the verge of just coughing up the money for a Cirklon with the way my computer setup is. FL Studio has been my preferred way of working in the box, but I've never liked the feeling of using it in Linux. I've tried it through Wine and in a virtual machines, and it just feels off to me. I've also got it installed on my Windows partition, but the problem is that I don't like having to close everything and boot into Windows for that. And maybe it's just me, but I've never been good at finishing projects. I also never bothered learning any of the automation techniques.

I played around with Furnace a bit and really liked the workflow and bare-bones tracker interface, but there's no MIDI export function. It's also completely oriented around chip music, which is fine, but I'd like to also be able to input chords and everything. I'm a hardware syn
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I'm going to the vintage computer festival tomorrow. There will be SGI machines there, I'm really excited.
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>>5019
How does a festival like that work? Is it a bit like the vintage car shows and model trains
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>>5020
I guess they just book a big space and then people come in and set up tables and booths with displays.

Unfortunately, it's full of weirdos and unshowered people. They're not 100% of the attendees, but a significant portion. I guess in hindsight it's stupid to expect anything else, but somehow in my mind I expected Computer Chronicles sort of people and not smelly discord people.

Nevertheless, it was still fun. I got some magazines and a couple bits of hardware as well.
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>>801
Do you have a personal favorite tracker? I should have asked that before. I'm also curious to hear more about your thoughts on the early FL Studio versions and how they compare to the later ones. I first started using the program in the late 2000s, and FL Studio 11 is probably the version I feel most comfortable with.
>>4972
After mulling it over for a few months after I made this post, I ended up chickening out and buying a Hapax instead. After using it a little bit, I feel like it was absolutely the right decision. I'm still in the beginning stages of digging into it, but it's been really easy to learn so far. What scared me off about the Cirklon was not only the added cost, but the fact that it seemed like it would be a hassle for chord-based music and take a lot of willpower to learn. Maybe the Cirklon's aux events have more depth than what the Hapax can do, but the Hapax still makes it really easy to create evolving patterns. One of the first things I did when I got it was to create a simple line on one channel and copy it over to another channel with a slightly lower elasticity setting to create a phasing effect like in Steve Reich's music.

On the negative side, I think it's going to take some fiddling to get old MIDI files I created imported due to the pattern length limitations. I haven't been able to get USB MIDI to work and have had 
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>These guys think they're bad because they walk slow...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRiH3jNE7OY
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i heard the around the world WUBWUBWUBWUB remix at the gym again today and now i'm mad
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>>5012
I argue all remixes are terrible. I work with a guy that's too cheap to pay for a streaming service or buy albums but won't pirate, so he'll download remixes and covers as a loophole. I've heard enough butchered music to cement my opinion.
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>>4281
>>5012
>>5013
Never underestimate the power of a good remix. Ignore all the modern trash and listen to these.
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Do old internet remixes count?
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>>4934
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Those are always nostalgic. What comics from past do you like?
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Wormy, from The Dragon (what TSR's Dragon Magazine was originally named). But I was too young to read it from the beginning, I only found some back issues at local library. And the strip was already gone by the time I started buying the magazine in the late 80's. The author suddenly went MIA, and they replaced it with some very lame and boring comic strip featuring a chick with big tits (but that alone isn't enough to make a good comic). So I guess the new one was probably drawn by Larry Elmore, but I can't remember the name because it was so incredibly bland and boring.
Anyway now it's easy to find the entire Wormy saga in PDF. I guess they made it easy for us when they released (for sale) all the Dragon 1-250 issues on CDROM a long while ago...
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>>5103 (OP) 
I got hand-me-down comics from my older brother back in the '90s. I remember a few contemporary Superman issues. Archie too. There some black-and-white comics in what I believe would be considered digest form (I think there was an Archie one and ones with origin stories of Popeye and Superman) as well as some older comics I don't really recall. Those ones were old enough that they had those classic old-school ads. Pic related is one I always thought looked cool, but after seeing what the actual product looked like as an adult, I don't think I would have liked it as a kid. Speaking of ads, I had an Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade comic as a kid that had this Metal Gear advertisement that made me want to play the game. I was disappointed when I got around to trying it and it wasn't an action game like I was expecting. I think I mentioned that story in a different /retro/ thread. That ad is one of the main reasons I can remember that comic. Later on I remember even having one of those Kool-Aid Man comics. I'm not quite sure when that was. I'm positive there are more comics that I'm forgetting.

My mom had a pen pal who lived in England, and she was kind enough to send my family a bunch of British children's comics when I was like 10 years old. Like The Beano and that sort of thing. I really liked them. They felt like a breath of fresh air compared to the usual superhero comics. I rec
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Here are some gag comics I have just remembered.

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Looks like none of the images in the catalog work. Let's get a fresh thread in here, focused on computers!

I don't have pictures at the moment to share, but I got lucky today and picked up a nice big beige computer case. I'm assembling a new personal computer from parts that I got deals on, found in the junk heap, or that I was given by friends.

So, I guess it's not really a /retro/ computer, but it will be in a /retro/ case, and I plan to get an adapter which will let me use a 3.5" floppy disk drive in there. The adapter plugs into the floppy pins, and presents a USB interface to the motherboard. That adapter is under $10 USD.

In fact, I've seen an adapter card that will do the same but for 5.25" floppy disk drives. So, when I have more money, I should be able to have not only a 3.5" FDD, but a 5.25" FDD in my system, running alongside new solid state drives, Blu-Ray disc drives, and of course a few regular hard drives. It should be pretty fun.

Again, no pictures yet but I will share with you guys when I can. For now I'll just post one from my collection.

What have you guys been up to?
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>>4344
I used to be a clean desktop person, with just one or two icons, and at some point, for some reason, I stopped. It was around the same time I stopped using most applications in fullscreen mode. Now, I normally have a web browser open in windowed mode so I can see my beautiful wallpaper(s) behind it, and I like having a few icons on the desktop. On my main Windows 7 computer, I purposefully left out shortcuts that have icons I just think look nice. It's almost like decoration. In a way I treat the computer desktop in the same way I treat my real desktop, as a workspace that I use, and clean up afterwards, but some things stay on top. 

I have a folder on my desktop that's like a miscellanous drawer into which I occasionally sweep random junk that's accumulated on the desktop. And when I'm working on something on my computer I just dump files on the desktop instead of making a temp folder. And then at the end I delete what I no longer need and file things away. Now that I'm used to the way I do things I don't want to change. My desktop will remain somewhat messy. It's home.
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>>4368
>I have a folder on my desktop that's like a miscellanous drawer into which I occasionally sweep random junk that's accumulated on the desktop
I do that too, although my desktop is also filled with tons of other crap. It's a mess.
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I was going through my Matt Furniss music collection and noticed that I can't seem to find this Atari ST track on YouTube anymore. Search engines are so crap that I can't find any more information on it, but for all I know it might be tagged wrong. Maybe it's irrelevant, but I thought I would upload it here in case anyone is interested.
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>>5100
Thank you for your service, Anon. Yandex often works better for me than jewgle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iASMolEGr9k

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Post cool /retro/ ads and TV commercials
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>>5043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g2Ywx1mLIE
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>>5038
>>5043
CATCH THE WAVE
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>>5070
Funny. I don't think they ever solved that did they?
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>>5097
Hearty lulz

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Anyone else here /retro/maxxing? I've realized there is no point in denying myself happiness and gigacoziness and I may as well go all in on my retro obsessions even if it's a bit weird. 

I could list a bunch of things I'm doing but I'll start with just a couple here

>film photography
I have never bought a digital camera and I have stopped being a NEET lately. I have a small comfy job so I have some money and I buy rolls of film on occasion and I carry a late '90s point and shoot camera with me almost everywhere I go. It's fun and super comfy. I also started developing black and white film myself, at home.

>computer
I have set up my windows machine to look like windows 98 (not completely accurate but I've changed over the icons and use a classic theme, etc. 

And on my linux machine I have set it up to look like some versions of UNIX from the late 80s to early 90s.

And for my browser I use Pale Moon and I have it set to look like Netscape.

>music
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>>5063
I hope this leads to other old home computers getting a renewed version. Like the Spectrum but especially like some of the rarer ones like the SAMCoupe or the Timex Sinclair.

>>5064
>I potentially want to see some older developers and composers getting some new work because of this
That would be great.
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>>5069
The ends are just basic composite connections.
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>>5092
just get an RCA-to-whatever adapter with an end that'll fit your speakers. Probably 3.5mm, but maybe yours are weird.
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>>5063
I bought the Commodore 64x case for mitx. They're still offering it. I tried to shill (raise awareness) of it over the years. Sean who's one of the people involved with this even though Perifractic is the point man is a great guy.
>>5072
Maybe you should tell that to Leo on his forum for 'Commodore' OS.
>>5087
Spectrum was already brought back?
>>5093
Yeah, that's what I figured. I'm going to have to see what I can find.

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So, what are some of your favorite memories of the old internet?


Can be websites, memes, events or any other aspect of the days of Web 1.0 and 1.5


For a quick reference, here's what I would define as Web 1.0 and Web 1.5


>Web 1.0: Usenet, Geocities and Angelfire, AOL (1991-2001)
>Web 1.5: Early YouTube, ED, 4chan in its "wild west" days, MySpace, YTMND, Newgrounds and the peak years of dA and Fanfiction.net (2001-2008)


You also had cross-generation stuff like GameFAQs and IMDB which are still around today, although sadly IMDB's infamous message boards are gone
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>>5024
In hindsight, growing up with:
- infinite free emulated video games
- infinite free Flash games and animations
- wide cultural expectations of filesharing for music and movies
- the intersection of good video games made by white dudes
- geeks running the internet and having fun
was pretty much perfect.

I don't want to get lost in reminiscing, so I'll just say that the abundance of digital media and internet preservation have made it easier than ever to see how boring and lame things are. The only thing The Powers That Be have going for them is cultural inertia, and they've been digging up the corpses of 80s toy lines at an alarming rate. It can't last forever, and if we're willing to make new stuff ourselves then it'll stand out.
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>>5029
>I don't want to get lost in reminiscing
>and if we're willing to make new stuff ourselves then it'll stand out.
Both great perspectives, Anon.
Forward!
>>5029
amen anon
>if you build it they will come
we have to create the world that we want to see, and when people see how much better it is, that movement will only grow.
https://contemporary-home-computing.org/RUE/
>I’ve been making web pages since 1995, since 2000 I’m collecting old web pages, since 2004 I’m writing about native web culture (digital folklore) and the significance of personal home pages for the web’s growth, personal growth and development of HCI.
>So I remember very well the moment when Tim O’Reilly promoted the term Web 2.0 and announced that the time of Rich User Experience has begun. This buzzword was based on Rich Internet Applications, coined by Macromedia,1 that literally meant their Flash product. O’Reilly’s RUE philosophy was also rather technical: The richness of user experiences would arise from of use of AJAX, Asynchronous Javascript and XML.
>The web was supposed to become more dynamic, fast and “awesome,” because many processes that users would have to consciously trigger before, started to run in the background. You didn’t have to submit or click or even scroll anymore, new pages, search results and pictures would appear by themselves, fast and seamless. “Rich” meant “automagic” and … as if you would be using desktop software.
>As Tim O’Reilly states in September 2005 in blogpost What is Web 2.0?:2 “We are entering an unprecedented period of user interface innovat
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Making a Neocities page looks fun. I really loved the internet when it was full of blogs, forums and personal sites. I sure miss it.

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There is a lot of history to 2channel, the Japanese megaBBS from 1999-2014. It now continues as 5ch and a broken copy version, neither of which capture the spirit of the old site.
Ayashii world(or strange world) preceded 2ch on the net, as a type of BBS with many instances. The original strange world lasted from about 1995-1996(maybe it was just 1996 I don't remember). They overall went out of style when 2channel came along.

That said, there is still a lifetime of threads, flash, and more from these that is worth reading and watching, as well as some instances that are still alive.


I recommend visiting the english renditions of these sites, they tend to be very easy on hardware because they are just textboards:

English 2channel, originally started by 2ch users in 2003: http://world2ch.net/

English Ayashii Warudo, started by enthusiasts of Japanese BBS: https://fukuoka.x10.bz/bbs.php
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There should be more english 2chs
Oh, I've been using world2ch for a few months now. I have a few threads
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Wha happen?
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