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Wanna watch some /retro/ TV? Check out https://www.my00stv.com/

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Alright, this is meant to be a successor to /y2k/ on the old 8chan, however I have expanded it to include both the 1990's and the 2000's and NSFW content is allowed, provided it's actually related to the purpose of this board and doesn't violate any of the site's core rules.
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>>4451
I didn't mean to completely abandon my banner for almost a month. Here's a version with no uri.
Would this font work?

>>4460
>>4461
Nice.

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Anyone else here /retro/maxxing? I've realized there is no point in denying myself happiness and gigacoziness and I may as well go all in on my retro obsessions even if it's a bit weird. 

I could list a bunch of things I'm doing but I'll start with just a couple here

>film photography
I have never bought a digital camera and I have stopped being a NEET lately. I have a small comfy job so I have some money and I buy rolls of film on occasion and I carry a late '90s point and shoot camera with me almost everywhere I go. It's fun and super comfy. I also started developing black and white film myself, at home.

>computer
I have set up my windows machine to look like windows 98 (not completely accurate but I've changed over the icons and use a classic theme, etc. 

And on my linux machine I have set it up to look like some versions of UNIX from the late 80s to early 90s.

And for my browser I use Pale Moon and I have it set to look like Netscape.

>music
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>>4551
If it's a small section it can probably be spliced out (losing those few seconds of footage of course). I've never attempted this though, tapes were only a few dollars and effectively expendable in the 90's when I had some.
>>4441
I'm a little late to the party, but just wanted to say Sony boomboxes got me through jr. high, HS, and college. Well worth the 20% markup compared to the lesser brands. 
And despite kinda getting into audio stuff, I never got serious enough to build a full home system with stand alone cd player.
>>4551
If it's only crumpled and not broke or tore it may actually need "fixing". Just let the creases sit under many layers of wound tape and they will relax and straighten out over time. I've had it happen to me and vhs tapes are surprisingly resistant to crease and crumple damage. Just make sure it's all wound flat, tight, and even.
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>>4562
*it may not
>>2000
2000's symbian phones gather all of these while still not being addictive and SLOP like a smartphone. java games are very cool too

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Let's have a new thread without a tonne of broken images.  Have there been any new forms of /retro/ media (could be movies, games, anime, websites, etc.) that wanted to look old and actually succeeded?

There's an artist called BlueTheBone who makes "retro"-styled animations, cheesecake, and porn.  Like any modern hack, he overdoses on visual clutter and uses filters that don't actually resemble the time period he's trying to emulate - but despite that, I think his style is consistently decent.  If he relied less on computers and filters, then I think he'd be a much better artist, but that goes without saying for most contemporary artists.

The really weird things happen when he tries to make modern character designs and media look old, like pic 2.  It isn't exactly wrong, but there is something perplexing about viewing characters and series that were developed specifically with modern aesthetics in mind.
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>>4569
Thanks anons!
>I actually thought it was official artwork from the '90s when it first caught my eye.
I referenced official Nintendo art a lot to make sure things looked correct, glad to have captured that spirit!
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>>4570
I like the texturing on the trees especially. It makes me want to reach out and touch them.
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>>4571
Fun fact about that, I was having issues with seams using the internal bump maps so I created an image to use instead. Initially this was just for the cherry but with different scale values it also looked good on the trees.
This thread made me wonder if I should buy an accelerator for my ol' A600 to faciliate running Lightwave better. Loved screwing around with that back in the day. To be honest though, things would probably not be well even with that. Should probably set it up in an emulator first. On the other hand, these (non-Pi) accelerators are only going to get rarer and maybe I should just bite the bullet. It's not like Motorola will anounce a new 68k CPU next year. I also have an A2000 with video toaster somewhere, and some parallel port audio/video digitizers. You connect analog audio or composite video, and then record samples or make "screengrabs" on the Amiga. A few years ago I tried hooking up the composite video source of a Rasperry Pi to the Toaster but I couldn't get it to sync. IIRC it was the Pis fault.

I'm mostly a 2D guy and usually draw pixel art on it, but I always loved the vibe of low-poly 3D stuff. Maybe I'll post some of my pixel art. This is a comfy board.
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>>4574
Sounds like a good idea anon, it would be nice to see some art made on period hardware as well as your pixel art too!

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My grandfather introduced me to "All in the Family" the other day, and I started binge watching it out of a sense of...how edgy it was.  Like this is something that would not come out today.
Some time ago, I was reading some old Usenet posts and thought, "Holy cow, how did this not get banned/deleted?"  Post/users like that would just immediately get scrubbed now.
I recently saw "Freddie Got Fingered" and was kind of amazed that that was in theaters.

Was the 90s more tolerant than today?  Was everything really this edgy?  Or is this some sort of weird survival bias?  The only thing today that I can think of that comes anywhere close is Southpark, but I'm not sure that counts because Southpark came out in the 90s.
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>>4518
>while sex was, today it seems to be the inversion of that.
Despite the political climate, people are now prudish to an extreme. Pretty much every happening these days is zoomers clutching pearls about sex.
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>>4538
I wonder if this means that gen alphas are going to flip the other way and become Brave New World tier hedonists and exhibitionist?
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>>4539
Bold to assume that degree of sex-positivity will be permitted in public debauchery.
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>>4545
Yeah, ahead of its time
Yes. We actually live in really prude times now and people don't seem to be aware of it. The 80s and 90s were sexually a lot more open. The pearl clutching started in the late 90s and accelerated in the 00s.

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I recently found out about Escargot (https://escargot.log1p.xyz/) which is a MSN Messenger revival project so let's have a thread about other projects to revive old software / games. There's also a really nice one for AIM too.
http://iwarg.ddns.net/aim/
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>>654
Ha, you nailed IRC's use nowadays perfectly.
>download and build povray
>sudo make install
>installs
>can't find it
>can use it via terminal but no GUI
>do more reading
>there is no GUI
>it is all text-based
well there goes the fun I was planning on having. time to get an old PowerPC Mac and that software that Jurgen Ziewe used.
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>>2473
I think you might be able to make stuff in Blender and then export it to POV-Ray. That POV-Ray artist in the "Modern /retro/ material that actually does it right" thread says he uses his own script, but there might be other options.  You might want to take a look at that thread again, even if you've read through it before. Maybe it'll help. I love the old Jurgen Ziewe art though.
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>>2473
Hi, there have been GUI programs for POVRay in the past but they're all very outdated IIRC. The SDL (scene description language) may seem intimidating at first but is actually pretty simple and part of the fun personally. It's at least worth giving it a try.
>>2474
That's right, Blender has the ability to render with POVRay 3 using the included addon, though sticking to the SDL helps keep renders period appropriate in terms of scope IMO. Tutorial anon's script is a simple wrapper that sets the necessary switches for rendering, for scene creation he uses the SDL as in his tutorials.
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I just found out about the Xfire revival project, man I used it all the time to track my games and to find CoD 2 servers, I'm so happy it's back even though I can't stand playing on PC anymore 
https://www.xf1re.com/

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>ITT: Vidya of the 90's and 2000's


Keep it limited to the scope of this board, so basically Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Generation consoles only for now. 


For those who don't know what consoles are part of which generation, here's a quick rundown of the time frame we're talking about...


>Fourth Generation: SNES, Sega Genesis/Sega CD
>Fifth Generation: PS1, N64, Sega Saturn
>Sixth Generation: Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, OG Xbox


Discussion of games from the Seventh Generation consoles (PS3/Wii/Xbox 360) is allowed as well, but I'd like the thread to mainly focus on the 4th-6th console genererations since the 7th Gen era carried over into the 2010's and a lot of the games from that era onward obviously have far more in common with modern gaming than stuff from the 16-bit consoles or the PS1 and PS2 eras.
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>>4553

I though the slim's where bulletproof..
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>>4556
Not at all. First generation of slims are good but the later ones have all kinds of problems just not with the GPU.
>>4550
be the change you want to see
https://consolemods.org/wiki/Xbox_360:GPU_Retrofit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIUIGlD5Qog

This guy gets it.
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>>4561
>take the Y2K vibe and make it cool again: Older Brother Core™
Interesting point. The notion of having more visual stuff to intrude on the natural landscapes is generally something people dislike, but from playing Halo 1 for the first time last year I can definitely see what he's going for. Making something photorealistic and naturally beautiful can be worthwhile but if you don't have an underlying artistic vision then it'll all fall flat. I've seen literally hundreds of games (out of the thousands that have doubtless been made) with generic, stock UE lighting and foliage and other accessory details.

Obviously a mainstream AAA corp like 343 Halo Studios is incapable of channelling the nerd energy of white guys working on Pentiums in the late 90s, but it'd be fun to see them try.

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A thread for artwork and content of anthropomorphic animals characters (or "furries") from the late 1990s and early 2000s.

Sources are encouraged.

Resources:
https://yerf.metafur.org/
http://us.vclart.net/vcl/
https://confurence.com/
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Discussion about this kind of evaporated, but Lackadaisy's pilot apparently did well enough that there's going to be an entire season. A couple shorts have been produced already and there's a 5-minute one here: https://youchu.be/watch?v=GqkUy8M-GfQ
Ivy is terminally cute, as usual.

Seems the people behind Lackadaisy have partnered with Glitch (the guys who made The Amazing Digital Circus) to open a merch store in case you wanted to buy plushies of the characters for perfectly legitimate reasons or just let your dogs chew on them. I had some misgivings about the pilot and how far it strayed from the original comic storyline, the style and charm of the characters is enough that I'm really looking forward to anything coming out of the studio.

My major gripe is Mordecai being voiced by that fat Korean faggot who became popular through meme videos, since his "dry serious voice" sounds like an affectation rather than genuine composure. And the aforementioned niggerlicious Cajuns.
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>Where did you learn to play - in a cave?
>In a trench.
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>>4448
Good voice work, good animation. I was half expecting him to get clocked.

>Dizzy Whipphid Defence
>>4447
Hopefully they've learned their lesson and will tighten things up this time.
>>1222
>This reminds me that re-working CATastrophe is still on my eternal backburner; I still have the source files that the Catfolk Pilot dropped in our laps back on 8chan.
Pardon the super late reply, but do you still have those? Ever since pirating anything /tg/-related became way harder I've become slightly obsessive about hoarding as much as I can get my hands on.

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So, what are some of your favorite memories of the old internet?


Can be websites, memes, events or any other aspect of the days of Web 1.0 and 1.5


For a quick reference, here's what I would define as Web 1.0 and Web 1.5


>Web 1.0: Usenet, Geocities and Angelfire, AOL (1991-2001)
>Web 1.5: Early YouTube, ED, 4chan in its "wild west" days, MySpace, YTMND, Newgrounds and the peak years of dA and Fanfiction.net (2001-2008)


You also had cross-generation stuff like GameFAQs and IMDB which are still around today, although sadly IMDB's infamous message boards are gone
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>>4454
>How valuable is Neocities in the present day?
Very valuable. It hosts a ton of cool retro sites and personal blogs for free without ads, it's arguably the only place that's keeping the spirit of the old worldwide web alive. Also the fact that it's open source and still online more than a decade after its introduction is nothing short of amazing.
>What about Angelfire?
Apparently it's still up, and some of its old sites that I used to visit are too. However I don't think it's currently free.
One of my issues with Neocities is that they don't allow uploading ZIP archives. I fully understand and respect that decision, but it's still annoying having to upload my archives elsewhere. So far I've been uploading my files to Catbox, which is fast and dependable but randomizes file names. I also mirror everything on the Internet Archive, which is slow and unstable. Neither website is ideal...

So I went through the Neocities docs and made an interesting discovery: the website allows EPUB documents. This is interesting because the EPUB format is a subset of the ZIP format, which means EPUB documents are valid ZIP archives. So if I could repackage my ZIP archives as valid EPUB documents then I can upload them directly to Neocities... The only downside is the file extension; visitors will have to manually rename all archives they download. Thankfully there's a fix for that:
https://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_a_download.asp
With some HTML magic I can create a download link that auto-renames the downloaded file to anything I want, as long as both the link and file are from the same origin. Problem solved!
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>>4540
>they don't allow uploading ZIP archives. I fully understand and respect that decision
>if I could repackage my ZIP archives as valid EPUB documents then I can upload them directly to Neocities
;^) Good find anon, with IA's growing troubles this is a great option to have. I wonder if they actually check mimetypes at all?
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>>4541
>I wonder if they actually check mimetypes at all?
I was curious about this as well so I checked the source, and the answer is yes:
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    # Possibly needed logic for .dotfiles
    #if extname == ''
    #  extname = uploaded_file[:filename]
    #end

    return false unless valid_file_mime_type_and_ext?(mime_type, extname)
Source: https://github.com/neocities/neocities/blob/master/models/site.rb
https://fusionanomaly.net/
Maybe it can fit there.

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>>4531
Damn, son, you really got the man and his style out of retirement? It was that easy?
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>>4533
Not him but some old magicians only need someone appreciating them to turn their skills on again
Looking forward to this venture
>>4533
he isn't retired, he has a profile on Behance and still does commissions
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>>4535
https://www.behance.net/Gyodea/appreciated
This guy?
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>>4536
Not sure if that's the guy but I was looking for him as well, I'll message him and see if it is.

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RIDERS ON THE STORM
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For enthusiasts with a bit of money about them there were surprisingly rich pickings that were (almost) universally loved:- Aston Martin, Jaguar, Lister, Lotus, Marcos, Morgan, Noble, TVR, etc.

That a bunch of those companies were to later get into poverty and stop production, well none of that had quite happened yet and they all still made smashing cars.

All quite expensive though and won't hold a family. Basically the only working man's champion in there is a second-hand Jag. Or, those years of rolls royce when they would accidentally over-produce some and the used car market would adjust by lowering.

If you were a middle-class man after a mass market car with still some sporting credentials, it's buy German, or American, or buy foreign because the domestic scene is pretty bleak even back then. Not getting into politics too much, but the red wall did a number on them all.

Take a look at that Vauxhall-Opel rebadged Suzuki Alto. Or how about European region's exclusive Mitsubishi to rival that of the Eclipse?
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I don't want to sound too pessimistic when frankly I'd be happy in any one of those cars. Even the Agila with a fog light delete and silly bolt on wind deflectors. But you have to do some car spotting to see them still out in the wild, whereas the Jaguars were generally well kept and looked after.
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Some spoilers they made back then are truly awesome. Best stuff since the huge wings of american aero warriors.
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>>4463
heck yeah, super saloons with widebodies and spoilers are fuckin sick
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>>4188
>Basically the only working man's champion in there is a second-hand Jag
I was thinking about a Jaguar XK or a Maseratti GT or Ghibli/Quattroporte because they were cheap (well under 10k dollaridoos, at times only 6k) and quite comfortable in their interiors, i am a sucker for interiors, but i keep reading they are shit-tier in terms of electronics and general reliability.
Point granted, most drivers are retarded in terms of checking their own cars and giving preventive caring measures but even mechanics hate these cars and outright charge unholy amounts of money to fix them. In my land the XK, despite being supposedly somewhat similar to the Mustang New Age, gets taxed to death in services because it's seen as a luxury ride.

If by working man we mean a british man who could take out the innards and fix them himself while having a magical discount/advanced knowledge to replace pieces then yeah, i agree.

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