/robowaifu/ - DIY Robot Wives

>>98 (OP) 
We should start by trying to nail down what consciousness is.

Are there any theories of consciousness that speculate that consciousness and theory of mind are related to sensory fusion phenomenon and communicating sensory information?  I know emotions evolved to help us learn and they are in effect a sensory fusion phenomenon and synesthesia is believed to exist in all of to verying extents and that js definitely a sensory fusion phenomenon.  Because if consciousness is all just sensory fusion and communicating sensory information then it might be possible to engineer something that does that.

>>101
>Because if consciousness is all just sensory fusion and communicating sensory information then it might be possible to engineer something that does that.

Maybe we could make something that simulates consciousness, but is not necessarily consciousness

>>103
Maybe that's all it has to do.  Simulating a good partner would resolt in something better than about 95% of relationships today.

>>128
Exactly my philosophy, and I suspect many others on here as well

I think you lads are onto something. While we can hardly even describe consciousness -- much less understand how it works what then for our abilities to mechanically reproduce it? -- I believe we can still pull a form of 'fake it until you make it' trickery (which approach, in general, has successfully served mankind for 10s of thousands of years).

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As Anon pointed out:
>"Simulating a good partner would res[u]lt in something better than about 95% of relationships today."
I myself would posit that if we can manage even half of that, then we would be ahead of the game in service to the vast majority of men in the west, eventually. Probably even less would still suffice as an improvement overall!  :D

>tl;dr
Feminism has so degenerated the female "species" anywhere it's taken hold today, that practically anything we can manage here will, in fact, be an improvement IMO. I don't think such a 'low bar' standards-wise will be at all difficult for us to surmount, given men's & children's already-preexistent propensities to anthropomorphize things; plus our desire to dote on, care for, & protect things.
>ttl;dr
The exact same characteristics of men that make us tend to be simps for roasties, will also lead us to happily adopt robowaifus!

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Easy W on our parts, I deem. Cheers.  :^)

>>236
>The quest for specific cues is partially why I made a psychology thread.
I'll presume that's an overly-polite way to say 'let's move to the proper thread Anons, and stop derailing here'? You can just be blatant GreerTech; /robowaifu/ has loong held that its important for us all to stay on-topic together (after all, we deal with so much fundamental complexity with our design & other goals here that we need all the help we can get to sort through it).

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Back to the topic:
>Well love is shown through specific actions, words, and attitudes.
>Put those into an AI just like roleplay AIs can be made into acting like a specific character, and boom, loving AI.
Agreed. I mentioned stealing borrowing from masterful writers : (cf >>136 ). To me this seems both a tried-and-true approach to character development, and also rather a straightforward (comparatively) mechanism for us to abuse here.

Want to know what robowaifu love means? Study the great writers on the topic of love, then begin with the most-simplistic, manifest reproductions of that within her behaviors. And so on.

>>237
>I'll presume that's an overly-polite way to say 'let's move to the proper thread Anons, and stop derailing here'? You can just be blatant GreerTech; /robowaifu/ has loong held that its important for us all to stay on-topic together (after all, we deal with so much fundamental complexity with our design & other goals here that we need all the help we can get to sort through it).

That was not my intention at all, I was just referencing it because it was related to my point. I'm sorry that you got that impression

>>239
Lol. That request isn't impolite on /robowaifu/ at all! Its in fact very helpful to everyone after the fact trying to relocate important information here. Just ask NoidoDev.  :^)

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Any comment on my actual point, Anon?

>>240
>Any comment on my actual point, Anon?
I agree with it. Engineering is based on building on previous creations. A great place to start is romance anime. I think we should also look at AI characters, especially from the romance anime, created by people on AI roleplay sites like Backyard AI.

>>242
That sounds like a really good idea to me, GreerTech. In fact I'll just point out along the way that film in general (whatever the medium) is by and large a fairly-concentrated form of writing. Millions and millions are at stake, so lots of focus is placed on story.

While its clearly not always true that filmmaking produces superior results to the lonely writer in his study, the basics of rich development are usually there.