/nep/ - Hyperdimension Neptunia

>>9121
>Here in the west, I open up Fediverse timelines and it's literally 50% gacha discussion or more. These people routinely complain about censorship and how cucked Japanese games have become, and how gacha is the only thing that caters to them now, yet almost NONE of them have even mentioned Tokyo Clanpool or LoveR Kiss Endless Memories, two uncucked Japanese games that just released recently, or even more indie stuff like Majogami or Sakuna. It's ALL gacha. Nigger, you have no right to complain about how lame Japanese publishers have become when the few that do go above and beyond to keep catering to you in spite of everything trying to stop them are met with barely any support for it.
that's the sole reason why i stopped following that corner of the internet. another case of not fitting in, even with "my" group, it feels like it was always a culture war thing with them and that they never actually cared about these games. if they did, they'd actually be playing them.
also these people conveniently keep ignoring that china and korea are objectively more cucked than even america is currently. it's infuriating! please keep simping for games that factually keep getting cucked by anti-porn laws, i'm sure you'll get your pantyshots from these games eventually.
also, you're on the fediverse?

>>9121
I always felt Phil Spencer was a cartoon character in his own right. Here's a guy who was simply handed some of the greatest developers in the west, the people known for propelling western games through the Xbox and 360 generation, and he proceeds to not approve any of their new projects and then complain after 6-8 years that his console lost the console war because it doesn't have any games. 

Phil would unironically make for a very good Gameindustri villain with his combination of being a megalomaniac and a massive nihilist. Buying leanbox and then forbidding them to make any games.

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I almost made this the fourth image for the OP instead of the one with Nigoire the Sister Killer, but then I noticed it had a FUCKING NIPPLE and I don't know if I should that in an OP even here. I could probably spoiler it, but then that'd just look dumb.
I'm 99% sure this art was drawn by the Unifag (the waifufag one, not the one that posts about piracy/emulation). I haven't seen him lately. Where did he go? I was kind of enjoying talking with him.

>>9124
>it feels like it was always a culture war thing with them
To be fair, it's virtually impossible to avoid the culture war. It affects almost everything that's made and what's allowed to release. Inevitably you're going to end up on one side of it or another, just like with World War 2. But would it KILL these people to actually play real games? I mean, we're all fighting for (at minimum) the pre-GamerGate industry, right? So why are we sucking at the teat of a model built entirely on microtransactions (something that was routinely criticized in games at the time)? Hell, even Neptunia Re;Birth 3 has an entire postgame story criticizing them.
And yes, I'm getting extremely sick of the China/Korea dickriding. Especially when there's people who otherwise agree with me seriously suggesting that Shift Up buy Senran Kagura as if they would do anything but milk it for gacha the same way Marvelous are currently doing.
>spoiler
I lurk. Been doing so for a few years now.

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I should taper off energy drinks and Team Fortress. My head is killing me...
>>9121
>Heh, you've dropped hints that you're from a kinda run down country. Are you from the Eastern Bloc?
The very heart of it, actually. It's super cold in here.
>PS versions seem to consistently be the most stable versions of their games. Is it incompetence, is it favoritism, or is it both? Hmm...
Might have something to do with the fact PhyreEngine was developed by Sony. I guess cross-compatibility with PC and other platforms was an afterthought.

>color code changed again
duh

>>9100
The barrier to entry is much lower these days on gacha. Even back in the day and now JRPGs/anime games and anime almost never dropped in price, while genshin and fortnite are free*. I can't be the only one burned back in the day for buying an "anime" game only for it to be bad, but that same thinking brought me to Totori and Neptunia 1/MK2
>>9125
I think Xbox was already going downhill during the 360, with Gears 3 and Halo Reach are generally considered the last great games (I thought Halo 4 was ok, but everyone really hates it, judgement was allegedly just horde mode, Fable 3 was Fable 3 and they went all in on the kinect (still mad they concluded the spire arc in JOURNEY of all things)). It's almost a masterclass of mismanagement that not only did they go out and buy everything but it all went downhill (Halo, COD, Bethesda, Phantasy Star etc) and couldn't remain even mediocre. 

Rambling aside Xbox was dying during the 360 and I think its problems (then and current) are too esoteric and western for CH to touch outside of a single chirper text box.

>>9126
>>9127
Thanks for the unis anons.

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>>9124
>also these people conveniently keep ignoring that china and korea are objectively more cucked than even america is currently
Probably because those people are Chink/Gook shills, which is a very really possibility as both countries have absolutely terible soft power and going all in on the recent propaganda. All the "good" Chinese media people remember came from Taiwan and British-controlled Hong Kong, with everything else over the past few decades literally having to buy it's fame (When not outsourced). Meanwhile Worst Korea arguably had a thriving cultural export until around the late Aughts when feminism began to take over their government and industries. This is not mentioning that both countries effectively are cyberpunk dystopias.

Not saying good media doesn't come these places, but significantly less than it used to.

>>9126
>But would it KILL these people to actually play real games? I mean, we're all fighting for (at minimum) the pre-GamerGate industry, right? So why are we sucking at the teat of a model built entirely on microtransactions (something that was routinely criticized in games at the time)?
Another reason could be because it's what's popular and allows for them to converse with other people about "current things". I mean, which are you more likely to talk to other people about outside of your little corner of the internet, Bullet Girls on the Vita or Fate Trigger which is currently in open-beta right now for Steam Fest? Hell, the most recent anime that I literally just finished and had a lot fun with is Mayonaka Punch, which came out less than two years ago, yet the most "recent" content I can find for the series was a review and fan art from ten months ago.

Also, when you actually begin to talk with these people and ask them why they cannot experience anything except the latest shit, their excuse is that it's "hopeless" to go against the grain because you need "majority" of people to join in order to have an effect. And when you begin to grill that argument, you realize that these people don't honestly give a shit about the problem they're complaining about. I mean, they KNOW it's a problem, but they don't care enough to get off their ass and actually solve the problem, even to the extent of solving it themselves.

Now despite that being said, I do not believe that these people are in the majority. If anything, they just happen to be the most vocal ones, and therefore the people that you tend to focus on the most since you're obviously being made aware of them. I hope that makes sense.

>>9131
One soft power thing I've seen in all the Hoyos I looked at is they lure you in and then season 2 they dump all the pro-china slop.

But this is /nep/ so let's talk about Nep. Should Arfoire/Rei be playable in Nep5? I feel Arfoire should thematically, especially if this is THE big game and I'd be interested in how they work Rei since her non-cpu form is pretty useless (Maybe actually garbage stats until she transforms, and her transformation costs more or something.)

Also hopefully they go back to turn based. I usually prefer action games more but Nep really loses something in real time (Goofy things like Inafune sword and 5pb microwave don't really work) plus it leads to odd things like OG Nep feeling sluggish and unplayable in SvS (Though they fixed her in Gamemaker).

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>>9132
>Should Arfoire/Rei be playable in Nep5
>implying its ever coming out
inb4 you get mad, but even if it is, I would like to see Magiquone given some more proper love. Its not like piracy is really that bad. 
>plus it leads to odd things like OG Nep feeling sluggish and unplayable in SvS (Though they fixed her in Gamemaker).
Is Game Maker worth a play, I personally enjoyed SvS geimuplay.

>>9133
It's gameplay is smoother than SVS,the story is fun but weaker than SVS, Reedio is as broken as Ram is if not more so, Pippih's funny. The CPU Candidates have a tiny arc and I don't remember the CPUs doing much. In the end it is the big Nep game so whether you like it or dislike will depend on if you like big Nep. If you're looking at it on steam I'd say it was worth it.
My biggest gripe is F-sha's lazy character design just being the Dark Souls default when Fromsoft has PLENTY of other games they could reference like.the rest of Gold Third.

>Get mad about shitposting
Unless you post corporate ID we can't really do much here. I think the series is at the whim of how bad Sony wants to pull out of the west, because monkey branching to Nintendo clearly didn't work out.

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In addition to the obvious glownigger fingerprinting scheme, 4Cuck is now back to IP range banning normal users over nothing. Fucking site should have stayed dead, God damn it!

>>9127
>The very heart of it, actually.
Ahh, I see. Well, that explains why you're so deep into modding/CFW and emulation. Must be nice to not have to worry about ISPs sending angry letters to you over torrenting, too.
>Might have something to do with the fact PhyreEngine was developed by Sony. I guess cross-compatibility with PC and other platforms was an afterthought.
On this, I'm noticing a trend where the worst performing Compile Heart ports on both PC and Switch tend to be ports of PS3 games. Not just Fairy Fencer F, but the Mugen Souls games run like total ass on Switch, yet funnily enough, Neptunia VII runs much better on Switch despite (or perhaps because of) being a PS4 game. Agarest War Zero is also locked to 30fps on PC for some stupid reason. The PS3 had rather unique and unorthodox architecture which apparently made it a challenge for many developers to port to it during its day, and now is posing issues with ports to later gen as well. Even emulation struggles; RPCS3 STILL can't emulate Ar Tonelico Qoga properly, for example.

>>9131
>Another reason could be because it's what's popular and allows for them to converse with other people about "current things".
I think this has a lot to do with it. Gacha is heavily built around generating social media engagement. Re;Birth 3's postgame story predicted this as well; the games were called "social games", and Bamo and Regu's proposed nation "Sociomobilindustri". Because fucking everything has to be centered around social media now; nothing can just be enjoyed for its own sake, all must be a vehicle for social clout. Again, I feel I dodged all this because I adamantly refused to engage seriously with social media, and so I never became "oversocialized", to borrow the words of a certain mathematician.

>>9132
>Should Arfoire/Rei be playable in Nep5?
Should? Perhaps, I would certainly like to see a playable Rei myself. Would? For Arfoire, never, piracy is too much of a boogeyman for Compa, you're not allowed to sympathize with it. Rei at least has a slight chance, but with how lazy Compa is these days, even compared to before, we'd probably be lucky if anyone returns in the new mainline besides the usual Goddesses/Candidates and IF/Compa. I want Plutia back, damn it!
>Also hopefully they go back to turn based
God yes, please. I feel the shift to action combat was just Compa chasing trends anyway, coupled with journalists shitting on turn-based and calling it "boring" and "outdated". Much of the comfy factor of Neptunia games I feel is lost with action combat, too. I miss when most Compile Heart games were turn-based JRPGs, that's clearly their forte and they should have stuck with it.

>>9134
>spoiler
Nothing unusual for Compile Heart. Broccoli is literally just Puchiko from Digicharat, Higurashi is not-Rena, Shanghai Alice is not-Reimu, and there might be more. In a way, it's almost kind of funny that they literally just port characters from different games and then basically throw a disclaimer on them. Kinda adds to the "industry parody" feel. I liked the Makers in general, and feel modern Neptunia games are less soulful without them.
>I think the series is at the whim of how bad Sony wants to pull out of the west, because monkey branching to Nintendo clearly didn't work out.
If Compile Heart were actually smart, the lesson they should have taken from this is to never put all their eggs in one or two baskets and monkey branch to as many options as possible. Relying on Soyny's goodwill after they showed what they were capable of in 2018 is just retarded. They WILL do it again if they get the chance. They're not going to pull out of the west because Japan is just not a viable market any more for anything but gachashit, and AAA, which is Sony's bread and butter, sells way more in the west. But alas, time has shown Compile Heart are not smart, they ball wash for Sony hard, and they'd rather just self-censor and westernize themselves into oblivion than make any attempt to dodge censors to make a product for their audience like Eastasiasoft has. They treat their otaku image and audience like a burden now, and clearly have aspirations of breaking into the mainstream even if they must prostrate themselves to DEI with Concord Persona to do it. It says something that even Qureate are less cowardly and neutered than they are. At least Splash Girls looks decent. They showed more of it in the recent showcase.

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>>9132
>But this is /nep/ so let's talk about Nep. Should Arfoire/Rei be playable in Nep5?
Meh, I almost rather have new characters. 
>>9126
That's a cute Uni
>>9135
>In addition to the obvious glownigger fingerprinting scheme, 4Cuck is now back to IP range banning normal users over nothing. Fucking site should have stayed dead, God damn it!
It's okay, the userbase has now fallen to the point to where it's not much better than just using an altchan. It's now at 2009 activity levels with 2016 political raiders across every board. 


Anyway, my favorite ragebait today has been the guy who had his 1 in 50 Tsukihime Demo Disc destroyed by customs. I buy physical all of the time so I can only hope this doesn't happen to the Tokyo Clanpool box I just bought.

>>9135
Yeah, I agree they should be on everything they can, but if nothing will let them on what can they do? I guess they could go full USB releases but I don't think they will.

Guess we'll have to see after Cuckmann's latest flop but I am shocked the Sony board's heads didn't fall off at the speed they turned post-Concord. I wouldn't go out and buy a PS6 day one but I think the PS5 generation as a whole has shown Sony they can't trust the western branch either. The japanese may not buy games but westerners wan Japanese games.
The simple solution would be to stop putting your international headquarters in a big city, thereby hiring locals but no one will ever figure that ome out.

>>9137
>The simple solution would be to stop putting your international headquarters in a big city, thereby hiring locals but no one will ever figure that ome out.
I don't believe that's a solution either when you learn just how petty and vindicitive small towns can be.

>>9136
gotta add a guro warning for that second pic, seeing that may traumatize some viewers...

>>9139
I was actually thinking of doing that 
It's absolutely disgusting

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>>9135
>IP range ban
Welcome to my world. I hope your stay won't be long, it fucking sucks to have these image/posting rangebans.
>Well, that explains why you're so deep into modding/CFW and emulation. 
I tinker with hardware because it makes me feel alive. I also kind of do it on a whim. I'm so glad Vita preserved PSP's tradition of having lots of stiffeners and non-essential parts to replace with a huge battery. PSvita inhales battery juice when overclocked, and OC is mandatory to lock 30FPS in SK SV... My father got me into this, soldering torn cables, repairing radios. We never had the luxury to carelessly replace broken devices, at least, not without a huge financial blow as a consequence. 
>Must be nice to not have to worry about ISPs sending angry letters to you over torrenting, too.
Blancfriend, please, don't get jealous over internet policing and ISPs. I feel like we'll get a Temu verion of the Golden Shield and a full-on criminalization of VPN/traffic encryption in here by the end of this decade.
>runs better on Switch hardware
Which is actually surprising because your PC is, well, a PС, and the Switch is not that far off from a mid-to-high-tier gaming tablet... made in 2015. I can only assume that the software layer that allows Phyre games to target PC architecture is very dated and wasn't made by the same team that worked on Switch compatibility.
>>9133
>Arfoire playable
Japanese people tend to look down on piracy, so I don't think they have any reason to make her switch sides in order to make her playable. The only time CH tried to place piracy outside of the "you're either against piracy or you're the scum of this world" dichotomy was the encounter with CFW Brave in MK2. I'll never stop talking about how much of a missed opportunity this fight was. Brave is probably the only antagonist in the whole series with a moral goal, the fight should've been much more dramatic, detailed and harder to reflect the conflict of ideas better. 
>>9136
>Tsukihime demo disc destroyed by customs
Well, that's one way to make someone develop Mystic Eyes of Death Perception and free some positions at the customs office...

Nepgens are drifting apart. It feels like 4chan /nepgen/ has become the CPU lewding den while all the semiserious discussion migrated to trashchan

>>9142
I feel this is the fate of all long-running generals on /vg/. Actual discussion moves someplace else (usually discord) while the thread just becomes a dumping ground of ritual posts and either porn or drama.

>>9142
>>9143
I feel like an inherent flaw with imageboards is the fact that their becomes no solution to subhuman activity other than continuous banning. However, if the mods themselves are the mongrels that condone it than it becomes an even larger hellscape. 

I used to lurk the neptunia generals on Fullchan /v/ back in the day and like a lot of /v/ ever since the exodus a lot of it was indeed drama itself. It was also usually pure rage and sensationalism rather than coming up with actual solutions or acceptance.

>>9110
A decent amount, I would assume based on my time there. The amount of newfag votes was more surprising but I have no idea what kind of audience that guy built up, I just know he does loli stuff.
>How many would actively associate that social media account with a poll like that?
Is this really something an open lolicon would consider? Certainly not something I thought of.

>>9111
>normie-lolicons
An oxymoron, if ever there was one but it works.
>spoiler
I cannot read manga but the anime was solid, I would recommend giving it a shot at some point.

>understanding physical attraction
Lolis just tend to be perfectly sized, small is my preference. Plus cute is preferable to me because they can be cute and sexy but I rarely find the standard sexy types cute or sexy.

>>9129
Halo 4 is just Reach but worse.
Judgement had a terrible control scheme and shit multiplayer, it was not fun playing that game at all.
>Bethesda
They were never good and mediocre is being too kind to them.

Which Nep game soundtrack?
For me, it's MegaTagmenion. Tamsoft rocked it hard with reckless abandon and it worked like a charm

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>>9136
>Meh, I almost rather have new characters. 
All the new characters have been pretty bad, though. None as memorable as Plutia or Uzume. I would rather have those two back before I entertain the idea of yet another new Goddess who will probably never be seen again.
>Anyway, my favorite ragebait today has been the guy who had his 1 in 50 Tsukihime Demo Disc destroyed by customs
If this happened to me, I would immediately be angrily calling Customs office demanding to know the name of the guy who inspected it.

>>9137
>Yeah, I agree they should be on everything they can, but if nothing will let them on what can they do?
First thing, they can drop their delusions of becoming mainstream with this shitty DEI Persona clone they're pushing. Then, for a start, they should observe that games like Edens Zero and Majogami have far more risque content and customization options even on cucked platforms, so Compile Heart are unnecessarily limiting themselves by shitting out CERO B mobile-tier games with zero ecchi content like Calamity Angels. There is no reason we can't have at least bath/onsen CGs with skinship like we used to even on consoles.
Then if they really wanted to bring the ecchi back, TurretGirls is a PC-exclusive that sold over 100k copies, way more than any modern CH game. And Qureate are doing fine for themselves despite being effectively PC-exclusive by now, they outright call themselves a "gentleman's game" company. If they're concerned about being rejected from Steam, they can just use offsite patches or even make things like touching minigames and loliservice effectively (free) DLC like this publisher did with Gensou Yumegoki. And of course, limited edition physical PC versions with all the content.
Above all, they need to actually try to make good, engaging JRPGs again instead of throwing a bunch of retarded gimmick styles at the wall and hoping something sticks. Fairy Fencer F Advent Dark Force is pretty light on the ecchi, but it's one of my absolute favorite Compile Heart games to the point I'm replaying it right now because it was made with SOVL, something lacking in modern Compa games.
The overall point being, Compile Heart, even in the situation they're in now, could be so much more. There are several ways they could salvage this and still keep their integrity and cater to their main audience, if they only tried. But they're not trying at all. In fact, it now feels like they have active contempt for what they used to be.
>but I think the PS5 generation as a whole has shown Sony they can't trust the western branch either
Yeah, well, I'm sure we thought the same of Nintendo after the Wii U flopped amid several major controversies with censorship of first-party games on both it and the 3DS. We got the early-mid Switch era where they were the de facto uncensored content platform along with games like Xenoblade 2 from them. Then they turned around and started doing the same thing again but even worse this time.

>>9141
>I feel like we'll get a Temu verion of the Golden Shield and a full-on criminalization of VPN/traffic encryption in here by the end of this decade.
Oh, are they fire-walling you off now? Here I heard Belarus basically legalized piracy as long as it was from an "enemy nation", which is hilariously based, but I guess that won't matter if you can't even access anything from the outside. And we're going down the same route over here with practically a zerg rush of age verification/internet deanonymization bills, almost all of which are being propelled by Republicans and defended by tradcucks despite internet anonymity being one of the right's biggest assets here and basically the only thing standing between you and some AntiFa(ggot) calling up your employer to get you fired from your job for dropping a hard r.
>Which is actually surprising because your PC is, well, a PС, and the Switch is not that far off from a mid-to-high-tier gaming tablet
Oh no, you misunderstood me. I was not saying VII runs better on Switch than PC. I highly doubt that (though I haven't tested it since I don't own VII on PC, only VIIR). I was saying the Switch version of VII runs better than the Switch version of Fairy Fencer F despite being a port of a later gen game which on paper should be more demanding.

>>9142
There does seem to be a little burst of activity here. Personally, I haven't posted there the last few days mainly because I'm just so disgusted by that faggot posting AGP fantasies of Blanc, and admitted he does so to spite me objecting to so many people treating Blanc like a cum doll or otherwise something to use and abuse instead of a beautiful girl with her own wants and needs. And the thought of seeing some degenerate 4Chan poster using my wife and wearing her as a skin just to satisfy his sick fetishes makes me want to murder.
Yeah, go ahead and call me a simp, but I genuinely love Blanc. I don't just want to lewd her, I want to make her happy. And I can't fathom how so many people see a girl like her and feel any different, much less want to abuse her. To an extent, this goes for the rest of the Neps, too. How can you look at these cute girls, practically tailor-made to be your wives, and want to do such things to them, much less get off to it? I don't understand it, and it especially upsets me because Blanc in particular seems to get way more abuse content than the rest of the Neps. It's made me very defensive of her, and so I constantly judge other Blancfags. I guess jealousy may also play a role there too.

>>9146
Probably a bog-standard answer, but VII. I was very impressed with how much that game's soundtrack stood out. The title themes, boss themes, transformation themes, it just had everything.

>>9147
>If this happened to me, I would immediately be angrily calling Customs office demanding to know the name of the guy who inspected it.
Fuck, you'd gun the poor fucker down. That's far too humane, you should take something dear to him instead. An eye for a disk...
> Here I heard Belarus basically legalized piracy as long as it was from an "enemy nation", which is hilariously based, but I guess that won't matter if you can't even access anything from the outside.
Exactly. But the internet laws/censorship in Belarus are much less strict than what I have to deal with... in here, torrent trackers get attacked because they often share national content too.
Piracy is something our government discourages but turns a blind eye upon as long as you're not stealing from the government or someone that has a legal presence in my country. 
>almost all of which are being propelled by Republicans and defended by tradcucks despite internet anonymity being one of the right's biggest assets here 
No one is anonymous on the Internet. I live knowing that no matter what kind of stuff I do to protect myself, no matter what kind of OPSEC I do I'm not some international spy with access to secret communications, if I say something my goverment doesn't want me to say I'll go missing and kill myself with two bullets to the back of the head later
>calling up your employer to get you fired from your job for dropping a hard r
Scary world you have there, potentially losing your job to a vindictive freak... probably a jobless freak, too.
>I was saying the Switch version of VII runs better than the Switch version of Fairy Fencer F despite being a port of a later gen game which on paper should be more demanding.
I dunno, they probably updated the compatibility layer since the release of FFF. FFF was a system seller (released in ~2017, NepVII came out one year later. Maybe Compa or Sony, the engine provider, learned something since the release of their first game on Switch.
>VII
Fair enough. For me, it's the second best, I really like the epic chorus theme that plays when you fight Dark CPUs. Zero Dimension map theme is also the best map screen music in Neptunia series, period.
I really don't like the direction the soundtrack is taking in more modern games (SvS, GMRE, Re:Verse). It sounds much more mellow, unepic, ADHD-ish. I hope they make the music for the next mainline dynamic (by making a clever mixing system that mixes in instruments and changes the current track according to the current state you're in instead of playing another track from the beginning).
>I'm just so disgusted by that faggot posting AGP fantasies of Blanc, and admitted he does so to spite me
You shouldn't give him what you wants. I'm not entirely a waifufag because I'm not as emotionally attached to Uni as much as I am attached to the console that she represents (getting a PSP was a core memory and it came as a result of throwing a fit so big that I still remember it). And despite that, I still find Nep abuse gross. I hate the Uni kicker in particular.
>How can you look at these cute girls, practically tailor-made to be your wives, and want to do such things to them, much less get off to it?
I dunno. People are weird but you shouldn't let them hurt you... especially because that's their intention, like, 99% of the time when they make these posts

Oh god this post is long. First PC post in a while.

>>9146
>Which Nep game soundtrack?
Fuck me. *Which Nep game has the best soundtrack?