/retro/ - Y2K

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>>5169
Same to you.

>>5381
>I'd like to present a new reissue of DKBTrace 2.12
>it brings together originally separate archives into a single package
Great job anon! Archival efforts like these are very important and I'm pleasantly surprised that David Buck is still around to help out. I'll definitely play around with this release when I have time.
>GNU Affero General Public License
Honestly not a fan of this choice. I expected the original license to be replaced by something equally short and simple, like the MIT License used in the open sourcing of MS-DOS, instead of the behemoth that is AGPL.
>archive.org
Are there plans of mirroring the code + scenes on a git repo somewhere? The Internet Archive hasn't been reliable lately.

>>5384
>Honestly not a fan of this choice. I expected the original license to be replaced by something equally short and simple
Using AGPL (and the old CC versions) was mainly about consistency with POV-Ray, I get what you mean about the verbosity of it though (who doesn't love legalese??)
>Are there plans of mirroring the code + scenes on a git repo somewhere?
Good idea, some static repositories would make forking easier too; the code would definitely benefit from some updates.

>>5385
>Using AGPL (and the old CC versions) was mainly about consistency with POV-Ray
Why does DKBTrace need to be consistent with modern POV-Ray?
Personally I don't see any benefit to this change. The original license was very simple and permissive save for one restriction; no commercial use. The AGPL replaces that with a dozen other restrictions and words everything in unreadable legalese. Not exactly an improvement...
DKBTrace is almost 40 years old. If anything it should be released into the public domain and made more accessible, not less.
>some static repositories would make forking easier too
If you can self host then consider cgit or stagit. Both are very lightweight and have minimal dependencies, while sporting a perfectly /retro/ look.
https://git.zx2c4.com/cgit
https://git.codemadness.org/stagit
If self hosting is not an option then maybe find a public Gitea instance. These are partially usable without JS and are overall more pleasant to work with than Github and co.

>>5388
>Why does DKBTrace need to be consistent with modern POV-Ray?
Well it does make potential useful innovations from upstream easier to implement in forks, should that be worthwhile. It also seemed easier to me anyway when reaching out to David about this to suggest bringing things in line with POV-Ray as it exists currently.
>If anything it should be released into the public domain and made more accessible, not less.
I don't think the terms of AGPL are likely to be an issue in using the code, even with all the legal-speak of the license text the requirements are pretty simple to follow and in many ways reflect the default of open source development anyhow.
>These are partially usable without JS and are overall more pleasant to work with than Github and co.
For sure, Github & Gitlab can be kind of a pain with all the mandatory JS.

>>5381
>>5384
https://codeberg.org/19100/dkb212agpl
Alright, I think this should be good for mirroring and forking as desired. Since it's meant to be a static archive pull requests are disabled, but let me know if you run into any problems anons.
Have fun!

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>>2564 (OP) 
>seen twin towers or witnessed 9/11, even if you were 3 or 4 back then?
1996 here, so I was in kindergarten.
I don't remember much of that day beyond school ending early and me going back home to play some Crash Team Racing or Tomb Raider, blissfully unaware of the events that happened. My parents might have been in the living room watching the news, but at that time news and politics just seemed like boring old people activities, so I didn't bother investigating.
My parents nor my school never told us what happened, and I only found out a year or two later.

>>3303
This board is specifically designed with millennials and Zillennials in mind. It’s 1990s/2000s nostalgia, I.e. those ideally born between 1985 to 2001 are welcomed here to express their reminiscing about their younger years during those two decades. 

>>3402
>>3403
I don't see how someone using that phrase makes them a bot any more than saying some other online colloquialism like "n00b" or "normalfag" makes someone a bot, nor do I see how one could deduce that anon watches YouTube kids just from their comment alone. That's quite a reach and blindly talking down to them in that fashion doesn't help anyone. Anon is an old fart to enjoy himself like the rest of us here, not to be shat on. All this started just because someone politely wished to claim that they don't jive with the Zoomer label and wish to be referred to as "Zillennial", then the thread devolved into whatever this shitshow is.

>>3404
To be honest I personally don't care what lingo or terminology is being used. Whatever you can say to get the point across, as long as everyone understands what we are talking about. I see plenty of people here using certain phrases that the average person has no clue what it means. Even "lol" is not everyday speak in real life. 

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I ended up going down a 9/11 rabbit hole recently, and it put me in a pretty bad state of mind. I saw someone making an offhand mention of the allegedly lost "lol superman" gore video, and that piqued my morbid curiosity. I considered myself pretty jaded about the attacks due to memories of all the maudlin imagery and cheap virtue signaling that was everywhere right after 9/11 (and that helped justify America playing world policeman and getting even more people killed), but I didn’t really know the grisly specifics of what happened. I remember people jumping to their deaths, but I never thought much about it. I'd never considered what became of the jumpers' bodies when they hit the ground, that people in the vicinity were in danger of being killed by falling bodies (intact or not) and rubble, that the whole area was strewn with body parts, or that emergency personnel might come across victims of the attacks whose lower bodies had been turned to mush but still weren't completely dead. I ended up coming across some footage where you could hear bodies thumping as they hit the ground and an old /x/ thread that had been archived and included some pretty graphic images. Part of me is glad that these things have been brought to my attention, but another part feels like I would have been better off not knowing the gruesome details.

I posted earlier in the threads about not caring at all about 9/11, so it’s kind of weird that I developed a bit of an interest in it decades later. I 

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It feels weird that it's been 25 years now.

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>You're finally awake! You hit your head pretty hard... 9/11? Terrorist attack? Jet fuel? What are you talking about? Let's go eat falafel.

>>5226
*Craig

>>5226
Nintendo Power wasnt enough like RAW magazine

>>3827
Its so mature for its age. 
and somewhat more paletable than 
other cyberpunk games-not just point n click

>>5134
I just read this article and I really enjoyed it. Thank you so much for compiling all this info and making it easily available so what remains of Pure Dragon does not become lost media. I was so sad to learn about that animated pilot which had not been archived.

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>>4856
That's one reason I mostly prefer match-based games where there's no lasting commitment involved. I can just play a session and then move on with my day. I'm mostly a PC guy, but, like you said, older games are also good for that. The original Castlevania is one I remember getting pretty good at. I've beaten it maybe two or three times. I struggled fighting Dracula at the end, but once I got his pattern down it wasn't that hard at all.

>>5358
>I'm open to suggestions for other communities where I can post this.
NTA but the official newsgroups are still decently active https://news.povray.org/groups/

>>5360
https://www.povray.org/resources/
> 		

The POV-Ray Newsgroups are the best place to get help from other users, find discussion about POV-Ray and much more. These newsgroups are hosted on our own server and as they are not connected to Usenet they do not suffer from spam and similar problems. 
>You may either access the newsgroups with any standard newsreader at news://news.povray.org/ or use our web view at http://news.povray.org/. For the web view you need to enable cookies in your browser, and in order to post messages via the web interface you first need to register. 
Now I have an example to show that usenet can be used to power a standalone forum.

>>5360
>>5364
I found an archive of POV-Ray's old Usenet messages here:
https://archive.org/details/pov-ray-usenet-archive-mbox
I haven't yet checked the contents of this archive, so I don't know if there's any overlap between it and what's currently on the POV-Ray website, but I thought I'd share it regardless.

>>5365
I was curious and it looks like the newsgroups started sometime in 1997:
https://web.archive.org/web/19971212011214/http://www.povray.org/
https://web.archive.org/web/19971212012629/http://www.povray.org/groups.html
<The povray.* news groups are here as a test. They may or may not stay, depending in part on how much (and how) the POV-Ray community ends up using them.
Now here we are near 30 years later, talk about a lot of history!

New thread >>5382

They're all playing for me now.

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Just saw the Double Dragon film, and it was unironically a very etertaining movie. Yes, it was silly and extremely stupid, but it also had something "earnest" about it inronically enough. Much more so than all of the recent productions that try to "replicate" that cheesiness of 90's sci-fi and fantasy films.

ATTENTION
The complete first season of ReBoot has been remastered from the original tapes and is now available to watch for free on jewtube
https://inv.nadeko.net/playlist?list=PLebOl1sFZbNlZPmxjlN-orD4VOnybu9Fp

>>5361
POTD

>>5361
>related:
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=L00jx-GH2w8

>>3808
Yes, it was Jordan at his peak. However, the Bulls in the 90s were officially discussed as a Dream Team. Only sports news I have seen come close to how the Bulls were dominating in the 90s is Tom Brady and company in football.

I got one of those bart simpson gulf war shirts haha

>>4437
Remember where you bought it?

>>4439
ebay

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I would probably wear this fake Operation Highjump design if the shirt fit well.

>>5268
Thanks! Hmm, sounds interesting. I was already leaning towards OpenBSD, so I'll probably investigate that approach.

Any specifics detail advice would be appreciated here.

>>5269
Have you decided on anything yet? I'm just kind of curious. As someone who isn't very good with computers past being able to install and set up basic Linux distros, OpenBSD always came across to me like the final boss of PC neckbeard wizardry. With the negative direction Linux seems to be headed as far as freedom is concerned, I think of it almost like a final frontier.

>>5246
But does VPN work on winxp so you can go torrent your 20+ year old tv shows rather than browse gay websites in modern censorious times? A broken browser could still find magnet links I'm sure, but then again firefox is needed to use the high seas now as it has malicious ads if you don't have ublock and such installed so chrome isn't going to cut it now that I've thought about it so never mind. 
>>5241 (OP) 
At least it had a classic mode.

>>5353
>At least it had a classic mode.
I preferred the classic look too.

>>5353
>But does VPN work on winxp
It worked the last time I tried it, it took me some time to figure out how to set it up properly but it worked

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Has anyone used Fieldstation42? https://github.com/shane-mason/FieldStation42

I just started looking at it and it looks like it could be the software I've been wishing for for years. It lets you simulate broadcast TV with your own programming.

I hope to set it up soon myself, if I do I'll post about it here.

>>5336
>if I do I'll post about it here.
Please do! Thanks Anon.

>>5335
I'm not sure. My taste is pretty autistic, so it can be kind of hard to find things that satisfy me. The arcade one seems kind of cool. I'd rather get one of these though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuPJpSKuqUc

I already have the AY3, which admittedly doesn't get much use, but I'm more of a fan of the sound of the NES style of chip sound. Since I'm pretty satisfied with my collection, I'm trying to lay off buying any more synthesizers (and with a Hapax and a Picotracker in addition to software options, it seems like my sequencing options are covered). The hapiNES wouldn't take up much space though. It's the larger HapiNES L version that would interest me, since I don't even think the smaller one has MIDI.

If I didn't already have a good FM synth collection, I might be looking into MiniDexed. What I have would be overkill for most people.
>>5336
Looks neat. I'll be interested in hearing about your experiences with it.

>>5336
https://www.instructables.com/How-To-Save-Analog-TV/
<TL;DR: RF Modulator -> Analog TV Amp -> Coat Hanger
>;)

>>5335
the po33 is cool. also the ko2. good samplers

Wait, is my00stv dead? Oh n-
>https://www.myretrotvs.com/
what a save

>>5284
You really can channel surf on this one, huh? Have to figure out how you can do that time-wise. -I have never owned cable television.-

https://markprindle.com/

This unique music review site, which began in 1996 and stopped being updated in 2011, was one I read a lot in high school toward the end of its run. I still go back and read it sometimes.

>>5343
Oh I remember this, I used to read it in college.

>>5344
I first found it when I was searching for information on Killing Joke, and the off-kilter sense of humor kept me coming back. I even like reading his reviews of bands I don't have much of an interest in for that reason.

He's a pretty thin-skinned guy from what I've heard though. Someone I talked to on an imageboard in the past said they were friends with him on Facebook at one point, but he got pissy over political differences and unfriended them. I still enjoy his work in spite of that.