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Does the community on Cinematik or Cinemageddon actively discuss cinema ? I am on secret-cinema but I do not see them discussing , maybe their discussion forum thread is locked for higher class user, Moreover is Cinematik or Cinemageddon recruiting ?
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I like they are allowing Asian uploads. I was disabled for inactivity from http://asiancinema.me/
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Did the site also change ownership? I assume the random user I never heard of  who "improved" the design to resemble a generic nu-tracker was also promoted to admin.

As a testament to this new direction, Cinematik has been offline for a few days following vague drama amongst the mods
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>>3586
>random user I never heard of  who "improved" the design was also promoted to admin
Many such cases, i keep finding that hijacking projects is easier than making new ones. Should be obvious but the sheer shamelessness of it still strikes me, it's a lesson taken straight out of a subversion manual.
I didn't quite use it like i should've due to being somewhat hard to seed but it was a great site, particularly for hard to find DVD extras.
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>>3588
>i keep finding that hijacking projects is easier than making new ones.
Most non-autotrophic organisms on Earth are parasites and that's not even counting viruses. Creation and sovereignty are generally selected against by genetics, it's not entirely surprising that human activity would reflect this. The difference between genes and memes is that we can control selective pressures in human culture, so there is still hope for a future where hijacking projects is a net negative for everyone involved.
The site is back without any discussion of what happened. There's more discussion of the situation at HDBits—but in a thread about Blutopia...
The details are still unclear, but it sounds like people with overlapping staffing responsibilities on these three sites had a personality clash.

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>Previous thread bumplocked >>34
https://archive.is/wip/VtFwQ
https://web.archive.org/web/20231115214701/https://anon.cafe/film/res/34.html

Is Hawkmenblues completely gone? Don't want to scroll through his twitter account. hawkmenblues.net is no more.
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>>3558
I don't know why anyone would even think about trying to remake Nosferatu anyway. You'd be going up against F. W. Murnau and Max Schreck's version  AND against Werner Herzog and Klaus Kinski's version. That's a high bar to even try to compete against. And who is it even made for? People who want to watch the 1922 version but don't like silent B&W movies?
I really enjoyed The Order. It's a genre film done right.
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Figured it would be good for others, I've been scratching my brain for hours (unhealthy?) trying to remember where the he'll I saw this scene: A man wearing a hat steps outside to smoke a cigarette, when a phantasmagorical hand appears from thin air and seems to bother his psyche...
The weirdest thing about this is that it felt like a silent film, but the elements like the man and his hat felt very noir-ish... And this might be the years of substance abuse catching up to me but I even remember the scene being purple tinted and the floating hand yellow tinted... Or was it the other way round! Am I losing it!
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>>3251
Maybe this? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070289/
film released between 2017 and 2019. stars an old man with a bolt action rifle and lots of scenes are notable because the audience sees through the scope of his rifle. he's a drifter or something i believe fighting/monkey wrenching with ecologically rooted motivations, definitely screened at film festivals. color scheme is somewhat de-saturated and I think it takes place in a desert
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>>3574
has to be this, rifle scope scenes
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2837574/
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>>3583
it's actually not this movie, i think it's lesser known and far more moody, i just remember a trailer for it.
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>>3584
well, fuck me side-ways and call me Sally then

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Hello anons, what were your top flicks of the year 2024?
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>I found the lighting to be terrible
I found it to be obviously overdone at times, notably in the bathroom where strong lighting appeared outside the lamp positions. 
>Most A24 movies are generally riddled with cinematography that looks good if you’ve never used cameras 
I am not fond of A24 cinematography but i've used cameras and it highly depends on the personal and particular palate of every person IMO, i've seen tons of stuff but i keep coming back to flashy complex camera movements which are considered pure trash and unnecessary by the few actual technicians i've met, their reasoning is that the camera should be discreet and pragmatic which in my opinion and recent experience ends with placing it stationary and not following the action at all, might as well put the gaffer to be the cinematographer if it is that simple.
But i also sadly consider those dear friends cattle-tier because they think the cinematography of Tarantino is good but John Woo bad despite both using the very same techniques often and for the same uses, so i don't know their full reasoning.
I recall The Substance overusing many placements quite fast, for example the contemporary audience zoomers by today's trendy vocabulary loves zenithal shots due to i don't know, food videos and overall product photography bombarded at them?, and in the first 10 minutes i think they used that placement 7 or 8 times, i even pointed it out to my friend so he could start planning how much money he would lose.
>lighting is truly the lost art form
Now i am retarded with light but perhaps the problem is the same? technicians going for the minimalistic approach and doing the bare minimum? and when they want to do something flashy they put more hardware quantity rather than quality design?
>don’t remember any standout shots
I don't want to defend that movie but i guess i will download it so i can find the examples i mentioned, they were 3 seconds at most but i recall smiling at the editing, remind me a lot of 90's action movies.

>The problem imo has less to do with the fact that a woman spearheaded the movie
My problem was that it took a very partisan view of the topic, it wanted to propose a serious theme about it but employed hyperboles that went into cartoonish lengths and didn't explore it meaningfully, didn't help that it was redundant at times, the messages were very obvious to read but it kept hammering them down. My problem is that writers and directors make stuff considering the audience is mentally stunted or downright retarded.
>so in effect they’re making things that essentially their 19 year old selves would have created
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I downloaded the thing and shamefur dispray, i can't see the A24 logo and the shot i recall the most wasn't near as interesting as i remembered it, first vid here from 0:19 to end: I recall the zoom out transition from backg to foreg was way faster and covered more distance, i also don't recall the focus pull being that slow, i don't know why i remembered it was already in focus when the zoom finished. I guess all this was because i saw it on the big screen and was quite close it, hence feeling a bit more drastic and my eye movement forgiving some speed details. I apologize.

Also second vid for those who might be remotely interested in this topic: This is what i mean when the movie goes to cartoonish lengths to explain a message or intent, here being the ruthless nature of producers which was shown a minute with 30 seconds before by the same character being overly rude and cold when discussing a business decision, so the director chose to do this to explain further that the guy was quite rude.

Third vid is to support an opinion using fourth vid as genre reference (which is itself another concept failure story): If this shit was worked as a comedy, an absurdist one that doesn't take itself seriously at any point other than plot coherency (and only remotely), it would've worked a bit more interestingly, for example in this third vid w
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>>3576
Architecton dir. Kossakovsky | ? | ?
Sanatorium Under the Sign of the Hourglass dir. Brothers Quay | ? | Afternoons of Solitude dir. Serra
The Wolves Always Come at Night dir. Brady | ? | ?
? | Grand Tour dir. Gomes | Scenarios dir. Godard
Pepe dir. Arias | ? | ?
Abiding Nowhere dir. Ming-liang | ? | ?
? | Journey of Shadows dir. Netzhammer | Tristan und Isolde dir. Grandrieux
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>>3575
Secondary is a series of films and multi-media installations. I saw commencement, Astroturf and all in a gallery. Can’t help with a link. Drawing Restraint is an entirely different installation.
>>3579
Architecton dir. Kossakovsky | ? | ?
Sanatorium Under the Sign of the Hourglass dir. Brothers Quay | ? | Afternoons of Solitude dir. Serra
The Wolves Always Come at Night dir. Brady | ? | ?
? | Grand Tour dir. Gomes | Scenarios dir. Godard
Pepe dir. Arias | Lolo & Sosaku: The Western Archive dir. Caballero | ?
Abiding Nowhere dir. Ming-liang | ? | ?
The Garden Cadences dir. Komljen | Journey of Shadows dir. Netzhammer | Tristan und Isolde dir. Grandrieux

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What was the last thing you watched, and what did you think of it?
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>>3542
I'm just some random anon, but I appreciate effortposts and things which have some thought put behind them, so thank you.
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I watched Simon of the Desert (1969), directed by Luis Buñuel, for the first time. It's about 45 minutes long. Filmed in Mexico, it's in spanish.
It's loosely based on the story of the ascetic 5th-century saint Simeon Stylites, who lived for 39 years on top of a pillar. Monks, peasants, his mother, and Satan in the form of an attractive woman come to talk and (as he implies) tempt him.
What a curiosity! This is a film that many claim to be a surreal satire of the Christian religion/Catholicism, and yet feels so... accurate to the emotional realities of being a human, a sinner, even a saint.
It's a film made by an alleged atheist, and yet it doesn't feel like one.
Is humanistic the right word here?
Only, the last scene feels surreal, and it seems most don't know what to make of it; the transition to it stunned me, absolutely stunned me.
It took me until looking at IMDB audience reviews to even see what was supposed to be satire! I took it completely seriously. Perhaps I'm a fool.
When looking around for information, I found out that the woman who played Satan literally died about 5 days ago!
Fascinating film.
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>in the form of an attractive woman
You watched because the actress Silvia Pinal died 2 or 3 days ago, right? RIP Coast Queen ;_;
>literally died about 5 days ago!
You got a coincidence, happened to me very often.
It was supposed to be 3 films about religion by 3 directors but all bailed on Buñuel and he released only that one. Supposedly he's Simeon's son who wanted to one-up his ancestor, it's a critique on the saint's personality and his few actions having consequences, particularly as the few people close to him suffer often from his antics like his mom being desolate, monks getting punished for trivial actions and even leading to one abandoning his habit. 
>I took it completely seriously
I did too but it was hard, the conclusion of the first scene is comedy: The town prays to Simon to make a dude grow his hands again, when the request is granted, and he grows the hands, he leaves unceremoniously and the first thing he does is slap his own daughter in irritation after she wanted to see them; the possessed monk condemning the religious dogmas and monks defending their position despite few of them knowing what the hell they meant, the line of "i conjure in the name of Christ to leave alone this just and decent person alone" after getting knocked out, the whole interaction with the young monk and the midget goat herder, which is a micro story by itself. The comedy is done deadpan but it is there, pretty usual from the catalunyan.

>seems most don't know what to make of it
If you look for fruit you will find one but while some see apples others see oranges. I recall one of my viewings of it was in a local college cinema club named after the movie itself so everyone was just navel gazing, which i don't mind as the movie is cherished here and i was amused by one of the explanations: Considering Buñuel wasn't very fond of the bourgeois his work had identified with names, and surnames sometimes included, some of the "bad guys" like the superstitious, ritualistic freemasons mixed with jews in Exterminating Angel, as multiple factors which include even genes in The Young & Damned but mostly lack of social values, as trustfund kids in Criminal Life of Archivaldo de la Cruz which was a parody of an actual dude the social circles knew but under the narrative of a previously done book and in this one as who knows, a seemingly well-versed dude's explanation in the club was that the bad guy/bourgeois/spook here is pride and "the incoming hordes of the antichrist", the antichrist in the post-roman/Nero meaning being the pharisee/zionist messiah and the muslim conquest.

Why? some wondered, he said the devil in his futa form took Simon on his last day (he died let's say) to Hell, but as said by some hell is personal and customized, so Simon's hell was modernity (back in the 60's) in a packed night club on what the guy said was the most jewish city on Earth back then, New York. At this point i was laughing but he continued, the man who never spend time with many people and was ultra prude was suddenly inside this place dancing the twist closely while drinking and smoking with the devil, with even the monk who was worried about the hordes of the anti-christ and liked to check on chicks dancing around like a mad man.
In here at one point Simon wonders what's this dance called, the one where everyone tweaks like possessed and look like convulsing, the devil replies Radioactive Flesh, which obviously references the aftermath of a nuclear incident on humans: It is the final dance, the ending piece. As the blonde fury gets to dance Simon excuses himself and announces he's going back home, the devil then warns him that he has news for him buddy, his home is now occupied by someone else, he will have to withstand and wait with him until the end, the very end.
OK we said, we got that part but what about it? occupied? the guy then blankly stated that Simon Estilitas was from what is now Northern Syria, around the old city of Aleppo, and that back when the movie was made and came out (mid-60's) the region was dealing with the entire ordeal of jews invading and doing shit around with muslims going extremist and taking pan-arab ideals seriously, which would later boil in the 6 Days War, the PLO vs. IDF, USS Liberty incident, widely-seen Maryan apparitions like The Lady of El-Zeitoun, so on and so forth with the fear of Israel having or not nuclear capabilities after Kennedy got killed and replaced by LBJ who fast-tracked nuclear weapons and programs to Israel for deterrence.
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Someone else here is also posts on /vhs/ so I'll post this addendum here too.

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The issue of unfulfilled sex and marriages is one that speaks clearer to the Japanese (and Koreans) so I would say the movie is commenting on the first-world problems that have manifested in post-war submission to liberal democracy and the bubble pop (Heisei malaise so to say) that at least half of Japanese intellectuals have commented on at some point but felt the themes were universal in fundamental and "small"/apolitical enough on a sociopolitical level that it'd be diminishing the film to include as a serious point.

Two more small things. The protagonist is played by the director's wife, not sure if that was a metapoint or for Sono to confront whatever conflict he has with sexuality without hypocrisy or just a display of insecure security, there's an interview with her on the film I haven't watched so maybe she'll say something about it. And this really isn't a spoiler but I'll count it anyway since it's a part of the film, the film briefly touches on how marriages based on pure love and checkmark qualifications (f.e. they're intelligent or well-mannered) can ruin a bloodline, and that level-headed discrimination towards personality, morals, purity, disposition, etc. must be considered in the consummation process which is something families no longer practice as it's s
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> If a Tree Falls: A Story of the Earth Liberation Front

In this documentary it was interesting to see how the antifa left changed from the 00s until now. Previously they wanted to preserve old growth forests and stop globalism. Now they've cast all that aside in favor of negro worship and pervert maxxing. They have no qualms about tearing down forests to build jeetboxes all the way to the horizon, at best they blame LANDLORDS (kulaks) instead of people with real power. They are still violent nihilists, but instead of opposing the system they are shock troops in its service.

The documentary treats literal terrorists with sympathy. It even gets the US attorney (or whatever) to say kind words about them. With this in mind, are violent leftists more acceptable to the system than non-violent groups on the radical right? I've seen no evidence to the contrary in recent decades..

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Lately I've been watching nonfiction content from the silent era -- found footage, documentary, early fragments. This excellent video from the Museum of Modern Art captures a lot of what attracts me to these films.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNwiPgknn8
>It's not so much being seduced by a story, it's the thrill of seeing in itself.

I'm just disappointed that it's often difficult to find quality versions of this stuff. Watching anything potato quality youtube or even DVD doesn't do justice to the footage, and you lose the experience of time travel if you can't see clear details.
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>>3232
I refuse to watch it until they restore the 9+ hours version.
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I finished Napoleon and it's undoubtedly a monumental film, much better than J'accuse, but I was surprised that the essence of Napoleon's life - his conquest of Europe - is not even included. After 5 and a half hours, Napoleon finally takes his first step into Italy.

The End.

The impressionistic triptych is beautiful regardless. I suppose Waterloo is a better film for coverage of the Napoleonic Wars. I've also got the Sacha Guitry's Napoleon from 1956 but I've never seen anyone recommend that one.
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2024 Napoleon restoration from French television. I don't know if I'll watch this given the time investment, but I'm surprised to see this negative reaction on KG from someone who is very familiar with the film

https://gofile.io/d/2EbQqx

A review of a Paris screening. Is it common to have heavy security simply to enter a theatre or is that just part and parcel of living in a modern European city?

https://therealmofsilence.com/2024/07/11/napoleon-at-la-seine-musicale-2024/
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>Is it common to have heavy security simply to enter a theatre or is that just part and parcel of living in a modern European city?
Not a Euro-fag but I travel a lot. Heavy security is pretty common in most public places in large cities in both the US and Europe. Just another side affect of bringing a bunch of 3rd world niggers into a once nice society.

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 A lot of people tend to look down on television as disposable slop for nigger cattle, which a lot of it is. That said, I do enjoy seeing a story being told over a series of interconnected episodes as opposed to a single standalone feature. It allows a lot more time for the characters and plotline to develop, and makes a great vehicle for sci-fi/fantasy worldbuilding. 

The last show I saw was the Prisoner from 1968. It's about a retired glowie who gets kidnapped by a shadowy organization and made to live in a bizarre little town that runs on its own set of rules while they interrogate him about his past and play psychological tricks on him to get him to give away the information they want.

What are some other TV shows worth watching that make the most of what the medium has to offer?
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Most TV was completely disposable until recently - try watching a random episode of something produced in the sixties. Unbearable.
Even so, the emergence of television pulled audience away from theaters. The film industry responded by enhancing the moviegoing experience with new innovations like Cinerama, 3D and most importantly Cinemascope.
I could list some favorite TV content (and there are plenty of noteworthy miniseries and TV movies) but I was trying to think of people who developed a signature style working exclusively with television. There's Adam Curtis, Frederick Wiseman, but who else? These guys didn't just make downmarket versions of proper films, they took the TV format in a fresh direction. I suppose Ken Burns fits too, but he's a step below the other two.
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>>3533
>try watching a random episode of something produced in the sixties. Unbearable.
I don't think all tv shows from that time period were necessarily like that. We still got some unique or influential stuff like the Prisoner and the original Star Trek. There was also this whole subgenre of sci-fi/mystery anthologies like Twilight Zone and the Outer Limits or Into the Unknown in the UK.

>(and there are plenty of noteworthy miniseries and TV movies)
Like what?
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>Into the Unknown
Out of the Unknown
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I am fucking slow, was gonna make this thread 2 years ago

>The Prisoner
Vast majority of the hype back in the day and references are from the famous series Secret Agent Man, aka Danger Man, which starred the same protag doing what the title would suggest, despite using a lot of James Bond material as a reference the irony is that the 007 film series ripped tons of ideas from SAM.

Now, as far as i remember the trivia story is one day the actor didn't want to renew because his demands were not met and was seemingly unceremoniously laid off/forced to resign, so later some previous writers and he did a seemingly unrelated series called The Prisoner based on previous ideas and which ended up starring the man as a former secret agent, having the same code number which replaced his name, reflecting about the very similar experiences and being played around by the organization either previous employer or the enemy's, or were they the same? in a Fantasy Island setting turned crazy which interestingly enough is supposedly very similar to a place he raided in the series

As you might expect this was a fucking phenomenon and a quite explicit showdown against his former character/series, doesn't help it was released at the h
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>Most TV was completely disposable until recently
>Unbearable.
Completely disagree but it is true that back in the day series were chuck filled with filler, which breaks a lot of narrative continuity. Although we can argue that's the entire reason for TV shows.
But like anon said we got the original Twilight Zone which is mostly very good.

One idea i had was separating the main plot from the filler in some series, The X-Files is famous for the fanbase doing that, with the so-called Mythology being 62 episodes compared to the 200 something the entire thing has.
For example The Fugitive is usually spouted as one of the most memorable series from back in the day but it's 120 episodes and all of them i saw on syndicated TV were filler, so that doesn't spell good news. 

My plan was to separate the main arc episodes from the "side quests" in series i was planning to see but ended up just watching other stuff not quite related to normal TV anime so i didn't do it, just watched a season of Renegade which was nostalgic as hell but certainly not very good and didn't really advance the plot from the pilot; a very decent time capsule of the 90's i admit, that's the only honor i would give it. 
Another idea i had was selecting what i would thi
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I think charts are pretty great
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We take ownership of every /film/ reference right
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>>3527
Sure seems so to me here, Anon.
I see you downloaded all the charts from the mega I posted on 4chan. I appreciate that you like the charts, but 99% of these have nothing to do with this board
Thanks to whichever one of you collected all of these. A few of my creations are in the mix but I haven't made any for a while. I had ideas for more but I'm going to have to review the collection to see what's already been done.

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So I'm a big fan of the genre, trying to gather the best examples.

Indiana Jones trilogy as well as Young Indiana Jones chronicles – goes without saying these are the best.

The Mummy 1, 2 – probably the next best thing. Just all around well made wholesome entertainment.

Armor of God 2 – so Jackie Chan wanted to make his version of Indiana Jones and I have to say he succeeded.  It's great both as a Jackie film and a treasure seeking film. The first Armor of God is also alright but it's always been a bit too dry and boring for me, especially in comparison to the sequel.

Lara Croft: Tomb Raider – I was actually surprised how decent this was for what it is. Surprisingly well-made. Peak Jolie too. The sequel is kinda crap and what you'd actually expect from something like this, and the NuBoot should be avoided like plague.

The Adventures of Tintin – despite being obnoxious in-your-face 3D, it eventually grows on you and definitely scratches that globe-trotting treasure-hunting itch real good. I wish this was made earlier when Spilerberg was still a real director.

National treasure – it's kinda silly and derivative, being a Yidsney movie for younger audiences, but the first film just about passes as enjoyable and well enough made which was still a thing in 2004.
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One of the primary inspirations for Raiders of the Lost Ark was Otto Rahn, a folklorist author turned SS officer who believed he could find the Holy Grail

https://web.archive.org/web/20110516164742/http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/5407/raiders_of_the_lost_grail.html

Richard Stanley made a documentary on Otto Rahn entitled The Secret Glory

https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=r0YOeuxMOww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0YOeuxMOww
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>>2273
TL;DR on this?
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>>1918 (OP) 
>wholesome



Agreed, it's very wholesome and soulful, poggers!
>>2278
Literature should be mandatory for film buffs.
Otto Rhan was fascinated with 'Holy Grail' lore (it's just a cup a carpenter would use!  Probably ceramic and broken by now!).  He wrote about and spent all his money searching for it.  In the 1930's Himmler gave him a paid job to look for it - he accepted, but suicided years later after failing to find it and the SS were closing in on his secrets:  he was a poofter Jew... in the SS!

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