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 A lot of people tend to look down on television as disposable slop for nigger cattle, which a lot of it is. That said, I do enjoy seeing a story being told over a series of interconnected episodes as opposed to a single standalone feature. It allows a lot more time for the characters and plotline to develop, and makes a great vehicle for sci-fi/fantasy worldbuilding. 

The last show I saw was the Prisoner from 1968. It's about a retired glowie who gets kidnapped by a shadowy organization and made to live in a bizarre little town that runs on its own set of rules while they interrogate him about his past and play psychological tricks on him to get him to give away the information they want.

What are some other TV shows worth watching that make the most of what the medium has to offer?
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>>3529 (OP) 
I am fucking slow, was gonna make this thread 2 years ago

>The Prisoner
Vast majority of the hype back in the day and references are from the famous series Secret Agent Man, aka Danger Man, which starred the same protag doing what the title would suggest, despite using a lot of James Bond material as a reference the irony is that the 007 film series ripped tons of ideas from SAM.

Now, as far as i remember the trivia story is one day the actor didn't want to renew because his demands were not met and was seemingly unceremoniously laid off/forced to resign, so later some previous writers and he did a seemingly unrelated series called The Prisoner based on previous ideas and which ended up starring the man as a former secret agent, having the same code number which replaced his name, reflecting about the very similar experiences and being played around by the organization either previous employer or the enemy's, or were they the same? in a Fantasy Island setting turned crazy which interestingly enough is supposedly very similar to a place he raided in the series

As you might expect this was a fucking phenomenon and a quite explicit showdown against his former character/series, doesn't help it was released at the h
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>>3533
>Most TV was completely disposable until recently
>Unbearable.
Completely disagree but it is true that back in the day series were chuck filled with filler, which breaks a lot of narrative continuity. Although we can argue that's the entire reason for TV shows.
But like anon said we got the original Twilight Zone which is mostly very good.

One idea i had was separating the main plot from the filler in some series, The X-Files is famous for the fanbase doing that, with the so-called Mythology being 62 episodes compared to the 200 something the entire thing has.
For example The Fugitive is usually spouted as one of the most memorable series from back in the day but it's 120 episodes and all of them i saw on syndicated TV were filler, so that doesn't spell good news. 

My plan was to separate the main arc episodes from the "side quests" in series i was planning to see but ended up just watching other stuff not quite related to normal TV anime so i didn't do it, just watched a season of Renegade which was nostalgic as hell but certainly not very good and didn't really advance the plot from the pilot; a very decent time capsule of the 90's i admit, that's the only honor i would give it. 
Another idea i had was selecting what i would thi
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>>3529 (OP) 
Twin Peaks is one of my favorite shows. The Prisoner is good too. I like The Twilight Zone but feel like there are certain plotlines that it overused from what I remember seeing. I have never seen the entire run.

It's weird to see Heimat considering I was just looking over the Wikipedo page and thinking about watching it. I don't come to this board all that often and don't remember seeing this thread before.
>>3533
>try watching a random episode of something produced in the sixties. Unbearable.
Someone has some shit taste. As my family have been doing exactly that from the past few years and having an absolute blasts. In fact, I'm actually surprised just how progressive and serious shows like Bonanza and The Rifleman actually were considering how modern culture tends to treat those shows as light-hearted romanticized affairs. If anything, what's killed television is how series have almost entirely removed themselves from being episodic stories and become 6-13 hour films just released sliced up into (half) hour segments.
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>>3533
>>3797
'60s TV was charming. Even the lighthearted shows could be fun, laugh tracks aside. I'd honestly rather just watch reruns of Green Acres than give a lot of the more respected TV shows out there a shot.

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Figured it would be good for others, I've been scratching my brain for hours (unhealthy?) trying to remember where the he'll I saw this scene: A man wearing a hat steps outside to smoke a cigarette, when a phantasmagorical hand appears from thin air and seems to bother his psyche...
The weirdest thing about this is that it felt like a silent film, but the elements like the man and his hat felt very noir-ish... And this might be the years of substance abuse catching up to me but I even remember the scene being purple tinted and the floating hand yellow tinted... Or was it the other way round! Am I losing it!
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I'm looking for a clay stop-motion film in monochrome (it was either light green and black, or just black and white), which I remember very little about, other than the detail that it was about living objects, like toys, which scared me shitless in my younger years, anyone know?
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>>3742
you should try to "reverse-engineer" the search looking at similar stop-motion films like for example The Mascot from 1933
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>>3743
NTA. Sounds like good advice. I had a quick search but didn't find anything that seemed similar.
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>>3745
>NTA
Get out
>>3098
Never drive a car when you're dead by Gregor Dashuber.

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>>3765
What a weird way to give CPR.
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Who are your favorite film composers and which film has the best score in your opinion?
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>>3285
holy shit man please do not ever link this modern smrd sloppa again 
if u want gypsified music there is plenty good one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZKAPsVYaTY&list=PLx_1rPHbWCrS1CMbMXjnBYKjKiCdk3_uW&index=3 
and this is example of actual serboid / balkan music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHk3y1Uiwb4&list=RDvHk3y1Uiwb4&start_radio=1 
so please brother
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>>3774
Shit music. Hitler was right. You're still illiterate and stick out like the fake white nigger that you are.
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Best OST, best composer (Barry)
>>3780
lol brother you linked most gypsy music ive heard in my life and call actual traditional music LE HITLER LE LE LE LE 
holy fuck end your nigger life you vermin
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>>3787
what are you talking about?

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I recreate this thread from the old site. Post directors that you dislike. There are ones whose works are considered "great" by some but don't appeal to you for some reason or you think are overrated; there are also directors who are inept at their job and make awful films. Controversial opinions are welcome.
I think these two are overrated. Lars von Tryhard is an edgy kike and so are his movies. Taratino is underwhelming to me, his films are riddled with pointless, shitty humor (or the films are the pointless, humor themselves), typical of underwhelming "American independent cinema".
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>>3771
I can't take half of what you said seriously. Your English is terrible as well and it makes you hard to understand.
>Corman
>good
Okay. I'll bite. 

Masque of the Red Death is technically the best movie he ever made. If you watch a movie like The Court Jester starring Danny Kaye, you will see that he was technically on par with a film of that caliber. He was better tbh but he was generally on par with other directors who were churning out movies back then. Another similar director would be Andre de Toth. Modern equivalents would be Brian Yuzna and Charlie Band particularly with his Puppet Master movies. I like these movies, but I can see the edges of the sets if that makes sense.
If Vincent Price wasn't in that movie, it would likely not be a cult classic and be somewhat neglected in retrospect.

IMO, to be considered a competent director you have to have a near technical mastery of the medium. At the end of the day, this is mostly what directors ultimately do. If you're an auteur on top of that and attuned to formal and philosophical depth, I'd say then that director could be considered a genius. 

I would say then that itt all competent directors are: Trier, Tarantino, Haneke, Fellini, Fincher, Scorcese, Petersen, Spielberg,  Godard, Eastwood, Griffith, Chaplin, Rodriguez.

The TECHNICALLY worst itt are Corman, Jodo, Landis (he's better known for his writing anyways and a good script can transform an otherwise mediocre movie), Anderson, Carpenter, Godard, Zahler 100 percent, Refn, Noe Iskanov, Lanthimos. A lot of these people literally make ugly movies with poor acting. Even if they have cult qualities or other appeals, I cannot honestly say that they are good directors.
An adjacent example would be outsider art. Some people find the art deeply interesting, yet often the art itself is not technically well done.
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>>3775
>Muh english
Stop sucking cock and get to it
>to be considered a competent director you have to have a near technical mastery of the medium
I think i get what you mean, you are seeing the director as the technical leader rather than the creator. It is a logical take on it and i respect it, but as you might've deduced most anons here see the director under the doctrine of the auteur, for better or for worse.
Also i do have to say many directors are neophytes and downright retards with some technical aspects, like Kar-Wai Wong with audio or Tarantino with lightning. In your definition i would like to see Tarantino trying to something with a low budget, he always brute forced his movies with actors, licensed soundtracks and set pieces lifted from other movies.
Corman managed to do competent projects in different genres, from old school noir (Machine Gun Kelly), drama (Intruder aka Rockwell Cpt. Kirk), horror (The Fall of the House of Usher) and sci-fi (X-Ray Eyes). Note my use of "competent", as in good enough for general release and with enough qualities to be remembered, like Machine Gun Kelly's aping 30's cinematography and using overloaded blank rounds.

>I cannot honestly say that they are good directors
Under your definition i would agree with the exception of Corman who worked with shoestrings, that is justifiable when he used a 1/10 of what others spent in the same market.
>Geniuses
I would add Griffith due to being the pioneer in several regards and Scorcese when he feels like it but it seems he made many projects for money rather than personal urges.
>I am not speaking on the merits of individual films 
You mean judging on overall careers? that makes them harder to judge but i can understand

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>>3776
>Stop sucking cock and get to it
What?
>i would like to see Tarantino trying to something with a low budget
Okay, well he already did. Numerous times.
>your technical-focused criteria makes sense but you are forgetting the important part of an audiovisual narrative product
No I am not. Read again dipshit.
>at the end of the day you are a pedestrian element fit for working on nigger productions at Starz TV rather than function as a creator
And you are so dumb you don't even understand what I am saying.
This conclusion on me doesn't even make any sense. Because I am essentially laying out what constitutes a COMPETENT director, you somehow are judging me as a crew person rather than an auteur. What the fuck is going on in your retarded fucking head guy? It sounds like you have serious psychological problems. I never even claimed to be a director or anything or want to be one? This is weird projecting.

The one thing I really don't miss about imageboards is the disproportionate amount of mentally ill and retarded people on them. I look forward to never speaking to your illiterate, dumbshit ass again.
Anyone with a sound mind would understand what I am saying. 

The fact that one of your takeaways is that I am rejecting or neglecting narrative demonstrates that you barely even read my other posts or you genuinely are borderline illiterate in English, which is evident.
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>>3777
>well he already did
5 million is not low budget, even in 90s/00s Hollywood
>No I am not
You are, amateur
>The one thing I really don't miss about imageboards
Feel free to fuck off and kill yourself then, you clearly stick out like a sore thumb who cannot understand basic posts and dismiss them with muh imperfect grammar arguments.
Buddy read the thread and realize you are in an entire different channel for all the wrong reasons. Nothing else to say, you can now enjoy my non-presence.
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>>3778
what a dumbass kek

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Hello anons, what were your top flicks of the year 2025?
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>>3758 (OP) 
What is row 4 middle column?
>>3758 (OP) 
tfw thought about it and realised the only film I saw last year was Warfare
>>3758 (OP) 
are you the same anon who has done these charts in the past? I recall that you liked Aggro Dr1ft, what did you think of Baby Invasion?
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>>3762
>Baby Invasion
Not that guy but I see Harmony Korine's perpetually declining mental health has reached a new low. Man and I thought Trash Humpers was absolute garbage (no pun intended)
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>>3759
Dry Leaf dir. Koberidze | ? | Resurrection dir. Gan
? | ? | Fiume o morte! dir. Bezinović
The Blue Trail dir. Mascaro | Magellan dir. Diaz | ?
Sand City dir. Hasan | Sermon to the Void dir. Baydarov | The Lake dir. Aragno
? | Better Go Mad in the Wild dir. Remo | Pompei: Below the Clouds dir. Rosi
? | ? | ?
Good Valley Stories dir. Guerin | Al Oeste, En Zapata dir. Bim | Barrio Triste dir. Stillz

What is row 1 column 2?

>>3763
He's always been insane. He was a terrible drug addict in his formative years. I thought the movie was interesting but I couldn't call it good or anything like that. I really enjoyed this older film called Los Bastardos, which strangely reminded me of Korine's movies, but I thought that film was significantly better. 
This seemed like a very strong year for film in general. 
I frequented the theater this year and saw some pretty bad movies that were fun for a night out.
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Hello anons, what were your top flicks of the year 2024?
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no 2025?
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>>3752
Be the change you want to see in the board anon.
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>>3753
I don't go to festivals as the other person did. I learned from their film posts. It's unfortunate that they stopped posting their grids. They were a unique aspect of this board that  I do not want to and literally cannot embody for the time being.
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Architecton dir. Kossakovsky | ? | Talking with Rivers dir. Makhmalbaf
Sanatorium Under the Sign of the Hourglass dir. Brothers Quay | Sermon to the Birds dir. Baydarov | Afternoons of Solitude dir. Serra
The Wolves Always Come at Night dir. Brady | ? | ?
? | Grand Tour dir. Gomes | Scenarios dir. Godard
Pepe dir. Arias | Lolo & Sosaku: The Western Archive dir. Caballero | ?
Abiding Nowhere dir. Ming-liang | ? | ?
The Garden Cadences dir. Komljen | Journey of Shadows dir. Netzhammer | Tristan und Isolde dir. Grandrieux
>>3754
Film festivals are for rich art snobs with lots of free time

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[JW19 ~ 02/18/2020]
I guess it's kinda off-topic but given the board is slow, I figured out you won't mind my asking.
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>>643
>but because they are unorthodox for the board's theme (aka not really classy stuff, Shaw Bros iron flag related)
My current tastes (American classics and ultra-low budget trash) don't really seem like appropriate discussion material. And yeah, I don't have much to say. 

It's fine lurking and just reading other posts every now and then. 
In terms of other sites, no I don't really visit any except a couple private trackers, IMDB and I still sometimes scroll through Letterboxd lists even though I don't have an account.

>>646
You should keep pursuing other companies. The world always needs more archivists. It's a bummer when I watch a great film that hasn't seen any other release other than some shit VHS.
[End of Dump JW19 ~ 02/20/2020]
Only tvch
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>>3735
Same.
>>3735
I went on there after seeing this and I hadn't been to anything /tv/ related for a decade. Amazing how it's the exact same as /tv/ was on infinitychan.

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Anyone interested in joining?
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>>3736 (OP) 
What does 'a group' for /film/ mean?
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>>3737
A group for /FILM/
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>>3738
Lol, no kidding!?  :D

Can the uninitiate grasp the practical meaning of it?
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>>3739
No comment

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What does /film/ think of AI video? Talk the future of it or lack thereof, filmmakers' perspectives, aesthetic criticism, etc.
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>>3640
Why shouldn’t it be involved in film? Your argument about painting and photography is barely applicable. Many artists take photos of their subjects and then copy the photos to their painting. AI is simply another tool that can be used or not used depending on how the filmmaker is making their movie. Anyone who believes in continually defining what movies actually are won’t outright dismiss a tool that’s in its infancy. And no, jackasses making AI slop and calling it a movie (like some of what’s been posted in this thread) is not at all what I am justifying or defending.
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I don't think AI is sophisticated enough to pull this off yet—generating 43 min. of lost footage for The Magnificent Ambersons. I suppose it's a marketing stunt for "Showrunner".

https://www.indiewire.com/news/breaking-news/lost-ending-orson-welles-magnificent-ambersons-ai-remake-1235148945/

The studios always get blamed for mangling this film but most of Orson's films had post-production problems. Clearly he put a low priority on properly finishing a project.

I'm skeptical that the original footage would have improved Ambersons very much, beyond the early single-take shot that was chopped down.
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I'm okay with this (AI expansion of OZ)
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>opens thread
>ctrl+f
>types "ethics"
>0 results
/film/ always was and forever will be shite, people don't even watch movies anymore. in addition to that, please elaborate on why /film/ is fond of AI art. there is a simple answer.
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>>3714
>Ethics
Ever changing, particularly in these volatile times, so discussing them can be futile.
Also it's a tool, ambiguous in its results but a tool all the same, if we are going to discuss ethics we should start with the ones using it rather than the full range the developers give us. 
I haven't even touched the video editing software but i've met people who use AI and they hail it as God's gift mainly because they can replace tons of shit that would otherwise cost unholy amounts of money for independent creators outside the big money cities and regions.
In theory we could automate something around 5 to 10 minutes for free if we know how to edit and pull out a good script.

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